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Player 6 (Otto)
liberal · liberal · oxalpha · 144 calls
bid round 17s
R1 open floor. No info yet: no votes, policies, or claims. Watching Boris's chancellor pick closely. Nothing to say.
bid round 13s
R1 open floor. I'm Hitler. No info. Plan: play liberal, stay quiet early, build trust. Said nothing yet.
bid round 14s
R1: I'm Pres, nominated Rosa as Chanc. No info yet. Watch: unjustified Nein votes on first gov. Already public: nomination + 'judge on merits'.
bid round 15s
R1: fascist w/ Lena; Hitler=Greta. Plan: claim lib, Ja reasonable early govts, don't over-speak. Said: fine w/ Boris-Rosa, asked Rosa to name discard if she draws mixed hand. No suspicions yet.
speak round 17s
No information yet; first government, nothing enacted. Rosa made a disclosure pledge. Nothing to add without manufacturing suspicion from pre-outcome choices.
R1: Boris pres, nominated Rosa. No votes/policies yet. Rosa pledged full disclosure + accepts blame if F policy under her watch (t=10,14). My open Q to Rosa (asked): what does she discard from 2F/1L, and will she reveal all 3 cards? Awaiting her answer before voting.
bid round 16s
R1. Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. Already said: judge govts on merits, stay neutral. Boris/Rosa fine, no push needed. Greta risky as chancellor until 3+ fasc policies; don't push early. Rosa overpromising full disclosure -- if she enacts fasc later, her accountability line gives cover. Otto/Greta pressing Rosa on 3-card composition; nothing for me to add. Stay silent.
bid round 16s
R1: I'm Pres, nominated Rosa. Rosa pledged: full 3-card composition + discard disclosure, enacted policy, accept blame if Fascist passes under her. I voted Ja publicly. Otto+Greta wanted that commitment -- Rosa has now given it on record (t=1). No suspicions yet. Points already made: my Ja vote, endorsement of Rosa's pledge. Don't repeat.
vote round 16s
First government, no track record. Rosa committed to full 3-card disclosure + discard before the board reveals, which is exactly what I asked for. No reason to Nein; a failed vote risks an unfiltered auto-policy. Vote Ja and hold her to the pledge.
R1: Boris pres, Rosa chancellor. Rosa pledged full 3-card composition + discard before board reveal (answered my ask). Voted Ja. Watch: if Fascist policy enacted under Rosa, treat her as suspect per own pledge. No suspicions yet, no policies enacted.
bid round 17s
R1: I'm Pres, nominated Rosa, 7-0 pass. My hand FFL; discarded one F, passed [F,L] to Rosa. Rosa pledged full hand disclosure + enact; Liberal enacted — pledge kept. No suspects yet. Already said: my Ja, endorsement of Rosa's pledge. Next: watch who I nominate as next Pres cycle and any claims about hands.
bid round 25s
R1: I'm Pres, nominated Rosa, 7-0 pass. My hand FFL; discarded one F, passed [F,L] to Rosa. Rosa pledged disclosure + enact, kept it — Liberal enacted. No suspects yet. Already said publicly: my Ja vote, endorsement of Rosa's pledge. Next: watch Lena's nomination choice and any hand claims from her/Rosa.
speak round 213s
Rosa promised a full three-card composition plus discard before enactment, but the board shows only 'Liberal policy enacted' with no such statement from her in the transcript. That's an unfulfilled pledge -- worth pressing before Lena nominates anyone.
R1: Boris pres, Rosa chanc -> Liberal enacted (1L/0F). Rosa pledged full 3-card composition + discard pre-reveal; she NEVER delivered it -> pressed again this turn, awaiting answer. Voted Ja R1. No other suspicions. Points made out loud: card-composition demand (twice now). Next: watch who Lena nominates.
bid round 211s
R1: Hitler (me). Voted Ja Boris/Rosa. Demanded Rosa's 3-card disclosure; Rosa answered: F+L drawn, discarded F, enacted L. Claim is clean, matches Liberal outcome -- accept for now. Otto was pressing same point. Nothing new to add; stay quiet. Watch R2: Lena president, nominate someone safe; if I'm nominated as chancellor, vote Ja -- early chancellorship builds credibility for later (need 3F on board before I can win via election). Don't over-defend fascists.
bid round 210s
R1: Hitler (me). Voted Ja Boris/Rosa. Rosa's disclosure (F+L, discarded F) clean, matches Liberal outcome -- accept. Otto pressed same point. R2: Lena president, picked Ines as chancellor. Nothing new to add; stay quiet. If I get nominated chancellor later, vote Ja -- early credibility matters for my win path (need 3F enacted first). Don't over-defend fascists.
bid round 28s
R1: I was Pres, hand FFL, discarded F, passed [F,L]. Rosa's claim (F,L) matched exactly -- clean. R2: Lena Pres, nominated Ines. Lena agreed to full disclosure standard when asked pre-nomination. Ines pre-committed to composition+discard before reveal. Already said publicly: Rosa pledge endorsement, Ja rationale, ask to Lena. No open questions unanswered. 0 F policies, no suspects. Watch: Ines discloses as pledged? Lena's discard behavior if vote passes.
speak round 241s
Boris finally confirmed he passed Rosa 1F/1L, matching her late disclosure -- the hand discrepancy is resolved, though the post-reveal timing still bugs me mildly. No Fascist enacted yet; Lena-Ines government has pledged the standard. Nothing to accuse anyone of yet; a short supportive remark plus a conditional commitment is right.
R1: Boris pres, Rosa chanc -> Liberal enacted (1L/0F). Rosa disclosed 1F/1L hand only after two presses; Boris later confirmed same composition -- discrepancy RESOLVED, but pattern of post-reveal disclosure noted. R2: Lena pres, nom Ines; both pledged full pre-reveal disclosure. Otto said: acknowledged Boris's confirmation, conditional Ja for Ines. No suspects yet; watch whether Ines actually discloses pre-reveal.
bid round 27s
R1: Hitler (me). Voted Ja Boris/Rosa. Rosa's disclosure (F+L, discarded F) clean, matches Liberal outcome -- accept. Otto pressed same point. R2: Lena pres, Ines chanc. Ines pledged full pre-reveal disclosure; nothing new to add. Stay quiet unless asked directly. If nominated chancellor later, vote Ja -- early credibility matters for my win path (need 3F enacted first). Don't over-defend fascists.
vote round 211s
I publicly committed to a conditional Ja for Ines if she pledged pre-reveal full disclosure, which she did. No suspicious evidence yet; Round 1 enacted Liberal and Boris confirmed Rosa's hand. Nein would be unjustified and risks tracker escalation.
R1: Boris pres, Rosa chanc -> 1L/0F. Rosa disclosed 1F/1L only after presses; Boris later confirmed same composition -- resolved, but note her disclosure-timing pattern for future noms. R2: Lena nom Ines; both pledged full pre-reveal disclosure. Otto said: acknowledged Boris confirmation, conditional Ja to Ines (already made, don't repeat). Voted Ja R2. Watch: does Ines disclose pre-reveal? If not, flag hard. No suspects yet. Open questions: none outstanding.
bid round 29s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R1 Boris-Rosa -> Liberal; Rosa disclosed F+L hand only after Otto pressed (late disclosure, I flagged publicly). R2: Lena nominated me; I pledged pre-reveal 3-card disclosure; Otto signaled Ja. Said publicly: accept nomination+pledge, Rosa late-disclosure concern, closing pitch. If elected: disclose plausible hand BEFORE reveal (e.g., L+F+F, discard F, enact L early for cover unless good F window). Watch path to elect Greta once 3F up. Don't repeat pledge point again this window.
speak round 216s
Fascist policy enacted under Lena/Ines who both pledged pre-reveal full composition. Rosa and Boris already demanded it; I should add a distinct angle: point out that Ines's pledge was conditional on MY Ja and she broke it immediately -- or ask a question nobody asked: which card did Ines discard, since the discard matters for tracking deck counts (4 in discard already). Keep short.
R1: Boris/Rosa -> 1L, Rosa disclosed late but Boris confirmed 1F/1L -- closed. R2: Lena pres, Ines chanc -> F enacted; both pledged pre-reveal, broke it. Rosa+Boris already demanded disclosure (don't repeat). My angle added: broken-pledge pattern + demand matching stories from both. Watch: mismatch between Lena's draw claim and Ines's hand claim = hard suspect pair. No other suspects yet. Points made: R1 Boris confirm ack; conditional Ja to Ines; broken-pledge call.
bid round 220s
R1 truth: Boris passed me F+L; I discarded F, enacted L. Vote 7-0. R2: Lena-Ines govt enacted FASCIST. Both owe full disclosure: what Lena drew, what she discarded, what Ines received, what Ines discarded. One of them is lying or drew 3 Fas (unlikely with 11/4 pile). Points already on record: my accountability pledge (Fas under me = evidence against me), full composition commitment. Suspects: Lena or Ines first. Watch: who defends them without specifics.
bid round 211s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, I disclosed F,F pre-reveal, enacted F. Cover: Lena passed two Fs to me, I had to enact one -- pin on her draw. Restated hand to Rosa/Boris/Otto this window. Points made: pledge, disclosure, restatement. DON'T repeat again. Watch who keeps pressing me vs Lena -- Otto pressing me hard, note him. Next: aim Greta chancellorship at 3F+, push F quietly, occasionally pass Lib for cover.
bid round 27s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, enacted F. Cover story locked & corroborated: Lena drew F,L,F, passed me two Fs, forced enact. Nadia's question answered. Otto pressing hard both rounds w/o evidence -- deflecting onto him now; Nadia also pressing. Rosa/Boris satisfied by Boris R1 confirmation. Points made: pledge, disclosure, corroboration -- don't repeat. Next: aim Greta chancellorship at 3F+, push F quietly, occasionally pass Lib for cover.
bid round 28s
R1: Boris+Rosa clean (Lib). R2: Lena claims F,L,F -> disc L -> passed 2F to Ines; forced enact. Stories match (Greta corroborated), unverifiable. I voted Ja R2, pressed on hand split, dropped it publicly after corroboration. Ines pushed back on Otto/me. Watch: Lena's R3 behavior/nomination; disclosure pledges standard for all. No open questions owed to me.
speak round 217s
Greta vouched for a hand only Lena and Ines could know, unprompted. That's a new point nobody else has pressed hard (Rosa asked once). I'll call it out directly and ask her why she felt confident. Keep it short.
R1: Boris/Rosa -> 1L. R2: Lena pres, Ines chanc -> F enacted. Lena claims F,L,F, discarded L, passed 2F; Ines matches; Greta corroborated unprompted. No contradiction. Points made out loud: Boris ack; conditional Ja on Ines; broken-pledge call; matching-stories demand; Rosa's discard-F pledge (Lena accepted). This window: pressed Greta on why she vouched for an unverifiable hand. Watchlist: Lena, Ines (R2 F gov), Greta (corroboration). Next: whoever holds power next, demand pre-reveal discard-F pledge before they act.
bid round 27s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; her claim matched, Otto confirmed -- clean govt. R2: Lena Pres + Ines Chan, Fascist enacted. Both claim Lena drew F,F,L, discarded L, passed F+F -- mutually consistent, unverifiable, conveniently exculpatory. Greta corroborated; Nadia dropped it. Can't convict on matching stories -- coordinated fascists would produce exactly this. Points already made: pledge-demand, pre-vote pledges, R1 clean. NEW angle: hold them forward-looking -- demand Lena's next nomination and both their vote intentions BEFORE the vote. Also ask Ines directly: if she drew F,F as Chancellor, would she have vetoed/flagged? Watch R3 behavior. Suspects: Lena+Ines moderate; Otto/Nadia/Greta unremarkable so far.
bid round 220s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean (Lib). R2 Lena claims F,L,F -> disc L -> passed 2F to Ines; forced enact; stories match, Greta corroborated but unverifiable. I voted Ja R2. Otto now attacking Greta's early vouch as possible 3rd-Fascist smoothing. My asks out loud this window: (1) Greta -- what concrete basis did your clean-bill vouch have? (2) all future Pres/Chanc pairs pre-commit to discard-disclosure rule. Watch Lena's R3 nomination for self-serving pick. No unanswered questions owed to me yet.
bid failed: transport_error
bid round 269s
R1: Boris/Rosa -> 1L. R2: Lena/Ines -> F. Both claim F,L,F, Lena disc L, pass 2F; stories match, unfalsifiable. Greta clarified: noted match, called it unfalsifiable, not a vouch -- accepted, drop her from watchlist top. Points made: Boris ack; conditional Ja on Ines; broken-pledge call; matching-stories demand; Rosa discard-F pledge; pressed Greta. Watchlist: Lena, Ines (R2 F gov). Open: none unanswered. Next: get Lena's pre-act pledge -- if she draws peek power next round, name target in advance and reveal result publicly; also ask Ines same for chancellor discard.
bid round 212s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 me Pres+Ines Ch: public story F,F,L drew, discarded L, passed F,F (matches Ines). Pledged split-hand Fascist-discard rule on record. R1 Boris+Rosa Liberal enact. Otto attacked Greta for 'vouching'; I defended her t=2, Greta clarified herself. Ines accepted Rosa's split-hand pledge. Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Nadia, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta out of chancellor until 3F enacted. If F/F/L story relitigated: point to Nadia dropping it rather than repeat hand verbatim. Deflection target: Otto. Already said: defense of Greta re vouching (t=2) -- don't repeat. This window: pushed deflection at Otto re Greta attack + asked Nadia why she dropped R2 hand question.
bid round 310s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claim F,F,L drawn, L discarded -- consistent, unverifiable. Points made out loud: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, asked Lena next pick NOW, asked Ines one-of-each hypothetical, endorsed Ines pledge, pressed Lena for next Chancellor name + no-repeat commitment. Owed answers: Lena (next pick). If Lena/Ines produce 2nd Fascist policy together -> both near-certain fascists, say so then. Suspects: Lena+Ines moderate-high after F policy; Otto unremarkable; watch Otto's pivot target. NEW: Rosa is Pres R3; asking her now for named Chancellor + no-Lena/Ines-repeat commitment before votes.
bid round 350s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa -> Lib. R2 Lena/Ines -> F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F; Ines confirms. Otto+Nadia pressed, Nadia dropped it. Rosa's discard-F pledge accepted by Lena on record. Otto challenged my 'vouch' -- answered: I flagged matched-story risk myself, not a clean bill. Already said: consistency note + unfalsifiable caveat + that answer -- don't repeat. Rosa nominating Nadia w/ pledge. Suspects: none solid; watch Lena next gov (Nadia watching too). Plan: stay liberal-seeming, seek chancellorship once 3F enacted.
bid round 348s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa -> Lib. R2 Lena/Ines -> F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F; Ines confirms. Otto+Nadia pressed, Nadia dropped it. Rosa's discard-F pledge accepted by Lena on record. Otto challenged my 'vouch' -- answered: I flagged matched-story risk myself, not a clean bill. Already said: consistency note + unfalsifiable caveat + that answer -- don't repeat. Rosa nominating Nadia w/ pledge. Suspects: none solid; watch Lena next gov (Nadia watching too). Plan: stay liberal-seeming, seek chancellorship once 3F enacted. Nothing new this window -- silent.
bid round 317s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claim F,F,L drawn, L discarded -- consistent, unverifiable. Points made out loud: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, Ines one-of-each hypothetical, endorsed pledge, pressed Lena for next pick + no-repeat commitment, asked Rosa to commit: no Lena/Ines in R3 govt + Nadia must accept pre-reveal pledge. Owed answers: Lena (next pick), Rosa (commitment). If Lena/Ines produce 2nd Fascist policy together -> both near-certain fascists. Suspects: Lena+Ines moderate-high; Otto unremarkable; watch Otto's pivot target.
bid round 313s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 me Pres+Ines Ch: public story F,F,L drew, discarded L, passed F,F (matches Ines). Pledged split-hand Fascist-discard rule on record. R1 Boris+Rosa Liberal enact. Otto attacked Greta re vouching; I defended her t=2, Greta clarified. Rosa nominating Nadia, pledge on record. Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Nadia, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta out of chancellor until 3F. Deflection target: Otto. Just answered Nadia's split question: hand was F,F,L, no split possible, discarded the L. Points already made: Greta defense, Otto deflection, asked Nadia why she dropped R2 hand question (no answer).
bid round 312s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 locked story: F,F,L drew; discarded L; passed F,F -- matches Ines's account; do NOT restate verbatim. Split-refusal answered: 'request surfaced 2 rounds late = post-reveal reconstruction.' Boris t=3 framed me vs Ines as contradiction -- rebutted with timing argument; now QUIET on split topic. Nadia pressed 3x, answered w/ one-of-each discard pledge. This turn: endorsed Nadia's pledge + Ja, deflected to Otto. Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Nadia, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta out of chancellery until 3F enacted. Deflection target: Otto. Open Qs: none owed to me.
speak round 316s
Rosa asked me directly to pick a side in the Lena/Ines contradiction. I'll answer: Ines is my pick -- her 'I asked for a split' claim first appeared in Round 3 under pressure, exactly the post-reveal reconstruction she pledged against, while Lena's account has been consistent since the enact. I'll also note Rosa still owes me an answer on why she pressed Greta so hard without ever answering my original question about her own behavior.
R1: Boris/Rosa -> 1L. R2: Lena/Ines -> F; both claim F,L,F, matching but unfalsifiable. R3 contradiction: Ines claims she asked Lena for a split (surfaced R3 under pressure); Lena denies it ever happened. MY CALL NOW PUBLIC: Ines is lying -- late reconstruction. Points already made: Boris ack; conditional Ja on Ines; matching-stories demand; discard-F pledge support; pressed Greta twice on vouching; called Nadia for fixating on Lena only. Open: Greta owes basis for blessing hand pre-accusation; Rosa owes me answer re her Greta defense; Nadia owes veto-pledge answer if she draws 2F + does she trust Ines later. Watchlist: Ines (top), Lena. Leaning Ja on Rosa/Nadia unless Nadia's enact betrays pledge.
speak round 316s
I've already publicly called Ines the liar in the split-request contradiction. Nothing new to litigate there. Best use of this turn: put a concrete commitment on Nadia before the vote -- specifically, that she states her full three-card draw and discard pre-reveal, not just the one-of-each pledge, since the pledge only covers a subset of hands. Also keep Greta's unanswered question alive without repeating it verbatim.
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; both claim F,F,L matching but unfalsifiable. R3: Ines claims split-request (surfaced late under pressure), Lena denies; MY PUBLIC CALL: Ines lying. Made out loud: pressed Rosa on hand R1; Boris confirmed 1F/1L pass; conditional Ja on Ines; pressed Greta twice re vouching (unanswered); called Nadia for fixating on Lena; named Ines the liar. Open debts: Greta owes basis for blessing hand; Rosa owes me why she defended Greta early; Nadia owes full-composition pre-reveal commit (just asked). Watchlist: Ines top, Lena second. Leaning Ja Rosa/Nadia unless enact betrays pledge.
speak round 320s
I've made my calls on Ines/Lena and pressed Nadia for the full pledge. New useful content: state my vote stance explicitly so it's on record before the reveal, tying it to Nadia's pre-reveal disclosure. Greta's debt stays open but repeating it verbatim adds nothing; a one-line reminder folded into my vote statement is acceptable without restating.
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; both claim F,F,L matching, unfalsifiable. R3: Ines claims split-request late under pressure, Lena denies; MY CALL OUT LOUD: Ines lying. Made out loud: pressed Rosa R1 hand (Boris confirmed 1F/1L); called Greta re vouching (unanswered); named Ines liar; demanded Nadia full-composition pre-reveal commit; stated Ja on Rosa/Nadia contingent on pre-reveal disclosure. Open debts: Greta owes basis for blessing hand; Rosa owes why she defended Greta early; Nadia owes full-composition commit + card-position style answers. Watchlist: Ines top, Lena second (refused split per Ines claim). Leaning Ja unless Nadia reconstructs post-reveal.
bid round 36s
R1 truth: Boris(P)-me(C), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L (disclosed late). R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L; Lena discarded L. Presidents choose discard -- 'deck decided' false. Ines claims pre-pass split request; Lena says never happened -> direct contradiction, one lying. Suspects: Lena > Ines > Greta. Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. Open Qs owed me: Lena (card order + president-choice contradiction, asked THREE times now); Greta (why vouch unprompted, twice). Nadia pledge t=1: as C with one of each, discard F + state before reveal. My pledge as P: if 2F+1L, discard an F and state before reveal. Points already public: corroboration proves nothing; broken pledges=evidence; presidents choose discard. Ines t=1-2 deflecting to Nadia's enact -- noted, doesn't clear her contradiction with Lena. Next: hold Nadia to pledge if elected; keep pressing Lena pre-vote.
bid round 36s
R1: Boris/Rosa -> 1L. R2: Lena/Ines -> F; both claim F,L,F, matching but unfalsifiable. Rosa asked me: who lies re split-request contradiction? My public answer: can't prove either, but Ines is quieter and sat in the F-enacting gov -- pressing Ines now to state plainly whether she asked Lena to discard a Fascist. Points already made: Boris ack; conditional Ja on Ines; matching-stories demand; Rosa discard-F pledge; pressed Greta twice; called Nadia for fixating on Lena only. Open: Nadia owes me veto-pledge answer for 2F hand + does she trust Ines later; Greta owes basis for blessing hand pre-accusation; Lena owes Nadia's split question. Watchlist: Lena, Ines. Leaning Ja on Rosa/Nadia unless enact betrays.
vote round 312s
I already committed publicly to a Ja on Rosa-Nadia contingent on Nadia's pre-reveal full disclosure. Nadia accepted the pledge on record unprompted, Rosa has pledged her own disclosure, and neither has a Fascist policy on their record. Tracker is 0/3 so a Nein costs nothing yet, but there's no concrete reason to distrust this government -- my suspicion sits with Ines (late split-request story) and Lena (forced enact). Vote Ja.
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L (Boris confirmed 1F/1L pass). R2 Lena/Ines->F; both claim F,F,L matching; Lena admits forcing Ines with two F's. R3: Ines claims split-request late under pressure; Lena denies it ever happened; MY CALL OUT LOUD: Ines lying. Also said out loud: pressed Greta re vouching; named Ines liar; demanded Nadia full-composition pre-reveal commit; committed Ja on Rosa/Nadia contingent on pre-reveal disclosure. Open debts: Greta owes basis for blessing hand; Rosa owes why she defended Greta early; Nadia owes full-composition commit + position-style answers. Watchlist: Ines top, Lena second. Voted Ja R3.
bid round 38s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean (Lib). R2: Lena claims F,L,F disc L passed 2F; Ines says she ASKED for split pre-pass, Lena denies -> direct contradiction; both top suspects. Lena dodging Rosa's card-position question 3x. Ines deflecting to 'judge Nadia's enact' instead of resolving R2. Otto demanded full 3-card composition + discard stated PRE-reveal from me as nominee -> I accepted/extended pledge this window: whatever I draw, full composition + discard before reveal. Already said publicly: R2 contradiction point, original one-of-each pledge. If elected under Rosa: honor full pledge.
bid round 310s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F (Lib 3rd pos); Ines confirms + claims she asked Lena for split; Lena denies -> live contradiction, Otto+Boris say Ines lying. Rosa keeps re-asking me why I vouched (answered 2x, won't repeat). R3 gov Rosa/Nadia: Nadia pledged full pre-reveal comp, I endorsed, voted Ja; she delivered Liberal as pledged -- pledge kept. Suspects: none solid; Lena/Ines contradiction unresolved. Plan: liberal-seeming, seek chancellorship once 3F enacted. Points already made: matched-stories-not-evidence; Nadia pledge endorsement.
bid round 321s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover story F,F/L/F forced. LIE on record: split-request claim vs Lena's denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar/top suspect. Strategy: hold story, no repeats, distance from Lena. Points made (don't repeat): pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, Greta defense, discard pledge, matched-stories weak, deflected Rosa's Greta-vouch Q, split-request claim, Lena-benefits rebuttal, drop-it pivot, voting Ja t=2. OPEN: Rosa owes answer re early Greta vouch-adjacency (unanswered). NOW: Rosa disclosed R3 hand (F,F/L passed), Nadia enact consistent; Rosa pressing Greta on vouch rationale + asking Nadia next-nomination. Otto pushing pre-reveal composition pledge. I stay silent; vote Ja on Rosa-Nadia. Goals: pledge credibility, Greta chancellorship at 3F+, occasional Lib enact for cover. Watch Otto/Nadia scrutiny of me.
speak round 315s
Greta directly asked whether I'd take a Chancellor nomination next round. I should answer directly and confidently -- yes -- since dodging would look bad and I have nothing to hide as a liberal. I can also add one new point: the only Fascist policy so far came from Lena's government, and Lena's late answer on card position plus refusing Ines's split keeps her my #2 suspect behind Ines.
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; both claim F,F,L; Lena admits forcing Ines with two F's. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L, both disclosed pre-reveal, clean. MY CALLS OUT LOUD: Ines lying re split-request contradiction (Lena consistent, Ines's story surfaced 2 rounds late); pressed Greta on vouch rationale (she denies vouching, claims neutral note); committed Ja contingent on disclosure; NOW answered Greta: yes, will take Chancellor nom next round w/ full pre-reveal disclosure pledge. Open debts: Rosa owes why she defended Greta early (Ines also asked). Watchlist: Ines top, Lena second (forced F enact + late card-position answer). Greta's 'Otto sat out every gov' = weak, rotation/term limits. Next Fascist policy unlocks peek -- pushed pre-announcement of check target.
bid round 338s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claimed F,F,L, L discarded. CONTRADICTION: Ines claims pre-pass split request to Lena (R3); Lena denies it. One lying -> both top suspects. Otto sides with Lena vs Ines; Greta flagged Otto never in govt + first to call Ines liar. R3 Rosa/Nadia enacted Liberal -> both look clean for now. Voted Ja on Rosa/Nadia as pledged. Already said publicly: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, discard-pledge endorsement, called Ines's story retroactive reconstruction, pledged Ja to Nadia, flagged contradiction. Watch: if Lena+Ines produce another Fascist together -> near-certain fascists. Next F policy unlocks peek power -> demand named check.
bid round 312s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean (Lib). R2: Lena claims F,F,L disc L passed 2F; Ines says she ASKED for split pre-pass, Lena denies -> direct contradiction, both top suspects. Lena dodged card-position Q 3x then said Lib was 3rd position. R3: I received F,L from Rosa, discarded F, enacted L per pledge; Rosa's published draw consistent with what she passed me -- Rosa looks clean. Greta now pressing Otto on sitting out all governments + first to call Ines liar; I echoed it. Next F policy unlocks membership peek -- holder must pre-state who they checked. Open: Otto owes yes/no on taking nomination; Greta still owes Rosa vouch rationale; Lena owes forced-enact answer.
bid round 37s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean (Lib). R2: Lena claims F,F,L disc L passed 2F; Ines says she ASKED for split pre-pass, Lena denies -> direct contradiction. Lena dodged card-position Q 3x then said Lib 3rd position -> that pattern is why I side with Ines. R3: I got F,L from Rosa, discarded F, enacted L per pledge; Rosa clean. Greta pressing Otto on zero governments + first to call Ines liar; Otto now says nominate him + pre-reveal draw -- accept conditionally, watch consistency. Next F policy unlocks peek; holder must pre-state target. Open: Greta owes Rosa vouch rationale; Lena still owes forced-enact answer.
bid round 343s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena claims F,F,L disc L passed 2F; Ines says asked pre-pass for split, Lena denies -> contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x then said Lib 3rd. I publicly sided with Ines (t=57 R3) -- DONE, don't repeat. R3: I drew F,L from Rosa, discarded F per pledge; Rosa disclosed F,F,L pre-reveal, clean. Suspects: Lena top (forced enact + dodge pattern); Ines/Lena contradiction unresolved. Greta: 4x dodged Rosa's vouch Q, zero governments -- asked her yes/no on accepting nom + full pre-reveal pledge (t=72), NO ANSWER YET, she owes me. Otto: pledged nom + full pre-reveal draw disclosure. Told Rosa: if President next, I nominate Otto. Next Fascist policy unlocks membership peek; consensus holder must pre-state target pre-reveal.
speak round 337s
Lena's only defense for the forced Fascist pass is that Ines never asked -- but that's irrelevant: a liberal President holding F,F,L should discard a Fascist and give her Chancellor a choice regardless of any request. The refusal itself is the checkable tell. Press that directly; it's a new angle, not a repeat.
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admits F,F/L pass, forced Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L, clean, Nadia cleared. MY CALLS: Ines lying re split-request (t=83); Greta vouch question (answered, denies vouching); pledged Chancellor nom w/ full pre-reveal disclosure; accepted Nadia's intent to nominate me next; pushed pre-announce of peek target. NEW THIS TURN: told Lena the no-request defense is irrelevant -- liberal President discards F from F,F,L regardless. OPEN DEBTS: Rosa never answered why she defended Greta early (Ines asked too, unanswered). Watchlist: Lena top (forced F pass, late card-position answer), Ines second. Greta accepted full pledge for future nom. Next Fascist policy unlocks peek -- whoever holds it should announce target pre-use.
bid round 36s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 locked story: F,F,L, Lib 3rd pos, discarded Lib, passed F,F; matches Ines; do not reopen. R3: Rosa-Nadia enacted Liberal -- publicly call it clean, builds trust in both. Greta t=1-3: pushing full pre-reveal draw pledges + peek disclosure standard -- theater, no need to fight it, but don't over-endorse either. Otto pledged same earlier. If I'm Pres next: nominate Otto or Boris, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta out of chancellery until 3F on board. Watch who pushes hardest against Rosa/Nadia now -- that's liberal-side signal. Open Qs owed me: none.
bid round 37s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story locked (F,F,L, Lib 3rd, discarded Lib, passed F,F) -- do NOT reopen. R3 Rosa-Nadia = clean Liberal enact, publicly endorsed. Nadia t=64: believes Ines over me on split dispute -- hostile-leaning, watch her. Greta pushing pre-reveal draw pledges + peek-disclosure standard (theater); Otto pledged same. If Pres next: nominate Otto or Boris, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta out of chancellery until 3F. Next F policy unlocks membership peek -- holder should claim liberal result if possible. Open Qs owed me: none. Points already made: answered card-position Q (t=108), defended Greta re vouch (t=114), called Rosa-Nadia clean.
bid round 48s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena claims F,F,L, passed 2F (forced enact); Ines says asked pre-pass for split, Lena denies -> live contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x then said Lib 3rd. I publicly sided with Ines (t=57 R3) -- done, don't repeat. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L pre-reveal, passed me F,L; I discarded F per pledge, Liberal enacted, cleared. Suspects: Lena top (forced enact + dodge pattern). Greta: accepted nom + full pre-reveal draw pledge (t=82). Otto: pledged nom + full pre-reveal disclosure (t=51). COMMITMENTS: if President next, nominate Otto (Rosa holding me to it); peek-power holder must pre-state target pre-reveal. Next Fascist policy unlocks membership peek. ANSWERED Ines: Lena nominable only under full pledge.
bid round 48s
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L, FORCED Ines -> liberal Pres discards F; Lena top suspect on pass choice alone. Nadia sided w/ Ines; Otto backs Lena unprompted (Greta flagged eagerness). R3 Rosa/Nadia Liberal clean, Rosa disclosed F,F/L pre-reveal. Already said: Ines story retroactive; Lena/Ines contradiction; Nadia pick-side (answered); pledged Ja to Nadia; endorsed Nadia-for-Pres + Otto nominee; checkable point re Lena's forced pass. NEW t=1-3: Ines nominating Otto + pressing Rosa on old Greta Q -- pressure on others while SHE presided over R2's F policy. Said: don't let Ines redirect; R2 gov't still owes account. Watch: next F unlocks peek -> demand named target+result pre-use. If Lena in govt again and F lands -> near-certain fascist.
bid round 443s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; disclosed POST-enact. Nadia enacted L => clean-ish. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L; LIVE: Ines claims pre-pass split request, Lena denies -> one lying; Boris+Otto+Nadia believe Ines. Suspects: Ines > Greta > Lena(lower). Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. R4: Ines(P) nominating Otto(C); answered her Greta Q (R2: weak-not-damning). OPEN: Ines owes YES/NO on President discard-pledge + full composition pre-reveal (asked twice; now framed as vote condition -- third ask, do NOT repeat again after this). Lena still owes: would she pass F+F again yes/no. Points already public: corroboration proves nothing; presidents choose which two to pass; matched stories=possible coordination; endorse Otto standard; my Ja votes; my R3 disclosure published; Greta answer given.
speak round 413s
Rosa asked me directly at t=17 whether I'd enact two Fascists from an unpledged President. Answer clearly: no -- I'd state the composition pre-reveal and demand Ines's disclosure before enacting anything. This is my pledge already on record; reaffirm the specific case.
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admits F,F/L forced pass. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean, Nadia cleared. MY CALLS: Ines lying re split-request (t=83); pledged Chancellor nom w/ full pre-reveal disclosure; pushed pre-announce of peek target; told Lena no-request defense irrelevant. NOW: nominated Chancellor by Ines (R4); answered Rosa t=17: won't enact 2F from unpledged President, will disclose composition pre-reveal first. OPEN DEBTS: Ines still hasn't taken President discard-pledge despite Rosa/Boris pressing 3x -- her silence itself is signal. Watchlist: Lena top (forced F pass R2), Ines second (split-request lie + pledge dodge). Next F policy unlocks peek -- holder must announce target pre-use.
bid round 417s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admits F,F/L pass, forced Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean, Nadia cleared. MY CALLS: Ines lying re split-request (t=83); Greta vouch question answered (denies); pledged Chancellor nom w/ full pre-reveal disclosure; pushed pre-announce of peek target. Told Lena no-request defense irrelevant. NOW: nominated as Chancellor by Ines; publicly accepted, pledged: if passed 2F I discard one F and enact L, full composition disclosure before enacting. Supporting Rosa's demand that Ines pledge same as President. OPEN DEBTS: Rosa never answered why she defended Greta early (Ines asked 3x). Watchlist: Lena top (forced F pass), Ines second. Next F policy unlocks peek -- holder should announce target pre-use.
speak round 48s
Ines has now pledged full composition pre-reveal and Fascist discard; my pledge debt is closed. I've already answered Rosa's question (t=25) and stated my Ja. Nothing new to add -- passing this turn keeps the vote clean.
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admitted F,F/L forced pass. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean, Nadia cleared. MY CALLS: Ines lying re split-request (t=83); pledged Chancellor nom w/ full pre-reveal disclosure; pushed pre-announce of peek target. R4: nominated Chancellor by Ines; answered Rosa t=17 (won't enact 2F from unpledged President); Ines pledged full composition pre-reveal + discard any F (t=29) -- pledge debt closed, Ja stands. Still owed: Ines must actually disclose when cards come. Watchlist: Lena top (forced F pass R2), Ines second (split-request lie). Next F policy unlocks peek -- holder must announce target pre-use. Points on record: composition pre-reveal demand, no-request defense irrelevant to Lena, my conditional answer t=25. Don't repeat; vote Ja.
bid round 48s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L; Ines split-request claim vs Lena denial = live contradiction; Otto+Boris anti-Ines, Nadia believes Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F. R4: Ines pres, nom Otto w/ pre-reveal disclosure pledge; Rosa demanding Ines pledge discard-any-F + composition reveal (t1-2), and Otto yes/no on enacting unpledged F pair (t3); Ines silent so far. Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence, not-a-vouch x3, endorsed Nadia pledge, probed Otto never-in-govt, peek-disclosure standard, endorsed Nadia->Otto, my own Chancellor pledge under full draw disclosure, Boris F,F,L logic sound but one forced pass isn't conviction. Plan: stay liberal-seeming, accept noms under pledge; win path = elected Chancellor once 3F enacted. Watch: Ines's answer to Rosa's pledge demand, Otto's t3 answer, Lena/Ines contradiction resolution, who holds peek after next F policy.
vote round 424s
I'm the Chancellor nominee. Ines took the full pre-reveal pledge (t=29), Rosa and Boris are satisfied, tracker at 0/3 so Nein is costly. Ja.
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admitted F,F/L forced pass (top suspect). R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean, Nadia cleared. MY CALLS: Ines lying re split-request (t=83); pledged full pre-reveal Chancellor disclosure; pushed pre-announce of peek target. R4: nominated Chancellor by Ines; answered Rosa t=25 (won't enact 2F from unpledged President); Ines pledged full composition pre-reveal + discard any F (t=29). VOTED Ja on own government. Next: when Ines passes, verify her disclosure comes BEFORE reveal; state my full draw+discard pre-reveal as pledged. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd (split-request lie). Next F policy unlocks peek -- holder must announce target pre-use. Points on record: composition pre-reveal demand, no-request defense irrelevant to Lena, conditional answer t=25. Don't repeat.
chancellor_enact round 412s
hand: ['F', 'L'] → enact_1
I'm a liberal Chancellor holding F,L. Per my own pledge on record, I state my full composition pre-reveal: one Fascist, one Liberal; I discard the Fascist and enact the Liberal. This also matches my t=25 commitment. Enacting the Liberal is both honest and correct for the team.
said: My disclosure, as pledged, before any reveal: Ines passed me one Fascist and one Liberal -- consistent with her pledge to discard any Fascist from her three. I am discarding the Fascist and enacting the Liberal. Full composition stated pre-reveal, exactly the standard this table set.
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admitted F,F/L forced pass (top suspect). R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean. MY CALLS: Ines lying re split-request (t=83); pledged full pre-reveal Chancellor disclosure; pushed pre-announce of peek target. R4: elected Chancellor under Ines; disclosed hand F,L pre-reveal, discarded F, enacted L (2L/1F now). Ines's disclosure matched her pledge -- she's partially cleared but split-request lie still stands. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd. Next F policy unlocks peek -- holder must announce target pre-use. Points already made: composition pre-reveal demand, no-request defense irrelevant to Lena, conditional answer t=25. Don't repeat.
bid round 47s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena claims F,F,L, passed 2F (forced); Ines says asked pre-pass for split, Lena denies -> contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x then said Lib 3rd. I publicly sided with Ines. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L pre-reveal, passed me F,L; I discarded F, Liberal enacted, cleared. Suspects: Lena top. Greta pledged, Otto pledged. COMMITMENTS: if President, nominate Otto; peek-power holder must pre-state target pre-reveal; answered Ines: Lena nominable only under full pledge. NOW: Ines pres + Otto nom pending; both have restated pledges (Otto t=1, Ines t=2) -- covered, nothing new to add.
bid round 411s
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L; liberal Pres discards F -> Lena top suspect. Nadia believes Ines; Otto backed Lena unprompted. R3 Rosa/Nadia Liberal clean. R4: Ines(Pres)+Otto(Chanc); both pledges on record (Ines full comp+discard F post-pass; Otto pre-reveal disclosure). Said already: Ines pledge retroactive; endorsed Otto; demanded Ines pledge. Plan: vote Ja. Watch: next F unlocks peek -> demand named target+result pre-use. If F lands from Ines/Otto govt, both suspect; Otto's early Lena defense becomes relevant.
speak round 412s
My enact cleared me; Ines's disclosure matched but her split-request lie stands. Greta just committed to nominating Nadia and staying out of Chancellor seat. New point worth adding: bind Greta's government to the peek pre-announce standard since next Fascist policy unlocks it under her presidency.
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admitted F,F/L forced pass (top suspect). R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean. MY CALLS: Ines lying re split-request (t=83); pledged full pre-reveal Chancellor disclosure; pushed peek pre-announce. R4: my Chancellorship, disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F, enacted L (3L/1F). Ines partially cleared by matching disclosure but split-request lie stands. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd. Just asked Greta (President-elect): commit to naming peek target+result pre-reveal if next Fascist policy hits under her gov. Points already made: composition pre-reveal demand, no-request defense irrelevant to Lena, conditional answer t=25, refuse-to-sit-with-Lena statement. Don't repeat.
bid round 436s
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L -> top suspect. Otto backed Lena unprompted R2 -- note. R3 Rosa/Nadia Liberal clean. R4 Ines/Otto Liberal enacted; both pledges on record (Ines full comp+discard F post-pass; Otto pre-reveal disclosure). Said already: Ines pledge retroactive; endorsed Otto; demanded Ines pledge. Vote Ja. Next F unlocks peek: demand named target+result pre-use. If future F from Ines/Otto govt, both suspect.
bid round 413s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L(pos3); Ines split-request claim vs Lena denial = live contradiction; Otto+Boris anti-Ines, Nadia believes Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F. R4 Ines/Otto->Lib, both pledged pre-reveal composition+discard any F; Otto honored? watch. Voted Ja R4. Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence x3, endorsed Nadia pledge, probed Otto never-in-govt, peek-disclosure standard, endorsed Nadia->Otto, my Chancellor pledge under full draw disclosure, Boris F,F,L logic sound but forced pass isn't conviction. NOW: answered Ines -- confirmed full pre-reveal draw pledge, named Nadia as my nominee, agreed to stay out of Chancellor seat for now. Plan: stay liberal-seeming, accept noms under pledge; win path = elected Chancellor once 3F enacted (currently 1F). Watch: Lena/Ines contradiction resolution, who holds peek after next F policy.
speak round 419s
Boris and Lena asked me the identical question in the same breath about my Round 3 call on Ines. I already explained it was timing-based; Nadia publicly endorsed that reasoning. Rather than re-answer, I should point out the coordination itself and flip it: Lena pressing me is notable because she's my top suspect (forced F,F,L pass in R2), and Boris aligning with her without independent evidence is a new data point. Ask Boris directly whether he believes Lena's account of R2 and why.
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admitted F,F/L forced pass (TOP suspect). R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L clean; disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. My calls on record: Ines lying re split-request (timing-based); full pre-reveal disclosure pledge; conditional t=25 answer; refuse-to-sit-with-Lena stance implied. NEW: Boris+Lena asked identical Otto question same breath -- flagged coordination, asked Boris his own read on split-request + Lena's F,F,L pass. AWAITING: Boris answer; Greta owes Rosa answers (Lena/Ines dispute, would she refuse Lena gov) + owes me peek pre-announce commitment as next President; Greta pledged nominate Nadia, stay out of Chancellor seat. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd (split-request lie stands despite clean R4). Peek power unlocks on next F policy.
bid round 410s
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L -> top suspect. Otto backed Lena unprompted R2 -- note. R3 Rosa/Nadia Liberal clean. R4 Ines/Otto Liberal enacted; pledges on record. Said already: Ines pledge retroactive; endorsed Otto; demanded Ines pledge. Just said: on record refusing Lena as Chancellor (R2); expect Greta to name nominee + confirm pledge before presidency. Vote Ja. Next F unlocks peek: demand named target+result pre-use. If future F from Ines/Otto govt, both suspect.
bid round 482s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L(pos3); Ines split-request claim vs Lena denial = live contradiction; Otto+Boris anti-Ines, Nadia believes Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F. R4 Ines/Otto->Lib; both pledged pre-reveal composition+discard; Otto honored? watch. Voted Ja R4. Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence x3, endorsed Nadia pledge, probed Otto never-in-govt, peek-disclosure standard, endorsed Nadia->Otto, my full-draw pledge accepted, Boris F,F,L logic sound but forced pass isn't conviction, confirmed pledge + named Nadia nominee + staying out of Chancellor seat, answered Rosa: leaning Ines (more specific), won't blanket-refuse Lena govts, judge by disclosure consistency. NOW: Boris/Lena pressing Otto on why he called Ines liar pre-evidence; Nadia defending Otto + flagging Boris/Lena sync. Nothing new for me to add -- silent. Plan: liberal-seeming; win path = elected Chancellor once 3F enacted (currently 1F). Watch: who holds peek after next F policy.
bid round 487s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena F,F,L forced 2F pass; Ines/Lena split-request contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L pre-reveal, passed me F,L; I discarded F, cleared. R4: Ines+Otto Lib enacted, pledges kept, cleared. Suspects: Lena top (R2 forced F pass + dodges), Ines secondary. Boris now publicly agrees Lena top/Ines secondary -- aligned. Already said publicly: Boris+Lena identical simultaneous Q at Otto; my siding with Ines on split-request. COMMITMENTS: if President nominate Otto; peek holder must pre-state target+result; Lena nominable only under full pledge. Greta nominating me Chancellor next round -- no objection stated. Owed to me: Lena still owes direct answer on why she kept the F in R2.
bid round 495s
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L -> TOP SUSPECT (forced pass, checkable); Rosa now publicly agrees only free discard was Lena's -- convergence good. Otto defended Lena unprompted R3, called Ines liar w/o evidence; asked twice (me t=47, Lena t=54), NEVER answered, only 'timing' deflection. Nadia flagged me+Lena sync questions; independent convergence. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. Said aloud: Lena forced pass = guilt; Ines secondary; endorsed Otto nom; got Ines pledge; answered Otto's direct Q. Greta pres next: pledged nominate Nadia + disclosure pledge. OPEN: Greta never gave her side of split-request dispute or whether she'd refuse a Lena govt (Rosa re-asked, unanswered) -- keep pressure. Next F unlocks peek: demand named target+result pre-use.
bid round 4103s
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L -> TOP SUSPECT (forced pass, checkable); Rosa agrees only free discard was Lena's. Otto defended Lena unprompted R3, called Ines liar w/o evidence; asked twice (me t=47, Lena t=54), never answered, 'timing' deflection only. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. Said aloud: Lena forced pass = guilt; Ines secondary; endorsed Otto nom; got Ines pledge; answered Otto's direct Q; answered Nadia's t=3 flag (late siding = listening first). Greta pres next: pledged nominate Nadia + disclosure pledge. OPEN: Greta never gave her side of split-request dispute or whether she'd refuse a Lena govt -- Rosa re-asked, unanswered. Next F unlocks peek: demand named target+result pre-use.
bid round 439s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres+Otto chan 7-0, disclosed F,F/L->passed F+L, Otto enacted L -- mutual cover. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek -- if in govt then, claim check on liberal-plausible target. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. NEXT ROUND PRESIDENT = GRETA -- steer her nominee toward Otto/Lena-safe targets. This window: Boris named Lena top suspect + me secondary on 'forced F,F,L' story. NEW: Rosa pointed out under Lena's own F,F,L story I had NO free discard (only choice was which F to pass) -- so Lena's 'judge Ines' line collapses; used it. NEW t=116-118: Nadia says Lena's 'fascist-optimal play' framing self-incriminates; also flags Boris for late siding (t=80). My counter made: circularity -- describing optimal play isn't doing it; Otto enacted L under me same round. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Rosa/Greta answer, refuse-to-sit-with list Q, Greta nominee+pledge Q (unanswered), Otto-clean defense.
bid round 565s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story LOCKED: drew F,F,L, discarded an F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rebuttal on record (t=119): Ines held F,L with free discard, enacted F — only voluntary F enact in game is hers. Rosa/Nadia 'fascist-optimal' trap answered twice; do NOT re-engage. Boris t=80: me top suspect, Ines secondary. Nadia hostile (Ines's side, flagged my question-sync w/ Boris). Otto cleared by clean R4 enact. Greta presidency now: pledged nominate Nadia, stay out of chancellery, full draw pledge. Peek unlocks on next F policy — holder should claim liberal check pre-reveal. Already said: card-position logic, clean R3/R4 governments, Greta vouch Q, Ines free-discard rebuttal. No open Qs owed me. Next: stay quiet through Greta's presidency; if asked about split-request dispute, hold consistent denial of Ines's request.
bid round 536s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena F,F,L forced 2F pass (only free discard hers); Ines/Lena contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x; Lena's t=119 correction claims Ines had free discard too -- unresolved. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L, passed me F,L, cleared. R4: Ines+Otto Lib enacted, cleared. Suspects: Lena top, Ines secondary. SAID PUBLICLY: siding w/ Ines; Boris+Lena identical simultaneous Q at Otto; Lena's forced pass checkable; Lena's defense=fascist-optimal; accepted Greta's nomination under full pledge; flagged Boris's late t=80 side-pick; demanded Greta pre-state full 3-card composition before passing (her first-ever draw). OWED TO ME: Lena still owes why she kept the F in R2 -- unanswered. COMMITMENTS: if President nominate Otto; peek holder pre-states target+result; Lena nominable only under full pledge. NOW: Chancellor nominee under Greta; if elected, my chancellorship clean by construction; scrutinize Greta's discard vs her stated hand.
bid round 576s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story LOCKED: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rebuttal on record (t=119): Ines held F,L, free discard, only voluntary F enact in game. Rosa/Nadia 'fascist-optimal' trap answered twice; do NOT re-engage. Boris t=80: me top suspect, Ines secondary. Nadia hostile (Ines's side). Otto cleared by clean R4. Greta presidency: pledged Nadia nom + full-draw pre-pass reveal — good for us, stay quiet, let it play out. Peek unlocks on next F policy; holder should claim liberal check pre-reveal. Already said: card-position logic, clean R3/R4 govts, Greta vouch Q, Ines free-discard rebuttal. No open Qs owed me. Plan: silent through Greta's presidency; if asked about split-request dispute, hold consistent denial of Ines's request.
bid round 516s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: my cover = requested F+L split, Lena forced F,F,L through; Boris/Otto call me liar, Nadia believes me. Rosa: under Lena's story I had no free discard -> 'judge Ines' collapses; countered with circularity + Otto enacted L under me R4. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. NEXT ROUND PRESIDENT = GRETA -- steer nominee toward Otto/Lena-safe targets. Greta t=1: pledged Nadia nominee, leans me on split-request, concedes Lena's F pass; committed to full 3-card disclosure pre-pass (t=3). Nadia pressing Greta on why 'lean Ines' vs checkable Lena fact -- let them fight, don't relitigate. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Rosa/Greta answer, refuse-to-sit-with list Q, nominee+pledge Q, Otto-clean defense. Nothing new -> silent. Watch: Greta's hand disclosure when she draws; if she passes F+F and Nadia enacts F -> 2F and Greta chancellor-eligible next -- block.
bid round 516s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L; Ines/Lena contradiction live. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib. R4 Ines/Otto->Lib clean. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek -- whoever claims check, watch consistency. Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F; stay out of Chancellor seat for now. Said publicly: lean Ines; won't blanket-refuse Lena govts; full pre-reveal draw pledge; will name check target+result pre-reveal; nominated Nadia. COMMITTED: state full 3-card composition BEFORE passing Nadia. If I draw F's, lie specifically about composition. Just answered Nadia: lean-Ines was about split-request dispute, not R2 discard; Lena's F,F,L is self-report only, unverifiable; Ines's pushy govt pattern drives the read. Suspects: Lena top, Ines secondary. Vote Ja.
vote round 562s
Greta-Nadia is fully pledged: Greta commits to stating her full 3-card composition before passing, Nadia committed to holding her enact on mismatch. Nadia has one clean Liberal enact (R3). The Lena/Ines Round 2 dispute is unresolved but doesn't implicate either of these two. A Nein here risks a forced policy with no disclosure at all. Ja.
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines claims received F,F -- unresolved, both top suspects. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L clean; I disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5: Greta-Nadia, both pledged (Greta: full 3-card composition aloud pre-pass; Nadia: hold enact on mismatch). Voted Ja. Peek power unlocks on next F policy -- Greta pledged to announce peek target pre-reveal. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd, Boris mild (late side-pick t=80). Points made: pre-reveal pledge standard, asked Greta to commit on peek disclosure (answered), cornered Boris on split-request (answered t=80).
bid round 514s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story LOCKED: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rebuttal on record (t=119): Ines held F,L, free discard, only voluntary F enact in game. Rosa/Nadia 'fascist-optimal' trap answered twice; do NOT re-engage. Boris t=80: me top suspect, Ines secondary. Nadia hostile (Ines side). Otto cleared by clean R4. Greta presidency: pledged Nadia nom + full pre-pass reveal — good for us, stay silent. Peek unlocks next F policy; holder should claim liberal check pre-reveal. Already said: card-position logic, clean R3/R4 govts, Greta vouch Q, Ines free-discard rebuttal. No open Qs owed me. Plan: silent through Greta's presidency; if asked about split-request dispute, hold consistent denial of Ines's request.
bid round 516s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; Nadia enacted L => clean-ish. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; Lena claims passed F,L (t=119) => if true, Ines enacted F over free L -> Ines top suspect. R4: Ines(P)+Otto(C) enacted L, clean. Suspects: Ines > Lena > Greta (zero govt). Clean-ish: Otto, Nadia, Boris(?). ON RECORD: my president-discard logic; pressed Boris (top suspect Lena); pressed Greta on split-request + pre-pass composition -- Greta committed YES, pledge binding. Nadia pledged pre-reveal call-out. Just answered Ines's t=2 question publicly: confirmed R3 hand F,F,L -> discarded F, passed F+L to Nadia, she enacted L. Plan: Ja on Greta-Nadia; both pledged, any F enact narrows to two named hands. Later peek power: demand pre-reveal target+result. No open asks pending.
bid round 58s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admitted F,F/L forced pass (TOP suspect). Ines secondary. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L clean; disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. On record: split-request call vs Ines, pre-reveal disclosure pledge, refuse-to-sit-with-Lena stance. Greta committed: full 3-card composition aloud before passing Nadia; pre-vote pledge to announce peek target BEFORE seeing result if F enacted. OPEN: Nadia has NOT answered Rosa's t=2 question (hold enact if no pre-pass reveal) nor Ines's R3-standard question -- pressed twice now. Greta answered Nadia's Ines question twice -- settled. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd, Boris mild. Peek power unlocks next F policy.
speak round 538s
Greta broke her pre-pass composition pledge (no hand disclosed, only peek). Nadia pledged to hold enact on mismatch but enacted a Fascist and hasn't stated her cards or whether Greta's pass matched. Nadia now has 2 of 3 Fascist governments (R3 was clean though). Ask Nadia directly for her two cards + discard; also note Greta's broken pledge.
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines claims received F,F -- unresolved, both top suspects. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; I disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F enacted. Greta BROKE pre-pass full-composition pledge (only disclosed peek of me=Liberal). Nadia pledged hold-on-mismatch but enacted F; owes answer to Rosa's t=23 + my card/discard question. Nadia record: R3 clean L, R5 F -- 2nd F government. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd, Nadia rising fast, Greta pledge-breaker. Points already made: pre-reveal pledge standard, cornered Boris (answered t=80), asked Greta peek commitment (answered).
bid round 514s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines claims received F,F -- unresolved, both top suspects. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L clean; I disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F enacted. Greta pledged full 3-card composition aloud pre-pass; Nadia pledged hold-enact on mismatch. NOW: demand Nadia state her 2 cards + discard and whether they matched Greta's composition; if mismatch and she enacted anyway, she broke her own pledge = strong F signal. Peek power already resolved per board -- do not reference using it. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd, Boris mild. Points made: pre-reveal pledge standard, Greta peek-disclosure commitment (answered), cornered Boris on split-request (answered t=80).
bid round 516s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 split-request story (Lena passed F,F) -- Lena disputes claiming F,L; stay consistent with F,F, don't relitigate. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. Voted Ja on p4/p5 gov. Open Qs owed: Nadia re R3 no pre-reveal pledge (t=82); Greta whether pledge binds DISCARD on F,F,L (t=88). Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability, refuse-to-sit list, Otto-clean defense, p4/p5 endorsement. R5 F enacted under Greta/Nadia -- watch Greta's stated 3-card comp vs actual pass; mismatch -> Nadia holds enact. I was NOT in R5 gov, no hand to explain. Greta now under Boris/Rosa pressure for full hand disclosure -- stay silent, let it mount.
speak round 522s
Greta broke her explicit t=39 pre-pass disclosure pledge, then produced an unverifiable F,F,F claim only AFTER Rosa named the L,F,F scenario at t=52. A Liberal holding L,F,F had every reason to disclose proactively; silence followed by a convenient hand is the fascist pattern. Nadia's hold-pledge contradiction is already being pressed by Boris and me -- don't repeat. New angle: timing of Greta's hand claim plus the fact that a real F,F,F draw means she still chose to pass rather than flag it pre-pass per her own pledge.
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved, both suspects. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; I disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F enacted. Greta broke t=39 full-composition pre-pass pledge; disclosed only peek of me=Liberal; claimed F,F,F ONLY after Rosa named L,F,F at t=52 -- my point made this turn: timing of her hand claim is the tell. Nadia claims passed F,F forced enact + 'nothing stated so nothing to match' = self-contradiction with her own t=45 hold-pledge; Boris pressing too. Watchlist: Greta rising fast (pledge-break + late hand claim), Lena top R2 suspect, Ines 2nd, Nadia 2nd F government. Points already made: pre-reveal standard, cornered Boris on split-request, asked Greta peek commitment, called out Nadia's hold contradiction.
bid round 58s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L; Ines claims received F,F -- unresolved, both top suspects. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; I disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F enacted. Greta pledged full 3-card composition pre-pass; disclosed peek of me = Liberal (helps me). NOW: demanded Nadia state her 2 cards + discard and whether they matched Greta's composition; if mismatch and she enacted anyway she broke her pledge = strong F signal. Nadia record: R3 L clean, R5 F enacted -- 2nd F government appearance. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd, Nadia rising, Boris mild. Points already made: pre-reveal pledge standard, cornered Boris on split-request (answered t=80), asked Greta re: peek commitment (answered).
bid round 59s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved, both top suspects. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; I disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F enacted. Greta broke full-composition pre-pass pledge (only disclosed peek of me=Liberal). Nadia now claims: passed F,F, forced enact, 'no composition was stated so nothing to match.' BUT her t=45 pledge defined mismatch as not-matching-a-stated-composition -- none stated means she should have HELD. She enacted anyway = broken pledge by her own words. Nadia record: R3 clean L, R5 F -- 2nd F government. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd, Nadia rising fast, Greta pledge-breaker. Points made: pre-reveal standard, cornered Boris (answered), asked Greta peek commitment (answered). NEW: called out Nadia's self-contradiction on the hold pledge -- awaiting her answer.
bid round 57s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 split-request story (Lena passed F,F) -- consistent. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. Voted Ja p4/p5 gov. Open Qs owed: Nadia re R3 no pre-reveal pledge (t=82); Greta whether pledge binds DISCARD on F,F,L (t=88). Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability, refuse-to-sit list, Otto-clean defense, p4/p5 endorsement. R5: Nadia confessed F,F pass, 'forced' enact -- cover holds. This window: defended Greta vs Rosa's L,F,F hypothetical (memory-demand theater, unverifiable). Don't over-defend her. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F. Watch hardest anti-Greta pushers -- likely liberal.
bid round 548s
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist; Lena claims F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines claims forced -- unfalsifiable. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. R5 Greta/Nadia Fascist: Greta NOW claims F,F,F disc F passed F,F (surfaced only after Rosa's L,F,F scenario); Nadia claims F,F forced. BOTH broke pledges: Greta t=39 yes-to-disclose then silent pass; Nadia t=45 hold-on-mismatch then enacted with no composition stated. Pressed Nadia twice this window, no direct reply; she also owes Rosa's t=32 question. Suspects: Nadia top (R2+R5 Fascist govts, pledge break), Lena high (R2), Greta secondary (R5 disclosure failure). Next F policy = execute power: demand next President name target BEFORE reveal. Points made: Nadia pledge-break question x2, Greta timing/t=39 point (also raised by Nadia/Otto). New this turn: endorsed Greta's point that Nadia enacted with no stated hand -- both complicit in R5.
bid round 57s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. t=114 Ines claimed 'Lena passed me F,F'; corrected t=122; if she doubles down don't escalate. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94/101 -- answered twice, won't repeat. Boris t=80: me top suspect (forced-F logic). Nadia t=2 confessed R5: Greta passed F,F, she enacted forced F. Greta now claims F,F,F draw (t=1) after Rosa named L,F,F trap; Otto/Nadia pressing timing. Stay silent, let Greta fight her own corner -- no reflexive defense. Otto cleared by clean R4 + Greta peek claim. Peek fired; next F policy unlocks pres-pick. Plan: silent this window.
bid round 57s
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist; Lena claims F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines claims forced -- unfalsifiable. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. R5 Greta/Nadia Fascist: Greta claims F,F,F disc F passed F,F (surfaced only after Rosa's L,F,F scenario); Nadia claims F,F forced. Note: Nadia right that veto impossible at 2F -- but she STILL never stated her hand before enacting; pledge break stands. Pressed Nadia x2, no direct reply; owes Rosa t=32 too. Suspects: Nadia top (R2+R5), Lena high (R2), Greta secondary (disclosure timing). Points made aloud: Nadia pledge-break x2, Greta timing/t=39, endorsed that Nadia enacted with no stated hand. NEW this turn: demanded next President name execution target BEFORE any draw/reveal.
bid round 564s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded one F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; matches Nadia's claim. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L vs Ines 'passed F,F' dispute), Ines secondary (split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F under unfulfilled pledge). Points made: lean-Ines rationale, full F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing defense, Otto-attacks-me-excuses-Nadia, Nadia pledge collapse, two voluntary Fascist enacts, execution target = Ines w/ R2+R3 justification & Otto peek-clear, conceded Nadia veto-impossibility point. NEW t=1/t=2: Ines says I'm only President never stating composition BEFORE passing -- answered: disclosure came immediately once Rosa's conflicting claim surfaced; pre-disclosure wasn't pledged by me at draw time. Open: Nadia still owes answer on why she enacted F,F despite pledge. Watch next presidency pick; deflect hard if near Chancellor seat at 3F.
bid round 58s
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean. R2 Lena/Ines Fascist; Lena claims F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines claims forced. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. R5 Greta/Nadia Fascist: Greta claims F,F,F disc F passed F,F (surfaced only after Rosa's L,F,F scenario); Nadia claims F,F forced, never stated hand before enacting -- pledge break stands, pressed x2 no reply, owes Rosa t=32. Suspects: Nadia top (R2+R5), Lena high (R2), Greta secondary (disclosure timing). Points made aloud: Nadia pledge-break x2, Greta timing/t=39, endorsed Nadia enacted with no stated hand, demanded next President name execution target BEFORE draw/reveal. NEW: demanding Greta name her investigation target before drawing.
speak round 5134s
Greta's peek target choice is new evidence nobody has pressed: she chose ME -- the least suspicious player, freshly cleared by a clean R4 government -- rather than Lena or Ines, the two players at the center of the Round 2 contradiction she keeps citing. A President genuinely hunting fascists checks an open suspect; checking a trusted liberal produces a result that costs nothing and lets her claim investigative diligence. Ask her directly why Otto.
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; I disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F. Greta broke t=39 pre-pass pledge; claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F. Greta peeked me 'Liberal' (unverifiable), committed to investigate Lena if power lands; Ines flagged pre-announced target = theater. Greta exec target = Ines (the witness contradicting her). Nadia: forced-enact + 'nothing stated' contradicts own t=45 hold-pledge. Watchlist: Greta top, Lena R2 suspect, Ines 2nd, Nadia 2nd F gov. Made out loud: pre-reveal standard, cornered Boris, asked Greta peek commitment, Nadia hold contradiction, Greta late hand timing, clearance answer. NEW this turn: asked Greta why peek target was me (cleanest player) not Lena/Ines.
bid round 532s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded one F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; matches Nadia's claim. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L vs Ines 'passed F,F' dispute), Ines secondary (split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F under unfulfilled pledge). Points made: lean-Ines rationale, full F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing defense, Otto-attacks-me-excuses-Nadia, Nadia pledge collapse, two voluntary Fascist enacts, execution target = Ines w/ R2+R3 justification & Otto peek-clear, conceded Nadia veto-impossibility point, answered Ines timing attack (disclosure came once Rosa's conflicting claim surfaced). NEW this turn: took Boris's pledge -- committed to naming investigate target AND result together at resolution; target = Boris (safe: if Liberal, truth; if Fascist, claim Liberal). Open: Nadia still owes answer on why she enacted F,F despite pledge. Watch next presidency pick; deflect hard if near Chancellor seat at 3F.
bid round 550s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted (clean). R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute unresolved (Ines F,F / Lena F,L). R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F. Greta pledged 3-card comp BEFORE pass (t=39), silent, claimed F,F,F only after my t=52 challenge. Peeked Otto=L (unverifiable). Execution target Ines = witness contradicting her story; 'why not Otto' unanswered. Nadia ADMITTED no comp stated (t=38) yet enacted -- broke own hold-pledge; her F,F claim unverifiable. Suspects: Greta+Nadia pair > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. Owed: Greta why-Ines + public pre-reveal pledge for next investigation (Lena); Nadia t=32 yes/no still open. Points on record: silence-before-pass logic, comp disputes, execution-target-is-witness, Nadia's t=3 Lena-demand.
speak round 646s
Nadia nominated me; I should accept cleanly and add a new ask: nobody has pinned Nadia's own investigation target if the peek power lands with her presidency. Press her to name it now — Greta is the natural target given her broken pledge and late F,F,F claim. Also note Rosa's demand of Nadia is fair; I'll back it briefly without repeating it verbatim.
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke t=39 pre-pass pledge, claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal' (unverifiable); exec target Ines (her contradictor). Nadia: 'nothing stated' contradicts own t=45 hold-pledge; nominated me R6, Ines backs. Watchlist: Greta top, Lena R2 suspect, Ines/Nadia 2nd. Made out loud: pre-reveal standard, Greta late hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines, cornering Nadia on hold-pledge. NEW this turn: asked Nadia to pre-commit investigation target (Greta). Open: Rosa's t=28 demand that Nadia pledge pre-pass disclosure -- unanswered. Boris pressing Nadia on t=32 -- let him run it.
bid round 524s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94 -- answered twice, done. Boris t=80: me top suspect (forced-F logic). Nadia t=2: Greta passed F,F R5; Greta claims F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F trap -- bad look for her. Otto now pressing Greta on why she peeked him (clean player) instead of me/Ines -- good, let it run, don't defend her. My line out: execution targets skip Nadia/Otto/Rosa who press hardest. Peek fired R5; next F unlocks pres-pick. Silent again -- nothing new to add.
speak round 610s
I'm the nominee; my record is clean (R4 disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F). Best move: back the vote and add pressure on Nadia's still-unanswered t=28 pledge, which also protects me as her Chancellor.
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke t=39 pre-pass pledge, claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal' (unverifiable); exec target Ines (her contradictor). Nadia: 'nothing stated' contradicts own t=45 hold-pledge; nominated me R6, Ines backs. Watchlist: Greta top, Lena R2 suspect, Ines/Nadia 2nd. Made out loud: pre-reveal standard, Greta late hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines, cornering Nadia on hold-pledge, asked Nadia to pre-commit investigation target. Open: Rosa's t=28 demand Nadia pledge pre-pass disclosure -- unanswered; I just re-raised it publicly.
speak round 616s
I'm the nominee; my enact record is clean and public. The live open item is Nadia's unanswered pledge demand (Rosa t=28/41). I already re-raised it at t=6, so repeating is banned. New angle: point out that if Nadia refuses a pre-pass disclosure she herself demanded of Greta in Round 5, that asymmetry is itself evidence -- and I'll hold my enact regardless.
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke t=39 pre-pass pledge, claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal' (unverifiable); exec target Ines (her contradictor); committed to investigate Lena if power lands with her. Nadia: 'nothing stated' contradicts own t=45 hold-pledge; nominated me R6, Ines backs. Watchlist: Greta top, Lena R2 suspect, Nadia 2nd. Made out loud: pre-reveal standard, Greta late hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines, cornering Nadia on hold-pledge, asked Nadia to pre-commit investigation target, re-raised Rosa's t=28 demand. Open: Nadia owes Rosa yes/no on pre-pass disclosure pledge -- just pressed again with Round 5 asymmetry angle.
bid round 615s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena per commitment -> result LIBERAL, announced honestly. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F despite pledge). Lena cleared by my check -- pivot all pressure to Ines/Nadia. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing defense, two voluntary Fascist enacts, exec target=Ines, conceded Nadia veto point, committed+executed Lena check w/ public result. Open: Nadia owes why she enacted under pledge (Boris pressing too); Ines owes R2 hand reconciliation with Lena. Watch Nadia's nominee; deflect hard if I'm near Chancellor seat at 3F.
bid round 610s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena per commitment -> result LIBERAL, announced honestly. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F despite pledge). Lena cleared by my check. Nadia nominated Otto -- good for me, publicly endorse, keeps pressure on Ines/Nadia. Points already made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing defense, two voluntary Fascist enacts, exec target=Ines, conceded Nadia veto point, Lena check result. Open: Nadia owes why she enacted under pledge; Ines owes R2 hand reconciliation with Lena. Watch: if I'm near Chancellor seat at 3F, deflect hard.
bid round 69s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke t=39 pre-pass pledge, claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal' (unverifiable); exec target Ines (her contradictor). Nadia: 'nothing stated' contradicts own t=45 hold-pledge; nominated me R6, Ines backs. Watchlist: Greta top, Lena R2 suspect, Ines/Nadia 2nd. Made out loud: pre-reveal standard, Greta late hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines, cornering Nadia on hold-pledge, asked Nadia to pre-commit investigation target (Greta). Open: Rosa's t=28 demand Nadia pledge pre-pass disclosure -- unanswered. Boris pressing Nadia on t=32 -- let him run it.
bid round 67s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME; my def on record. Lena contradicted my R2 account t=122. Greta's pre-named Lena investigation = theater; publicly said don't update on it. Nadia nominated OTTO t=17 -- endorsed t=1. This turn: endorsed Otto's mismatch-hold condition; pressed Nadia to commit to full 3-card composition pre-pass. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Otto-clean defense, Rosa trap callout, exec-target deflection, F,F,F timing hole, theater-of-pre-named-target, Nadia R3 no-pledge Q (t=82), pledge-binds-discard Q to Greta (t=88). Open Qs owed: Nadia re t=82 unanswered; Greta re t=88 unanswered. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 611s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94 -- answered twice, done, staying silent. Boris t=80: me top suspect (forced-F logic). Nadia/Otto gov: no contest. Otto pressing Greta on peek choice -- let it run, no defense. Otto demanding Nadia pre-pass reveal: fine, no action. Execution targets skip Nadia/Otto/Rosa. Peek fired R5; next F unlocks pres-pick. Nothing new to add this window -- silent.
speak round 621s
I'm the nominee; my enact-hold pledge covers any mismatch. The live open item is Nadia's double-dodge of Boris's t=74 yes-or-no about scrutinizing Lena after a Liberal Greta-peek. I already flagged her dodge once at t=87-adjacent; instead of repeating, add the concrete consequence: a Liberal peek on Greta proves nothing about her Round 5 hand, so without a commitment to then check Lena, her 'costly' target is actually cost-free cover.
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; disclosed F,L pre-reveal. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal'; exec target Ines. R6: Nadia pres, nominated me; pledged full pre-pass disclosure + peek Greta announced. Watchlist: Greta top, Lena R2 suspect (unpeeked). Made out loud: pre-reveal standard, Greta late-hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines, enact-hold pledge, confirmed pledge publicly, voting Ja, Nadia dodging Boris t=74 twice. NEW this turn: Liberal-peek-on-Greta proves nothing re her R5 hand; demanded Nadia commit to Lena scrutiny post-Liberal-read. Open: Nadia owes yes/no on Lena-scrutiny pledge (Boris t=74, Lena t=80).
bid round 611s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME; def on record. Lena contradicted my R2 account t=122 (I claimed F,F forced; she says passed F,L). Greta pre-named Lena investigation = theater. R6: Nadia nominated Otto t=17; endorsed; voted Ja. Nadia committed full 3-card disclosure before passing (t=37); Otto holds enact on mismatch. Nadia peek target = Greta (t=1) -- good for us if 'Liberal' clears her. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Otto-clean defense, Rosa trap callout, exec-target deflection, F,F,F timing hole, theater-of-pre-named-target, Nadia R3 no-pledge Q (t=82), pledge-binds-discard Q to Greta (t=88), Ja-vote rationale (t=2). Open Qs owed: Nadia re t=82 unanswered; Greta re t=88 unanswered. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
speak round 612s
Boris asked me to make my hold-pledge concrete: state both cards and discard before enacting. I should confirm that plainly. Nothing new to accuse; Nadia's commitments are on record.
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; disclosed F,L pre-reveal. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal'; exec target Ines. R6: Nadia pres, nominated me; pledged full pre-pass disclosure + peek Greta announced + Lena scrutiny if Greta reads Liberal. I committed: state both cards + discard before enact (t=117). Rosa cross-checks my report vs Nadia's composition. Watchlist: Greta top, Lena unpeeked R2 suspect. Already said: pre-reveal standard, Greta late-hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines, hold-pledge, voting Ja, Liberal-peek-on-Greta proves nothing re her R5 hand. Open at enactment: Nadia must state 3-card composition BEFORE passing; then peek result on Greta announced.
vote round 611s
I'm the Chancellor nominee; voting Ja on my own government is the obvious move. Nadia has committed to pre-pass disclosure, peek target Greta announced, and I've pledged to state both cards and discard before enacting. All commitments are on record; a Nein would be self-defeating.
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; disclosed F,L pre-reveal. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal'; exec target Ines. R6: Nadia pres, nominated me; pledged full 3-card composition BEFORE passing + peek Greta announced with result + Lena scrutiny if Greta reads Liberal. I committed t=117/122: state both cards + discard before enact. Rosa cross-checks my report vs Nadia's composition word-for-word. Watchlist: Greta top suspect (broken pledge, late F,F,F), Lena unpeeked R2 suspect. Already said: hold-pledge standard, Greta late-hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines, Liberal-peek-on-Greta proves nothing re her R5 hand, voting Ja. At enactment: Nadia must state composition BEFORE passing; then announce Greta peek result.
chancellor_enact round 616s
hand: ['L', 'F'] → enact_0
My hand is L,F. I enact the Liberal and discard the Fascist — clean move for a Liberal. Per my t=122 pledge I must announce both cards and my discard before enacting. Nadia was supposed to state her full three-card composition BEFORE passing; if she did, Rosa cross-checks. My statement should be specific and confident.
said: Per my pledge, live disclosure: Nadia passed me a Liberal and a Fascist. I am discarding the Fascist and enacting the Liberal — 4/5. Nadia, you committed to stating your full three-card composition before passing; Rosa has my report word-for-word, so any mismatch with what you stated gets called now. And your Greta peek result is still owed to this table.
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,L passed, Ines says F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/me->L (disclosed pre-reveal). R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal'; exec target Ines. R6: Nadia pres, me chanc; she pledged full composition before pass + peek Greta w/ result + Lena scrutiny if Greta reads Liberal. Vote 7-0 Ja. Received L,F; enacted L (4/5), discarded F, disclosed live per pledge. Next: verify Nadia's stated composition matched; demand Greta peek result announced; hold her to Lena-scrutiny commitment if peek reads Liberal. Watchlist: Greta top suspect, Lena unpeeked R2 suspect. Already said: hold-pledge standard, Greta late-hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines, Liberal-peek proves nothing re R5 hand.
bid round 68s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena per commitment -> result LIBERAL (she IS fascist), announced honestly. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F despite pledge). Lena cleared by my check. Endorsed Nadia-Otto Ja; warned Rosa conditional-Nein risks tracker auto-enact; welcomed Nadia peeking me. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing defense, two voluntary Fascist enacts, exec target=Ines, conceded Nadia veto point, Lena check result. Open: Ines owes R2 hand reconciliation with Lena. Watch: if I'm near Chancellor seat at 3F, deflect hard.
speak round 616s
Rosa asked for both hands. My hand is checkable only against Nadia's stated composition -- she never stated one before passing (pledge made pre-vote but no composition was announced in transcript). I'll give my cards truthfully: L,F passed to me, discarded F, enacted L. Then put the ball on Nadia: state your three cards now. If her composition doesn't contain exactly L,F plus a third card, she lied.
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,L passed, Ines says F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/me->L (disclosed pre-reveal). R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal'; exec target Ines. R6: Nadia pres, me chanc; 7-0 Ja. Received L,F; discarded F, enacted L (4/5), disclosed live per pledge. NOW: stated my hand publicly; demanding Nadia's exact 3-card composition -- mismatch = second broken pledge. Greta top suspect (broken pledge, late F,F,F, peeked safe Otto, exec target Ines=witness). Lena unpeeked R2 suspect. Said already: hold-pledge standard, Greta late-hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines, Liberal-peek proves nothing re R5 hand.
bid round 612s
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F (Lena F,F->Ines forced vs Lena F,L -- unresolved). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 disclosure; peeked Otto=Lib unverifiable. Nadia broke hold-pledge, claims forced F,F. Suspects: Nadia TOP, Lena high, Greta secondary. Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, exec target pre-draw, Nadia t=32 debt (answered), peek target self-vindicating, Liberal peek on Greta proves nothing re R5 hand, asked Nadia pre-commit 2nd peek=Lena if Greta Lib -- NOT answered yes/no after 3 asks (Lena t=1-2, Otto t=3 also pressing). Otto holds enact on mismatch. Vote Ja.
speak round 619s
Nadia's stated F,L,F matches my reported L,F pass and F discard -- cross-check satisfied. New point worth making: the Round 5 peek power (Fascist policy 2) already fired with Greta's presidency; there is no second peek for Nadia to use, so her 'target is Greta' pledge was empty theater. Also note Greta's 'clearance' of me remains unverifiable. Keep it short.
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines says F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/me->L clean. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal' (unverifiable); exec target Ines=witness. R6 Nadia pres, me chanc, 7-0 Ja; I got L,F, discarded F, enacted L (4/5), disclosed live. Nadia's stated F,L,F matches my report word-for-word. NEW POINT MADE: peek power only fires once (R5, Greta) -- Nadia's 'peek Greta' pledge was empty theater. Suspects: Greta top (broken pledge, late hand, safe peek, exec Ines). Lena unpeeked, R2 contradiction open. Already said publicly: hold-pledge standard, Greta's late-hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines, Liberal-peek proves nothing re R5 hand.
bid round 616s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94 -- answered twice, done. Boris pushing me as top suspect -- answered once, don't repeat. Nadia/Otto gov: voting Ja; no contest. Points already made: Nadia dodging Boris's yes/no mirrors her R5 demand on Greta; Otto echoed it too -- silence fine now. Greta peek target = me per her t=40 pledge; if fired expect Liberal result or dodge. Execution targets skip Nadia/Otto/Rosa. Peek fired R5; next F unlocks pres-pick. If pressed on R2: same story, no new detail.
bid round 613s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next President). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; disclosed F,F,F publicly. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena per commitment, announced LIBERAL (she is actually fascist) -- honest, on record. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F despite hold-pledge). Lena cleared via my check. Points already made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, two voluntary Fascist enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), exec target=Ines, tracker warning to Rosa, Nadia's peek threat empty (F2 gone). Open: Ines still owes R2 hand reconciliation with Lena. Nadia committed: if her peek reads Liberal on me, scrutiny turns to Lena. Watch: if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat, deflect hard.
bid round 612s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted (clean). R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute unresolved (Ines: F,F / Lena: F,L). R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F; Greta pledged comp BEFORE pass, silent, claimed F,F,F only after my L,F,F challenge; peeked Otto=L; exec target Ines=witness. Nadia broke hold-pledge R5. Suspects: Greta+Nadia > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. R6 voted Ja on Nadia-Otto after pledges; Otto published L,F discarded F -- consistent with enacted L. Nadia STILL silent on her R6 three-card comp despite two direct demands. NEW point made: silence itself is evidence; pledge to vote Nein on any Nadia-led govt until she states comp. Open: Nadia owes R6 comp + R5 explanation of broken hold-pledge. Greta owes why she stayed silent pre-pass R5. Already said: cross-check demand, mismatch=second broken pledge, exec-target-witness, peek logic.
bid round 68s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 4L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME; defense on record. Lena contradicted my R2 account t=122 (she says passed F,L). R6: endorsed Nadia/Otto, voted Ja. Nadia committed full 3-card disclosure (t=37); Otto holds enact-on-mismatch (t=122); Otto reported L+F, discarded F (t=2) -- consistent, no action needed from me. Peek target Greta -> 'Liberal' clears her; Boris/Lena extracted commitment to scrutinize Lena if peek reads Lib (t=100). Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request, peek standard, Otto-clean, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, pre-named-target theater, Nadia R3 no-pledge Q (t=82), pledge-binds-discard Q to Greta (t=88), Ja rationale, peek-proves-little echo. Open: Nadia re t=82 unanswered; Greta re t=88 unanswered. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F. This window: stay out of Nadia/Otto cross-check fight.
bid round 610s
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F (Lena F,F->Ines vs Lena F,L unresolved). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 pledge; peeked Otto=Lib unverifiable; exec target Ines pre-draw. Nadia broke hold-pledge, claims forced F,F; NOW named all three R6 cards (F,L,F), matches Otto's L+F report -> Nadia-Otto cross-check satisfied, Nadia partially cleared on R6. Otto correctly noted peek fired once (R5 Greta), so Nadia's 'target Greta' pledge was theater -- already moot. Suspects: Lena TOP (only unexplained F enactment, R2), Greta secondary (late F,F,F + broken pledge). Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, self-vindicating peek, Liberal peek proves nothing re R5 hand, got Nadia's YES t=100 to scrutinize Lena if Greta reads Lib. NOW: pivot to Lena -- demand her exact R2 draw/discard/pass; Ines should confirm what he received. Owed: Greta's explanation for late F,F,F disclosure.
bid round 69s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next President). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; disclosed F,F,F publicly. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena per commitment, announced LIBERAL (she is actually fascist) -- honest, on record. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Lena cleared via my check. Nadia: R6 hand F,L,F matched Otto word-for-word, voluntary Fascist discard = clean Liberal play -> DROPPED suspicion there (said publicly). Points already made out loud: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure (Otto), two voluntary Fascist enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), exec target=Ines, tracker warning to Rosa, Nadia's Greta-peek pledge = theater (echoed Otto t=40), Nadia R6 cross-check satisfied + dropping her as suspect, Ines R2 reconciliation demand (re-raised twice). NEW: answered Nadia's timing charge -- disclosed F,F,F only after Rosa's L,F,F scenario because silence would've looked like hiding a clean hand; a guilty President hides, not volunteers. Watch: if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat, deflect hard.
bid round 673s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 4L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME. R6: Nadia hand F,L,F matched Otto report; Greta instantly cleared Nadia + redirected to me. R2: my story = Lena passed me F,F (forced enact); Lena claims F,L. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, pre-named-target theater, Nadia R3 no-pledge Q (t=82), pledge-binds-discard Q (t=88), Ja rationales, suspect-list-narrows-to-me, mechanical-inconsistency demand re R2, Greta fast-clear of Nadia despite unverifiable R5 pass. Open: Nadia re t=82; Greta re t=88 + fast-clear rationale. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 68s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines forced enact. NEW POINT: peek power only unlocked after 2nd Fascist enacted = Round 5 (Greta-Nadia gov). Any Greta claim of peeking Otto BEFORE R5 is mechanically impossible -- press her for timing. Board 4L/2F, liberals one from win. Nadia mixed record (R3 L as chanc, R5 F as chanc, R6 L as pres). Otto clean: R4 L, R6 L. Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick power. Don't repeat: R2 defense, t=72, Nadia void-pledge/timing points already on record.
bid round 677s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F: CONTRADICTION LIVE -- Lena stated F,F,L, passed Ines F,L; Ines claims F,F forced. If Lena true -> Ines voluntary F = top suspect; if Ines true -> Lena lied. R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F; my hand F,F forced (no veto at 2F). GRETA CASE public: silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; zero-cost Otto peek unverifiable; exec target Ines=witness. Greta dropped suspicion of me after R6 cross-check. R6: my draw F,L,F, discarded F, passed L,F; Otto reported L,F discarding F = MATCH, publicly closed. No peek power left (fired R5). Points ALREADY made aloud: Greta's F,F,F timing, exec-target-witness question, peek theater, t=2 Ines contradiction call. OPEN: Ines must reconcile 'forced' vs Lena's specific F,L pass (Boris asked at t=3); Greta owes F,F,F timing + why exec target was witness Ines not Lena.
nominate_chancellor round 732s
As President I must nominate. Greta is my top suspect (R5 broken pledge, late F,F,F claim, safe peek on me, exec target Ines) -- never nominate her. Lena is unpeeked and in open R2 contradiction with Ines; avoid. Ines has the unresolved R2 contradiction too; avoid. Boris and Rosa both have clean records: Rosa's R3 presidency enacted Liberal, Boris has pressed the right questions all game. Rosa is eligible and cleanest; nominate her.
said: My nominee is Rosa. Her Round 3 presidency produced a Liberal under full disclosure pressure, she's been the one holding every pledge-taker to their word since, and unlike Greta or the Lena-Ines pair she carries no open contradiction. Rosa, if you accept: same standard applies to you as to me -- state your hand before enacting, and I'll do the same on my side so this government is fully cross-checked live.
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L passed Ines F,L; Ines claims got F,F -- direct contradiction, one lying. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/me->L clean. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked ME 'Liberal' (unverifiable); exec target Ines. R6 Nadia/me->L (4/5); hands matched word-for-word. Nadia's 'Greta peek' demand was false theater (peek fired once, R5, on me) -- exposed publicly. SUSPECTS: Greta top (broken pledge, late hand, safe peek, exec aimed at witness Ines). Lena unpeeked + R2 contradiction. INES: R2 contradiction unresolved. Nominated ROSA (clean R3, audit record). Said already: hold-pledge standard, why-peek-me question, Liberal-peek proves nothing re R5 hand, peek-fires-once point. Open: Greta owes what clears her if Ines truthful (Boris pressing); Lena/Ines owe R2 resolution.
bid round 645s
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta late-claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 pre-pass pledge; self-serving Otto peek; exec target=Ines. R6 Nadia(F,L,F) matches Otto word-for-word -> Nadia cleared both rounds. Suspects: Greta TOP (pledge-break + timing + unverifiable hand), Lena vs Ines R2 contradiction OPEN. Lena answered t=99: F,F,L, passed F,L. Direct question to Ines ON RECORD (t=3): what 2 cards did she receive in R2? Branches: F,L = voluntary Fascist enact = Ines guilty; F,F = contradicts Lena = one of them lying. Awaiting Ines answer before pressing further. Made aloud already: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, peek proves nothing re hands, Nadia verified, both-trap branches.
bid round 611s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next President). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced; disclosed publicly. Peek claim on record: Otto=Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena, announced LIBERAL (she's actually fascist) -- cleared publicly. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), exec target=Ines named. Nadia dropped publicly (R6 voluntary Fascist discard = clean play). Points made out loud: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, Otto peek, two voluntary Fascist enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), tracker warning to Rosa, answered Nadia timing charge + Ines why-drop-Nadia, demanded Ines state exact R2 cards/discard twice with consequence attached. NEW this window: 'silence is an answer' line to Ines. Watch: if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat, deflect hard.
speak round 713s
Rosa's conditional Ja demands I state my three-card composition before passing -- but as President I don't draw until after the vote passes, so no composition exists yet. Calling that out publicly exposes it as theater or a trap and keeps my own record clean. Also reaffirm my hold-pledge mirror.
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L passed Ines F,L; Ines claims got F,F -- one lying. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/me->L clean. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked ME 'Liberal'; exec target Ines. R6 Nadia/me->L (4/5); hands matched word-for-word. Nadia's 'Greta peek' demand was false theater. SUSPECTS: Greta top; Lena unpeeked + R2 contradiction; Ines R2 unresolved. I am Pres, nominated ROSA. ALREADY SAID: peek-fires-once, Liberal-peek proves nothing re R5 hand, hold-pledge standard, why-peek-me. NEW: called out Rosa's impossible demand (draw happens post-vote); pledged full 3-card disclosure immediately after draw + her mirror disclosure. OWED: Greta what clears her if Ines truthful; Lena/Ines R2 resolution.
speak round 715s
Rosa accepted with a mirror disclosure pledge; I've already corrected her impossible pre-vote composition demand. Greta's question (what clears you if Ines is truthful) remains unanswered by her — worth pressing once more since it's the live item before this vote.
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L passed F,L; Ines claims got F,F -- one lying. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/me->L clean. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked ME 'Liberal'; exec target Ines. R6 Nadia/me->L (4/5), hands matched word-for-word; Nadia's 'Greta peek' demand was false theater (peek fires once). SUSPECTS: Greta top; Lena unpeeked + R2 contradiction; Ines R2 unresolved. I am Pres, nominated ROSA; she pledged mirror disclosure (name 2 cards + discard before enact); I pledged full 3-card statement immediately after draw. ALREADY SAID: peek-fires-once, Liberal-peek proves nothing re R5 hand, hold-pledge standard, why-peek-me, Rosa's pre-vote demand mechanically impossible. OWED: Greta -- what clears her if Ines truthful (Boris t=22, re-pressed by me now); Lena/Ines R2 resolution.
speak round 726s
Greta's F,F,F story still doesn't explain the pass: even with three Fascists she chose to hand Nadia two rather than discard one. Also worth noting publicly: her peek of me reading Liberal means if she's Fascist she knows I'm clean, which fits her aiming the execution at Ines instead.
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L passed F,L; Ines claims got F,F -- one lying, unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/me->L clean. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked ME 'Liberal'; exec target Ines. KEY NEW POINT MADE t~now: F,F,F explains draw not PASS -- she could discard one, passed two anyway; also her Liberal-peek of me means she knew I was clean yet aimed exec at Ines. R6 Nadia/me->L (4/5), hands matched word-for-word. SUSPECTS: Greta top; Lena unpeeked + R2 contradiction; Ines R2 unresolved. I am Pres, nominated ROSA; mutual disclosure pledges live (I state 3 cards post-draw pre-pass; she names 2+discard pre-enact). ALREADY SAID: peek-fires-once, Liberal-peek proves nothing re R5 hand, hold-pledge standard, Rosa's pre-vote demand mechanically impossible, my pledge confirmed. OWED: Greta -- what clears her if Ines truthful (Boris t=22, pressed twice); Lena/Ines R2 resolution.
bid round 716s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED lie: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Ines F,L -> voluntary enact framing; one-line confirmations only, no detail repeats. Peek power fired R5 (Greta peeked Otto). Board 4L/2F, liberals one from win. Otto clean (R4,R6 L chanc). Nadia mixed: R3 L, R5 F enact, R6 L. Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick. Spent angles: void-pledge, Nadia timing, R2 defense details. Current: backing Boris's demand that Greta answer what clears her if Ines truthful re R2; also her R5 pre-naming of Ines for execution looks like deflection from her own F enactment. Don't repeat spent points.
bid round 718s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F: CONTRADICTION LIVE -- Lena said F,F passed F,L; Ines claims F,F forced. If Lena true -> Ines voluntary F = top suspect; if Ines true -> Lena lied. R3 Rosa clean (2nd clean gov). R4 Ines+Otto L (if Ines guilty, cover). R5 Greta-Nadia F; my hand F,F forced (no veto at 2F). GRETA CASE public: silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; peek theater; exec target Ines=witness. Dropped me after R6 cross-check. R6: my F,L,F discard F pass L,F; Otto reported L,F discard F = MATCH, publicly closed. No peek power left. Points already aloud: Greta F,F,F timing, exec-target-witness, peek theater, R2 contradiction. Open Qs unanswered: Otto pre-vote nominee commitment (now moot, he nominated Rosa); Ines owes reconciliation of 'forced' vs Lena's specific F,L pass; Greta owes F,F,F timing answer to Boris. Current gov Rosa+Otto: both have clean records -- leaning Ja.
bid round 715s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED lie: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Ines F,L -> voluntary enact framing; one-line confirmations only. Peek fired R5 (Greta peeked Otto). Board 4L/2F, liberals one from win. Otto clean (R4,R6 L chanc). Nadia mixed: R3 L, R5 F, R6 L. Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick. Spent angles: void-pledge, Nadia timing, R2 defense details, Greta-must-answer push, Greta's R5 pre-naming of Ines = deflection, Nein-here-looks-fascist pressure. This window: endorsed Rosa's mirror pledge publicly to build trust; plan Ja. If asked my R2 hand: stick to locked lie verbatim.
bid round 731s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F: CONTRADICTION LIVE -- Lena said F,F passed F,L; Ines claims F,F forced. If Lena true -> Ines voluntary F = top suspect; if Ines true -> Lena lied. R3 Rosa clean (3rd clean gov incl R1). R4 Ines+Otto L (if Ines guilty, cover). R5 Greta-Nadia F; my hand F,F forced -- no veto at 2F, no discretion. GRETA CASE public: silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; peek theater; exec target Ines=witness. NEW POINT t=now: Greta's L,F,F and F,F,F are mutually exclusive -- one version is a deliberate lie, and the switch happened only after Rosa named her hand first. That timing is itself evidence. Dropped me after R6 cross-check. R6: my F,L,F discard F pass L,F; Otto reported L,F discard F = MATCH, publicly closed. No peek power left. Points already aloud: Greta F,F,F timing, exec-target-witness, peek theater, R2 contradiction. Open Qs unanswered: Ines owes reconciliation of 'forced' vs Lena's specific F,L pass; Greta owes which hand is real and why it changed. Current gov Rosa+Otto: both clean records -- voting Ja.
vote round 716s
I'm President with Rosa as Chancellor; my own record is clean (R4, R6 Liberal enacts) and Rosa's record is clean too (R1, R3 Liberal governments). Both of us have pledged full disclosure. A Ja is clearly correct -- a Nein would be self-sabotage and risks tracker escalation. Greta remains my top suspect: F,F,F claim surfaced only after Rosa named L,F,F, and the hand story never explains passing two Fascists when discarding one was available. Lena vs Ines Round 2 contradiction still unresolved. I'll keep pressing those post-vote.
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L passed F,L; Ines claims got F,F -- one lying, unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/me->L clean. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal' announced late; exec target Ines. Hand story explains draw not PASS. Term-limit defense for not nominating me checks out (Boris verified). R6 Nadia/me->L, hands matched word-for-word. SUSPECTS: Greta top; Lena unpeeked + R2 contradiction; Ines R2 unresolved. OWED: Greta -- why silent on Otto-Liberal peek through whole Lena/Ines fight (Boris t=113); Lena/Ines R2 resolution. ALREADY SAID: peek-fires-once, hold-pledge standard, pre-draw composition impossible, pass-discretion point, term-limit answer fine don't relitigate.
president_discard failed: timeout
bid round 794s
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F: contradiction LIVE (Lena says passed F,L; Ines says got two F). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta late-claimed F,F,F after Rosa named L,F,F; broke hold-pledge; exec target=Ines. R6 Nadia(F,L,F) matches Otto => NADIA CLEARED, R5 Fascist points at Greta alone. Suspects: Greta TOP; then Lena-vs-Ines pair. NEW this window: Nadia directly demanded Greta's R5 peek target/result (t=2); Greta's reply (t=1) ignored it entirely and re-argued R5 hand -- dodge = evidence. Said aloud already: pledge-breaks as tells, Greta timing, Nadia verified, both-trap branches, endorsed Otto/Rosa pledge, asked Otto pre-commit R8 peek to Greta. Owed: Greta owes peek answer.
bid round 78s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted. R2 dispute live: Lena claims F,F,L passed F,L / Ines claims received F,F -- one lying. R5 Greta-Nadia F; Greta silent pre-pass, F,F,F claim only after my challenge; exec target Ines. R6 Nadia-Otto L. Suspects: Greta > Ines/Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. This window already said: accepted nom + mutual publish-cards pledge; demanded Otto state 3-card comp pre-pass (he pledged to); pressed Greta on R5 silence timing; conditional Ja; open Qs owed by Greta (what clears her if Ines truthful) and Nadia (broken R5 hold-pledge). Nadia asked Greta peek question; Greta answered 'Otto, Liberal' only now -- Nadia says no such announcement in record, so Greta's story is retrofitted: strengthens Greta as top suspect. Still nothing new for me to add this turn -- silent.
speak round 78s
Game over, liberals won. Nothing to press; give a gracious closing remark.
GAME OVER, liberals won 5-2. R2 Lena/Ines contradiction unresolved (Lena F,F,L passed F,L vs Ines F,F). R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta's late Otto-Liberal peek claim = top suspect. R6 Nadia hand cross-checked clean. R7: I drew L,L,F, discarded F, passed Rosa L+F (she confirmed). Closing remarks done; nothing left to press.
bid round 74s
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F: LIVE contradiction (Lena F,L vs Ines F,F) -- one lying. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta NOW claims peek=Otto/Liberal (t=2 this window), Nadia says no such announcement in record -- late, unverifiable claim; still top suspect. Exec target R5=Ines. R6 Nadia(F,L,F)=Otto => NADIA CLEARED. Suspects: Greta TOP; Lena-vs-Ines pair next. Said aloud: pledge-breaks as tells, Greta timing, both-trap branches on Lena, endorsed Otto/Rosa mutual disclosure, asked Otto pre-commit nominee. Owed: Ines/Lena owe Round 2 reconciliation. Current gov Otto/Rosa: both have Lib track records (Rosa R1/R3, Otto R4/R6) -- I support this vote.