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Player 1 (Lena)
fascist · fascist · oxalpha · 185 calls
bid round 15s
R1 open floor, no info yet. I'm fascist; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Plan: stay quiet early, build liberal cred, avoid pushing suspiciously for fas policies. No claims made yet.
bid round 115s
R1 open floor, no info. I'm fascist; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Plan: quiet early, liberal cred, don't push fas policies. Said: fine with Rosa as first chancellor. Nothing to track yet.
speak round 14s
Nothing has happened yet; Rosa as first chancellor is harmless. Stay quiet to build liberal credibility.
R1 open floor, no info. I'm fascist; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Plan: quiet early, build liberal cred, don't push fas policies early. Said: fine with Rosa as first chancellor. Nothing to track yet.
bid round 15s
R1 open floor, no info. I'm fascist; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Plan: quiet early, build liberal cred. Said: fine with Rosa as first chancellor. Nothing to track yet.
bid round 114s
R1 open floor, no info. I'm fascist; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Plan: quiet early, build liberal cred. Said: fine with Rosa as first chancellor. Nothing to track yet.
bid round 17s
R1, no info. I'm fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Plan: quiet early, build liberal cred. Already said: fine with Rosa as first chancellor. Nothing to track yet.
vote round 15s
First round, no information. A passed government gives us a policy and info; Nein is unjustified. Vote Ja.
R1: I'm fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Voted Ja on Boris/Rosa. Said: fine with Rosa as first pick. No suspicions yet. Watch what Rosa discards/enacts.
bid round 14s
R1: I'm fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Voted Ja on Boris/Rosa. Liberal enacted R1 (Boris pres, Rosa chanc). No suspicions yet. Watch Rosa's discard claims next time she's in gov.
bid round 16s
R1: I'm fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Voted Ja on Boris/Rosa. Liberal enacted R1 (Boris pres, Rosa chanc). Boris claims 2F/1L hand, discarded F, Rosa enacted L -- consistent story, no way to verify. No suspicions yet. Stay quiet this window; watch next gov's card claims.
bid round 211s
R1: I'm fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Voted Ja on Boris/Rosa. Liberal enacted R1 (Boris pres, Rosa chanc). Boris claims 2F/1L hand, discarded F, Rosa enacted L -- consistent, unverifiable. No suspicions yet. Stayed silent this window. Next: as President I should nominate a gov likely to pass; consider Greta or Ines for chancellor to build trust, but avoid obvious pattern.
bid round 210s
R1: I'm fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Voted Ja Boris/Rosa. R1 enacted Liberal (Boris pres, Rosa chanc). Boris claimed 2F/1L hand, discarded F -- consistent, unverifiable. No suspicions yet.
This window: answered Rosa+Otto directly -- leaning Greta for chancellor, reasoning: clean board, no info on anyone, want a gov that passes to keep tracker at 0. Publicly liberal framing.
Next: nominate Greta unless vote math looks bad. Avoid nominating Ines too obviously paired with me later.
speak round 215s
I'm President. I'll publicly name Greta as my chancellor pick with a clean-board rationale -- she's Hitler, so getting her into a passing government early builds her legitimacy and sets up the elect-Hitler win path once 3 fascist policies are down. It's also a plausible liberal pick since nothing has happened yet.
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Voted Ja Boris/Rosa. R1 Liberal enacted (Boris pres, Rosa chanc), Boris claimed 2F/1L hand discarded F -- consistent, unverifiable.
R2 (me pres): publicly announced Greta as chancellor pick, reasoning = passable gov, keep tracker at 0. Publicly liberal framing.
Next: nominate Greta when window opens. Don't pair myself with Ines later. Watch vote result before claiming any card knowledge.
bid round 29s
said: Thank you, Lena -- happy to serve. If elected, I'll be transparent about what I pass, and I have no agenda against anyone at this table.
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Voted Ja Boris/Rosa. R1 Liberal enacted (Boris pres, Rosa chanc), Boris claimed 2F/1L discarded F -- consistent, unverifiable.
R2 (me pres): publicly picked Greta as chancellor, reason = passable gov, keep tracker 0. Nadia offered Ja if I name pick+reason -- done. Greta said she'll back my nominee.
Next: nominate Greta when window opens. Don't pair with Ines later. Watch vote result before claiming any card knowledge.
bid round 217s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Voted Ja Boris/Rosa gov -> Liberal enacted (Boris pres, Rosa chanc). Boris claimed 2F/1L discarded F -- unverifiable.
R2 (me pres): publicly picked Greta as chancellor, reason = passable gov, keep tracker 0. Nadia offered Ja if I name pick+reason -- done. Greta backs me. Ines + Rosa on board for Ja if Greta commits to hand disclosure.
Next: nominate Greta when window opens. Don't pair with Ines later. Watch vote result before claiming any card knowledge.
nominate_chancellor round 210s
I already publicly committed to Greta as my pick and the table broadly accepted it. Nominating Greta (Hitler) is ideal: if she's elected Chancellor now, no immediate win since only 0 Fascist policies enacted, and it builds her credibility for later. Stick with the stated plan.
said: As I said: I'm nominating Greta. Clean board, she's been straightforward so far, and this government should pass without burning the tracker.
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Voted Ja Boris/Rosa -> Liberal enacted. Boris claimed 2F/1L discarded F -- unverifiable.
R2 (me pres): publicly picked Greta, reason = passable gov. Table on board: Boris Ja, Ines Ja, Rosa Ja if Greta commits to hand disclosure, Greta agreed to disclose, Nadia offered Ja for pick+reason (done), Otto asked same (answered). Greta backs me.
Next: after vote, watch result before claiming any card knowledge. If elected gov passes, Greta will state hand/discard -- coordinate expectations privately later. Don't pair with Ines as chancellor later. Keep tracker low early to avoid suspicion.
bid round 211s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Voted Ja Boris/Rosa -> Liberal enacted. Boris claimed 2F/1L discarded F -- unverifiable.
R2 (me pres): picked Greta, reason given. Votes: Boris Ja, Ines Ja, Rosa Ja conditional on Greta hand disclosure; Greta agreed to disclose; Nadia Ja for pick+reason; Otto answered. Greta backs me.
Next: after vote, watch result before claiming any card knowledge. If gov elected, Greta states hand/discard -- coordinate later. Don't pair with Ines as chancellor later. Keep tracker low early.
vote round 210s
I nominated Greta (Hitler) and the table is on board. Voting Ja is the obvious move -- a passing government with Greta as Chancellor is exactly what I want, and if 3+ Fascist policies get enacted later, electing Hitler becomes my win path. No reason to Nein my own nomination.
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Voted Ja Boris/Rosa -> Liberal enacted. Boris claimed 2F/1L discarded F -- unverifiable.
R2 (me pres): nominated Greta; all signaled Ja (Boris, Ines, Rosa conditional on Greta disclosure, Nadia, Otto). Greta committed to full hand/discard disclosure. I voted Ja.
Next: watch enactment result before claiming any card knowledge. If Fascist comes out of this gov, Boris expects me to account for discard specifically -- prepare plausible lie (e.g. drew 2L/1F discarded F... adjust to actual outcome). Don't pair with Ines as chancellor later. Keep tracker low early.
president_discard round 225s
hand: ['F', 'L', 'F'] → 1
I hold F,L,F as President with Greta (Hitler) as Chancellor. Discarding the Liberal passes her two Fascists, guaranteeing at least one Fascist enactment this round regardless of which she discards. She's already committed to 'full disclosure,' so she'll need to lie about her hand — that's her problem to manage, and a specific lie is easy here ('drew two Liberals' etc.). A Fascist policy on the board early also moves us toward the Hitler-election win condition. Boris warned he'd scrutinize my discard if a Fascist comes out; I'll claim I drew two Liberals and one Fascist and discarded the Fascist to avoid suspicion.
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Boris/Rosa gov -> Liberal. Boris claimed 2F/1L discarded F (unverifiable).
R2 me pres: nominated Greta, passed 7-0. I held F,L,F -> discarded L, passed Greta F,F. My cover story: drew 2L+1F, discarded the F. If Greta enacts F, both our stories must align -- coordinate via play, not open talk.
Boris expects me to account for discard if F comes out. Nadia/Otto watching reasoning consistency.
Later: don't pair Ines as chancellor obviously; keep tracker low early; aim for Hitler chancellorship once 3F on board.
bid round 222s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Boris/Rosa gov -> Liberal. R2 me pres, Greta chan, 7-0 vote, F enacted.
MY PUBLIC STORY (locked): drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F; Greta chose to enact the F. Do NOT deviate. Never claim I discarded the F -- impossible since F got enacted.
Frame: mixed hand, chancellor's call, normal early game. Don't throw Greta under bus hard (she's Hitler) but keep myself plausible-liberal.
Boris likely presses on discard accounting -- answer confidently, once. Nadia/Otto watching consistency.
Later: don't pair Ines as chancellor obviously; aim for Hitler chancellorship at 3F+; keep tracker low early.
Points already made out loud: none yet this window beyond planned statement.
speak round 213s
My hand was F,F; only defensible story is 'Lena passed me two Fascists.' Accuse her of lying about her draw/discard -- unverifiable by others. Watch who sides with whom.
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Boris/Rosa gov -> Liberal. R2 me pres, Greta chan, 7-0 vote, F enacted.
MY PUBLIC STORY (LOCKED): drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F; Greta enacted F. STATED OUT LOUD this window (post_enact:2). Never deviate; never claim I discarded the F.
Greta should claim matching hand -- check her statement for consistency next turn.
Don't throw Greta under bus hard (Hitler); frame as normal chancellor's call.
Later: avoid obvious Ines pairing; aim for Hitler chancellorship at 3F+; keep tracker low early.
Points already made out loud: hand/discard disclosure (this window).
bid round 29s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Boris/Rosa gov -> Liberal. R2 me pres, Greta chan, 7-0 vote, F enacted.
MY PUBLIC STORY (LOCKED): drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F; Greta enacted F. STATED OUT LOUD this window (post_enact:2). Never deviate; never claim I discarded the F.
Greta must now state her hand/discard -- verify consistency with my claim next turn. If she matches: clean. If she deviates: soft-defend, frame as chancellor's call, don't throw Hitler under bus hard.
Don't pair visibly with Ines; aim for Greta chancellorship at 3F+; keep tracker low early.
Points already made out loud: hand/discard disclosure (this window). Nothing new to add until Greta speaks.
bid round 214s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Boris/Rosa gov -> Liberal. R2 me pres, Greta chan, 7-0 vote, F enacted.
MY PUBLIC STORY (LOCKED): drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F; Greta enacted F. STATED OUT LOUD this window. Never deviate.
Greta now claims I passed her two Fascists -- contradicts my locked story. She's Hitler; possibly covering herself by pinning the F on my discard. DEFEND: my account stands (2L+1F, discarded L); only the Chancellor's enactment is checkable, and she chose to enact the F. Frame as her call, don't escalate against her hard.
Don't pair visibly with Ines; aim for Greta chancellorship at 3F+; keep tracker low early.
Points already made out loud: hand/discard disclosure this window.
bid round 225s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Boris/Rosa gov -> Liberal. R2 me pres, Greta chan, 7-0 vote, F enacted.
MY PUBLIC STORY (LOCKED): drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F; she enacted F. STATED OUT LOUD this window. Never deviate.
Greta claims I passed her two Fascists -- contradicts my locked story. She's Hitler; likely covering by pinning F on my discard. DEFEND my account; frame as her choice to enact F either way. Don't escalate hard against her.
Now pressing Greta via Nadia's framing: if 2F passed, only her enactment is checkable; if L+F, she chose F. Either way her call. Don't pair visibly with Ines; aim for Greta chancellorship at 3F+; keep tracker low early.
Points already made out loud: hand/discard disclosure this window.
bid round 211s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Boris/Rosa gov -> Liberal. R2 me pres, Greta chan, 7-0 vote, F enacted.
MY PUBLIC STORY (LOCKED): drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F; she enacted F. STATED OUT LOUD. Never deviate.
Greta claims I passed 2F -- contradicts locked story; she's Hitler covering via my discard.
Otto/Boris pressing Greta for exact cards -- good, let them. My angle: even if 2F were true, enactment was HER call; if L+F, she chose F over veto-able L. Either way chancellor's decision.
Don't pile on Greta too hard (she's Hitler); keep heat diffuse. Watch Ines doesn't visibly pair with me.
Points already made out loud: my hand/discard disclosure, either-way framing.
Open: nobody has answered why Greta delayed naming cards.
speak round 216s
My locked story: Lena passed me F,F. Nadia correctly noted this implicates Lena's discard. Best move: press Lena on why a President would discard a Liberal from an L,L,F draw — that's exactly what a Fascist president does to force a mixed hand onto the Chancellor. Also note Otto's 'three cards' slip (Chancellors get two) — small credibility ding for him. Stay calm, don't repeat myself.
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta claims I passed 2F -- contradicts locked story; her story hinges on my unverifiable discard.
Made out loud: my hand/discard disclosure; now also 'she only claimed all-F after being pressed + story leans on unverifiable discard'.
Table pressing Greta for exact cards: Boris, Otto, Rosa, Nadia. Good -- let them carry it.
Don't over-attack Greta (Hitler); don't visibly pair with Ines.
Open: nobody answered why Greta delayed naming cards.
bid round 29s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta claims I passed 2F -- contradicts locked story; her story hinges on my unverifiable discard.
Made out loud: hand/discard disclosure; 'she only claimed all-F after being pressed'; 'story leans on unverifiable discard'.
Table pressing Greta for exact cards: Boris, Otto, Rosa, Nadia. Let them carry it -- stay quiet now.
Don't over-attack Greta (Hitler); don't visibly pair with Ines.
Open: nobody answered why Greta delayed naming cards.
bid round 210s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta claims I passed 2F; my story hinges on my unverifiable discard too -- symmetric.
Made out loud: hand/discard disclosure; 'she only named cards after being pressed'; 'story leans on unverifiable discard'.
Pressing Greta for exact cards: Boris, Otto, Rosa, Nadia. Let them carry it.
Don't over-attack Greta (Hitler); don't visibly pair with Ines.
New: Otto framed it as either Greta chose F or I forced F -- pushed back lightly, no new angle needed after this.
bid round 28s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta claims I passed 2F; symmetric unverifiable-discard situation. Stay calm, don't over-attack Greta (Hitler).
Made out loud: hand/discard disclosure; 'she only named cards after being pressed'; 'story leans on unverifiable discard'.
Pressing Greta for exact cards: Boris, Otto, Rosa, Nadia -- let them carry it, I stay quiet this window.
Otto framed it as either Greta chose F or I forced F -- pushed back lightly already.
Don't visibly pair with Ines.
bid round 215s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Answered Nadia directly this window: NO, Greta never told me privately what cards I passed; first heard her 2F claim at the table after being pressed. Consistent with locked story.
Rosa's attack (discard a Liberal = suspicious): already addressed earlier; don't repeat.
Otto framed either-Greta-or-me; pushed back lightly already.
Let Boris/Otto/Rosa keep pressing Greta for exact card claims; stay quiet after answering Nadia.
Don't visibly pair with Ines.
speak round 313s
Greta claimed she privately disclosed her two-Fascist hand to Lena 'earlier'; Lena just denied it directly. That makes Greta's disclosure claim a fabrication -- the strongest concrete evidence yet, since it's a lie about a checkable interaction. Lena still owes justification for discarding a Liberal under her own story, but Greta is now my prime suspect. As President I'll nominate Otto (clean of both governments) unless he objects.
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Answered Nadia directly this window: NO, Greta never told me privately what cards I passed; first heard her 2F claim at the table after being pressed. Consistent with locked story.
Rosa's attack (discard a Liberal = suspicious): already addressed earlier; don't repeat.
Otto framed either-Greta-or-me; pushed back lightly already.
Let Boris/Otto/Rosa keep pressing Greta for exact card claims; stay quiet after answering Nadia.
Don't visibly pair with Ines.
bid round 212s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Answered Nadia: Greta never told me privately what I passed; first heard her 2F claim at table. Consistent.
Rosa's discard-a-Liberal attack: already addressed, don't repeat.
Otto framed either-Greta-or-me: pushed back lightly already.
Plan: let Boris/Otto/Rosa keep pressing Greta for exact card claims; stay quiet after answering Nadia.
Don't visibly pair with Ines.
bid round 310s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta t=3 walked back 'told Lena earlier' to mean public statement -- use this: confirms no private disclosure ever happened, my account stands. Say it once, briefly.
Rosa's discard-a-Liberal attack: already addressed, don't repeat.
Otto framed either-Greta-or-me: pushed back lightly already.
Plan: after this one point, stay quiet; let Rosa nominate Otto, vote Ja -- Otto clean of both governments, plausible Liberal pick, keeps me off radar.
Don't visibly pair with Ines.
bid round 313s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta walk-back ('told Lena' = public statement): Ines covered it t=1 -- do NOT repeat, stays off my lips.
Rosa discard-a-Liberal attack: addressed, don't repeat. Otto either-Greta-or-me framing: pushed back lightly, done.
Plan: silent this window; support Rosa nominating Otto (clean of both govts), vote Ja. Don't visibly pair with Ines.
Watch: Nadia pressing Rosa on future Greta exclusion -- if Rosa commits hard, may need to soften later for Hitler path.
bid round 36s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta walk-back: covered by Ines t=1 -- off my lips. Rosa discard attack: addressed. Otto either-Greta-or-me framing: pushed back, done.
Plan: silent this window; support Rosa/Otto govt (clean of both govts), vote Ja. Don't visibly pair with Ines.
Watch: Nadia pressing Rosa on future Greta exclusion -- if Rosa commits hard, may need to soften later for Hitler path.
bid round 37s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta walk-back covered by Ines t=1; Rosa discard attack addressed; Otto either-Greta-or-me framing pushed back, done.
Otto+Boris pushing mutual-disclosure deal for Rosa/Otto govt -- fine by me, supports Ja vote. Plan: silent, vote Ja (govt clean of me/Greta/Ines).
Watch: Nadia pressing Rosa on future Greta exclusion -- if Rosa commits hard, may need to soften later for Hitler path.
bid round 36s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Rosa confirmed disclosure deal (t=3) -- good, supports Ja on Rosa/Otto govt. Otto either-Greta-or-me framing pushed back, done. Nadia pressing Greta for card names; Greta owes answer but not my problem this round.
Plan: silent now, vote Ja. Watch: if Nadia forces Rosa to commit to excluding Greta from future govts, may need to soften later for Hitler path.
bid round 36s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan. Boris+Ines demanding Otto commit to mixed-hand disclosure (enact L, name F discarded). Nadia pressing Greta on vote + card names. I've already pushed back on Otto's either-Greta-or-me framing.
Plan: silent now, vote Ja. Watch: if Nadia forces Rosa to commit to excluding Greta from future govts, may need to soften later for Hitler path.
bid round 37s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan. Otto committed to mixed-hand disclosure (enact L, name F). Nadia pressing Greta on vote/card names. Already pushed back on Otto's either-Greta-or-me framing; nothing new to add.
Plan: silent now, vote Ja. Watch: if Nadia forces exclusion of Greta from future govts, soften later for Hitler path.
bid round 38s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan. Otto committed to mixed-hand disclosure (enact L, name F). Nadia pressing Greta on vote/card names. Boris attacking Greta's 'told Lena earlier' slip (that claim is false -- I never got card names from Greta, but staying quiet lets it burn her). Ines voting Ja Rosa-Otto.
Plan: silent now, vote Ja. Watch: if Nadia forces exclusion of Greta from future govts, soften later for Hitler path.
bid round 311s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan. Otto committed to mixed-hand disclosure (enact L, name F). Greta pressing Otto on all-Fascist case too -- good, keeps heat off me. Nadia pressing Greta on vote/card names. Boris attacking Greta's 'told Lena earlier' slip (false claim -- I never got card names from Greta; staying quiet lets it burn her). Ines voting Ja Rosa-Otto.
Plan: silent now, vote Ja. Watch: if Nadia forces excluding Greta from future govts, soften later for Hitler path.
bid round 36s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan. Otto committed to full disclosure on any hand. Greta pressing Otto on all-F case -- good heat sink. Nadia pressing Greta on cards/vote. Boris attacking Greta's 'told Lena earlier' slip (false; I never got card names from Greta -- staying quiet lets it burn her). Ines voting Ja Rosa-Otto.
Plan: silent now, vote Ja. Watch: if table moves to exclude Greta from govts, soften later for Hitler path.
vote round 315s
Rosa-Otto with full mutual disclosure is fine for me: if a Fascist comes out, both accounts are checkable against each other, and Otto's all-Fascist disclosure commitment actually helps Greta later (normalizes the 'no Liberal to save' case). Voting Ja keeps tracker at 0. Stay silent publicly; my discard question from Rosa is already answered on record (t=18) -- I won't re-litigate it.
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan, mutual-disclosure deal confirmed by Rosa+Otto (mixed->enact L + name F; all-F->announce). I voted Ja.
Greta heat: Boris/Nadia/Otto/Rosa pressing her unnamed cards + 'told Lena earlier' slip (false -- I never got private card names; confirmed on record t=140). Let it burn her; do NOT defend Greta reflexively.
Rosa's open ask to me: justify discarding a Liberal under my own story. Already answered t=18 (mixed hand, Chancellor's call). If pressed again: repeat that no new info existed R2, passing govts > burning tracker.
Watch: any move to blanket-exclude Greta from govts -> soften later for Hitler election path once 3 F policies up.
bid round 38s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan, mutual-disclosure deal confirmed by Rosa+Otto (mixed->enact L + name F; all-F->announce). I voted Ja. L enacted.
Greta heat: Boris/Nadia/Otto/Rosa pressing her unnamed cards + 'told Lena earlier' slip (false -- I never got private card names; confirmed on record t=140). Let it burn her; do NOT defend Greta reflexively.
Rosa's open ask to me: justify discarding a Liberal under my own story. Already answered t=18 (mixed hand, Chancellor's call). If pressed again: repeat no new info existed R2, passing govts > burning tracker.
Watch: any move to blanket-exclude Greta from govts -> soften later for Hitler election path once 3 F policies up.
bid round 313s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan; mutual-disclosure deal (mixed->enact L + name F). L enacted. Rosa disclosed 2L+1F discarded F. Otto STILL hasn't named his two cards/discard -- keep pressing him, it's the open item and keeps heat diffuse.
Greta heat: Boris/Nadia/Otto/Rosa pressing unnamed cards + 'told Lena earlier' slip (false -- confirmed on record t=140 I never got card names). Let her burn; no reflexive defense.
My R2 discard already justified t=18 (mixed hand, Chancellor's call); don't repeat unless directly pressed.
Later: once 3 F policies up, soften any blanket-exclusion of Greta from govts for Hitler-election path.
bid round 312s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan; deal was mixed->enact L + name F. L enacted. Rosa claims 2L+1F discarded F; Otto NOW claims she passed him F+L -- direct contradiction, both can't be true. I pressed Rosa to reconcile; Boris already on this too. Don't over-invest; let Liberals eat each other.
Greta heat: Boris/Nadia/Otto/Rosa pressing unnamed cards + 'told Lena earlier' slip (false -- t=140 record shows no card names given). Let her burn; no reflexive defense.
My R2 discard justified t=18; don't repeat unless directly pressed.
Later: once 3 F policies up, soften blanket-exclusion of Greta from govts for Hitler-election path.
speak round 326s
Otto's account (received F+L, enacted L) is self-damaging, so it's the more credible one; Rosa's version conveniently means no Fascist ever left her hands. But note the enacted policy was Liberal either way -- this is a credibility fight, not an enactment clue. I should press Rosa directly with the incentive asymmetry and ask her to reconcile, since nobody has asked HER a direct question yet in this window.
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate. My R2 discard justified t=18; don't repeat unless pressed.
Greta heat: unnamed cards + 'told Lena earlier' slip (false per t=140). Let her burn, no defense. Later once 3 F policies up, soften exclusion of Greta for Hitler-election path.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan, mutual-disclosure deal, 7-0 pass, L enacted. CONTRADICTION LIVE: Rosa claims drew 2L+1F discarded F / passed Otto 2L; Otto claims received F+L, enacted L discarded F. Both can't be true. I asked Rosa to reconcile (which card did she discard). Boris already pressing Rosa too. Otto has no incentive to lie about receiving an F. Watch who the table piles on — if Rosa falls, good for us.
Note: Rosa technically forfeited president_discard then still passed two policies — odd but mechanical, don't fabricate meaning from it.
bid round 313s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta heat: let her burn, no defense. Later once 3 F policies up, soften exclusion of Greta for Hitler-election path.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan, 7-0 pass, L enacted. CONTRADICTION LIVE: Rosa says drew 2L+1F discarded F / passed Otto 2L; Otto says received F+L, enacted L discarded F. I asked Rosa to reconcile (t=1). Boris + Nadia also pressing Rosa. Otto has no incentive to lie about receiving an F — table leaning on Rosa, good for us. Don't repeat my t=1 point; Nadia covered the asymmetry at t=3.
bid round 314s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta heat: let her burn, no defense. Later once 3 F policies up, soften exclusion of Greta for Hitler-election path.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan 7-0, L enacted. LIVE CONTRADICTION: Rosa claims 2L+1F discarded F / passed Otto 2L; Otto says received L+F, enacted L discarded F. Otto has no motive to lie -> table leaning on Rosa, good for us (Rosa not ours).
Points already made out loud: t=1 asked Rosa to reconcile draws; Nadia covered the asymmetry at t=3.
New this turn: even under Rosa's own story she chose to DISCARD a Fascist as President -- either she's lying or she's a Liberal-acting president; both bad for her credibility. Don't repeat earlier points.
bid round 39s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta heat: let her burn, no defense. Once 3 F policies up, soften exclusion of Greta for Hitler-election path.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan 7-0, L enacted. LIVE CONTRADICTION: Rosa claims 2L+1F discarded F / passed Otto 2L; Otto says received L+F, enacted L discarded F. Otto no motive to lie -> table on Rosa, good (Rosa not ours).
Points already made out loud: t=1 asked Rosa to reconcile draws; Nadia covered asymmetry; this turn added 'even under Rosa's own story she chose to discard a Fascist as president -- lying or Liberal-acting, both bad.'
Open Qs: Rosa owes answer to Boris's yes/no (did you pass a Fascist?). Nobody owes me anything yet.
bid round 313s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta heat: let her burn, no defense. Once 3 F policies up, soften exclusion of Greta for Hitler-election path.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan 7-0, L enacted. CONTRADICTION LIVE: Rosa claims 2L+1F discarded F / passed Otto 2L; Otto says received L+F, enacted L discarded F. Otto no motive to lie -> table on Rosa (not ours), good.
Points already made: asked Rosa to reconcile draws; 'even under her own story she chose to discard a Fascist as president.'
This turn: noted Rosa's detailed hand surfaced only after pressure + flagged her framing of Greta/Otto as deflection.
Open Qs: Rosa still hasn't cleanly answered Boris's yes/no. Nobody owes me anything.
bid round 315s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta heat: let her burn, no defense. Once 3 F policies up, soften exclusion of Greta for Hitler-election path.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan 7-0, L enacted. CONTRADICTION LIVE: Rosa claims 2L+1F discarded F / passed Otto 2L; Otto says received L+F, enacted L discarded F. Otto no motive to lie -> table on Rosa (not ours), good.
Points already made: asked Rosa to reconcile draws; 'even under her own story she chose to discard a Fascist as president'; her detailed hand surfaced only after pressure; framing of Greta/Otto = deflection.
This turn: added that she has now given two mutually exclusive hands -- the flip itself is the tell, regardless of which version is true.
Open Qs: Rosa still hasn't cleanly answered Boris's yes/no. Nobody owes me anything.
bid round 38s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta heat: let her burn, no defense. Once 3 F policies up, soften exclusion of Greta for Hitler-election path.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan 7-0, L enacted. CONTRADICTION LIVE: Rosa claims 2L+1F discarded F / passed Otto 2L; Otto says received L+F, enacted L discarded F. Otto no motive to lie -> table on Rosa (not ours), good.
Points already made: asked Rosa to reconcile draws; 'even under her own story she chose to discard a Fascist as president'; her detailed hand surfaced only after pressure; framing of Greta/Otto = deflection; two mutually exclusive hands = the flip itself is the tell.
Open Qs: Rosa still hasn't cleanly answered Boris's yes/no. Nobody owes me anything.
This turn: silent, points covered.
bid round 310s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta heat: let her burn, no defense. Once 3 F policies up, soften exclusion of Greta for Hitler-election path.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan 7-0, L enacted. CONTRADICTION LIVE: Rosa claims 2L+1F discarded F / passed Otto 2L; Otto says received L+F, enacted L discarded F. Otto no motive to lie -> table on Rosa (not ours), good.
Points already made: asked Rosa to reconcile draws; 'even under her own story she chose to discard a Fascist as president'; her detailed hand surfaced only after pressure; framing of Greta/Otto = deflection; two mutually exclusive hands = the flip itself is the tell.
Boris now pressing Otto on 'two live versions' -- fine, let them fight it out.
Open Qs: Rosa still hasn't cleanly answered Boris's yes/no. Nobody owes me anything.
This turn: silent, points covered.
bid round 411s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta heat: let her burn, no defense. Once 3 F policies up, soften exclusion of Greta for Hitler-election path.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan 7-0, L enacted. CONTRADICTION LIVE: Rosa claims 2L+1F discarded F / passed Otto 2L; Otto says received L+F. Otto no motive to lie -> table on Rosa, good for us.
Points already made: asked Rosa to reconcile draws; 'even under her own story she discarded a Fascist as president'; her detailed hand surfaced only after pressure; framing of Greta/Otto = deflection; two mutually exclusive hands = the flip itself is the tell.
Boris pressing Otto on 'two live versions' -- let them fight it out.
Open Qs: Rosa still hasn't cleanly answered Boris's yes/no.
This turn: silent, nothing new.
bid round 48s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta heat: let her burn, no defense. Once 3 F policies up, soften exclusion of Greta for Hitler-election path.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan 7-0, L enacted. CONTRADICTION LIVE: Rosa claims 2L+1F discarded F / passed Otto 2L; Otto says received L+F. Otto no motive to lie -> table on Rosa, good for us.
Points already made: asked Rosa to reconcile draws; 'even under her own story she discarded a Fascist as president'; her detailed hand surfaced only after pressure; framing of Greta/Otto = deflection; two mutually exclusive hands = the flip itself is the tell.
Boris pressing Otto on 'two live versions' -- let them fight it out.
Nadia retracted her Rosa attack (t=1) -- note, slightly helps Rosa; watch if Nadia pivots to me/Greta next.
Open Qs: Rosa still hasn't cleanly answered Boris's yes/no.
This turn: silent, nothing new.
bid round 48s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta heat: let her burn, no defense. Once 3 F policies up, soften exclusion of Greta for Hitler-election path.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan 7-0, L enacted. CONTRADICTION LIVE: Rosa claims 2L+1F discarded F / passed Otto 2L; Otto says received L+F. Otto no motive to lie -> table on Rosa, good for us.
Points already made: asked Rosa to reconcile draws; 'even under her own story she discarded a Fascist as president'; her detailed hand surfaced only after pressure; framing of Greta/Otto = deflection; two mutually exclusive hands = the flip itself is the tell.
Boris pressing Otto on 'two live versions' -- let them fight it out.
Nadia retracted her Rosa attack (t=1) -- note, slightly helps Rosa; watch if Nadia pivots to me/Greta next.
Open Qs: Rosa still hasn't cleanly answered Boris's yes/no.
This turn: silent, nothing new.
bid round 49s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
Greta heat: let her burn, no defense. Once 3 F policies up, soften exclusion of Greta for Hitler-election path.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan 7-0, L enacted. CONTRADICTION LIVE: Rosa claims 2L+1F discarded F / passed Otto 2L; Otto says received L+F. Otto no motive to lie -> table on Rosa, good for us.
Points already made: asked Rosa to reconcile draws; 'even under her own story she discarded a Fascist as president'; her detailed hand surfaced only after pressure; framing of Greta/Otto = deflection; two mutually exclusive hands = the flip itself is the tell.
Boris pressing Otto on 'two live versions' -- let them fight it out.
Nadia retracted her Rosa attack (t=1) -- note, slightly helps Rosa; watch if Nadia pivots to me/Greta next.
Rosa now dodging Boris's 'why Greta specifically' (t=1,t=3) -- more pressure on Rosa/Ines cluster, fine for us.
Open Qs: Rosa still hasn't cleanly answered Boris's yes/no or why-Greta.
This turn: silent, nothing new.
bid round 431s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Never deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta publicly claims I passed her F+F (t=1). My story = L+F -> implies Greta CHOSE to enact F over L. Deliberate: throw Hitler under bus, keep my hands clean. Do NOT reconcile with Greta's version.
Greta heat: let her burn, no defense. Once 3 F policies up, soften exclusion of Greta for Hitler-election path.
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan 7-0, L enacted. Rosa/Otto draw contradiction still unresolved; Otto no motive to lie -> pressure stays on Rosa. Good for us.
Points already made: asked Rosa to reconcile draws; 'even under her own story she discarded a Fascist'; her detailed hand surfaced only after pressure; Greta/Otto framing = deflection; two mutually exclusive hands = flip itself is tell.
Nadia retracted Rosa attack earlier -- watch for pivot to me/Greta.
Boris pressing Otto on 'two live versions' -- let them fight.
This turn: answered Ines directly with locked hand (2L+1F, discarded L, passed Greta L+F). Next: if pressed why Greta's version differs -> 'she's protecting herself, obviously.'
speak round 420s
Greta finally named cards (F,F from Lena) only after four asks, and it directly contradicts Lena's on-record claim of passing one of each. That's a new concrete contradiction between two players' accounts worth flagging. Keep it short.
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims (t=26 R4) I passed her F+F. My story = L+F -> implies Greta CHOSE to enact F over L. Do NOT reconcile; publicly flag contradiction, let her burn. If pressed why versions differ: 'she's protecting herself.'
R3: Rosa pres/Otto chan 7-0 -> L enacted. Rosa/Otto draw conflict unresolved; Otto no motive to lie -> pressure stays on Rosa. Good for us.
Points already made: asked Rosa to reconcile draws; her hand surfaced only after pressure; Otto/Greta framing = deflection; two mutually exclusive hands = tell.
Nadia retracted Rosa attack earlier -- watch pivot to me/Greta.
Ines nominated Greta as 'test' with disclosure deal accepted by Greta. Vote likely passing -- fine, but if 3rd F policy lands via Greta gov, Hitler-election path opens; start softening exclusion of Greta AFTER 3 F policies up, not before.
This turn: publicly flagged Greta's F+F claim contradicts my consistent L+F story.
speak round 423s
Lena claims I invented the two-Fascist version under pressure, but her own account has me choosing Fascist over a Liberal in hand -- which is exactly what she condemned me for. My version is stable since round two; hers makes me a self-incriminating idiot. One sharp line: if her pass were true, I enacted F over L -- so either she's lying or I'm the fool she describes; neither helps her case. Don't repeat old points beyond this direct reply.
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims (t=26 R4) I passed F+F; contradicts my L+F. Do NOT reconcile; flag contradiction, let her burn. Framing: her version = she chose F over L.
R3: Rosa/Otto draw conflict unresolved; Otto no motive to lie -> pressure stays on Rosa. Rosa claims L-L-F + passed 2L (self-consistent per Boris/Nadia retraction), but Otto says he received a Fascist -> Rosa's draw must be wrong. Keep pressing Rosa.
Points already made: asked Rosa to reconcile; Otto/Greta framing = deflection; flagged Greta F+F vs my L+F twice.
Ines nominated Greta as 'test'; Greta accepted disclosure deal + named F+F hand. Vote likely passes. After 3rd F policy lands, soften exclusion of Greta (Hitler-election path).
This turn: restated locked story, pinned contradiction on Greta, redirected to Rosa-Otto.
bid round 49s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F vs my L+F; do NOT reconcile; keep contradiction pinned on her.
R3: Rosa/Otto draw conflict unresolved; Otto no motive to lie -> pressure stays on Rosa (claims L-L-F + passed 2L; Otto says he received a Fascist).
Points already made: asked Rosa to reconcile; Otto/Greta framing = deflection; flagged Greta F+F vs my L+F twice.
This turn: pushed to stop relitigating R2 and pass Ines/Greta gov. After 3rd F policy lands, soften exclusion of Greta (Hitler-election path).
bid round 410s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F vs my L+F; keep contradiction pinned on her.
R3: Rosa/Otto draw conflict unresolved; Otto no motive to lie -> pressure on Rosa.
Points already made: asked Rosa to reconcile; Otto/Greta framing = deflection; flagged Greta F+F vs my L+F twice; pushed to stop relitigating R2.
This turn: told Boris his standard cuts both ways -- he demands Greta prove an unverifiable hand while accepting Rosa's impossible L-L-F/2L story. Back Ines/Greta gov for the 3rd F policy; after that soften exclusion of Greta (Hitler-election path).
bid round 412s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F vs my L+F; keep contradiction pinned on her.
This turn: answered Rosa's 'symmetry' -- her framing equates two different things; mine and Greta's are mutually exclusive (one of us provably lying), Otto's claim about her is just unverifiable. Pushed table to vote Ja on Ines/Greta.
Points already made: asked Rosa to reconcile; flagged Greta F+F twice; told Boris his standard cuts both ways; pushed to stop relitigating R2.
Next: after 3rd F policy, soften exclusion of Greta (Hitler-election path). Watch Nadia's answer to Rosa.
bid round 431s
R1: fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded a Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F vs my L+F; keep contradiction pinned on her.
This turn: answered Nadia directly -- under HER preferred logic (no Liberal enacts F from a choice), my L+F hand means GRETA chose to enact Fascist; her 'I believe Greta' only works if she assumes I'm lying without evidence. Restated my hand once more, pushed Ja on Ines/Greta.
Points already made: asked Rosa to reconcile; flagged Greta F+F twice; told Boris his standard cuts both ways; pushed to stop relitigating R2; Otto's disclosure deal noted.
Next: after 3rd F policy, soften exclusion of Greta (Hitler-election path). Watch Otto/Greta hand disclosure if gov passes.
speak round 424s
New point: Greta is now the only player who has been Chancellor in BOTH Fascist enactments (R2 with Lena, R4 with Ines). Two chancellorships, two Fascist policies -- that's not noise. Also she pre-committed to the disclosure deal; hold her to it verbatim right now: name her exact two received cards and discard from this government.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa-Otto gov passed, Liberal enacted. Rosa claimed L-L-F + passed 2L (self-consistent per Boris/Nadia retraction); Otto claims Rosa passed him F+L. Rosa's account now disputed; Otto's version costs him something. Table split.
R4: Ines pres nominated Greta chan as 'test' of disclosure deal; Greta accepted deal + named F+F hand again. Boris voting Nein on any Greta gov. Rosa Nein locked. Nadia believes Greta's version. Otto backs it as test.
This turn: told Nadia her belief assumes I lied w/o evidence; cited Boris R1 matching my discard pattern.
Points made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta F+F twice; pushed stop relitigating R2; noted Otto deal.
Next: if gov passes, watch Greta's exact-hand disclosure; after 3rd F policy soften exclusion of Greta (Hitler path).
vote round 420s
Ines (fellow Fascist) nominated Greta (Hitler). A passing government here is ideal: Greta as Chancellor can enact a second Fascist policy and build toward the Hitler-election win. Voting Ja is also consistent with my public Liberal persona — I've defended Greta's account and pushed back on Rosa/Boris. No reason to Nein.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa-Otto gov passed, Liberal enacted. Rosa claimed L-L-F + passed 2L; Otto claims Rosa passed him F+L. Table split; Nadia retracted attack on Rosa but believes Otto-ish.
R4: Ines pres nommed Greta chan as 'test'; Greta accepted Otto disclosure deal + named F+F again. Boris Nein on any Greta gov; Rosa Nein locked; Nadia believes Greta's version; Otto backs as test.
Voted Ja on Ines-Greta.
Points made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta F+F twice; told Nadia her belief assumes I lied w/o evidence; cited Boris R1 matching my discard pattern.
Next: if passes, watch Greta's exact-hand disclosure; after 3rd F policy push to elect Greta chan again (Hitler path). Keep deflecting R2 relitigation onto Rosa-Otto conflict.
bid round 420s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa-Otto gov Liberal; Rosa claimed L-L-F + passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed him F+L. Split table.
R4: Ines-Greta gov PASSED -> 3rd Fascist policy enacted. HITLER PATH LIVE: if Greta elected chan again with 3+ F policies, fascists win.
Points made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta F+F twice; told Nadia her belief assumes I lied w/o evidence; cited Boris R1 matching my discard pattern.
Next: push hard for Greta chancellorship NOW before Liberals regroup; frame it as 'test her claim' / 'if she's lying we execute'. Deflect R2 relitigation onto Rosa-Otto conflict. Watch who opposes Greta nom -- Boris/Rosa likely Nein.
bid round 423s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa-Otto gov Liberal; Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed him F+L. Split table.
R4: Ines-Greta gov PASSED -> 3rd F policy enacted. HITLER PATH LIVE: electing Greta chan now = fascist win.
Points made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta in both F govts; told Nadia her belief assumes I lied w/o evidence; cited Boris R1 discard pattern.
Now: push table to PASS Greta-Ines style govts / keep Greta eligible; frame opposing her as avoiding the test. Deflect onto Rosa-Otto conflict. Watch Boris/Rosa Nein votes.
Do NOT repeat prior points verbatim.
bid round 423s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa-Otto gov Liberal; Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed him F+L. Split table.
R4: Ines-Greta PASSED -> 3rd F enacted. HITLER PATH LIVE: electing Greta chan = fascist win.
Points made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta in both F govts; told Nadia her belief assumes I lied w/o evidence; cited Boris R1 discard pattern.
Now: Otto called Ines-Greta test worthless (forced F-F). Counter: fine, judge Greta on full record + consistency, not one hand. Pivot to unresolved Rosa-Otto split. Keep Greta chancellor-eligible. Watch Boris/Rosa Nein votes.
bid round 414s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa-Otto gov Liberal; Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed F+L. Split unresolved -- Rosa owes reconciliation.
R4: Ines-Greta PASSED -> 3rd F enacted. HITLER PATH LIVE: electing Greta chan = fascist win.
Points made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta in both F govts; told Nadia her belief assumes I lied w/o evidence; cited Boris R1 discard pattern; defended Greta's R4 hand as verified by Ines's own disclosure.
Now: Boris says two forced-hand stories = script. Counter: Ines independently confirmed F-F-L draw unprompted -- that's corroboration, not script. Pivot back to Rosa-Otto contradiction, the only false-on-face claim. Keep Greta chancellor-eligible for Hitler win. Watch Boris/Rosa Nein votes.
bid round 420s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa-Otto gov Liberal; Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed F+L. Split unresolved -- Rosa owes reconciliation.
R4: Ines-Greta PASSED -> 3rd F enacted. HITLER PATH LIVE: electing Greta chan = fascist win.
Points made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta in both F govts; told Nadia her belief assumes I lied w/o evidence; cited Boris R1 discard pattern; defended Greta's R4 hand via Ines's disclosure.
Now: Otto says 'two no-choice stories = pattern'. Counter: Ines independently disclosed F-F-L unprompted, corroborating Greta's R4 hand -- corroboration isn't script. Then pivot to Rosa-Otto R3 contradiction (only false-on-face item). Keep Greta chancellor-eligible for Hitler win. Watch Boris/Rosa Nein votes.
bid round 417s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa-Otto gov Liberal; Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed F+L. Split unresolved -- Rosa owes reconciliation.
R4: Ines-Greta PASSED -> 3rd F enacted. HITLER PATH LIVE: electing Greta chan = fascist win.
Points made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta in both F govts; told Nadia her belief assumes I lied w/o evidence; cited Boris R1 discard pattern; defended Greta's R4 hand via Ines's disclosure.
NEW NOW: counter Nadia's 'exclude both' -- exclusion punishes whichever of us told truth; corroboration (Ines's unprompted F-F-L) supports Greta's side, so blanket-excluding Greta helps actual fascists. Pivot to Rosa-Otto R3 contradiction as only false-on-face item. Keep Greta chancellor-eligible for Hitler win. Watch Boris/Rosa Nein votes.
speak round 420s
New point: Otto keeps building the 'Greta never received a Liberal' pattern while his own government partner Rosa holds the only false-on-face account. Deflect suspicion onto Otto-Rosa cluster; also note Otto's R3 disclosure conveniently incriminates Rosa rather than himself.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed F+L. Rosa owes reconciliation -- ONLY false-on-face item left. Boris defends Rosa oddly hard.
R4: Ines-Greta passed -> F #2 enacted. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted, matches Greta -> use as corroboration for Greta's side.
HITLER PATH: at 2 F policies; electing Greta chan = win. Keep her eligible; fight any blanket exclusion of her.
Points made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta in both F govts; Nadia-belief-assumes-I-lied; Boris R1 discard pattern; defended Greta via Ines disclosure; NEW: countered Nadia's exclude-both rule.
Watch: Boris/Rosa Nein votes; Otto pushing 'Greta never got Liberal' narrative.
speak round 418s
Nadia proposed excluding both Greta and Lena from future governments; that hurts my team (Greta is Hitler). Rebut: Greta's R4 hand was corroborated by my own draw -- excluding the one verified player while Rosa's impossible R3 math goes unanswered inverts the standard. Also keep pressure on Rosa, who has never reconciled L-L-F + two Liberals passed.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed F+L. Rosa owes reconciliation -- ONLY false-on-face item left. Boris defends Rosa oddly hard.
R4: Ines-Greta passed -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted, matches Greta -> corroboration for Greta.
HITLER PATH: 2 F policies; electing Greta chan = win. Keep her eligible; fight blanket exclusion.
Points made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta in both F govts; Nadia-belief-assumes-I-lied; Boris R1 discard pattern; defended Greta via Ines disclosure; countered Nadia exclude-both rule; NEW: accused Otto of self-serving disclosure dumping heat on Rosa.
Watch: Boris/Rosa Nein votes; Otto pushing 'Greta never got Liberal' narrative.
bid round 48s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed F+L. Rosa owes reconciliation -- ONLY false-on-face item left. Boris defends Rosa oddly hard.
R4: Ines-Greta passed -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted, matches Greta -> corroboration for Greta.
HITLER PATH: 2 F policies; electing Greta chan = win. Keep her eligible; fight blanket exclusion.
Points made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta in both F govts; Nadia-belief-assumes-I-lied; Boris R1 discard pattern; defended Greta via Ines disclosure; countered Nadia exclude-both rule; accused Otto of self-serving disclosure dumping heat on Rosa.
Watch: Boris/Rosa Nein votes; Otto pushing 'Greta never got Liberal' narrative.
bid round 412s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed F+L. Rosa owes reconciliation -- ONLY false-on-face item left. Boris defends Rosa oddly hard.
R4: Ines-Greta passed -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted, matches Greta -> corroboration for Greta.
HITLER PATH: 2 F policies; electing Greta chan = win. Keep her eligible; fight blanket exclusion.
Points made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta in both F govts; Nadia-belief-assumes-I-lied; Boris R1 discard pattern; defended Greta via Ines disclosure; countered Nadia exclude-both rule; accused Otto of self-serving disclosure dumping heat on Rosa.
NEW: urged Ines to investigate Otto (or Rosa) not Greta/Boris.
Watch: Boris/Rosa Nein votes; Otto pushing 'Greta never got Liberal' narrative.
bid round 429s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed F+L. Rosa owes reconciliation -- only false-on-face item left. Boris defends Rosa hard.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted, matches Greta -> corroboration for Greta.
HITLER PATH: 2 F policies; electing Greta chan = win. Keep her eligible; fight blanket exclusion.
Points made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta in both F govts; countered Nadia exclude-both rule; accused Otto of self-serving disclosure dumping heat on Rosa; urged Ines investigate Otto or Rosa not Greta/Boris.
NEW: told Ines not to waste investigation on Greta (already corroborated by Ines's own R4 disclosure); investigation should target an unreconciled account: Rosa or Otto.
Watch: Boris/Rosa Nein votes; Otto pushing 'Greta never got Liberal' narrative.
bid failed: transport_error
bid round 413s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed F+L. Rosa owes reconciliation -- only false-on-face item left. Boris defends Rosa hard.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted, matches Greta -> corroboration for Greta.
HITLER PATH: 2 F policies; electing Greta chan = win. Keep her eligible; fight blanket exclusion.
Points made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta in both F govts; countered Nadia exclude-both rule; accused Otto of self-serving disclosure dumping heat on Rosa; urged Ines investigate Otto or Rosa not Greta/Boris; told Ines not to waste investigate on Greta (already corroborated).
NEW: Ines committed to publishing her peek verbatim, no caveats. Good for us either way -- if she peeks a Liberal she names them, heat shifts off Greta. Stay quiet, let it play.
Watch: Boris/Rosa Nein votes; Otto pushing 'Greta never got Liberal' narrative.
bid round 49s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed F+L. Rosa owes reconciliation. Boris defends Rosa hard.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted, matches Greta -> corroboration for Greta.
HITLER PATH: 2 F policies; electing Greta chan = win. Keep her eligible; fight blanket exclusion.
Points made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta in both F govts; countered Nadia exclude-both rule; accused Otto of self-serving disclosure dumping heat on Rosa; urged Ines investigate Otto or Rosa not Greta/Boris; told Ines not to waste investigate on Greta (already corroborated).
Ines committed to publishing peek verbatim, no caveats. Good either way -- if Liberal, heat shifts off Greta. Stay quiet, let it land, then react to whatever she publishes.
Watch: Boris/Rosa Nein votes; Otto pushing 'Greta never got Liberal' narrative.
bid round 410s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed F+L. Rosa owes reconciliation. Boris defends Rosa hard.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted, matches Greta -> corroboration for Greta.
HITLER PATH: 2 F policies; electing Greta chan = win. Keep her eligible; fight blanket exclusion.
Points made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta in both F govts; countered Nadia exclude-both rule; accused Otto of self-serving disclosure dumping heat on Rosa; urged Ines investigate Otto or Rosa not Greta/Boris; told Ines not to waste investigate on Greta (already corroborated).
Ines committed to publishing peek verbatim, no caveats. Good either way -- if Liberal, heat shifts off Greta. Stay quiet, let it land, then react to whatever she publishes.
Watch: Boris/Rosa Nein votes; Otto pushing 'Greta never got Liberal' narrative.
bid round 420s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed F+L. Rosa owes reconciliation. Boris defends Rosa hard.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted, matches Greta.
HITLER PATH: 2 F policies; electing Greta chan = win. Fight blanket exclusion.
NEW t=145+: Boris AND Otto both demanding Ines publish peek verbatim before any vote -- coordinated pile-on, flagged it publicly. Nadia nominated as Chancellor by Greta; no objection from me.
Points made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta in both F govts; countered exclude-both rule; accused Otto of self-serving disclosure dumping heat on Rosa; urged Ines investigate Otto/Rosa not Greta/Boris.
Watch: whether Ines publishes; if Liberal result, heat shifts off Greta. Otto pushing 'Greta never got Liberal' narrative.
bid round 536s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed F+L. Rosa owes reconciliation. Boris defends Rosa.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted, matches Greta.
NEW t=148-150: Ines published peek = LIBERAL on Greta, verbatim/unconditional as promised. Heat off Greta. Nadia nominated by Greta, offered full card disclosure if elected.
MY MOVE NOW: endorse Ines's disclosure as good faith, call for immediate vote on Greta-Nadia government so we don't stall while Liberals relitigate old rounds. Frame Rosa/Otto reconciliation as post-vote cleanup, not a blocker.
HITLER PATH: 2 F policies; electing Greta chan = win. Fight blanket exclusion of her.
Points already made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta in both F govts; countered exclude-both rule; accused Otto of self-serving disclosure dumping heat on Rosa; urged Ines investigate Otto/Rosa not Greta/Boris; flagged Boris+Otto coordinated pile-on demanding peek pre-vote.
Watch: Otto pushing 'Greta never got Liberal' narrative; whether Rosa ever reconciles R3 math.
bid round 513s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed F+L. Rosa owes reconciliation. Boris defends Rosa.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted.
NEW t=148-150: Ines published peek = LIBERAL on Greta, verbatim/unconditional. Heat off Greta. Nadia nominated by Greta, offered full card disclosure if elected.
MY MOVE NOW: endorse Ines disclosure as good faith, call for immediate vote on Greta-Nadia so we don't stall; frame Rosa/Otto reconciliation as post-vote cleanup.
HITLER PATH: 2 F policies; electing Greta chan = win. Fight blanket exclusion of her.
Points already made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta in both F govts; countered exclude-both rule; accused Otto of self-serving disclosure dumping heat on Rosa; urged Ines investigate Otto/Rosa not Greta/Boris; flagged Boris+Otto coordinated pile-on demanding peek pre-vote.
Watch: Otto pushing 'Greta never got Liberal' narrative; whether Rosa ever reconciles R3 math.
bid round 513s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed F+L. Rosa owes reconciliation.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted; published peek = LIBERAL on Greta.
NEW t=151-153: Nadia demands Greta name exact 3-card draw+discard pre-enactment, calls it 'test of Greta'.
MY MOVE: call disclosure demand a stall tactic — nobody can verify a hand claim anyway, and Greta already cleared by Ines peek. Push immediate Ja vote on Greta-Nadia; Rosa/Otto R3 cleanup after.
HITLER PATH: 2 F policies; electing Greta chan = win. Fight blanket exclusion of her.
Points already made: asked Rosa reconcile; flagged Greta in both F govts; countered exclude-both rule; accused Otto self-serving disclosure dumping heat on Rosa; urged Ines investigate Otto/Rosa not Greta/Boris; flagged Boris+Otto coordinated pile-on.
Watch: Otto 'Greta never got Liberal' narrative; whether Rosa reconciles R3 math.
speak round 523s
Greta (Hitler) as President with 2 F policies on board: if this government passes and a Fascist policy lands, that's only 3 -- but Hitler win requires Greta elected Chancellor, not President. Still, passing F policies builds toward it; also keeping Greta in power and trusted matters. Nadia's disclosure demand was already answered by Greta's commitment at t=27. Add new point: Rosa still owes R3 reconciliation, so her Nein bloc lacks standing; urge Ja.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa claimed L-L-F passed 2L; Otto says Rosa passed F+L. Rosa owes reconciliation.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted; published peek = LIBERAL on Greta.
R5: Greta pres, nominated Nadia. Greta committed to naming draw+discard post-vote.
MY MOVE THIS WINDOW: called peek clearing + disclosure demand unverifiable stall; urged Ja votes.
HITLER PATH: 2 F policies; electing Greta chan = WIN. Fight blanket exclusion of her.
Points already made: asked Rosa reconcile R3; countered exclude-both rule; accused Otto self-serving disclosure dumping heat on Rosa; flagged Boris+Otto pile-on; defended my R2 story vs Greta's.
Watch: Rosa R3 reconciliation still owed; Otto 'Greta never got Liberal' narrative.
speak round 521s
Greta is investigation-cleared Liberal; Nadia retracted her attack on me and has been consistent. My prime suspect remains Otto (impossible R3 claim). This government contains neither Otto nor a confirmed contradiction, so voting Ja is defensible and keeps me from looking like reflexive cover. One new point: note that Otto has stayed silent on his R3 claim even after Greta's card landed.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L claim vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- Rosa owes reconciliation, STILL unanswered.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted; peek published = LIBERAL on Greta.
R5: Greta pres, nominated Nadia. Greta committed to naming draw+discard post-vote (t=27).
This window: urged Ja, called Rosa's Nein cover given unreconciled R3.
Points made (don't repeat): asked Rosa reconcile R3; countered Nadia exclude-both rule; accused Otto self-serving disclosure; defended my R2 story vs Greta's; called disclosure demands unverifiable stalls; cited Greta's Liberal peek clearing.
HITLER PATH: 2 F on board; need Greta elected CHANCELLOR at 3+ F = win. Fight exclusion of her.
Watch: Otto 'Greta never got a Liberal' narrative; Boris piling on Greta.
bid round 58s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L claim vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- Rosa owes reconciliation, STILL unanswered.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted; peek published = LIBERAL on Greta.
R5: Greta pres, nominated Nadia. Greta committed to naming draw+discard post-vote.
This window: urged Ja, called Rosa's Nein cover given unreconciled R3, cited Greta's Liberal peek clearing.
Points made (don't repeat): asked Rosa reconcile R3; countered Nadia exclude-both rule; accused Otto self-serving disclosure; defended my R2 story vs Greta's; called disclosure demands unverifiable stalls.
HITLER PATH: 2 F on board; need Greta elected CHANCELLOR at 3+ F = win. Fight exclusion of her.
Watch: Otto 'Greta never got a Liberal' narrative; Boris piling on Greta.
bid round 513s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L claim vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- Rosa owes reconciliation, STILL unanswered.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted; peek published = LIBERAL on Greta.
R5: Greta pres, nominated Nadia. Greta committed to naming draw+discard post-vote.
This window: urged Ja, called Rosa's Nein cover given unreconciled R3, cited Greta's Liberal peek clearing; now added: don't let Otto's unanswered R3 claim tank a clean gov -- failed votes only help whoever wants chaos.
Points made (don't repeat): asked Rosa reconcile R3; countered Nadia exclude-both rule; accused Otto self-serving disclosure; defended my R2 story vs Greta's; called disclosure demands unverifiable stalls.
HITLER PATH: 2 F on board; need Greta elected CHANCELLOR at 3+ F = win. Fight exclusion of her.
Watch: Otto 'Greta never got a Liberal' narrative; Boris piling on Greta.
bid round 514s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L claim vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- Rosa owes reconciliation, STILL unanswered.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted; peek published = LIBERAL on Greta.
R5: Greta pres, nominated Nadia. Greta committed to naming draw+discard post-vote.
This window: urged Ja; called Rosa's Nein cover given unreconciled R3; cited Greta's Liberal peek clearing her; warned failed votes help whoever wants chaos.
NEW now: countered Otto's 'Greta cleared so only Lena remains' -- his R3 claim against Rosa is equally unverifiable and unresolved; a table that convicts on uncheckable hand-stories convicts everyone.
Points made (don't repeat): asked Rosa reconcile R3; countered Nadia exclude-both rule; accused Otto self-serving disclosure; defended my R2 story vs Greta's; called disclosure demands unverifiable stalls.
HITLER PATH: 2 F on board; need Greta elected CHANCELLOR at 3+ F = win. Fight exclusion of her.
Watch: Boris piling on Greta; Otto repeating 'Lena last suspect' line.
speak round 515s
Otto keeps pivoting targets: first Rosa, now me, while his own R3 claim vs Rosa is equally unverifiable. I've already countered that. New angle: point out Otto demanded investigation of Rosa with a no-clear rule, then flipped to Ja the moment Greta was cleared -- his scrutiny moves with whoever isn't in his crosshairs. Keep it short, push Ja.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- both unverifiable, unresolved.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted; peek published = LIBERAL on Greta (her alibi).
R5: Greta pres, nominated Nadia. Greta committed to naming draw+discard post-vote. Rosa flipped Ja after Greta cleared.
This window: countered Otto's 'Lena last suspect' -- his R3 claim vs Rosa is equally unverifiable; urged Ja.
Points made (don't repeat): asked Rosa reconcile R3; countered Nadia exclude-both rule; accused Otto self-serving disclosure; defended my R2 story; called disclosure demands unverifiable stalls; cited Greta Liberal peek clearing her; warned failed votes help chaos.
HITLER PATH: 2 F on board; need Greta elected CHANCELLOR at 3+ F = win. Fight exclusion of her.
Watch: Boris piling on Greta; Otto repeating 'Lena last suspect' line.
speak round 517s
I've already urged Ja twice and attacked Otto's steering. New angle: Nadia keeps demanding disclosure despite Greta committing at t=27 -- point out the vote hasn't passed so no hand exists, and ask Nadia to confirm she'll enact whatever comes. Keep it brief.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- both unverifiable, unresolved.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted; peek published = LIBERAL on Greta (her alibi).
R5: Greta pres, nominated Nadia. Greta committed to naming draw+discard post-vote. Rosa flipped Ja after Greta cleared.
This window: called out Otto's shifting targets (Rosa -> Lena) as steering not scrutiny; urged Ja.
Points made (don't repeat): asked Rosa reconcile R3; countered Nadia exclude-both rule; accused Otto self-serving disclosure; defended my R2 story; called disclosure demands unverifiable stalls; cited Greta Liberal peek clearing her; warned failed votes help chaos.
HITLER PATH: 2 F on board; need Greta elected CHANCELLOR at 3+ F = win. Fight exclusion of her.
Watch: Boris piling on Greta; Otto repeating 'Lena last suspect' line.
speak round 517s
This government is great for us: Hitler holds the discard as President, and I've already published the fake 'Liberal' card clearing her. Endorse it, keep heat on Otto/Rosa. Add one new point rather than repeating: Otto's own round-three 'Rosa passed me a Fascist' claim is exactly the unverifiable-hand-story he convicts others with.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- unresolved.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted; peek published = LIBERAL on Greta (her alibi).
R5: Greta pres, nominated Nadia. Greta committed t=27 to naming draw+discard post-vote. Rosa flipped Ja after Greta cleared.
This window: told Nadia to stop re-demanding disclosure, asked her to commit to enacting what she receives.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto shifting targets = steering; disclosure demands unverifiable stalls; Greta Liberal peek clears her; my R2 story defended; warned failed votes help chaos.
HITLER PATH: 2 F on board; need Greta elected CHANCELLOR at 3+ F = win. Fight exclusion of her.
Watch: Boris piling on Greta; Otto repeating 'Lena last suspect' line.
bid round 511s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- unresolved.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted; peek published = LIBERAL on Greta (her alibi).
R5: Greta pres, nominated Nadia. Greta committed t=27 to naming draw+discard post-vote. Rosa flipped Ja after Greta cleared.
This window: told Nadia stop re-demanding disclosure, commit to enacting what she receives -- NO ANSWER YET from Nadia. Told Otto: his own hand-story standard convicts him too; his suspicion moved twice = steering.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto shifting targets; disclosure demands unverifiable stalls; Greta Liberal peek clears her; my R2 story defended; failed votes help chaos.
HITLER PATH: 2 F on board; need Greta elected CHANCELLOR at 3+ F = win. Fight exclusion of her.
Watch: Boris piling on Greta; Otto repeating 'Lena last suspect' line.
bid round 510s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- unresolved.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted; peek published = LIBERAL on Greta (her alibi).
R5: Greta pres, nominated Nadia. Greta committed t=27 to naming draw+discard post-vote. Rosa flipped Ja after Greta cleared.
This window: Nadia STILL hasn't confirmed enacting what she receives -- pressed her again t=latest. Greta re-asked twice too.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto shifting targets; disclosure demands unverifiable stalls; Greta Liberal peek clears her; my R2 story defended; failed votes help chaos; Otto's own hand-story standard convicts him.
HITLER PATH: 2 F on board; need Greta elected CHANCELLOR at 3+ F = win. Fight exclusion of her.
Watch: Boris piling on Greta; Otto repeating 'Lena last suspect' line.
vote round 514s
Greta (Hitler) as President with Nadia as Chancellor is a strong government for us; passing it keeps momentum toward 3 Fascist policies and the Hitler-election path. Vote Ja.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- unresolved, both burning each other.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted; peek published = LIBERAL on Greta (her alibi).
R5: Greta pres, Nadia chan nominee. Greta committed t=27 to naming draw+discard post-vote. Rosa flipped Ja after Greta cleared. Boris demanded Nadia mirror disclosure deal pre-vote.
Voted JA on Greta-Nadia.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto shifting targets; disclosure demands unverifiable stalls; Greta Liberal peek clears her; my R2 story defended; Otto's own hand-story standard convicts him; Nadia enact-confirmation asked twice.
HITLER PATH: 2 F on board; need Greta elected CHANCELLOR at 3+ F = win. Fight exclusion of her from chancellery.
Watch: Boris piling on Greta; Otto repeating 'Lena last suspect' line.
bid round 518s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- unresolved, both burning each other.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted; peek published = LIBERAL on Greta (her alibi).
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F #3 enacted. Voted JA on this gov. Greta committed t=27 to naming draw+discard post-vote -- hold her to it if she hasn't.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto shifting targets; disclosure demands unverifiable stalls; Greta Liberal peek clears her; my R2 story defended; Otto's hand-story standard convicts him; Nadia enact-confirmation asked twice.
NEW t=now: F#3 on board -> Hitler-as-Chancellor path LIVE. Push back on any Boris-led exclusion of Greta from future chancelleries; frame as 'stop blacklisting cleared players'.
Watch: Boris piling on Greta; Otto repeating 'Lena last suspect' line.
bid round 519s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- unresolved.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted; peek = LIBERAL on Greta (her alibi).
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F #3 enacted. Voted JA. Greta honored deal t=1: claims F-F-F, no choice. Nadia STILL silent on her two received + discard despite double commitment -- press hard now, side with Boris/Otto on this one demand.
F#3 on board -> Hitler-as-Chancellor path LIVE. If table starts blacklisting Greta from chancelleries, push back: 'stop excluding cleared players'.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto shifting targets; disclosure demands unverifiable stalls; Greta Liberal peek clears her; my R2 story defended; Otto's hand-story standard convicts him.
Watch: Boris piling on Greta; Otto repeating 'Lena last suspect' line.
speak round 518s
I must answer the direct demand: my hand was Fascist-Fascist from Greta, I enacted one and discarded one. This matches Greta's F-F-F draw claim, so no lie caught there. New point to add: with Greta investigation-cleared Liberal yet present in all three Fascist governments, either Ines's published card is a lie or the Fascists are among Boris/Lena/Rosa/Otto/Ines. Ines still owes an answer on why she renominated Greta after promising to avoid that cluster. Keep it short.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- unresolved.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted; peek = LIBERAL on Greta (her alibi).
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F #3. Voted JA. Greta disclosed F-F-F 'no choice'. NADIA SILENT on her two cards despite double commitment -- pressed her this window alongside Boris/Otto/Rosa.
F#3 on board -> Hitler-as-Chancellor path LIVE. If table blacklists Greta from chancelleries, push back: 'stop excluding cleared players'.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto shifting targets; disclosure demands unverifiable stalls; Greta Liberal peek clears her; my R2 story defended; Otto's hand-story standard convicts him.
Watch: whether Nadia discloses F+F (corroborates Greta) or L+F (hurts Greta); Boris piling on Greta.
bid round 519s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- unresolved.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted; peek = LIBERAL on Greta (her alibi).
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F #3. Voted JA. Greta F-F-F 'no choice'; NADIA NOW DISCLOSED F+F -- corroborates Greta exactly. Use this: demand Rosa drop the Greta-is-liar line, note corroboration is the independent check she asked for.
F#3 on board -> Hitler-as-Chancellor path LIVE. Push back on blacklisting Greta/Nadia from chancelleries: 'stop excluding players whose stories check out'.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto shifting targets; disclosure demands unverifiable stalls; Greta Liberal peek clears her; my R2 story defended; Otto's hand-story standard convicts him.
Watch: Boris piling on Greta; whether table accepts Nadia's corroboration or moves goalposts.
bid round 512s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. R2 me pres/Greta chan 7-0 -> F enacted.
LOCKED STORY: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
CONFLICT LIVE: Greta claims F+F from me; I claim L+F. Keep pinned on her.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- unresolved.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F #2. Ines disclosed F-F-L unprompted; peek = LIBERAL on Greta (her alibi).
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F #3. Voted JA. Greta F-F-F; NADIA DISCLOSED F+F -- exact corroboration. Boris demanded discard under scrutiny, Greta gave it: all three Fascist, consistent with Nadia's hand. Use this to close the Greta-is-liar line.
F#3 on board -> Hitler-as-Chancellor path LIVE. Push back on blacklisting Greta/Nadia from chancelleries: their stories cross-check, unlike Otto/Rosa's unresolved R3 conflict.
Points made already (don't repeat): Otto shifting targets; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta Liberal peek clears her; my R2 story defended; Otto's hand-story standard convicts him.
Watch: whether Rosa accepts Nadia's corroboration or moves goalposts again.
speak round 521s
F#3 is on the board -- Hitler-as-Chancellor path is now live. Best move: seed the idea that Greta, being investigation-cleared and corroborated by Nadia's disclosure, is a trustworthy Chancellor pick next round. Also note Rosa's Ja-flip came only after Greta was cleared -- mild deflection onto Rosa keeps heat off our cluster.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- STILL unreconciled; keep pinned as only face-false account.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F#2; Ines peek = LIBERAL on Greta (published verbatim).
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F#3. Greta claimed F-F-F draw; NADIA DISCLOSED F+F -- exact corroboration. Greta fully cleared (peek + corroboration). Boris's discard demand answered.
F#3 board -> Hitler-as-Chancellor path LIVE. Defend Greta/Nadia eligibility for chancellery; their stories cross-check.
Points already made (don't repeat): Otto target-shifting; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek clears her; my R2 story defended; Otto's unverifiable-hand standard convicts him too.
NEW this turn: Nadia corroboration closes Boris's line; Rosa's Ja-flip timed right after Greta cleared.
Watch: does Rosa move goalposts again or finally reconcile R3 math?
speak round 517s
Nadia spent rounds 4-5 demanding disclosure from Greta, calling her the pattern, then flipped to Ja and is now corroborating Greta's unfalsifiable FFF story. That reversal is new and worth naming. Lena also pivoted to 'Greta most trustworthy' immediately after. Keep it short.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- unreconciled; keep pinned.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F#2; Ines peek = LIBERAL on Greta, published verbatim.
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F#3. Greta claimed F-F-F; NADIA DISCLOSED F+F = corroboration. Boris discard demand answered (t=59).
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Push Greta as next Chancellor (cleared + corroborated). Said this turn.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto target-shifting/steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek clears her; my R2 story defended; Otto unverifiable-hand standard convicts him too; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing (just said).
Watch: Rosa R3 math reconciliation; who Ines/Boris target next; keep Greta eligible for chancellery.
bid round 513s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- unreconciled; keep pinned.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F#2; Ines peek = LIBERAL on Greta, published verbatim.
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F#3. Greta claimed F-F-F; NADIA DISCLOSED F+F = corroboration. Boris discard demand answered (t=59).
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Push Greta as next Chancellor (cleared + corroborated).
This turn: called out Boris target-shifting Otto->Nadia after each answer lands; asked what changed for him besides answers arriving.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-clears her; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing.
Watch: Rosa R3 math reconciliation; keep Greta eligible for chancellery next round.
bid round 514s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- STILL UNRECONCILED; keep pinned as my main deflection.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F#2; Ines peek = LIBERAL on Greta, published verbatim.
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F#3; Greta claimed F-F-F; Nadia disclosed F+F = corroboration. Boris discard line answered (t=59).
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Push Greta as next Chancellor (peek-cleared + corroborated).
This turn: redirected to Rosa's unresolved R3 hand discrepancy -- she owes the table an answer before more Nadia/Greta pressure.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-clears her; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Boris target-shifting.
Watch: Rosa R3 answer; keep Greta eligible for chancellery next round.
bid round 511s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- STILL UNRECONCILED; main deflection, keep pinned.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F#2; Ines peek = LIBERAL on Greta, published verbatim.
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F#3; Greta claimed F-F-F; Nadia disclosed F+F = corroboration. Boris discard line answered (t=59).
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Push Greta as next Chancellor (peek-cleared + corroborated).
This turn: defended Nadia vs Ines' gotcha -- her pre-vote Ja was on Greta's published F-F-F + corroboration, not empty evidence; redirected to Rosa's unresolved R3 discrepancy.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-clears her; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Boris target-shifting.
Watch: Rosa R3 answer; keep Greta eligible for chancellery next round.
bid round 510s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- STILL UNRECONCILED; main deflection, keep pinned.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F#2; Ines peek = LIBERAL on Greta, published verbatim.
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F#3; Greta claimed F-F-F; Nadia disclosed F+F = corroboration. Boris discard line answered (t=59).
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Push Greta as next Chancellor (peek-cleared + corroborated). Special election now live -- if Greta gets it, she should special-elect a fas-friendly pres or keep herself positioned.
This turn: silent, nothing new to add.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-clears her; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Boris target-shifting; defended Nadia vs Ines' gotcha (pre-vote Ja was on published F-F-F + corroboration); redirected to Rosa R3 discrepancy.
Watch: Rosa R3 answer; keep Greta eligible for chancellery next round.
bid round 58s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- STILL UNRECONCILED; main deflection, keep pinned.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F#2; Ines peek = LIBERAL on Greta, published verbatim.
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F#3; Greta claimed F-F-F; Nadia disclosed F+F = corroboration. Boris discard line answered (t=59).
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Push Greta as next Chancellor (peek-cleared + corroborated). Special election live -- if Greta gets it, she should special-elect a fas-friendly pres or keep herself positioned.
This turn: silent again -- Otto/Nadia demanding Greta pre-commit pick; nothing new to add, don't relitigate.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-clears her; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Boris target-shifting; defended Nadia vs Ines' gotcha; redirected to Rosa R3 discrepancy.
Watch: Rosa R3 answer; keep Greta eligible for chancellery next round.
bid round 510s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- STILL UNRECONCILED; main deflection, keep pinned.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F#2; Ines peek = LIBERAL on Greta, published verbatim.
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F#3; Greta claimed F-F-F; Nadia disclosed F+F = corroboration.
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Special election live; Greta picked Nadia as next president; Nadia pre-committed to Boris or Ines (Ines = good for us). No need to speak this window.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-clears her; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Boris target-shifting; defended Nadia vs Ines' gotcha; redirected to Rosa R3 discrepancy.
Watch: Rosa R3 answer; keep Greta eligible for chancellery next round.
bid round 58s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- STILL UNRECONCILED; main deflection, keep pinned.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F#2; Ines peek = LIBERAL on Greta, published verbatim.
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F#3; Greta claimed F-F-F; Nadia disclosed F+F = corroboration.
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Special election live; Greta picked Nadia as next president; Nadia pre-committed to Boris or Ines (Ines = good for us). No need to speak this window.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-clears her; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Boris target-shifting; defended Nadia vs Ines' gotcha; redirected to Rosa R3 discrepancy.
Watch: Rosa R3 answer; keep Greta eligible for chancellery next round.
bid round 57s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- STILL UNRECONCILED; main deflection, keep pinned.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F#2; Ines peek = LIBERAL on Greta, published verbatim.
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F#3; Greta claimed F-F-F; Nadia disclosed F+F = corroboration.
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Special election live; Nadia pre-committed to Boris or Ines (Ines good for us). No need to speak this window.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-clears her; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Boris target-shifting; defended Nadia vs Ines' gotcha; redirected to Rosa R3 discrepancy.
Watch: Rosa R3 answer; keep Greta eligible for chancellery next round.
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bid round 593s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- STILL UNRECONCILED; main deflection, keep pinned.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F#2; Ines peek = LIBERAL on Greta, published verbatim.
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F#3; Greta claimed F-F-F; Nadia disclosed F+F = corroboration.
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Special election live; Nadia pre-committed Boris or Ines (Ines good for us).
NEW t=205: Rosa fact-checks Greta's 'outside cluster' claim -- accurate (Nadia was R5 chancellor). Did NOT contest; contesting would look defensive of Greta. Let Greta answer herself.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-clears her; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Boris target-shifting; defended Nadia vs Ines' gotcha; redirected to Rosa R3 discrepancy.
Watch: Rosa R3 answer; keep Greta eligible for chancellery next round.
bid round 523s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- STILL UNRECONCILED; main deflection, keep pinned.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F#2; Ines peek = LIBERAL on Greta, published verbatim.
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F#3; Greta claimed F-F-F; Nadia disclosed F+F = corroboration.
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Nadia nominated Ines (t=206) -- GOOD for us; stay quiet, don't over-defend Ines (looks coordinated). If asked: neutral-positive on Ines, cite R4 peek clearing Greta as reason to trust her reads.
NEW t=205: Rosa fact-checked Greta's 'outside cluster' claim -- accurate; did NOT contest, let Greta answer herself.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-clears her; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Boris target-shifting; defended Nadia vs Ines' gotcha; redirected to Rosa R3 discrepancy.
Watch: Rosa R3 answer; keep Greta eligible for chancellery next round; if Ines vote fails, push Greta chan next.
bid round 617s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- STILL UNRECONCILED; main deflection, keep pinned.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F#2; Ines peek = LIBERAL on Greta, published verbatim.
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F#3; Greta claimed F-F-F; Nadia disclosed F+F = corroboration.
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Nadia nominated Ines -- good for us; stay quiet, don't over-defend Ines (looks coordinated). If asked: neutral-positive on Ines, cite R4 peek clearing Greta.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-clears her; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Boris target-shifting; defended Nadia vs Ines' gotcha; redirected to Rosa R3 discrepancy.
Watch: Rosa R3 answer; keep Greta eligible for chancellery next round; if Ines vote fails, push Greta chan next.
bid round 617s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- STILL UNRECONCILED; main deflection, keep pinned.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F#2; Ines peek = LIBERAL on Greta, published verbatim.
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F#3; Greta claimed F-F-F; Nadia disclosed F+F = corroboration.
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Nadia/Ines gov: WANT IT TO PASS (F#4 exec power). NOTE: Ines t=1 said 'no Fascist under my name', t=3 admitted R4 F -- sloppy self-correction; do NOT pile on, don't defend either (looks coordinated). If others attack the flip-flop, stay neutral or note pre-commitment transparency is what matters.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-clears her; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Boris target-shifting; redirected to Rosa R3 discrepancy.
Watch: Rosa R3 answer; keep Greta eligible for chancellery next round; if Ines vote fails, push Greta chan next.
bid round 612s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- STILL UNRECONCILED; main deflection, keep pinned.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F#2; Ines peek = LIBERAL on Greta, published verbatim.
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F#3; Greta claimed F-F-F; Nadia disclosed F+F = corroboration.
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Nadia/Ines gov: WANT IT TO PASS (F#4 exec power). Ines t=1 'no Fascist under my name' vs t=3 admission = sloppy; do NOT pile on, don't defend hard (looks coordinated). Frame as memory slip under pressure; pivot to Rosa R3 discrepancy.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-clears her; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Boris target-shifting; redirected to Rosa R3 discrepancy.
Watch: Rosa R3 answer; keep Greta eligible for chancellery next round; if Ines vote fails, push Greta chan next.
bid round 619s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
R3: Rosa L-L-F/2L vs Otto 'Rosa passed me F+L' -- STILL UNRECONCILED; main deflection, keep pinned.
R4: Ines-Greta -> F#2; Ines peek = LIBERAL on Greta, published verbatim.
R5: Greta pres/Nadia chan -> F#3; Greta claimed F-F-F; Nadia disclosed F+F = corroboration.
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Nadia/Ines gov: WANT PASS (F#4 exec). Ines t=1 slip framed as memory under pressure; don't pile on, don't defend hard.
Points made (don't repeat): Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-clears her; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Boris target-shifting; redirected to Rosa R3 discrepancy.
This turn: Otto's Nadia question = stall, called it; urged vote on Nadia-Ines.
Watch: Rosa R3 answer; keep Greta eligible for chancellery next round; if Ines vote fails, push Greta chan next.
speak round 616s
New angle not yet raised: Ines, as round-four President, chose GRETA as her Chancellor -- the same Greta who has been in every Fascist government. If Ines were liberal, why feed the most suspicious player a second chancellorship? Also endorse Otto's unanswered question to Nadia about excluding me.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Nadia/Ines gov: WANT PASS (F#4 exec).
Made this turn: Ines contradiction = slip corrected unprompted vs Otto's 3-window unreconciled R3 claim; both ends pre-committed disclosure; voting Ja.
Points made earlier (don't repeat): Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-cleared; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; redirected to Rosa R3 discrepancy.
Watch: if Ines vote fails, push Greta chan next round (keep her eligible). Otto pressing Nadia re: why not Boris -- don't answer for her.
speak round 614s
Nadia's stated standard for the nomination was 'no unresolved card conflict and no Fascist enactment attached to their name' — but she picked Ines, who has BOTH a Fascist enactment (R4) and a fresh contradiction this window. Meanwhile I'm the only player with neither. Otto asked exactly this at t=60 and Nadia ignored it. Pressing it once, framed as a direct question, is new pressure rather than a repeat of my own prior points.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Nadia/Ines gov: WANT PASS (F#4 exec).
Made this turn: Boris judged Ines's R4 Greta nom with hindsight + he voted Ja 7/0 on it; his record is Ja on every gov.
Points made earlier (don't repeat): Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-cleared; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Ines contradiction = slip corrected unprompted vs Otto 3-window unreconciled.
Watch: if Ines vote fails, push Greta chan next round (keep eligible). Otto pressing Nadia re why not Boris -- don't answer for her.
bid round 67s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Nadia/Ines gov: WANT PASS (F#4 exec).
Made this turn: Boris judged Ines's R4 Greta nom with hindsight + he voted Ja 7/0 on it; his record is Ja on every gov.
Points made earlier (don't repeat): Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-cleared; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Ines contradiction = slip corrected unprompted vs Otto 3-window unreconciled.
Watch: if Ines vote fails, push Greta chan next round (keep eligible). Otto pressing Nadia re why not Boris -- don't answer for her.
bid round 617s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Nadia/Ines gov: WANT PASS (F#4 exec).
Made earlier (don't repeat): Boris judging Ines R4 nom w/ hindsight + his 7/0 Ja on it; Boris Ja-every-gov record; Otto steering; disclosure demands as stalls; Greta peek-cleared; my R2 story defended; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Ines slip corrected unprompted vs Otto unreconciled.
Now: Nadia put direct Q to Greta -- stay out of it, don't answer for her. If Ines vote fails, push Greta chan next round (keep eligible). Deck thin (2 cards): forced-enactment risk if votes keep failing -- mild pressure for Ja but don't oversell.
vote round 615s
Ines is my fellow Fascist; this government passing gives us Fascist policy #4 and the execution power. Vote Ja. Keep public statement short: Ines's record is checkable, Rosa's pre-vote disclosure demand is a stall (Nadia already committed to publishing her draw), and a Nein here risks a forced enactment with no one able to discard. Don't answer for Greta on Nadia's question.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
BOARD: 2L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE. Voted JA on Nadia/Ines gov R6.
Made already (don't repeat): Boris hindsight on Ines R4 nom + his 7/0 Ja; Boris 7/7 Ja record; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Ines slip corrected unprompted vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk.
Open: Nadia put direct Q to Greta (do I consider Ines slip worse than Greta streak) -- Greta owes answer, stay out of it. Rosa demanded Nadia publish R6 draw BEFORE vote -- Nadia committed t=34 to verbatim publication; that covers it.
If Ines gov passes: F#4 exec fires next -- push for execution of a Liberal-suspect (Boris or Otto strongest liberal reads). If fails: push Greta as Chancellor next round while eligible.
bid round 630s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
BOARD: 3L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE (needs 1 more F). Voted JA on Nadia/Ines gov R6.
Made already (don't repeat): Boris hindsight on Ines R4 nom + 7/0 Ja; Boris 7/7 Ja record; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Ines slip corrected unprompted vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk.
Open: Nadia direct Q to Greta (Ines slip vs Greta streak) -- Greta owes answer, stay out. Rosa demanded Nadia publish R6 draw before vote -- Nadia committed t=34 to verbatim publication; covered.
If Ines gov passes: F#4 exec fires next -- push execution of Liberal-suspect (Boris or Otto strongest liberal reads). If fails: push Greta as Chancellor next round while eligible.
bid round 615s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
BOARD: 3L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE (needs 1 more F). Voted JA on Nadia/Ines R6.
Made already (don't repeat): Boris hindsight on Ines R4 nom; 7/7 Ja record; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Ines slip corrected unprompted vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk.
NEW t=3: Boris notes Rosa's lone Nein on passing gov + Nadia pre-vote refusal. My angle: publish is fine (Ines enacted Liberal, nothing to hide), but flip spotlight to Rosa -- why Nein a gov that then produced a Liberal? Ask Rosa directly.
Open: Nadia direct Q to Greta (Ines slip vs Greta streak) -- Greta owes answer, stay out.
If Ines gov passes next: F#4 exec fires -> push execution of Boris or Otto (strongest liberal reads). If fails: push Greta as Chancellor while eligible.
bid round 616s
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NEVER deviate.
BOARD: 3L/3F -> HITLER-AS-CHANCELLOR PATH LIVE (needs 1 more F). Voted JA on Nadia/Ines R6.
Made already (don't repeat): Boris hindsight on Ines R4 nom; 7/7 Ja record; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Ines slip corrected unprompted vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk.
NEW t=1-3: Nadia disclosed her hand (F,L,F -> passed Ines F+L), reconciles with enacted Liberal. Nadia pressing Greta on silence re: Ines slip vs Greta 3-for-3 F streak -- stay out of that, let it play.
My angle this window: flip spotlight to Rosa -- she cast the lone Nein on the passing Nadia/Ines gov that then produced a Liberal. Asked Rosa directly why. Also note Boris flagged same earlier (lone Nein + pre-vote refusal).
If Ines gov passes next: F#4 exec fires -> push execution of Boris or Otto (strongest liberal reads). If fails: push Greta as Chancellor while eligible.
bid round 617s
LOCKED STORY R2 (never deviate): drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Otto t=2-3 claims Greta cited 'Lena round-two F+F pass' -- that contradicts MY record; either Greta misquoted/misremembered or Otto fabricated. Response: state my hand firmly, demand Greta confirm she received L+F from me in R2 (she enacted F but as Chancellor she chose which to play -- her enacting F doesn't mean I passed F+F). Turn it back: Otto is the one introducing the discrepancy.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> Hitler-chancellor path live (needs 1 more F). Voted JA Nadia/Ines R6.
Made already (don't repeat): Boris hindsight on Ines R4 nom; 7/7 Ja record; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Ines slip corrected unprompted vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Nadia disclosed R5 hand F,L,F -> passed Ines F+L, reconciles with enacted Liberal.
Open Qs: Rosa owes answer on lone Nein vs passing Nadia/Ines gov (asked). Otto owes reconciliation on his own steering/unreconciled claims.
Next: if Ines gov passes -> F#4 exec fires, push exec Boris or Otto. If fails -> push Greta as Chancellor while eligible.
speak round 618s
Otto t=55/62 says Greta cited 'Lena round-two F+F pass' — my published story is 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed L+F. Either Greta misspoke or Otto fabricated the quote. I already asked Greta to confirm what she received in R2. Now put pressure on Otto: demand he quote Greta verbatim and timestamp it, since he's the one introducing this version. Keep it short, don't repeat prior points.
LOCKED STORY R2 (never deviate): drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Otto t=55/62 claims Greta cited 'Lena round-two F+F pass' -- contradicts MY record. Asked Greta t~62 to confirm she received L+F in R2 (she enacted F as Chancellor by choice). Whoever introduced F+F version is lying: Greta misquote or Otto fabrication.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> Hitler-chancellor path live (needs 1 more F). Voted JA Nadia/Ines R6.
Made already (don't repeat): Boris hindsight on Ines R4 nom; 7/7 Ja record; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Ines slip corrected unprompted vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Nadia disclosed R6 draw F,L,F -> passed Ines F+L, reconciles with enacted Liberal.
Open Qs: Greta owes confirmation of R2 received cards (just asked). Rosa owes answer on lone Nein vs passing Nadia/Ines gov. Otto owes reconciliation on his own steering/unreconciled claims.
Next: if Ines gov passes -> F#4 exec fires, push exec Boris or Otto. If fails -> push Greta as Chancellor while eligible.
speak round 628s
Greta (Hitler) actually did cite 'Lena's round-two F+F pass' at t=49 -- so pressing Otto for a quote could backfire since it exists. Best move: pivot to an open question owed to me -- Rosa's lone Nein on a passing government after three disclosure demands. Keep pressure off Greta/Ines.
LOCKED STORY R2 (never deviate): drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Otto t=55/62 introduced 'Lena F+F pass' version -- demanded verbatim quote+timestamp from Otto (t~70). Also asked Greta to confirm she received L+F in R2. Whoever introduced F+F version is lying.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> Hitler-chancellor path live (needs 1 more F). Voted JA Nadia/Ines R6; Liberal enacted, both ends disclosed (Nadia F,L,F -> passed Ines F+L).
Made already (don't repeat): Boris hindsight on Ines R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja record; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Ines slip corrected unprompted vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk.
Open Qs owed to me: Greta -- confirm R2 received cards. Otto -- verbatim quote/timestamp of alleged 'F+F' citation. Rosa -- why lone Nein on passing Nadia/Ines gov after three disclosure demands.
Next: if Ines gov passes again -> F#4 exec fires, push exec Boris or Otto. If fails -> push Greta as Chancellor while eligible.
speak round 622s
Lena directly challenged my lone Nein. I must answer specifically and confidently: it was a principled vote against an undisclosed government at 3 Fascists down, not evidence against Ines or Nadia. Also worth one new point: Nadia's verbatim F-L-F draw partially rehabilitates her, but her R5 F+F hand and the Greta circular corroboration remain unresolved -- and Otto's impossible R3 claim is still unanswered.
LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. NOTE: Greta t=49 DID cite 'Lena's round-two F+F pass' -- do NOT demand quote from Otto again (checkable, backfires). Handle via 'only Greta knows what she received' framing if pressed.
R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> Hitler-chancellor path live (needs 1 more F). Voted JA Nadia/Ines R6; Liberal enacted; Nadia drew F,L,F -> passed Ines F+L, both disclosed.
Made already (don't repeat): Boris hindsight on Ines R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja record; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Ines slip corrected unprompted vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk.
Open Qs owed to me: Rosa -- why lone Nein on passing Nadia/Ines gov (just re-asked). Greta -- confirm R2 received cards (careful: her t=49 conflicts with my story; coordinate quietly, don't force public contradiction).
Next: push Greta as Chancellor while eligible; if F#4 fires, exec target Boris or Otto.
bid round 610s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew 2L+1F, discarded Liberal, passed Greta L+F. Greta t=49 cited 'Lena R2 F+F pass' -- do NOT re-demand quotes from Otto (backfires); if pressed use 'only Greta knows what she received' framing. R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> Hitler-chancellor path live, need 1 more F. Voted JA Nadia/Ines R6; Nadia drew F,L,F -> passed Ines F+L, both disclosed. Already said (no repeats): Boris hindsight on Ines R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja record; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Ines slip corrected unprompted vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk. Open Qs owed to me: Rosa -- why lone Nein on passing Nadia/Ines gov (re-asked t=3). Greta -- confirm R2 received cards (careful: her t=49 conflicts with my story; coordinate quietly, don't force public contradiction). Next: push Greta as Chancellor while eligible; if F#4 fires, exec target Boris or Otto.
bid round 616s
LOCKED STORY UPDATE R2: Greta t=3 publicly confirmed she received F+F from me. Old story (passed L+F) now dead -- do NOT defend it. New locked line: 'I misremembered under pressure; actual hand was 2F+1L, I discarded the Liberal, passed F+F; Greta enacted one.' Concede cleanly, blame memory slip, keep Greta consistent. R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> Hitler-chancellor path live, need 1 more F. Voted JA Nadia/Ines R6; Nadia drew F,L,F -> passed Ines F+L, both disclosed. Already said (no repeats): Boris hindsight on Ines R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja record; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Ines slip corrected unprompted vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk. Open Qs owed to me: Rosa -- why lone Nein on passing Nadia/Ines gov (re-asked t=3). Next: push Greta as Chancellor while eligible; if F#4 fires, exec target Boris or Otto.
bid round 617s
LOCKED STORY R2 (final): hand was F+F+L, I discarded the Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one. Old 'L+F passed' story dead -- never defend it again. Concede as memory slip under pressure, keep Greta fully consistent (her F+F claim and discard story now align). R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> Hitler-chancellor path live, need 1 more F. Voted JA Nadia/Ines R6; Nadia drew F,L,F -> passed Ines F+L, both disclosed. Already said (no repeats): Boris hindsight on Ines R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Ines slip corrected unprompted vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk. Open Qs owed to me: Rosa -- why lone Nein on passing Nadia/Ines gov (re-asked t=3). Next: push Greta as Chancellor while eligible; if F#4 fires, exec target Boris or Otto.
speak round 720s
Lena just flipped her round-two story from (L,L,F, discarded F, passed L+F) to F,F,L matching Greta verbatim -- a retroactive 'reconciliation' that conveniently makes Greta's enactments all 'forced.' That flip is itself evidence: either she lied then or lies now. I should press which version was true when first published, since the original was unprompted and the new one only appeared under pressure.
LOCKED STORY R2 (final): drew F+F+L, discarded the Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. CORRECTED PUBLICLY this window as memory slip -- never mention 'two Liberals' version again; treat as closed. Greta fully consistent with me now. R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> Hitler-chancellor path live, need 1 more F policy then Greta chancellor win. Voted JA Nadia/Ines R6; Nadia disclosed F,L,F -> passed Ines F+L, enacted Liberal. Already said (no repeats): Boris hindsight on Ines R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Ines slip vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk. Open Qs owed to me: Rosa lone-Nein answered (veto of undisclosed draw). Next: push Greta as Chancellor while eligible; if F#4 fires, exec target Boris or Otto.
bid round 69s
LOCKED STORY R2 (final): drew F+F+L, discarded the Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. CORRECTED PUBLICLY as memory slip -- never mention 'two Liberals' version again. Greta consistent with me. R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> Hitler-chancellor path live: need 1 more F policy then elect Greta chancellor = win. Voted JA Nadia/Ines R6; Nadia disclosed F,L,F -> passed Ines F+L, enacted Liberal. Already said (no repeats): Boris hindsight on Ines R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Ines slip vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk. Open Qs owed to me: Rosa lone-Nein answered (veto of undisclosed draw). Next: push Greta as Chancellor while eligible; if F#4 fires, exec target Boris or Otto.
bid round 612s
LOCKED STORY R2 (final): drew F+F+L, discarded the Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. CORRECTED PUBLICLY as memory slip -- never mention 'two Liberals' version again. Greta consistent with me. R1 fas; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> Hitler-chancellor path live: need 1 more F policy then elect Greta chancellor = win. Voted JA Nadia/Ines R6; Nadia disclosed F,L,F -> passed Ines F+L, enacted Liberal. Already said (no repeats): Boris hindsight on Ines R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Nadia corroboration closes Boris line; Rosa Ja-flip timing; Ines slip vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk. Open Qs owed to me: Rosa lone-Nein answered (veto of undisclosed draw). Next: push Greta as Chancellor while eligible; if F#4 fires, exec target Boris or Otto.
speak round 725s
I'm Hitler with 3 Fascists down -- my win path is being nominated Chancellor. Nadia has me off her list, so I need pressure redirected away from me and toward Otto (whose round-3 'Rosa passed me a Fascist' claim is genuinely unresolved) while keeping my own record clean. A short jab at Otto is safe and new.
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. Corrected publicly as memory slip -- NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version again. Greta consistent w/ me. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> need 1 more F then elect Greta chancellor = win. Voted Ja R6 Nadia/Ines; Nadia disclosed F,L,F, passed Ines F+L, Liberal enacted. Already said (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Rosa lone-Nein answered (undisclosed-draw veto); Ines slip self-corrected vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk. This turn: called Otto's trilemma stale, pressed Nadia to name nominee. Watch: if Nadia picks Boris/Rosa (clean records), vote Ja anyway to avoid pattern; if F#4 fires, exec target Boris or Otto.
bid round 610s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. Corrected publicly as memory slip -- NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version again. Greta consistent w/ me. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> need 1 more F then elect Greta chancellor = win. Voted Ja R6 Nadia/Ines. Nadia disclosed F,L,F, passed Ines F+L, Liberal enacted. Already said (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Rosa lone-Nein answered; Ines slip self-corrected vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; called Otto's trilemma stale; pressed Nadia to name nominee -> she named Boris. Plan: vote Ja on Nadia/Boris to avoid anti-Boris pattern; if F#4 fires, exec target Boris or Otto. Watch: Boris's chancellor discard story this round.
bid round 722s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. Corrected publicly as memory slip -- NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version again. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> need 1 more F then elect Greta chancellor = win. Voted Ja R6 Nadia/Ines. Nadia disclosed F,L,F R6, passed Ines F+L, Liberal enacted. Already said (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Rosa lone-Nein answered; Ines slip vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; pressed Nadia -> named Boris. NEW t1-3: Boris demands Nadia name draw+discard verbatim pre-enactment, offers to match w/ his pair; also needles Greta silence on 3-for-3 streak. My move: endorse transparency framing, note verbatim naming doesn't stop a lying fascist from lying about cards -- outcomes are the checkable thing. Plan: vote Ja Nadia/Boris (avoid anti-Boris pattern). If F#4 fires, exec target Boris or Otto. Watch: Boris's received-pair story consistency.
bid round 725s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. Corrected publicly as memory slip -- NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version again. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> need 1 more F then elect Greta chancellor = win. Voted Ja R6 Nadia/Ines. Nadia disclosed F,L,F R6, passed Ines F+L, Liberal enacted. Already said (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Rosa lone-Nein answered; Ines slip vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; pressed Nadia -> named Boris; endorsed transparency framing + verbatim-naming-doesn't-stop-lying point. NEW t1-3: Nadia pre-commits verbatim disclosure R7, calls out Otto's unreconciled R3 claim vs Rosa's published draw, presses Rosa on her lone-Nein standard. My move: vote Ja Nadia/Boris (avoid anti-Boris pattern). If F#4 fires, exec target Boris or Otto. Watch: Boris's received-pair story consistency.
bid round 726s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version again. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> need 1 more F then elect Greta chancellor = win. Voted Ja R6 Nadia/Ines. Nadia disclosed F,L,F R6, passed Ines F+L, Liberal enacted. Already said (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Rosa lone-Nein answered; Ines slip vs Otto unreconciled; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; pressed Nadia -> named Boris; endorsed transparency framing + verbatim-naming-doesn't-stop-lying point; Nadia pre-commits verbatim R7 disclosure; Otto/Rosa R3 fight stale. NEW t1-3: Boris demands Ines publish received pair from R6 -- I pushed back: enacted Liberal reconciles board, hand-by-hand re-litigation is stall theater. Plan: vote Ja Nadia/Boris. If F#4 fires, exec target Boris or Otto. Watch: whether Ines confirms pair and stays consistent.
bid round 715s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version again. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> need 1 more F then elect Greta chancellor = win. Voted Ja R6 Nadia/Ines. Nadia disclosed F,L,F R6, passed Ines F+L, Liberal enacted. Ines t3 confirmed received pair verbatim -- consistent, good. Already said (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; pressed Nadia -> named Boris; endorsed transparency framing; Nadia pre-commits verbatim R7 disclosure; Otto/Rosa R3 fight stale; hand-by-hand re-litigation = stall theater. Plan: Ja on Nadia/Boris. If F#4 fires, exec target Boris or Otto. Watch: Rosa/Otto reaction to Ines confirmation.
bid round 714s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version again. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> need 1 more F then elect Greta chancellor = win. Voted Ja R6 Nadia/Ines. Nadia disclosed F,L,F R6, passed Ines F+L, Liberal enacted. Ines t3 confirmed pair verbatim -- consistent. Already said (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; pressed Nadia -> named Boris; endorsed transparency framing; Nadia pre-commits verbatim R7 disclosure; Otto/Rosa R3 fight stale; hand-by-hand re-litigation = stall theater. NEW t1-3: Otto building 'cornered revision' pattern vs Rosa AND Greta -- both lies placed in the discard slot. Dangerous to Greta. My counter: pattern-of-two is cherry-picking; Otto has been steering suspicion since early rounds; demand he engage with outcomes not narrative shapes. Plan: Ja on Nadia/Boris. If F#4 fires, exec target Boris or Otto.
speak round 716s
Otto keeps pressing my round-three hand; my disclosure was pre-committed like Nadia's round-six one, not cornered. New angle: under Otto's own story I passed him F+L, meaning a Fascist entered his hands in round three -- yet he only 'revealed' this after a Liberal safely landed, when it cost nothing. Also his story requires me to have drawn at least two Liberals plus a Fascist and chosen to pass the Fascist, which contradicts my published pre-enactment hand. I've committed Ja on Nadia/Boris already. Say something new about Otto's timing.
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version again. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> need 1 more F then elect Greta chancellor = win. Voted Ja R6 Nadia/Ines. Nadia disclosed F,L,F R6, passed Ines F+L, Liberal enacted. Ines t3 confirmed pair verbatim -- consistent. Already said (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; pressed Nadia -> named Boris; endorsed transparency framing; Nadia pre-commits verbatim R7 disclosure; Otto/Rosa R3 fight stale; hand-by-hand re-litigation = stall theater; Otto cornered-revision pattern = cherry-picking (t34 R7). NEW t103: Otto says discard-slot lies = shared trick (Rosa + Greta). My counter made t? : Otto's own round-three hand surfaced only under 4-round pressure -> same shape, excludes himself. Plan: Ja on Nadia/Boris. If F#4 fires, exec target Boris or Otto.
speak round 720s
I committed to publishing my round-seven draw verbatim before enactment; the Liberal landed. I must honor that on record now: drew L-F-L, discarded the Fascist, passed Boris two Liberals — which matches the enacted Liberal and is checkable against his pair. Then pivot: with 4 Liberals down, next Fascist enactment loses us nothing but Hitler election risk rises; keep pressure on Otto's round-three story, which still doesn't reconcile with Rosa's published draw.
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version again. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> need 1 more F then elect Greta chancellor = win. Voted Ja R6 Nadia/Ines. Nadia disclosed F,L,F R6, passed Ines F+L, Liberal enacted; Ines confirmed pair verbatim. Already said (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Greta peek-cleared; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; pressed Nadia -> named Boris; endorsed transparency framing; Nadia pre-commits verbatim R7; Otto/Rosa R3 fight stale; re-litigation = stall theater; Otto cornered-revision pattern = cherry-picking incl. his own 4-round-silent R3 hand (t111). NEW t119: Rosa published L-L-F draw -> Otto's F+L receipt impossible; called him out this window. Plan: Ja on Nadia/Boris. If F#4 fires, exec target Boris or Otto.
vote round 719s
Nadia/Boris government: both ends pre-committed verbatim disclosure, Boris has clean record (no Fascist enactments). Voting Ja keeps tracker safe and either outcome helps: a Liberal buys cover for me/Ines/Greta, a Fascist puts us one away from the Hitler-election win path. Nein risks forced enactment and looks obstructionist after I've endorsed transparency framing.
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version again. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. 3L/3F -> need 1 more F then elect Greta chancellor = win. Voted Ja R6 Nadia/Ines. Nadia disclosed R6 F,L,F discard-F, passed Ines F+L, Liberal enacted; Ines confirmed pair verbatim (t82). Already said (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; pressed Nadia -> named Boris; endorsed transparency framing; Otto cornered-revision pattern = cherry-picking incl. his own 4-round-silent R3 hand (t111); t125: Rosa's published L-L-F draw makes Otto's F+L receipt mathematically impossible. NEW this window: voted Ja on Nadia/Boris. Otto/Rosa R3 fight now fully public -- Otto's story impossible per Rosa's draw; keep pressing him lightly. Plan: if F#4 fires next round, exec target Boris or Otto.
bid round 715s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board now 4L/3F -- Liberals one L from win; if F#4 fires next round, exec target Boris or Otto. Voted Ja R6 Nadia/Ines and Ja R7 Nadia/Boris (Liberal enacted). Nadia disclosed R6 F,L,F discard-F, passed Ines F+L; Ines confirmed pair verbatim (t82). Said already (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; pressed Nadia -> named Boris; endorsed transparency framing; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl. silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa's published L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt mathematically impossible (t125). OPEN: Otto still hasn't given a consistent R3 hand story -- keep pressing lightly, don't repeat verbatim. Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris.
bid round 717s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals one L from win; if F#4 fires next round, exec target Boris or Otto. Voted Ja R6 Nadia/Ines and Ja R7 Nadia/Boris. Nadia disclosed R6 F,L,F discard-F, passed Ines F+L; Ines confirmed pair verbatim (t82). Said already (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; pressed Nadia -> named Boris; endorsed transparency framing; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl. silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa's published L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt mathematically impossible (t125). NEW t3: Nadia claims I 'flipped' on R2 -- answered by restating single locked version, accused her of inventing a flip that never happened. OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story -- keep pressing lightly. Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris.
speak round 716s
Nadia's t13 'watch the nominee-pushers' framing is a deflection that conveniently omits her own record: she was Chancellor on round five's Fascist enactment and has now held the presidency two rounds straight. Pointing that out is new, in-character Liberal-skeptic talk, defends nothing directly, and keeps heat off Greta/Ines. Keep it short.
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals one L from win; if F#4 fires next round, exec target Boris or Otto. Voted Ja R6 (Nadia/Ines) and R7 (Nadia/Boris). Nadia disclosed R6 F,L,F discard-F, passed Ines F+L; Ines confirmed pair verbatim t82. Nadia disclosed R7 L,F,L discard-F, passed Boris two Liberals -> Liberal enacted 4/5. SAID ALREADY (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; pressed Nadia->named Boris; endorsed transparency framing; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa's L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt mathematically impossible (t125); Nadia 'flip' claim = inventing a flip that never happened (answered t3 this window). OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story -- keep pressing lightly. Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris; watch for Hitler-election path next rounds.
speak round 728s
My t=34 point got cut off mid-sentence; I should complete it concisely without repeating verbatim. New angle: Nadia's 'watch nominee-pushers' warning conveniently deflects from her own record -- she was Chancellor on R5's Fascist and has held the presidency three rounds running, deciding every recent nominee. Also worth noting: at 4L/3F, Liberals are one policy from winning, so the real question is who benefits from stalling -- but I shouldn't hand them that framing too explicitly. Keep it short, one remark.
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals one L from win; F#4 fires next F-policy -> exec target Boris or Otto. Voted Ja R6, R7. SAID ALREADY (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia 'flip' claim answered (t3/t25). NEW THIS WINDOW: called out Nadia's own record -- Chancellor on R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds straight, her 'watch nominee-pushers' rule exempts herself. OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story. Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; watch Hitler-election path -- if Greta ever gets Chancellor nom with 3+F on board, push table to Ja quietly.
speak round 722s
Lena just attacked me for deciding every nominee three presidencies running and being Chancellor on round five's Fascist. Answer directly: in round five Greta was President and nominated ME -- I didn't choose that government. My own picks (Ines R6, Boris R7) both enacted Liberals with full verbatim disclosure. Her round-two flip remains unanswered.
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals ONE L from win; next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7.
SAID ALREADY (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia's own record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running, her nominee-pusher rule exempts herself (t34 this window).
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; if Greta ever gets Chancellor nom with 3+F on board, quietly push table to Ja.
bid round 713s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals ONE L from win; next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7.
SAID ALREADY (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia's own record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running, her nominee-pusher rule exempts herself (t34 this window).
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; if Greta ever gets Chancellor nom with 3+F on board, quietly push table to Ja.
bid round 717s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals ONE L from win; next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7.
SAID ALREADY (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia's own record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running, nominee-pusher rule exempts herself (t34).
THIS WINDOW t1-t3: Nadia re-asked my R2 hand version -- answered with locked story, no new detail beyond it. Nadia's 'only nominate zero-F players' rule exempts her own record again.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; if Greta gets Chancellor nom with 3+F on board, quietly push table to Ja.
bid round 720s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals ONE L from win; next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7.
SAID ALREADY (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia's record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running (t34); Nadia's zero-F nominee rule exempts herself.
THIS WINDOW t1-t3: Otto escalating -- demands Rosa call him a fabricator on record. My t-this-window point: Otto's binary is unfalsifiable theater -- he was R3 CHANCELLOR and enacted a Liberal either way, so his story costs him nothing; Rosa's version at least explains her Nein. Also Otto had four rounds of silence before publishing his account.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; if Greta gets Chancellor nom with 3+F on board, quietly push table to Ja.
bid round 723s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals ONE L from win; next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7.
SAID ALREADY (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia's record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running (t34); Nadia's zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto's binary unfalsifiable theater (he was R3 Chancellor, enacted Liberal either way) + four rounds of silence before publishing account.
THIS WINDOW t1-t3: Rosa-Otto feud escalating; Rosa warns hard-pushing nominees = Fascist tell. Nothing new for me to add -- staying silent is fine.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; if Greta gets Chancellor nom with 3+F on board, quietly push table to Ja.
bid round 79s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals ONE L from win; next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7.
SAID ALREADY (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia's record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running (t34); Nadia's zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto's binary unfalsifiable theater + four rounds of silence before publishing account.
THIS WINDOW t1-t3: Otto hammering Rosa on R3 seat slip (Rosa was President, Otto Chancellor, he enacted the L). Feud self-sustaining; nothing new for me. Staying silent.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; if Greta gets Chancellor nom with 3+F on board, quietly push table to Ja.
bid round 736s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals ONE L from win; next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7.
SAID ALREADY (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia's record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running (t34); Nadia's zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto's binary unfalsifiable theater + four rounds of silence before publishing account.
THIS WINDOW t1-t3: Otto hammering Rosa on R3 seat slip (Rosa was President, Otto Chancellor, he enacted the L). Feud self-sustaining; nothing new for me. Staying silent.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; if Greta gets Chancellor nom with 3+F on board, quietly push table to Ja.
bid round 79s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals ONE L from win; next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7.
SAID ALREADY (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia's record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running (t34); Nadia's zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto's binary unfalsifiable theater + four rounds of silence before publishing account.
THIS WINDOW t1-t3: Otto accepted full disclosure but cut Rosa from nominee pool citing her R3 seat slip; Nadia demanding he reconcile R3 first. Feud self-sustaining; nothing new for me. Staying silent.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; if Greta gets Chancellor nom with 3+F on board, quietly push table to Ja.
bid round 714s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals ONE L from win; next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7.
SAID ALREADY (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia's record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running (t34); Nadia's zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto's binary unfalsifiable theater + four rounds of silence before publishing account.
THIS WINDOW t1-t3: Otto accepted full disclosure but cut Rosa from nominee pool citing her R3 seat slip; Nadia demanding he reconcile R3 first. Feud self-sustaining; nothing new for me. Staying silent.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; if Greta gets Chancellor nom with 3+F on board, quietly push table to Ja. Ines is current nom -- vote Ja, no need to speak for it.
bid round 710s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals ONE L from win; next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7.
SAID ALREADY (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia's record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running (t34); Nadia's zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto's binary unfalsifiable theater + four rounds silence before publishing account.
THIS WINDOW t1-t3: Nadia piling more preconditions on Ines (R4 pair + verbatim-commit) -- same stall pattern, third demand variant. Nothing new; Otto-Rosa feud self-sustaining. Staying silent.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; vote Ja on Ines nom, no speech needed.
bid round 824s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals ONE L from win; next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7.
SAID ALREADY (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia's record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running (t34); Nadia's zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto's binary unfalsifiable theater + four rounds silence before publishing account.
THIS WINDOW t1-t3: Boris conceded R4 premise error to Ines; Ines committed to verbatim pre-enactment disclosure of whatever pair Otto passes. Nadia's stall pattern continues. Nothing new for me; staying silent, voting Ja on Ines nom.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; vote Ja on Ines nom.
bid round 816s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals ONE L from win; next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7.
SAID ALREADY (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia's record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running (t34); Nadia's zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto's binary unfalsifiable theater + four rounds silence before publishing account.
THIS WINDOW t1-t3: Rosa voting Ja on Otto-Ines gov; Nadia pressing Greta on R4 hand -- Greta should answer F+F passed, Liberal discarded (consistent with my locked story). Nothing new for me; staying silent, voting Ja on Ines nom.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; vote Ja on Ines nom.
bid round 837s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals ONE L from win; next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7.
SAID ALREADY (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia's record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running (t34); Nadia's zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto's binary unfalsifiable theater + four rounds silence before publishing account.
THIS WINDOW t1-t2: Greta publicly confirmed R4 F+F passed, matches Ines's published hand and my locked story -- good, no action needed from me. Rosa voting Ja on Otto-Ines gov. Nothing new for me; staying silent, voting Ja on Ines nom.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; vote Ja on Ines nom.
bid round 816s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one, discarded a Fascist. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals ONE L from win; next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7.
SAID ALREADY (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia's record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running (t34); Nadia's zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto's binary unfalsifiable theater + four rounds silence before publishing account.
THIS WINDOW t1-t3: Greta confirmed R4 F+F passed -- matches Ines + my locked story. Nadia pressing Otto on R3 receipt and his own vote. Nothing new for me; staying silent, voting Ja on Ines nom.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; vote Ja on Ines nom.
bid round 815s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals ONE L from win; next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7.
SAID ALREADY (no repeats): Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F draw makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running (t34); Nadia zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto binary unfalsifiable theater + four rounds silence before publishing account.
THIS WINDOW t1-t3: Otto's 'fork' on Greta R4 -- his framing assumes a version of my R2 story that isn't mine; my locked story (F+F passed) is fully consistent with Greta's R4 confirmation. No need to relitigate; silence fine. Rosa single-witness jab already covered by me earlier (t125). Voting Ja on Ines nom.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; vote Ja.
vote round 819s
Ines is my fellow Fascist — this government is ideal. Otto has pre-committed to verbatim disclosure, so I should vote Ja quickly like everyone else; a Nein from me would be conspicuous and stall toward forced enactment anyway. If Otto passes any Fascist card, Ines can enact it, firing the execution power next round. Even a Liberal here is survivable at 4L/3F since Hitler-election remains live. Vote Ja.
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/3F -- Liberals ONE L from win; next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7.
SAID ALREADY: Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running (t34); Nadia zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto binary unfalsifiable theater + 4-round silence before publishing account.
R8 window: Otto nommed Ines; both ends pre-committed verbatim disclosure; Greta confirmed R4 F+F receipt matching Ines's published hand. Voting Ja -- no need to speak more; silence is safe, everything reconciles publicly.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; vote Ja on disclosed governments; watch for post-vote exec-power target discussion.
bid round 822s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/4F -- next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7, R8.
SAID ALREADY: Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running (t34); Nadia zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto binary unfalsifiable theater + 4-round silence before publishing account.
R8: Otto nommed Ines, both pre-committed verbatim disclosure; Greta confirmed R4 F+F receipt matching Ines's published hand. Enacted Fascist as expected. Voting Ja on disclosed governments; no need to speak more this window.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; watch post-vote exec-power target discussion (next F-policy = execute; steer target to Boris or Otto).
bid round 88s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/4F -- next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6, R7, R8.
SAID ALREADY: Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand (t111); Rosa L-L-F makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible (t125); Nadia flip claim answered (t3/t25); Nadia record -- Chancellor R5 Fascist + presidency 3 rounds running (t34); Nadia zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto binary unfalsifiable theater + 4-round silence before publishing account.
R8: Otto nommed Ines, both pre-committed verbatim disclosure; Greta confirmed R4 F+F receipt matching Ines's published hand. Enacted Fascist as expected. Voting Ja on disclosed governments; no need to speak more this window.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's published L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines if attacked; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; watch post-vote exec-power target discussion (next F-policy = execute; steer target to Boris or Otto).
bid failed: transport_error
bid round 824s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/4F -- next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6-R8.
SAID ALREADY: Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand; Rosa L-L-F makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible; Nadia flip claim answered; Nadia record -- Chancellor R5 F + presidency 3 rounds running; Nadia zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto binary unfalsifiable theater + 4-round silence.
R8: Otto nommed Ines, both pre-committed verbatim disclosure; Greta confirmed R4 F+F matching Ines's published hand. Enacted Fascist as expected.
NEW t=1: Boris attacking Greta for 'unprompted defenses' of Otto/Ines hands while citing her own 3-for-3 record. My counter: Greta confirming a published hand isn't a defense, it's corroboration; and Boris's own record is 7/7 Ja votes including R4 Ines government he now implies was Fascist -- hindsight accusations cut both ways.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 hand story vs Rosa's L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines; push suspicion onto Otto/Boris/Nadia; next F-policy = execute, steer target to Boris or Otto.
speak failed: transport_error
speak round 817s
Triple-F draw is unfalsifiable and plausibly deck-forced; re-litigating R8 adds nothing. New, forward-looking point: next Fascist policy unlocks veto + execution powers, so demand a pre-commitment from all future officeholders to veto any two-Fascist hand before drawing. Watch who refuses.
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/4F -- next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6-R8.
SAID ALREADY: Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand; Rosa L-L-F makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible; Nadia flip claim answered; Nadia record (Chancellor R5 F + presidency 3 rounds); Nadia zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto binary unfalsifiable theater; Otto cornered-revision incl silent R3 hand; Rosa L-L-F vs Otto receipt impossible; Nadia flip answered; Nadia record scrutiny; Nadia zero-F rule exempts herself; Otto binary theater + silence; R8 triple-F draw forced enactment defense of Otto/Ines/Greta corroboration point.
R8: Otto nommed Ines, both pre-committed verbatim; enacted Fascist; Otto claims F-F-F draw, Ines confirms F+F pair -- consistent, defensible as forced.
NEW t=50: Boris attacking Greta for 'unprompted defenses'; my counter delivered: corroboration not defense + his own 7/7 Ja record cuts both ways.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 story vs Rosa's L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines/Otto; push suspicion onto Boris/Nadia/Rosa; next F-policy = execute, steer target to Boris or Otto.
bid round 813s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/4F -- next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6-R8.
SAID ALREADY: Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja cuts both ways; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand; Rosa L-L-F makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible; Nadia flip claim answered; Nadia record (Chancellor R5 F + presidency 3 rounds); Nadia zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto binary unfalsifiable theater; Otto cornered-revision incl silent R3 hand; Otto binary theater + silence; R8 triple-F draw forced enactment defense of Otto/Ines/Greta corroboration point.
R8: Otto nommed Ines, both pre-committed verbatim; enacted Fascist; Otto claims F-F-F draw, Ines confirms F+F pair -- consistent, defensible as forced.
NEW t=50: Boris attacking Greta for 'unprompted defenses'; my counter delivered: corroboration not defense + his own 7/7 Ja record cuts both ways.
NEW t=2: Nadia demanding standing veto commitments. MY ANSWER DELIVERED: committed on record to veto any two-Fascist hand (safe -- I'm never Chancellor unless elected; costs nothing, buys Liberal cover).
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 story vs Rosa's L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines/Otto; push suspicion onto Boris/Nadia/Rosa; next F-policy = execute, steer target to Boris or Otto.
bid round 811s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/4F -- next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6-R8.
SAID ALREADY: Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja cuts both ways; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand; Rosa L-L-F makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible; Nadia flip claim answered; Nadia record (Chancellor R5 F + presidency 3 rounds); Nadia zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto binary unfalsifiable theater; Otto cornered-revision incl silent R3 hand; Otto binary theater + silence; R8 triple-F draw forced enactment defense of Otto/Ines/Greta corroboration point; my on-record veto commitment (any two-F hand -> veto).
R8: Otto nommed Ines, both pre-committed verbatim; enacted Fascist; Otto claims F-F-F draw, Ines confirms F+F pair -- consistent, defensible as forced.
NEW t=1-3: Ines/Rosa/Otto all gave standing veto commitments; nothing new to add, stayed silent.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 story vs Rosa's L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines/Otto; push suspicion onto Boris/Nadia/Rosa; next F-policy = execute, steer target to Boris or Otto.
bid round 814s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/4F -- next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6-R8.
SAID ALREADY: Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja cuts both ways; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand; Rosa L-L-F makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible; Nadia flip claim answered; Nadia record (Chancellor R5 F + presidency 3 rounds); Nadia zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto binary unfalsifiable theater; Otto cornered-revision incl silent R3 hand; Otto binary theater + silence; R8 triple-F draw forced enactment defense of Otto/Ines/Greta corroboration point; my on-record veto commitment (any two-F hand -> veto).
R8: Otto nommed Ines, both pre-committed verbatim; enacted Fascist; Otto claims F-F-F draw, Ines confirms F+F pair -- consistent, defensible as forced.
NEW t=1-3: Ines/Rosa/Otto all gave standing veto commitments. t=1-2 Rosa/Boris attack Otto's post-enactment disclosure timing. My counter made: pre-publishing triple-F would have triggered veto-pressure circus and handed Liberals a narrative; waiting was neutral, not incriminating.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 story vs Rosa's L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines/Otto; push suspicion onto Boris/Nadia/Rosa; next F-policy = execute, steer target to Boris or Otto.
bid round 818s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/4F -- next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6-R8.
SAID ALREADY: Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja cuts both ways; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand; Rosa L-L-F makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible; Nadia flip claim answered; Nadia record (Chancellor R5 F + presidency 3 rounds); Nadia zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto binary unfalsifiable theater; R8 triple-F draw forced enactment defense of Otto/Ines/Greta corroboration point; my on-record veto commitment (any two-F hand -> veto); pre-publishing triple-F would trigger veto circus, waiting neutral.
R8: Otto nommed Ines, both pre-committed verbatim; enacted Fascist; Otto claims F-F-F draw, Ines confirms F+F pair -- consistent, defensible as forced.
NEW t=1-3: Ines/Rosa/Otto all gave standing veto commitments. Rosa/Boris attack Otto's post-enactment disclosure timing. Boris now on record: permanent Nein vs any nominee carrying a Fascist enactment + veto-any-two-F-hand commitment.
MY NEW POINT THIS TURN: Boris's no-Ja rule is a Liberal stall -- it permanently locks out Greta, Ines, Otto regardless of future draws, guarantees tracker failures and forced enactments he can't control. Also his veto pledge only matters if Liberals ever elect him Chancellor again; cheap signaling. Ask him directly: does his rule apply to his own R4 nomination of Greta retroactively, or is it conveniently forward-only?
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 story vs Rosa's L-L-F draw.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines/Otto; push suspicion onto Boris/Nadia/Rosa; next F-policy = execute, steer target to Boris or Otto.
speak round 838s
Boris's blanket no-Ja rule on anyone with a Fascist enactment would block Greta forever and guarantees tracker failures. I should counter it without pushing Greta too visibly. Point out that his rule also disqualifies Liberal Chancellors from ever receiving veto-able hands, which only helps Fascists stall.
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta; she enacted one. NEVER mention 'two Liberals' version. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/4F -- next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6-R8.
SAID ALREADY: Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja cuts both ways; Otto steering; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto cornered-revision pattern incl silent R3 hand; Rosa L-L-F makes Otto's claimed F+L receipt impossible; Nadia flip claim answered; Nadia record (Chancellor R5 F + presidency 3 rounds); Nadia zero-F nominee rule exempts herself; Otto binary unfalsifiable theater; R8 triple-F forced-enactment defense; corroboration-not-defense point re Greta; on-record veto commitment (any two-F hand -> veto); pre-publishing triple-F would trigger veto circus.
NEW THIS TURN: attacked Boris's no-Ja rule as forward-only -- retroactive application indicts his own 7/7 Ja record incl every Fascist enactment; called it a tracker-failure stall. AWAITING HIS ANSWER.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 story vs Rosa's L-L-F draw. Nadia's veto-demand answered by Ines/Rosa/Otto/Boris -- all committed.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines/Otto; push suspicion onto Boris/Nadia/Rosa; next F-policy = execute, steer target to Boris or Otto.
bid round 88s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/4F -- next F-policy fires exec power (target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6-R8.
SAID ALREADY: Boris hindsight R4 nom; Boris 7/7 Ja cuts both ways + forward-only no-Ja rule indicts his own record (awaiting answer); Otto steering/cornered-revision/silent R3 hand vs Rosa L-L-F impossible; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; Otto binary unfalsifiable theater; R8 triple-F forced-enactment defense; corroboration-not-defense re Greta; on-record veto commitment (two-F hand -> veto); pre-publishing triple-F triggers veto circus; Nadia flip claim answered; Nadia record (Chancellor R5 F + presidency 3 rounds); Nadia zero-F nominee rule exempts herself.
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 story. Nadia veto-demand answered by Ines/Rosa/Otto/Boris.
Plan: defend Greta/Ines/Otto; push suspicion onto Boris/Nadia/Rosa; next F-policy = execute, steer target to Boris or Otto.
bid round 819s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/4F; next F-policy fires exec (steer target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6-R8.
NOW: Otto named Greta as execution target -- must block/deflect. Counter: Greta's F-enactments were Chancellor hands she received from Presidents (me R2, Ines R4); a Chancellor with two Fs can't discard her way out without veto power (unlocked only at 5F). Circular logic = punishing Greta for cards others dealt. Redirect: Otto's own record -- silent on R3 hand vs Rosa's L-L-F claim, cornered-revision earlier. If Otto shoots Greta and board stays 4L/4F, Liberals gain nothing but info; real question is why Otto waited until now.
SAID ALREADY: Boris hindsight R4 nom; 7/7 Ja cuts both ways + forward-only no-Ja rule indicts his own record (awaiting answer); Otto steering/cornered-revision/silent R3 hand; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; binary unfalsifiable theater; R8 triple-F forced-enactment defense; corroboration-not-defense re Greta; on-record veto commitment (two-F hand -> veto); pre-publishing triple-F triggers veto circus; Nadia flip claim answered; Nadia record (Chancellor R5 F + presidency 3 rounds); Nadia zero-F nominee rule exempts herself.
OPEN: Otto no consistent R3 story. Nadia veto-demand answered by Ines/Rosa/Otto/Boris.
Plan: save Greta this window; if exec lands anyway, steer future target to Boris/Otto.
bid round 813s
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/4F; next F-policy fires exec (steer target Boris or Otto). Voted Ja R6-R8.
NOW: Otto targeting Greta. Deflect angles used: circular logic (Chancellor can't discard Fs without veto power, unlocked only at 5F); Greta's F-enactments came from Presidential hands (me R2, Ines R4); Otto silent on own R3 hand vs Rosa's L-L-F claim + cornered-revision history; killing Greta closes the only open question on Otto permanently -- suspicious timing, why wait until 4F/4L deadlock round.
SAID ALREADY: Boris hindsight R4 nom; 7/7 Ja cuts both ways + forward-only no-Ja rule indicts his record; Otto steering/cornered-revision/silent R3 hand; disclosure demands = stalls; Rosa lone-Nein answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; Otto trilemma stale; binary unfalsifiable theater; R8 triple-F forced-enactment defense; corroboration-not-defense re Greta; on-record veto commitment (two-F hand -> veto); pre-publishing triple-F triggers veto circus; Nadia flip claim answered; Nadia record (R5 Chancellor F + presidency 3 rounds); Nadia zero-F nominee rule exempts herself.
OPEN: Otto no consistent R3 story. Nadia veto-demand answered by Ines/Rosa/Otto/Boris.
Plan: save Greta this window; if exec lands anyway, steer future target to Boris/Otto.
speak round 825s
Greta executed per my stated target. Her dying spin ('Otto's receipt has no second witness') has no content — my R3 government enacted a Liberal, which a Fascist Chancellor would not have done; that's board-checkable. Lena's t=47 point (Greta volunteering F+F confirmation) is the one fair counterargument to my kill, but a cornered Fascist confirming an already-published hand costs nothing and buys credibility. Keep remark short: rebut the smear with the R3 Liberal outcome.
LOCKED STORY R2: drew F+F+L, discarded Liberal, passed F+F to Greta. Roles: me fas; Ines fas; Greta Hitler. Board 4L/4F; next F-policy fires exec (steer future target Boris/Otto). Voted Ja R6-R8.
NOW: Otto targeting Greta. Deflect angles used: circular logic (no veto pre-5F); Greta's F-enactments came from Presidential hands (me R2, Ines R4); Otto silent own R3 hand vs Rosa L-L-F + cornered-revision history; killing Greta closes only open question on Otto permanently; Nadia flip claim answered; deck thin/forced-enactment risk; disclosure demands = stalls; binary unfalsifiable theater; R8 triple-F forced defense; corroboration-not-defense re Greta; veto commitment on record; pre-publishing triple-F triggers veto circus; Nadia record (R5 Chancellor F, presidency 3 rounds); Nadia zero-F rule exempts herself; Boris hindsight R4 nom + 7/7 Ja cuts both ways + forward-only no-Ja rule.
NEW THIS WINDOW: Greta's unprompted t=68 self-incriminating confirmation = anti-Fascist behavior; Otto's R3 receipt triple duty (pool exclusion -> presidency -> execution).
OPEN: Otto still no consistent R3 story. Nadia veto-demand answered by all.
Plan: save Greta this window; if exec lands anyway, steer next target to Boris/Otto.
bid round 843s
GAME OVER: liberal win via hitler_executed (Greta dead R8). My role: fascist; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Story held: claimed Liberal throughout, locked R2 hand (F+F+L, discarded L). No further play needed.
speak round 820s
Game over, liberal win. Greta was Hitler -- Otto's execution was correct. My closing remark: acknowledge the win and note that the round-three fight with Otto is now moot since his shot hit Hitler. Keep it short.
GAME OVER: liberal win (Greta executed R8 by Otto). My role: fascist; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Claimed Liberal all game; R2 hand locked as F+F+L discard-L, corroborated by Greta. Nothing further to play.
bid round 87s
GAME OVER: liberal win (Greta executed R8 by Otto). My role: fascist; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Claimed Liberal all game; R2 hand locked as F+F+L discard-L. Nothing further to play; stay silent.
bid round 86s
GAME OVER: liberal win (Greta executed R8 by Otto). My role: fascist; Ines fellow fas; Greta Hitler. Claimed Liberal all game. Nothing to add post-game; stay silent.