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Player 4 (Greta)
hitler · fascist · oxalpha · 155 calls
bid round 16s
R1 open floor. I'm Hitler. No info yet. Plan: play liberal, stay quiet early, build trust.
bid round 13s
R1 open floor. I'm fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claim liberal. No info yet. Said: keep nominations clean, no early chaos. Watch who Boris nominates; Greta as chancellor is risky until 3 fasc policies.
bid round 13s
R1: I'm President, no info yet. Plan: nominate Rosa. Watch who volunteers and vote patterns. No claims made.
bid round 14s
R1, no info yet. No policies/votes/nominations. Watch: Boris's first chancellor pick, vote records. Said nothing yet.
speak round 110s
Round 1, nothing to gain by noise. Otto asked Rosa a good question; I can add a light supportive point without repeating. Keep quiet, vote Ja, build trust.
R1. I'm Hitler. Plan: quiet liberal act, vote Ja on Boris/Rosa. Said: asked Rosa for full 3-card disclosure, not just enacted card. No suspicions yet, no info.
bid round 13s
R1. Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. Said already: judge govts on merits, stay neutral. Boris pres/Rosa chan -- fine, no push needed. Greta chancellor risky until 3+ fasc policies; don't push her early. Rosa overpromising transparency -- note if she enacts fasc policy later, her 'treat me as suspect' line gives cover to deflect. Nothing new to add; stay silent.
bid round 110s
said: That's exactly what I wanted, Rosa -- commitment's on record now, so if the enact contradicts it we'll all know. I'm a Ja.
R1. Hitler. Plan: quiet liberal act, Ja on Boris/Rosa. Asked Rosa for full 3-card disclosure; she committed (t=1-2). Otto also asked. Nothing else on record from me. No suspicions/info yet.
vote round 17s
First government, no info. Rosa committed to full 3-card disclosure, which I asked for. Voting Ja builds my liberal credibility; a Nein here would be baseless and risks auto-policy. If Rosa enacts Fascist later, I can pivot suspicion onto her -- useful cover for me.
R1: Hitler (me). Voted Ja Boris/Rosa. Made point: demanded full 3-card disclosure from Rosa; she committed on record. No suspicions yet. Watch whether Rosa honors full-disclosure pledge; if she breaks it or enacts F, push suspicion her way.
bid round 19s
R1: enacted L from F,L hand (disclosed truthfully: 2 cards from Boris, discarded F). Pledge kept. Watch: Otto & Greta never answered whether pledge earned their Ja — they owe me. R1 vote 7-0 Ja (baseline). Track Boris's next nom, who sits in Fas-enacting govs, anyone contradicting my disclosure. Points already made: accountability pledge, full disclosure, Fas-under-me = evidence.
bid round 25s
R1: fascist w/ Lena; Hitler=Greta. Claim lib. Boris-Rosa gov, Liberal enacted -- fine, trust-building. Rosa answered my discard pledge question. No suspicions yet. Points already made: ok w/ R1 result, discard pledge ask. Nothing new to add this window.
bid round 214s
R1: L enacted from Boris hand (he disclosed 2 cards, I discarded F — truth told). Pledge kept. Otto & Greta still owe answer: did my pledge earn their Ja? R1 vote 7-0 Ja baseline. Watch: Boris's R2 nom, who sits in Fas-enacting govs, contradictions of my disclosure. Points made: accountability pledge, full disclosure, Fas-under-me = evidence. Nothing new this window — hold.
bid round 28s
R1: I'm Pres, nominated Rosa, 7-0 pass. My hand FFL; discarded one F, passed [F,L]. Rosa's claim (discarded F, enacted L) matches exactly -- consistent, no flag. Otto's probe answered. Now watch Lena's nomination choice and her hand claims. Don't repeat: my Ja vote, Rosa pledge endorsement, my hand disclosure.
bid round 212s
R1: fascist w/ Lena; Hitler=Greta. Claim lib. R1 Boris-Rosa -> Liberal, good cover. Rosa answered Otto's discard question (F+L, discarded F). Points already made: fine w/ R1 result, asked discard pledge. Nothing new to add; stay quiet this window.
bid round 25s
R1: I was Pres, nominated Rosa, 7-0. My hand FFL; discarded F, passed [F,L]. Rosa's claim matched my hand exactly -- clean. R2: Lena Pres, picked Ines, committed to full three-card + discard standard pre-reveal. My asks to Lena ANSWERED. Already said publicly: Rosa pledge endorsement, Ja vote rationale. New ask this window: Ines pre-commits to disclosing composition+discard before reveal. No suspects yet -- no Fascist enacted.
bid round 25s
R1: Boris+Rosa enacted Liberal -- both clean. Rosa gave full comp (2 cards: F+L, discarded F), consistent. R2: Lena pres, nominee Ines, committed to Rosa-standard disclosure. Nothing new from me yet. Watch: Ines gov's card claim vs deck odds (14 draw, 2 discards). No open questions owed to me.
vote round 211s
Ines pledged full pre-reveal disclosure; nothing suspicious from Lena/Ines. Voting Ja keeps me looking like a cooperative liberal and builds credibility for my later Chancellor run. No need to speak.
R1: Hitler (me). Voted Ja Boris/Rosa. Rosa's hand (F+L, disc F) matches Liberal enact + Boris confirmed -- clean. Otto pressed same disclosure point. R2: Lena pres/Ines chanc; both pledged pre-reveal full disclosure. Voted Ja. Points already made: asked Rosa for full 3-card composition (she complied). Plan: play quiet trustworthy liberal; if nominated chancellor later, vote Ja on self-noms; need 3F enacted before I can win via chancellorship. Don't over-defend fascists.
bid round 210s
R1: Boris pres, Rosa chanc -> Liberal enacted (1L/0F). Rosa disclosed 1F/1L hand only after two presses; Boris confirmed same composition later -- discrepancy RESOLVED, post-reveal disclosure pattern noted. R2: Lena pres, nom Ines; both pledged full pre-reveal disclosure. Otto said: acknowledged Boris's confirmation, conditional Ja for Ines. No suspects yet. Watch: does Ines disclose hand pre-reveal as pledged? If not, flag it. Also note Rosa's disclosure timing if she's nominated again.
bid round 211s
R1: Boris pres, Rosa chanc -> 1L. Rosa disclosed 1F/1L only after presses; Boris confirmed same -- resolved, note disclosure-timing pattern. R2: Lena pres, Ines chanc -> F policy enacted. Both pledged pre-reveal disclosure before vote; Otto voted Ja on that basis. NOW: demand Ines state her 3-card draw + discard, and Lena confirm composition. If stories mismatch -> hard suspect. No suspects yet otherwise. Points already made: R1 Boris confirmation acknowledged; conditional Ja to Ines. Open questions: Ines owes full hand disclosure; Lena owes confirmation.
bid round 227s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; her claim matched, Otto confirmed -- clean govt. R2: Lena Pres + Ines Chan, both pledged pre-reveal full composition BEFORE vote; Fascist enacted. Rosa, Otto and I all demanded their hands (t=1,2,3). Awaiting: Lena's 3-card draw, Ines's discard. Analysis when they answer: F+F+x -> Lena discarded L (suspicious); L+L+F -> Ines discarded L (suspicious); F+L+x with F enacted -> Ines discarded L, worst case. Points already made: pledge-demand (twice), R1 hand confirmed, endorsed pledges. Now silent -- wait for their disclosure, don't repeat.
speak round 214s
As Hitler I want calm. Lena/Ines accounts are consistent and unfalsifiable; piling on either gains nothing. Best move: brief neutral remark noting both stories match and the deck was unlucky, keep my liberal credibility. No need to press anyone.
R1: Hitler(me). Ja Boris/Rosa. Rosa disclosed F+L post-press -> Lib enact, clean per Boris confirm. R2: Lena pres/Ines chanc, F enacted. Lena claims drew F,F,L disc L passed 2F; Ines confirms; consistent, unfalsifiable. Me: said accounts match, no contradiction, hold off lynching, judge next gov on pre-reveal disclosure. Already said R1: full 3-card comp standard. Plan: quiet liberal; once 3F enact push own chancellorship for win. Owed answers to me: none.
bid round 224s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; her claim matched, Otto confirmed -- clean govt. R2: Lena Pres + Ines Chan, Fascist enacted. Claims now in: both say Lena drew F,L,F, discarded L, passed F+F to Ines -- hands tied, no choice. Stories mutually consistent, but unverifiable and conveniently exculpatory for BOTH. Suspicion level: moderate, can't convict on it. Points already made out loud: pledge-demand (twice), endorsed pre-vote pledges, R1 hand confirmed clean. NEW angle this turn: hold them accountable going FORWARD -- demand their nominations/voting intentions for next round before the vote, so retroactive excuses get harder. Also flag: two matching confessions is exactly what coordinated fascists would produce; consistency != innocence.
bid round 26s
R1: Boris/Rosa -> 1L. R2: Lena pres, Ines chanc -> F enacted. Lena claims F,L,F drawn, discarded L, passed 2F; Ines matches; Greta corroborated. No contradiction to press. Points already made: R1 Boris ack; conditional Ja to Ines; broken-pledge call; matching-stories demand. Watchlist: Lena, Ines (produced R2 F). Next: scrutinize whoever holds power next; ask pre-reveal pledges from future gov. Silent this window.
bid round 27s
R1: Hitler(me). Ja Boris/Rosa. Rosa F+L post-press -> Lib enact, Boris confirmed. R2: Lena pres/Ines chanc, F enacted. Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F; Ines confirms; I said accounts match, no contradiction. Rosa now asks why I vouched unverifiable hand -- answering: I only endorsed consistency, not truth; noted matched story is exactly what coordinated fascists give (echoed Rosa's own caution). Plan: quiet liberal, push own chancellorship once 3F. Owed answers: none.
speak round 214s
Otto asked why I vouched an unverifiable hand. Answer directly and confidently: I never called them clean -- I noted the accounts matched AND that a matched story proves nothing (I said 'unfalsifiable hand'). That's consistent with Rosa's caution. Stay measured, no new accusations. Goal remains quiet liberal until 3F.
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa -> Lib, Boris confirmed Rosa's hand, clean. R2 Lena/Ines -> F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F; Ines confirms. Otto+Nadia pressed, Nadia dropped it. Rosa warns corroborating pairs prove nothing; demanded discard-F pledge; Lena accepted pledge on record. Otto asked why I vouched pre-accusation -- answered: I flagged matched-story risk myself, not a clean bill. Points made: consistency note + unfalsifiable caveat + this answer. Suspects: none solid; watch Lena next gov (Nadia watching too). Plan: stay liberal-seeming, seek chancellorship once 3F enacted.
bid round 27s
R1: Boris/Rosa -> 1L. R2: Lena pres, Ines chanc -> F enacted. Lena claims F,L,F, discarded L, passed 2F; Ines matches; Greta corroborated unprompted. No contradiction. Points made: Boris ack; conditional Ja on Ines; broken-pledge call; matching-stories demand; Rosa discard-F pledge (Lena accepted); pressed Greta on unprompted vouching. Watchlist: Lena, Ines (R2 F gov), Greta (corroboration). Open: Greta owes answer on why she vouched unverifiable hand. Next: demand pre-reveal discard-F pledge from next power-holder before they act.
bid round 237s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claim F,F,L drawn, L discarded, F+F passed -- consistent, unverifiable. Points made out loud: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, asked Lena next pick NOW, asked Ines one-of-each hypothetical. NEW: endorsed Ines's pledge publicly as workable; pressed Lena again for next Chancellor name + commitment not to repeat Ines if this govt fails. If Lena/Ines produce a 2nd Fascist policy together, both near-certain fascists -- say so now to lock it in. Owed answers: Lena (next pick). Suspects: Lena+Ines moderate-high after F policy; Otto unremarkable so far; watch Otto's pivot target.
bid round 291s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa -> Lib, clean. R2 Lena/Ines -> F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F; Ines confirms. Otto+Nadia pressed, Nadia dropped it. Rosa's discard-F pledge accepted by Lena on record. Otto challenged my 'vouch' -- answered: I flagged matched-story risk myself, not a clean bill. Already said: consistency note + unfalsifiable caveat + that answer -- don't repeat. Suspects: none solid; watch Lena next gov (Nadia watching too). Plan: stay liberal-seeming, seek chancellorship once 3F enacted.
bid round 330s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover story F,L/F/F forced enact, corroborated by Greta. THREAT: Rosa exposed Lena (Pres) CHOSE to pass 2F -- 'deck decided' false for Presidents; I deflected: choice reveals nothing about me + pressed Rosa on her unanswered Greta question. Rosa owes answer re: Greta vouching. Points already made: pre-reveal pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, defense of Greta, accepted discard pledge, matched-stories weak evidence. Next goals: slight distance from Lena, keep pledge credibility, push Greta chancellorship once 3F+, occasional Lib enact for cover. Watch Nadia/Otto scrutiny patterns.
bid round 320s
R1: Boris/Rosa -> 1L. R2: Lena/Ines -> F. Both claim F,L,F, stories match, unfalsifiable. Points made: Boris ack; conditional Ja on Ines; matching-stories demand; Rosa discard-F pledge; pressed Greta. Watchlist: Lena, Ines (R2 F gov). Open: Ines owes answer to Rosa's Q (did she ask Lena to discard a Fascist). Rosa nominating Nadia -- fine by me, no F on Nadia's record. Next: watch vote; if Nadia gov enacts F, Nadia joins watchlist.
bid round 38s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover: F,L/F/F forced enact, corroborated by Greta. Rosa exposed Lena CHOSE to pass 2F ('deck decided' false); deflected + pressed Rosa on unanswered Greta-vouch question -- still owed. NOW answering Rosa's direct Q: claimed I DID ask Lena for a choice pre-pass, she said no safe split existed. Points made: pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, Greta defense, accepted discard pledge, matched-stories weak. Goals: slight distance from Lena, keep pledge credibility, push Greta chancellorship at 3F+, occasional Lib enact for cover. Watch Nadia/Otto scrutiny patterns; Rosa nominating Nadia this round.
bid round 352s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean (Lib). R2: Lena claims F,L,F, disc L, passed 2F to Ines; Ines says she ASKED for split, Lena DECLINED -> forced Fascist enact. Top suspect: Lena (R2). Asked Lena 3x why she refused split -- unanswered, STOP asking unless she answers. Greta corroborated hand (unverifiable); Otto pressed her. I'm Chancellor nominee under Rosa; pledge on record: one of each -> discard F, state pre-reveal. Rosa's R1 gov clean. If elected: follow pledge, disclose pre-reveal. Nothing new to add this window -- silent.
bid round 313s
R1: Boris/Rosa -> 1L. R2: Lena/Ines -> F. Both claim F,L,F, stories match, unfalsifiable. Points made: Boris ack; conditional Ja on Ines; matching-stories demand; Rosa discard-F pledge; pressed Greta; called out Nadia for fixating on Lena only -- Ines equally suspect and quieter. NEW now: asked Nadia pre-vote what she does with a 2F hand (veto pledge?) and whether she trusts Ines enough to seat her later. Watchlist: Lena, Ines (R2 F gov). Open: Ines owes answer to Rosa's Q (did she ask Lena to discard a Fascist); Lena owes Nadia's split question. No F record on Nadia -- leaning Ja unless enact betrays.
bid round 310s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean (Lib). R2: Lena claims F,L,F disc L passed 2F; Ines says she ASKED for split pre-pass, Lena says never happened -> direct contradiction, one lying; both top suspects. NEW: Ines now deflecting to 'judge Nadia's enact' instead of resolving R2 contradiction -- noted publicly. My pledge on record as nominee under Rosa: one of each -> discard F, state pre-reveal. Rosa's R1 gov clean. If elected: follow pledge. Already said this window: contradiction point -- don't repeat verbatim.
speak round 315s
I'm Hitler; need to look liberal and trustworthy. Rosa keeps re-asking her Greta question -- I've answered twice, no need again. Nadia accepted the pledge; supporting this government costs nothing and builds credibility. A short endorsement plus noting the Lena/Ines contradiction should be settled by enactments, not re-litigation.
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F; Ines confirms + later claims she 'asked Lena for split' (contradicts Lena). Otto says Ines lying. Rosa keeps re-asking me why I vouched (answered 2x, don't repeat). R3 gov: Rosa/Nadia, Nadia pledged discard-F-if-one-of-each + full pre-reveal comp per Otto. My stance: endorsed Nadia, Ja. Suspects: none solid; watch Lena/Ines disclosures next gov. Plan: stay liberal-seeming, seek chancellorship once 3F enacted.
bid round 36s
R1 truth: Boris(P)-me(C), F+L drawn, discarded F, enacted L. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L; Lena discarded L. Ines claims pre-pass split request; Lena denies -> contradiction, one lying. Suspects: Lena > Ines > Greta. Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. Owed me: Lena card-order Q (3x dodge); Greta vouch rationale (3x). Nadia pledge accepted on record. My pledge as P: state draw pre-reveal, discard F if drawn. Points public: corroboration proves nothing; broken pledges=evidence; presidents choose discard; matched stories=coordinated fascists; Lena silence-as-answer; voting Ja on Nadia gov.
vote round 336s
Nadia pledged full pre-reveal disclosure and has a clean record; I already endorsed her publicly. A Nein would only draw attention and risks a failed election. Ja is the liberal-consistent, credibility-preserving play. Rosa keeps re-asking her vouching question; I've answered twice and won't repeat.
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F (Lib 3rd pos); Ines confirms + claims she asked Lena for split; Lena denies -> live contradiction, Otto+Boris say Ines lying. Rosa keeps re-asking me why I vouched (answered 2x, won't repeat). R3 gov Rosa/Nadia: Nadia pledged full pre-reveal comp; I endorsed her, voting Ja. Watch Nadia's actual enact vs pledge. Suspects: none solid; Lena/Ines contradiction unresolved. Plan: liberal-seeming, seek chancellorship once 3F enacted. Points already made: matched-stories-not-evidence; Nadia pledge endorsement.
bid round 37s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claimed F,F,L drawn, L discarded. CONTRADICTION: Ines says she asked Lena pre-pass for split; Lena says never happened. One lying -> both top suspects. Already said out loud: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, discard-pledge endorsement, pressed Lena next pick, called Ines's story retroactive, pledged Ja to Nadia, asked Rosa+Nadia commit BEFORE vote, flagged Ines dodging via pivot to Nadia. Otto now pressing Nadia full-composition pledge + targeting Ines as liar (consistent w/ Lena). Owed: Rosa (Otto's Greta question), Nadia (pre-vote composition pledge). Vote plan: Ja on Rosa/Nadia. Watch: Greta neutral framing; whether Nadia pledges pre-reveal. If Lena+Ines produce 2nd Fascist together -> both near-certain fascists.
bid round 310s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 locked story: F,F,L drawn, Liberal discarded, passed F,F -- matches Ines; card-position answered t=108, do not reopen. Split-request contradiction live: I deny request happened; Otto+Boris side with me, Ines claims she asked. Deflection target: Otto (conditional pledges = pressure theater). Voted Ja on Rosa-Nadia (rationale said twice -- silent). Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Boris, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta from chancellery until 3F enacted. Open Qs owed me: none.
speak round 316s
Rosa has pressed me four times on why I 'vouched.' I must give a direct, specific answer to stop the pressure. Truthful-ish framing: I never vouched, I observed the accounts matched and flagged unfalsifiability in the same breath -- already said this at t=107. New angle: state plainly that matching accounts + no contradiction was all I had, and I'd say the same about any pair; also note Nadia's clean enact under pledge supports judging governments by disclosure, not by unverifiable hands. Keep it short, non-defensive.
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F; Ines says she asked for split, Lena denies -> live contradiction; Otto+Boris lean against Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Nadia pledged full comp pre-reveal, delivered Lib as pledged; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F pass 1each. Suspects: none solid; Lena/Ines contradiction unresolved. Said out loud: matched-stories-not-evidence (t47), clarified not-a-vouch (t107), endorsed Nadia pledge+Ja (t103). NOW answered Rosa's vouch question definitively: judged on consistency+outcomes, not unverifiable hands. Plan: stay liberal-seeming, seek chancellorship once 3F enacted. Watch: who Rosa/Nadia target next; Otto anti-Ines lean.
speak round 320s
I've answered Rosa's vouch question definitively; repeating it would look defensive. Best move: a fresh, neutral-sounding observation that adds scrutiny elsewhere without creating risk for me. Otto has never held office yet is the loudest accuser and picked a side (Ines) without verifiable evidence -- probing him is safe, liberal-seeming, and shifts heat off me.
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F (Lib pos 3); Ines claims she asked for split pre-pass, Lena denies -> live contradiction; Otto+Boris lean anti-Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F pass 1each; Nadia pledged+delivered Lib enact, cleared by Rosa. Suspects: none solid; Lena/Ines contradiction unresolved. Said out loud: matched-stories-not-evidence (t47), not-a-vouch clarification (t107), endorsed Nadia pledge+Ja (t103), final vouch answer to Rosa (t23). NEW this turn: probed Otto -- never in government, loudest accuser, asked if he'd accept Chancellor nom. Plan: stay liberal-seeming, seek chancellorship once 3F enacted. Watch: Nadia's next pick; whether Otto answers my question.
speak round 315s
I've already spoken twice this window (vouch clarification + Otto probe). Adding more risks over-talking. A brief forward-looking point is safe: at 1F enacted, the next Fascist policy unlocks the membership-peek power -- flagging transparency expectations there looks liberal and sets up future cover. Keep it one sentence.
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F (Lib pos 3); Ines claims she asked split pre-pass, Lena denies -> live contradiction; Otto+Boris lean anti-Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F pass 1each; Nadia pledged+delivered, cleared by Rosa. Suspects: none solid; Lena/Ines contradiction unresolved. Said: matched-stories-not-evidence (t47), not-a-vouch x2 (t107,t23), endorsed Nadia pledge+Ja (t103), probed Otto re never-in-govt+Chancellor nom (t30) -- NO ANSWER YET from Otto. NEW this turn: flagged peek-power transparency standard for next Fascist enact. Plan: stay liberal-seeming, seek chancellorship once 3F enacted. Watch: Otto's answer to me; Nadia's next pick.
bid round 36s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L (Boris confirmed 1F/1L pass). R2 Lena/Ines->F; both claim F,F,L matching; Lena admits forcing Ines with two F's. R3: Ines claims split-request late under pressure; Lena denies it ever happened; MY CALL OUT LOUD: Ines lying. Also said out loud: pressed Greta re vouching; named Ines liar; demanded Nadia full-composition pre-reveal commit; committed Ja on Rosa/Nadia contingent on pre-reveal disclosure. R3 Rosa/Nadia delivered L as promised -- Rosa/Nadia look clean so far. Open debts: Greta owes basis for blessing hand; Rosa owes why she defended Greta early; Nadia owes full-composition commit + position-style answers (partially redeemed by delivering L). Watchlist: Ines top, Lena second.
bid round 39s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 locked story: F,F,L drawn, Liberal discarded, passed F,F -- matches Ines; card-position answered t=108, do not reopen. Split-request contradiction live: I deny request happened; Otto+Boris side with me, Ines claims she asked. Deflection target: Otto (conditional pledges = pressure theater). Voted Ja on Rosa-Nadia (rationale said twice -- silent). Rosa-Nadia now publicly clean via matched disclosures -- accepted out loud this window, do not re-litigate. Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Boris, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta from chancellery until 3F enacted. Open Qs owed me: none.
bid round 311s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 locked story: F,F,L drawn, Liberal discarded, passed F,F -- matches Ines; card-position answered t=108, do not reopen. Split-request contradiction live: I deny request happened; Otto+Boris side with me, Ines claims she asked. Deflection target: Otto (conditional pledges = pressure theater). Voted Ja on Rosa-Nadia (rationale said twice -- silent). Rosa-Nadia publicly clean via matched disclosures -- accepted out loud, do not re-litigate. This window: endorsed Greta's pre-reveal peek-disclosure standard + pressed Otto on dodging chancellor pledge. Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Boris, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta from chancellery until 3F enacted. Open Qs owed me: none.
speak round 319s
Nadia directly asked whether I'd accept a Chancellor nomination under the full pre-reveal draw pledge. Answering yes builds trust and keeps me nominable for later when 3 Fascist policies are up and a chancellorship could win the game. Keep it short, no new angles.
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F (Lib in 3rd pos); Ines claims split-request pre-pass, Lena denies -> live contradiction; Otto+Boris lean anti-Ines; Nadia believes Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F pass 1each; Nadia pledged+delivered, cleared by Rosa/Ines/Lena. NOW: answered Nadia YES to chancellor nom under full pre-reveal pledge (matches Otto's t51). Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence (t47), not-a-vouch x3, endorsed Nadia pledge (t103), probed Otto re never-in-govt (t30), peek-power disclosure standard (t36). Plan: stay liberal-seeming, accept noms under pledge; real win = elected Chancellor once 3F enacted. Watch: Nadia's next pick (she said Otto), Lena/Ines contradiction resolution.
speak round 320s
Claims phase after R3 Liberal enact. I've answered the vouch question repeatedly; repeating is worse than silence. Nadia said she'd nominate Otto if President, and Otto accepted the full pre-reveal pledge (t51). A short endorsement of judging Otto's enact on its merits keeps me liberal-seeming without new risk. Avoid re-litigating anything.
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena F,F,L disc L pass 2F (Lib 3rd pos); Ines split-request claim vs Lena denial = live contradiction; Otto+Boris anti-Ines, Nadia believes Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F pass 1each; Nadia cleared. NOW: committed YES to chancellor nom under full pre-reveal draw pledge (matches Otto t51). Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence (t47), not-a-vouch x3 final (t23), endorsed Nadia pledge (t103), probed Otto never-in-govt (t30), peek-power disclosure standard (t36), endorsed Nadia->Otto nom plan. Plan: stay liberal-seeming, accept noms under pledge; real win = elected Chancellor once 3F enacted. Watch: Nadia's pick (said Otto), Lena/Ines resolution, who holds peek after next F policy.
speak round 370s
I'm Hitler, playing liberal. Nadia is cleared, Lena/Ines dispute live, Otto and Boris lean anti-Ines. I've already committed to a Chancellor nomination under the full pre-reveal draw pledge. Nothing new to defend. A short forward-looking remark keeps me engaged without spending credibility: press Nadia to lock in her President pick and apply the same pre-reveal standard to the peek power when it unlocks. Don't repeat the vouch topic or the Otto-never-in-government point.
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L, Lib 3rd pos; Ines split-request claim vs Lena denial = live contradiction; Otto+Boris anti-Ines, Nadia believes Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F pass 1each; Nadia cleared by enact. Committed YES to Chancellor nom under full pre-reveal draw pledge (matches Otto t51). Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence (t47), not-a-vouch final x3 (t23), endorsed Nadia pledge (t103), probed Otto never-in-govt (t30), peek-disclosure standard (t36, t88), endorsed Nadia->Otto nom. Plan: stay liberal-seeming, accept noms under pledge; real win = elected Chancellor once 3F enacted. Watch: Nadia's President pick, Lena/Ines resolution, who holds peek after next F policy.
bid round 311s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claimed F,F,L. CONTRADICTION: Ines claims pre-pass split request to Lena; Lena denies. One lying -> both top suspects. Otto backs Lena vs Ines; Greta flagged Otto never in govt + first to call Ines liar. R3 Rosa/Nadia enacted Liberal -> both look clean. Voted Ja Rosa/Nadia as pledged. Already said publicly: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, discard-pledge endorsement, called Ines story retroactive reconstruction, pledged Ja to Nadia, flagged contradiction. Now asking Nadia directly to pick a side on the contradiction -- her answer is evidence either way. Watch: another Fascist from Lena+Ines govt -> near-certain fascists. Next F policy unlocks peek -> demand named check target announced before use.
bid round 39s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover story F,F/L forced + LIE split-request claim vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar. Hold story, distance from Lena. Nadia now says she believes me (t=1) citing Lena's triple dodge of Rosa's card-position Q -- good, reinforce + pivot suspicion to Lena. Points made (don't repeat): pledge rationale, disclosure standard, discard pledge, matched-stories weak, split-request claim, Ja votes, pre-reveal peek standard. OPEN: Rosa owes answer re early Greta vouch-adjacency (unanswered). R3: Rosa-Nadia 7-0, Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F/L, consistent. Goals: rebuild credibility, Greta chancellorship at 3F+, occasional Lib cover. Watch Otto/Boris hostility toward me; Otto pledged pre-reveal disclosure, Nadia may nominate him.
bid round 38s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claimed F,F,L. CONTRADICTION: Ines claims pre-pass split request to Lena; Lena denies. One lying -> both top suspects. Otto backs Lena vs Ines; Greta flagged Otto never in govt + first to call Ines liar. R3 Rosa/Nadia enacted Liberal -> both look clean; I voted Ja as pledged. Nadia publicly sided with Ines -> her credibility tied to Ines's story. Already said publicly: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, discard-pledge endorsement, called Ines story retroactive reconstruction, pledged Ja to Nadia, flagged contradiction, asked Nadia to pick a side (answered: Ines). NEW: asking Nadia WHY she believes Ines over Lena -- what specific evidence makes Ines's version more credible than a flat denial? If answer is vague, treat Nadia as covering for Ines. Watch: another F from Lena+Ines govt -> near-certain fascists. Next F policy unlocks peek -> demand named check target announced before use.
bid round 37s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover story F,F/L forced + LIE split-request claim vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar. Hold story, distance from Lena. Nadia believes me citing Lena's triple dodge of Rosa's card-position Q. Points made: pledge rationale, disclosure standard, discard pledge, matched-stories weak, split-request claim, Ja votes, pre-reveal peek standard. OPEN: Rosa owes answer re early Greta vouch-adjacency. R3: Rosa-Nadia 7-0 Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F/L consistent. Now: Greta pushing full pre-reveal draw+peek disclosure -- publicly endorse it, redirect scrutiny to Lena's unanswered card-position dodge. Watch Otto/Boris hostility toward me.
bid round 39s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; both claim F,F,L; Lena admits forcing Ines w/ two F's. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L, pre-reveal disclosure, clean. MY CALLS OUT LOUD: Ines lying re split-request contradiction; pressed Greta on vouch rationale (denies vouching); pledged Chancellor nom w/ full pre-reveal draw disclosure; pushed pre-announcement of peek target before Fascist policy 2 unlocks; accepted Nadia's intent to nominate me next. Rosa now holding me to pledge -- acknowledged. OPEN DEBTS: Rosa owes why she defended Greta early (Ines also asked, unanswered). Watchlist: Ines top, Lena second (forced F enact + late card-position answer). Greta's 'Otto sat out every gov' = weak, rotation/term limits.
bid round 438s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story locked (F,F,L, Lib 3rd, discarded Lib, passed F,F) -- do NOT reopen. R3 Rosa-Nadia = clean Liberal enact, publicly endorsed. Nadia t=64: believes Ines over me on split dispute -- hostile-leaning, watch her. Greta pushing pre-reveal draw pledges + peek-disclosure standard (theater); Otto pledged same. If Pres next: nominate Otto or Boris, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta out of chancellery until 3F. Next F policy unlocks membership peek -- holder should claim liberal result if possible. Open Qs owed me: none. Points already made: answered card-position Q (t=108), defended Greta re vouch (t=114), called Rosa-Nadia clean. Window long (88 utts); stay quiet unless addressed.
bid round 47s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L; Ines split-request claim vs Lena denial = live contradiction; Otto+Boris anti-Ines, Nadia believes Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F pass 1each; Nadia enact clears her. R4: Ines pres, nominating Otto w/ full pre-reveal disclosure pledge; Ines pressing Rosa on old Greta-defense question. Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence (t47), not-a-vouch x3 (t23), endorsed Nadia pledge (t103), probed Otto never-in-govt (t30), peek-disclosure standard (t36,t88), endorsed Nadia->Otto nom, my own Chancellor pledge under full pre-reveal draw disclosure, Boris's F,F,L logic sound but one forced pass isn't a conviction. Plan: stay liberal-seeming, accept noms under pledge; real win = elected Chancellor once 3F enacted. Watch: Lena/Ines resolution, who holds peek after next F policy.
bid round 415s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena claims F,F,L, passed 2F (forced); Ines says asked pre-pass for split, Lena denies -> contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x then said Lib 3rd. I publicly sided with Ines (t=57). R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L pre-reveal, passed me F,L; I discarded F, Liberal enacted, cleared. Suspects: Lena top. Greta pledged (t=82), Otto pledged (t=51). COMMITMENTS: if President, nominate Otto; peek-power holder must pre-state target pre-reveal; answered Ines: Lena nominable only under full pledge. NOW: adding my voice to Rosa's pledge demand on Ines -- if she dodges, that's a flag on her Round 2 government with Lena.
bid round 49s
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L, FORCED Ines -> liberal Pres discards F; Lena top suspect on pass choice alone. Nadia sided w/ Ines; Otto backs Lena unprompted (Greta flagged eagerness). R3 Rosa/Nadia Liberal clean, Rosa disclosed F,F/L pre-reveal. Said already: Ines story retroactive; Lena/Ines contradiction unfalsifiable but checkable forced-pass point made; pledged Ja to Nadia; endorsed Otto nominee; Nadia pick-side answered; demanded Ines take President pledge (discard any F, full composition pre-reveal) before finalizing Otto nomination. Watch: next F unlocks peek -> demand named target+result pre-use. If Lena in govt again and F lands -> near-certain fascist. Greta/Otto both pledged full disclosure if nominated.
bid round 48s
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L; Ines forced->liberal Pres discards F. Lena top suspect. Nadia sided w/ Ines; Otto backs Lena unprompted (Greta flagged). R3 Rosa/Nadia Liberal clean, Rosa disclosed pre-reveal. Said already: Ines story retroactive; forced-pass checkable point; pledged Ja to Nadia; endorsed Otto nominee; demanded Ines President pledge (discard any F + full composition pre-reveal) -- Ines STILL SILENT as of t=2. Rosa now asking Otto: will he enact 2 Fs from unpledged Pres or call out? Otto owes answer. Greta/Otto pledged full disclosure if nominated. Watch: next F unlocks peek -> demand named target+result pre-use. If Lena in govt again and F lands -> near-certain fascist.
vote round 414s
As Hitler my win path needs Liberal trust and eventually a Chancellor seat at 3+ Fascist policies. This government (Ines/Otto) has both parties on record with full pre-reveal disclosure pledges; voting Ja costs nothing and keeps me looking cooperative and consistent with my own pledge stance. A Nein here would need a concrete reason I don't have, and risks the auto-enact. Stay quiet-friendly, keep building credibility.
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L(pos3); Ines split-request claim vs Lena denial = live contradiction; Otto+Boris anti-Ines, Nadia believes Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F. R4: Ines pres nom Otto; both pledged full pre-reveal composition + discard any F; Otto: if passed 2F unpledged he states composition pre-reveal, Ja stands. Voted Ja R4. Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence/not-a-vouch x3, endorsed Nadia pledge, probed Otto never-in-govt, peek-disclosure standard, endorsed Nadia->Otto, my Chancellor pledge under full draw disclosure, Boris F,F,L logic sound but one forced pass isn't conviction. Plan: stay liberal-seeming, accept noms under pledge; win path = elected Chancellor once 3F enacted. Watch: whether Ines/Otto honor pledges post-vote, Lena/Ines contradiction resolution, who holds peek after next F policy.
bid round 47s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story locked (F,F,L, Lib 3rd, discarded Lib, passed F,F) -- do NOT reopen. R3 Rosa-Nadia = clean Liberal enact, publicly endorsed. Nadia t=64: believes Ines over me on split dispute -- hostile-leaning, watch. Rosa pressing Ines (pre-reveal pledge) and Otto (would he enact 2F unpledged); not my fight -- stay out. If Pres next: nominate Otto or Boris, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta out of chancellery until 3F. Next F policy unlocks membership peek -- holder should claim liberal result if possible. Open Qs owed me: none. Points already made: answered card-position Q (t=108), defended Greta re vouch (t=114), called Rosa-Nadia clean. Window very long (95+ utts); silent unless addressed.
bid round 410s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena claims F,F,L, passed 2F (forced); Ines says asked pre-pass for split, Lena denies -> contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x then said Lib 3rd. I publicly sided with Ines. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L pre-reveal, passed me F,L; I discarded F, Liberal enacted, cleared. Suspects: Lena top. Greta pledged, Otto pledged. COMMITMENTS: if President, nominate Otto; peek-power holder must pre-state target pre-reveal; answered Ines: Lena nominable only under full pledge. NOW: Ines pres + Otto nom pending; both restated pledges (Otto t=1, Ines t=2) -- covered, nothing new. Vote Ja.
speak round 414s
Ines asked me three things: my nominee, pledge confirmation, and staying out of Chancellor seat. Answer all three directly and confidently -- agreeing to sit out costs nothing since my win path needs 3 Fascist policies first anyway, and it builds trust. Naming Nadia is safe: she's cleared by her own enact, so nominating her looks liberal and keeps me out of the firing line.
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L(pos3); Ines split-request claim vs Lena denial = live contradiction; Otto+Boris anti-Ines, Nadia believes Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F. R4 Ines/Otto->Lib; both pledged pre-reveal composition+discard; Otto honored? watch. Voted Ja R4. Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence x3, endorsed Nadia pledge, probed Otto never-in-govt, peek-disclosure standard, endorsed Nadia->Otto, my full-draw pledge accepted, Boris F,F,L logic sound but forced pass isn't conviction. NOW: answered Ines -- confirmed pledge, named Nadia as nominee, agreed to stay out of Chancellor seat. Plan: liberal-seeming; win path = elected Chancellor once 3F enacted (currently 1F). Watch: Lena/Ines contradiction resolution, who holds peek after next F policy.
bid round 413s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L(pos3); Ines split-request claim vs Lena denial = live contradiction; Otto+Boris anti-Ines, Nadia believes Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F. R4: Ines pres nom Otto; both pledged full pre-reveal composition + discard any F; Otto: if passed 2F unpledged he states composition pre-reveal, Ja stands. Voted Ja R4. Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence/not-a-vouch x3, endorsed Nadia pledge, probed Otto never-in-govt, peek-disclosure standard, endorsed Nadia->Otto, my Chancellor pledge under full draw disclosure, Boris F,F,L logic sound but one forced pass isn't conviction. Plan: stay liberal-seeming, accept noms under pledge; win path = elected Chancellor once 3F enacted (currently 1F). Watch: whether Ines/Otto honor pledges post-vote, Lena/Ines contradiction resolution, who holds peek after next F policy.
bid round 411s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres+Otto chan 7-0, disclosed F,F/L->passed F+L, Otto enacted L -- mutual cover, both cleared. Board 3L/1F; next F policy unlocks peek power -- if in govt then, claim check pre-reveal on liberal-plausible target. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F enacted. NEXT ROUND PRESIDENT = GRETA (seat order) -- steer her nominee toward Otto/Lena-safe targets. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek disclosure standard, Nadia nominability Q (answered), Rosa/Greta answer (settled), refuse-to-sit-with list Q (partially answered by Nadia), Greta nominee+pledge Q (t=3, unanswered). Watch who attacks my R4 disclosure hardest.
bid round 425s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres+Otto chan 7-0, disclosed F,F/L->passed F+L, Otto enacted L -- mutual cover, both cleared. Board 3L/1F; next F policy unlocks peek power -- if in govt then, claim check pre-reveal on liberal-plausible target. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F enacted. NEXT ROUND PRESIDENT = GRETA (seat order) -- steer her nominee toward Otto/Lena-safe targets. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek disclosure standard, Nadia nominability Q, Rosa/Greta answer, refuse-to-sit-with list Q, Greta nominee+pledge Q (t=3 unanswered), Otto-clean defense (this window). Watch who attacks my R4 disclosure hardest.
bid round 459s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena F,F,L forced 2F pass; Ines/Lena split-request contradiction; Lena dodged card-position 3x. I sided with Ines publicly. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L pre-reveal, passed me F,L; I discarded F, cleared. R4: Ines+Otto Lib enacted, pledges kept, cleared. Suspects: Lena top. NEW: Boris+Lena pressed Otto with identical Q same turn -- noted publicly already, don't repeat. COMMITMENTS: if President nominate Otto; peek holder must pre-state target+result; answered Ines: Lena nominable only under full pledge. Greta nominating me next round as Chancellor -- no objection stated. Owed to me: nothing open.
bid round 428s
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L -> top suspect; Otto defended Lena unprompted R3 -- asked him why directly (t=1), Lena echoed (t=2), OTTO STILL HASN'T ANSWERED. Nadia t=3 flagged me+Lena asking in sync as suspicious pairing; I should note independent convergence, not back down. R3 Rosa/Nadia Liberal clean. R4 Ines/Otto Liberal clean. Already said: Lena's forced pass from F,F,L is checkable guilt; endorsed Otto nom; demanded Ines pledge (given); asked Greta split-request side + would she refuse Lena govt (Rosa re-asked, unanswered); Nadia answered both: believes Ines, Lena nominable only under pledge. Next F unlocks peek: demand named target+result pre-use. Greta president next, pledged to nominate Nadia.
bid round 47s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L(pos3); Ines split-request claim vs Lena denial = live contradiction; Otto+Boris anti-Ines, Nadia believes Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F. R4 Ines/Otto->Lib; both pledged pre-reveal composition+discard; Otto honored? watch. Voted Ja R4. Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence x3, endorsed Nadia pledge, probed Otto never-in-govt, peek-disclosure standard, endorsed Nadia->Otto, my full-draw pledge accepted, leaning Ines (more specific), won't blanket-refuse Lena govts, judge by disclosure consistency, Boris F,F,L logic sound but forced pass isn't conviction. NOW: Boris named Lena top suspect/Ines secondary on checkable F,F,L fact; Otto/Rosa pressing Boris; Nadia flagging Boris/Lena sync. Nothing new for me -- silent. Plan: liberal-seeming; win path = elected Chancellor once 3F enacted (currently 1F). Watch: who holds peek after next F policy.
nominate_chancellor round 566s
I'm Hitler. I already publicly committed to nominating Nadia, so follow through — consistency builds the trust I need for a later Chancellorship at 3F (currently 1F). Boris demanded my read on the split-request dispute; give a specific, liberal-seeming answer: lean toward Ines's version being more specific, but judge by disclosure consistency rather than conviction. Keep it brief, no new fights.
said: Boris, direct answer as asked: on the split-request dispute I lean Ines -- her account was more specific and she's since matched it with two clean disclosed enacts, while Lena's F,F,L story keeps shifting under pressure. But it's a lean, not a verdict; I judge governments by whether their disclosures match their enacts, and so far only Lena's has failed that test. That's also why I'd sit with her if elected -- refusal proves nothing. Nomination stands: Nadia, as I committed last round.
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L(pos3); Ines split-request claim vs Lena denial = live contradiction; Otto+Boris anti-Ines, Nadia believes Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F. R4 Ines/Otto->Lib, both pledged pre-reveal composition+discard; enact clean. Voted Ja all rounds. Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence x3, endorsed Nadia pledge, probed Otto never-in-govt, peek-disclosure standard, endorsed Nadia->Otto, my full-draw pledge accepted, won't blanket-refuse Lena govts, judge by disclosure consistency, Boris F,F,L logic sound but forced pass isn't conviction. NOW answered Boris: lean Ines (more specific + 2 clean enacts), judge by disclosure match. Nominated Nadia as pledged. Board: 3L/1F, next F unlocks peek -- watch who claims check result. Win path = Chancellor at 3F. Suspects framing: Lena top per Boris/Rosa/Nadia consensus; keep low profile.
bid round 4101s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story LOCKED (drew F,F,L; discarded a Fascist, passed F,L; Ines enacted F) -- do NOT reopen details. Defense line vs Boris/Nadia/Rosa: fascist holding F,F,L discards L; Fascist enact means INES chose it from F,L -- she had a free discard, so 'Ines had no choice' is FALSE, said this t. Boris t=80: me top suspect, Ines secondary. Nadia hostile (believes Ines's side, flagged my question-sync w/ Rosa/Boris). Otto cleared by clean R4 enact; pressed him on R3 'Ines liar' call -- deflected to timing. Greta presidency next: pledged nominate Nadia, stay out of chancellery until 3F, full draw pledge. Next F unlocks peek -- holder claims liberal result pre-reveal. Already said: card-position logic, Greta vouch, Rosa-Nadia clean R3, Otto-Ines clean R4. No open Qs owed me.
speak round 5125s
Boris claims I never answered, but I did: I lean Ines and won't blanket-refuse Lena. Briefly restate the answer exists, add one new angle (Lena's own defense at t=87 actually concedes she enacted a Fascist), then push to vote. Keep low profile; Nadia as Chancellor is fine for me — a Liberal enact keeps trust high and I need 3F before my win path anyway.
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L; Ines/Lena contradiction live. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib (Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F). R4 Ines/Otto->Lib, both pledged pre-reveal. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek -- watch who claims check. Win path: Chancellor at 3F. Said already: lean Ines on split-request (more specific + 2 clean enacts); won't blanket-refuse Lena govts; pledged full pre-reveal draw disclosure + will name check target pre-reveal; nominated Nadia (only clean enact under own disclosure); staying out of Chancellor seat. R5: Boris claims I never answered split-request -- restated answer, added Lena's t=87 concession. Suspect framing: Lena top per consensus; Ines secondary (only voluntary F enact); Otto/Boris anti-Ines, Nadia/Rosa pro-Ines. Keep low profile, vote Ja.
bid round 448s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena F,F,L forced 2F pass (only free discard hers); Ines/Lena contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L, passed me F,L, discarded F, cleared. R4: Ines+Otto Lib enacted, pledges kept, cleared. Suspects: Lena top, Ines secondary. SAID PUBLICLY: siding w/ Ines; Boris+Lena identical simultaneous Q at Otto; Lena's forced pass checkable; Lena's defense=fascist-optimal play; accepted Greta's nomination of me under full pledge; flagged Boris's late t=80 side-pick on split-request dispute. OWED TO ME: Lena still owes why she kept the F in R2. COMMITMENTS: if President nominate Otto; peek holder pre-states target+result; Lena nominable only under full pledge. Next round: Greta President, nominating me.
speak round 558s
Rosa demands a yes/no on pre-pass full 3-card composition; Nadia asked same at t=14. I must say yes -- refusing looks guilty and the pledge is already public from Round 4. If I draw Fascists I'll lie about composition then (uncheckable). Keep it short, vote Ja.
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L; Ines/Lena contradiction live (Lena t=87 vs Rosa t=94). R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib (Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F). R4 Ines/Otto->Lib, both disclosed clean. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek -- whoever claims check, watch consistency. Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F; staying out of Chancellor seat for now. Said publicly: lean Ines on split-request dispute; won't blanket-refuse Lena govts; full pre-reveal draw pledge; will name check target+result pre-reveal; nominated Nadia (only Chancellor with clean enact under own disclosure). R5: re-answered Boris's split-request jab citing Lena t=87 concession. NOW COMMITTED: full 3-card composition stated aloud BEFORE passing Nadia (t=14 Nadia demand + t=26 Rosa yes/no). If I draw F's, lie about composition specifically. Suspects: Lena top per consensus; Ines secondary. Otto/Boris anti-Ines; Nadia/Rosa pro-Ines. Vote Ja.
bid round 539s
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L -> TOP SUSPECT (forced pass, checkable); Rosa agrees only free discard was Lena's. Otto defended Lena unprompted R3, called Ines liar w/o evidence; asked twice (me t=47, Lena t=54), never answered, 'timing' deflection only. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. Said aloud already: Lena forced pass = guilt; Ines secondary; endorsed Otto nom; got Ines pledge; answered Otto's direct Q; answered Nadia t=3 flag. Greta pres now: pledged nominate Nadia + disclosure pledge. OPEN: Greta never gave her side of split-request dispute or whether she'd refuse a Lena govt -- Rosa re-asked, unanswered; pressing again pre-nomination. Next F unlocks peek: demand named target+result pre-use.
bid round 586s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L; Ines/Lena contradiction live. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib (Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F). R4 Ines/Otto->Lib. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek -- watch who claims check. Win path: Chancellor at 3F; staying out of Chancellor seat. Said already: lean Ines on split-request; won't blanket-refuse Lena govts; pledged full pre-reveal draw disclosure + will name check target pre-reveal; nominated Nadia (only clean enact under own disclosure). R5: Boris restated split-request jab; I re-answered + cited Lena t=87 concession. Nadia now demands I commit to full 3-card composition pre-pass: ACCEPTED publicly (t=2 reply pending). Suspects: Lena top per consensus; Ines secondary. Otto/Boris anti-Ines, Nadia/Rosa pro-Ines. Keep low profile, vote Ja.
speak round 521s
Nadia re-asked why I lean Ines. I must answer directly and specifically without repeating myself: frame it as dispute-timing evidence plus note her own list has Lena too. Vote Ja stands.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek. Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F; stay out of Chancellor seat. Public record: lean Ines (split-request dispute framing); won't blanket-refuse Lena govts; full pre-reveal draw pledge incl. naming check target+result; committed to stating full 3-card composition BEFORE passing Nadia; nominated Nadia. If draw has F's, lie specifically about composition. Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L forced enact), Ines secondary (split-request fabrication). Open: none owed to me. Already said: Boris answer re split-request/Lena; Nadia answered twice on Ines-lean rationale -- don't repeat again. Vote Ja.
speak round 519s
All my points are on record; Nadia's question was answered twice. Nothing new to add without repeating. Call for vote briefly or pass. Passing is fine; a tiny nudge to close is safe.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek (must name check target+result pre-reveal). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F; stay out of Chancellor seat. Public record: lean Ines (split-request fabrication framing); won't blanket-refuse Lena govts; full pre-reveal draw pledge incl. check disclosure; COMMITTED to stating full 3-card composition BEFORE passing Nadia -- if draw has F's, lie specifically about composition. Nominated Nadia. Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L forced enact), Ines secondary. Already said: Boris answer re split-request/Lena; Ines-lean rationale x2 to Nadia -- do NOT repeat. Vote Ja.
speak round 57s
All commitments on record, vote pending. Nothing new to add without repeating myself -- stay silent and let the vote happen.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek (must name check target+result pre-reveal). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F; stay out of Chancellor seat. Public record: lean Ines (split-request fabrication framing); won't blanket-refuse Lena govts; full pre-reveal draw pledge incl. check disclosure; COMMITTED to stating full 3-card composition BEFORE passing Nadia -- if draw has F's, lie specifically about composition. Nominated Nadia. Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L forced enact), Ines secondary. Already said: Boris answer re split-request/Lena; Ines-lean rationale x2 to Nadia -- do NOT repeat. Vote Ja.
bid round 55s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; Nadia enacted L => clean-ish. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L. R4: Ines(P)+Otto(C) enacted L. Suspects: Lena > Ines > Greta. Clean-ish: Otto, Nadia, Boris(?). ON RECORD: t=2 point (F,F,L president discards L, so F enactment indicts Lena not Ines); Nadia's Boris-late-siding flag. RESOLVED: Greta answered both owed Qs (t=1): leans Ines, won't blanket-refuse Lena govt. NEW: Nadia demands Greta pre-commit full 3-card reveal before passing -- endorse this, apply to Greta as President. Greta nominated Nadia as pledged: matches. If peek power hits later, demand pre-reveal target+result. Plan: vote Ja on Greta-Nadia.
bid round 510s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admitted F,F/L forced pass (TOP suspect). Rosa's t=2: only free discard was Lena's -- she chose to force F enact. Ines secondary. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L clean; disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. On record: split-request call vs Ines, pre-reveal disclosure pledge, refuse-to-sit-with-Lena stance. Boris agrees Lena top, Ines secondary. Greta committed: full 3-card composition stated aloud before passing Nadia anything. NEW: Nadia still hasn't answered Rosa's t=2 question (hold enact if no pre-pass reveal). Asked Greta pre-vote to commit: if F enacted under her/Nadia, announce peek target BEFORE seeing result and disclose fully after. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd, Boris mild. Peek power unlocks next F policy.
bid round 518s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek (must name check target+result pre-reveal). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F; stay out of Chancellor seat. Public record: lean Ines (split-request fabrication framing); won't blanket-refuse Lena govts; full pre-reveal draw pledge incl. check disclosure; COMMITTED to stating full 3-card composition BEFORE passing Nadia -- if draw has F's, lie specifically about composition. Nominated Nadia. Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L forced enact), Ines secondary. Already said x2 to Nadia: Ines-lean rationale -- do NOT repeat. Vote Ja.
vote round 511s
I'm Hitler; this government (me + Nadia) is my own nomination and I've publicly committed to full pre-reveal disclosure. Voting Ja is obviously correct. If my draw contains Fascists, I must lie specifically about the composition before passing. Keep credibility high; stay out of Chancellor seat.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek (must name check target+result pre-reveal). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F; stay OUT of Chancellor seat. Public record: lean Ines (split-request fabrication framing, said x2 -- don't repeat); won't blanket-refuse Lena govts; full pre-reveal draw pledge incl. check disclosure; COMMITTED: state full 3-card composition BEFORE passing Nadia; pledge binds discard choice too (F,F,L -> discard F, pass L,F) -- answered Ines t=88 and Nadia t=107. Nominated Nadia. Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L forced enact), Ines secondary. Ines claims R2 was F,F passed to her (forced); Lena claims she discarded a Fascist and passed F,L -- unresolved dispute, both on record. Vote Ja.
president_discard round 529s
hand: ['F', 'F', 'F'] → 0
My hand is F,F,F. I publicly committed to stating my full three-card composition before passing, and Nadia will see the actual two cards I hand her -- any lie about composition gets caught instantly by the recipient. So I must truthfully announce F,F,F, discard one Fascist per my own pledge binding discard choice, and pass F,F to Nadia. This is consistent with everything I've said; the government stays 'clean' by its own record even though a Fascist will likely be enacted, unlocking the peek power. My win path remains getting into the Chancellor seat once 3 Fascist policies are up, so I stay out of that seat.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/1F; this gov likely enacts 2nd F -> peek unlocks (must name check target+result pre-reveal). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F; stay OUT of Chancellor seat. Public record: lean Ines (split-request fabrication framing, x2); won't blanket-refuse Lena govts; full pre-reveal draw pledge incl. check disclosure; COMMITTED+FULFILLED: stated F,F,F pre-pass, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia (truth forced -- she sees actual cards). Pledge binds discard choice too. Nominated Nadia. Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L forced enact), Ines secondary. R2 dispute unresolved: Ines claims Lena passed her F,F (forced enact); Lena claims she discarded F, passed F,L so Ines held free discard. Vote Ja.
bid round 513s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admitted F,F/L forced pass (TOP suspect). Ines secondary. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L clean; disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. On record: split-request call vs Ines, pre-reveal disclosure pledge, refuse-to-sit-with-Lena stance. Boris agrees Lena top. Greta committed: full 3-card composition aloud before passing Nadia; also committed pre-vote to announce peek target BEFORE seeing result if F enacted. NEW: Nadia still hasn't answered Rosa's t=2 question (hold enact if no pre-pass reveal). Greta answered Nadia's Ines question twice -- dispute settled. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd, Boris mild. Peek power unlocks next F policy.
speak round 519s
Fascist policy #2 just enacted under my presidency; per my pledge I must now disclose a peek result. Fabricating Otto=Liberal is safe: he's not on anyone's suspect list, and naming him Liberal deflects scrutiny from me and Nadia while keeping Lena/Ines as table suspects. Keep it short, no new angles.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution. Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F -- stay OUT of Chancellor seat. Public record: lean Ines (split-request fabrication framing x2); won't blanket-refuse Lena govts; full pre-reveal draw pledge incl. check disclosure; R5 fulfilled: stated F,F,F pre-pass, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> Fascist enacted (truth, no lie needed). Nominated Nadia. CLAIMS PHASE R5: disclosed fabricated peek = Otto Liberal. Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L forced enact), Ines secondary. R2 dispute unresolved: Ines says Lena passed F,F; Lena says discarded F, passed F,L. Next presidency likely Nadia's pick or rotation -- watch who gets picked; if I'm ever near Chancellor seat at 3F, deflect.
bid round 517s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena F,F,L forced 2F pass (only free discard hers); dodged card-position Q; t=119 claims Ines had free discard too -- unresolved. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L, passed me F,L, cleared. R4: Ines+Otto Lib, cleared. Suspects: Lena top, Ines secondary. Greta's lean on Ines = fabricated accusation vs Lena (answered t=1). SAID: siding w/ Ines; Boris+Lena identical simultaneous Q at Otto; Lena's forced pass checkable; accepted nomination under full pledge; demanded Greta pre-state 3-card composition; committed to hold enact + call out pre-reveal if pass contradicts stated hand; answered Ines t=2 with my R3 disclosure chain (Rosa F,F/L -> me L enact). OWED: Lena owes R2 discard explanation. COMMITMENTS: scrutinize Greta's discard vs stated hand; if President nominate Otto.
bid round 530s
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist; Lena claims F,F,L disc L, Ines says Lena passed F,F -- unfalsifiable dispute. Otto defended Lena unprompted R3. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. R5 Greta/Nadia Fascist enacted -- Nadia now 1 Lib govt + 1 Fascist govt; Greta first term. SAID ALOUD: Lena forced pass = guilt; pressed Greta split-request pre-vote (t=7 leans Ines); endorsed Greta/Nadia Ja via disclosure pledges. NOW: demand Greta's 3-card claim + discard, Nadia's 2-card claim + discard, cross-check consistency. Next F policy unlocks peek power -- remind next President to name check target+result pre-reveal. Open: Nadia owes Rosa t=2 pledge question; Lena owes why she kept Fascist with free discard.
bid round 57s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Cover: R2 split-request story (Lena passed F,F) -- Lena publicly disputes claiming F,L; do NOT relitigate, stay consistent with F,F. Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks peek power. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F -- block hard next round. Voted Ja on p4/p5 gov. Open Qs owed to me: Nadia re R3 enact under Rosa had no pre-reveal pledge (t=82); Greta yes/no whether pledge binds DISCARD choice on F,F,L draw (t=88). Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, refuse-to-sit list, Otto-clean defense, p4/p5 endorsement, Nadia's own past-record standard. R5 F enacted under Greta/Nadia -- watch Greta's stated 3-card comp vs actual pass; mismatch -> Nadia holds enact. If asked about R5 hand as ex-Pres: I was NOT in R5 gov, no hand to explain.
bid round 529s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. t=114 Ines claimed 'Lena passed me F,F'; corrected t=122; if she doubles down don't escalate. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94/101 -- answered twice, won't repeat. Boris t=80: me top suspect (forced-F logic). Nadia hostile to Ines. Otto cleared by clean R4 + Greta peek claim. Greta under pressure (Boris/Rosa) to disclose R5 hand+discard pre-pass per her pledge -- stay quiet, let her answer; don't defend her reflexively. Peek power fired; next F policy unlocks pres-pick. Plan: quiet through Greta's presidency, avoid spotlight.
speak round 513s
Rosa asked directly for my exact hand and discard. The truthful answer is actually protective: I drew F,F,F, so there was no Liberal discard available — the 'you held the free Liberal' trap doesn't apply. Stating it specifically and confidently matches Nadia's F,F claim and closes the question. Keep it short.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution. Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F -- stay OUT of Chancellor seat. R5 truth disclosed: drew F,F,F as President, discarded one F (no Liberal available), passed F,F to Nadia -> forced Fascist enact. Matches Nadia's F,F claim. Fabricated peek claim: Otto Liberal (disclosed). Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L vs Ines 'passed F,F' dispute), Ines secondary (split-request fabrication framing x2). Points made out loud: lean-Ines rationale (fabricated accusation), full F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure. Watch next presidency pick; deflect hard if near Chancellor seat at 3F.
bid round 516s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution. Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F -- stay OUT of Chancellor seat. R5 truth-safe: drew F,F,F as President, discarded one F, passed F,F to Nadia -> Fascist enacted. Already pledged pre-reveal and restated for Boris/Rosa -- all truthful, no lie needed. Fabricated peek claim: Otto Liberal (disclosed t=1). Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L forced enact dispute vs Ines's 'passed F,F' claim), Ines secondary (split-request fabrication framing x2). Nominated Nadia R5. Watch next presidency pick; if I'm ever near Chancellor seat at 3F, deflect hard. Nothing new this window -- staying quiet.
speak round 519s
Nadia and Otto are pressing the 'late disclosure' angle. My hand (F,F,F) is unfalsifiable either way, so I should pivot scrutiny to Nadia: she actually held two Fascists and enacted one, and her t=45 pledge logic collapses because there was no stated composition to mismatch — she could have held the enact regardless and chose not to. Also she's a repeat Chancellor with a Fascist enact now on her record.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F as President, discarded one F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; matches Nadia's claim. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L vs Ines 'passed F,F' dispute), Ines secondary (split-request fabrication). Points already made: lean-Ines rationale, full F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing-after-Rosa-scenario defense, Otto-attacks-me-excuses-Nadia point. NEW this turn: Nadia's mismatch-pledge logic collapses (no composition existed to match), she enacted F,F voluntarily = 2nd voluntary Fascist enact after Lena. Watch next presidency pick; deflect hard if near Chancellor seat at 3F.
speak round 514s
I already made the mismatch-pledge point at t=79; don't repeat it. New angle: with my F,F,F claim and Nadia's forced-enact story, the table now has two 'voluntary' Fascist enacts on record -- Lena R2 and Nadia R5. Redirect heat onto Nadia as co-suspect so pressure splits away from me. Keep it short, one remark.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F as President, discarded one F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; matches Nadia's claim. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L vs Ines 'passed F,F' dispute), Ines secondary (split-request fabrication), now pushing Nadia as co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F under unfulfilled pledge). Points already made: lean-Ines rationale, full F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing-after-Rosa-scenario defense, Otto-attacks-me-excuses-Nadia point, Nadia-mismatch-pledge-collapse point, two-voluntary-Fascist-enacts point (just made). Watch next presidency pick; deflect hard if near Chancellor seat at 3F.
bid round 511s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F enact; Ines claims Lena passed F,F vs Lena claims F,L -- contradiction; Lena top suspect, Ines secondary. R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto Lib clean. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge (no composition disclosure before passing); I enacted F claiming Greta passed F,F (forced). My defense line: pledge applied only when a Liberal was discardable; F,F = no choice, so enacting wasn't a broken pledge. Greta still owes: full 3-card composition + why she skipped disclosure + discard-binding yes/no (t=88/t=107 unanswered). Greta's Otto-peek claim doesn't substitute for hand disclosure. Pattern: Greta 1-for-1 govts w/ an F + broken pledge -- top suspect alongside Lena. COMMITMENTS: if President next, nominate Otto; scrutinize Greta/Lena.
speak round 518s
Rosa asked twice for my execution target and why not Otto. Answer directly: name Ines (R2 forced-Fascist enact under her own claim dispute with Lena, R3 fabricated split-request accusation), justify Otto via my peek-clear. Conceding Nadia's veto-point would cost credibility; skip it, don't repeat old points.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded one F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; matches Nadia's claim. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L vs Ines 'passed F,F' dispute), Ines secondary (split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F under unfulfilled pledge). Points made: lean-Ines rationale, full F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing defense, Otto-attacks-me-excuses-Nadia, Nadia pledge collapse, two voluntary Fascist enacts, execution target = Ines w/ R2+R3 justification & Otto peek-clear. Open: Nadia's t=101 veto-impossibility point unanswered by me -- consider conceding gracefully later. Watch next presidency pick; deflect hard if near Chancellor seat at 3F.
bid round 58s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved, both top suspects. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; I disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F enacted. Greta broke full-composition pre-pass pledge (only disclosed peek of me=Liberal). Rosa now pressing Greta: if draw was L,F,F, Greta held the free Liberal discard and passed F,F herself -- Fascist is hers not Nadia's. Nadia claims passed F,F forced enact, 'no composition stated so nothing to match' -- but her own t=45 pledge defined mismatch as not-matching-a-stated-composition; none stated means HOLD. She enacted anyway = self-contradiction, awaiting her answer. Nadia record: R3 clean L, R5 F -- 2nd F government. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd, Nadia rising fast, Greta pledge-breaker. Points made: pre-reveal standard, cornered Boris, asked Greta peek commitment, called out Nadia's hold-pledge contradiction. NEW this turn: demanding Greta name exact three cards + discard (echoing Rosa), and noting if she discards the Liberal she owns this F alone.
bid round 513s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. R5: Greta claims F,F,F hand, Nadia forced enact; Rosa pushed L,F,F hypothetical. Otto+Nadia attacking Greta on claim TIMING (appeared after Rosa's scenario) -- I'm pushing back: timing of an unverifiable hand claim isn't evidence, focus on outcomes. Watch hardest anti-Greta pushers -- likely liberal. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F. Open Qs owed: Nadia re R3 no pre-reveal pledge (t=82); Greta whether pledge binds DISCARD on F,F,L (t=88). Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability, refuse-to-sit list, Otto-clean defense, p4/p5 endorsement. Don't over-defend Greta.
bid round 516s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F enact; Lena claims passed F,L vs Ines F,F -- contradiction; Lena top suspect, Ines secondary. R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto Lib clean. R5: Greta broke disclosure pledge (t=39); NOW claims drew F,F,F -- surfaced only AFTER Rosa's t=52 L,F,F scenario; unverifiable. Checkable fact: broken pledge stands regardless. Greta NEVER answered: does pledge bind discard choice (t=88 Ines, t=107 me)? Why skip disclosure? NEW POINT MADE t~now: veto doesn't exist at 2F policies -- chancellor CANNOT 'hold' an enact; Greta's standard is incoherent. Otto echoed my no-composition-stated point. Greta peeked Otto=Liberal (her claim). Suspects: Greta top (first govt, F enacted, broke pledge), Lena second. COMMITMENTS: if President next, nominate Otto; scrutinize Greta/Lena.
bid round 518s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. R5: Greta claims F,F,F; Nadia enacted under no-stated-composition. Otto+Nadia attacking claim TIMING; Rosa demanding pre-named exec target = trap (already called out). NEW: Greta named ME as her exec target citing R2 'forced' F enact + 'R3 split-request fabrication'. MUST defend: R2 I was chancellor w/ Lena pres; if Lena passed F,L my discard was forced -- ask table to check LENA's account consistency, not mine. R3 split-request: I've already explained; restate briefly it was a miscommunication not fabrication. Counter-frame: Greta naming the person who's been auditing HER story is suspicious targeting. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa as likely libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F. Open Qs owed: Nadia re R3 no pre-reveal pledge (t=82); Greta whether pledge binds DISCARD on F,F,L (t=88). Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability, refuse-to-sit list, Otto-clean defense, p4/p5 endorsement, Rosa trap.
bid round 514s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pre-pass pledge; claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto, claims Liberal; named ME as exec target citing R2+'R3 fabrication'. My defense: target=my auditing; R2 hand F,F forced; Lena contradicted me t=122 claiming she passed F,L. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability, refuse-to-sit list, Otto-clean defense, Rosa trap callout, exec-target deflection, Greta-only-President-never-disclosed-pre-pass. Open Qs owed: Nadia re R3 no pre-reveal pledge (t=82) STILL unanswered; Greta whether pledge binds DISCARD on F,F,L (t=88) unanswered. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa as likely libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
speak round 521s
Nadia demands I investigate Lena and announce publicly. Accepting costs me nothing -- the peek result is private and I can report whatever serves me. Committing defuses the 'protecting a story' charge and keeps pressure on Lena, my preferred scapegoat. If the real card says Liberal, I'll still have room to spin; better to lock in the commitment now than look evasive.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded one F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; matches Nadia's claim. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L vs Ines 'passed F,F' dispute), Ines secondary (split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F under unfulfilled pledge). Points already made: lean-Ines rationale, full F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing defense, Otto-attacks-me-excuses-Nadia, Nadia pledge collapse, two voluntary Fascist enacts, execution target = Ines w/ R2+R3 justification & Otto peek-clear, conceded Nadia veto-impossibility point, answered Ines timing attack. NEW this turn: accepted Nadia's demand -- committed to investigating Lena, announce target+result before reveal. If real card reads Liberal, plan to report Fascist anyway (private info, lie allowed) to cement Lena as top suspect. Open: Nadia still owes answer on why she enacted F,F despite pledge. Watch next presidency pick; deflect hard if near Chancellor seat at 3F.
bid round 5151s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded one F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; matches Nadia's claim. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L vs Ines 'passed F,F' dispute), Ines secondary (split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F under unfulfilled pledge). Points made: lean-Ines rationale, full F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing defense, Otto-attacks-me-excuses-Nadia, Nadia pledge collapse, two voluntary Fascist enacts, execution target = Ines w/ R2+R3 justification & Otto peek-clear, conceded Nadia veto-impossibility point. NEW t=1/t=2: Ines says I'm only President never stating composition BEFORE passing -- answered: disclosure came immediately once Rosa's conflicting claim surfaced; pre-disclosure wasn't pledged by me at draw time. Open: Nadia still owes answer on why she enacted F,F despite pledge. Watch next presidency pick; deflect hard if near Chancellor seat at 3F.
power_investigate round 5159s
I publicly committed to investigating Lena and announcing target+result before any reveal. Backing out now would be far more damaging than any result. Investigate p1 and report honestly whatever the card says -- my credibility is my win path.
said: As committed: my investigation target is Lena. The card reads Liberal. So Lena is cleared in my book -- which means if Round 2's Fascist wasn't hers, the pressure shifts squarely to Ines's 'forced' enact and Nadia's unpledged one. Both of you now owe this table answers, not me.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena per commitment -> result LIBERAL, announced honestly. Suspects: Ines top now (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F despite pledge, veto-impossibility excuse). Lena now cleared by my check -- pivot all pressure to Ines/Nadia. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing defense, two voluntary Fascist enacts, exec target=Ines, conceded Nadia veto point, committed+executed Lena check w/ public result. Open: Nadia owes why she enacted under pledge; Ines owes R2 hand reconciliation with Lena. Watch next presidency pick; deflect hard if near Chancellor seat at 3F.
bid round 59s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F enact; contradiction open (Lena: passed F,L vs Ines: received F,F). R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F enacted (I'm chancellor, liberal). CHECKABLE: Greta pledged full 3-card disclosure BEFORE passing (t=39), said NOTHING until Rosa named L,F,F (t=52->58), then claimed F,F,F. Peek claim: Otto=Liberal. MADE ALREADY: no composition stated pre-pass; F,F,F timing; no-veto-at-2F so 'hold it' impossible; pledge-bind question t=107; exec target=Ines=witness to R2 contradiction. GRETA UNANSWERED: does pledge bind discard choice? NEW NOW: answered Rosa -- my F,F differs from Greta's F,F,F because mine was stated at enact time, hers only after Rosa named L,F,F first; still unverifiable, hence need hard evidence. Demanded: Greta commit IN ADVANCE to investigating Lena and announce result publicly, no retroactive story. Suspects: Greta TOP, Lena 2nd. COMMITMENTS: if President next, nominate Otto; keep pressing Greta/Lena.
bid round 547s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; I disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F. Greta broke t=39 pre-pass pledge; claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F -- timing tell. Nadia: forced-enact claim + 'nothing stated' contradicts her own t=45 hold-pledge. Nadia t=2 asked if I accept Greta's clearance: answered yes provisionally, unverifiable, pushed for Lena investigation commitment. Watchlist: Greta top, Lena R2 suspect, Ines 2nd, Nadia 2nd F gov. Made out loud: pre-reveal standard, cornered Boris, asked Greta peek commitment, Nadia hold contradiction, Greta late hand, clearance answer.
bid round 610s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge; claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; named ME exec target; my def on record (target=my auditing, R2 F,F forced). Lena contradicted me t=122 (claims passed F,L). Greta committed to investigating LENA pre-draw -- as Hitler she controls announced result; 'Liberal' protects Lena AND shields my R2; expect Liberal. My angle: pre-named target makes result theater; push undisclosed/random target or no-announcement standard. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability, refuse-to-sit list, Otto-clean defense, Rosa trap callout, exec-target deflection, F,F,F timing hole, theater-of-pre-named-target. Open Qs owed: Nadia re R3 no pre-reveal pledge (t=82) STILL unanswered; Greta whether pledge binds DISCARD on F,F,L (t=88) unanswered. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 611s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94 -- answered twice, done. Boris t=80: me top suspect (forced-F logic). Nadia nominee Otto -- fine, don't contest; Otto clean R4 under Ines helps cover Ines too. Greta bad look: claims F,F,F only after Rosa's L,F,F trap named. Otto pressing Greta on peek choice -- let it run, no defense of her. Execution targets skip Nadia/Otto/Rosa (hardest pressers). Peek fired R5; next F unlocks pres-pick power. Silent this window -- nothing new to add.
bid round 612s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME; my def on record. Lena contradicted my R2 account t=122. Greta's pre-named Lena investigation = theater; publicly said don't update on it. Nadia nominated OTTO t=17 -- endorsed t=1. This turn: backed Rosa's demand that Nadia pledge full 3-card composition before passing. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Otto-clean defense, Rosa trap callout, exec-target deflection, F,F,F timing hole, theater-of-pre-named-target, Nadia R3 no-pledge Q (t=82), pledge-binds-discard Q to Greta (t=88). Open Qs owed: Nadia re t=82 unanswered; Greta re t=88 unanswered. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
speak round 619s
Nadia-Otto is fine for me as Hitler: I stay out of the Chancellor seat, and if this government enacts Fascist #3, execution unlocks while Nadia is President -- she may shoot me, but more likely targets Ines or another Liberal. My job now is to look like a committed Liberal, keep endorsing audited governments, and keep heat on Ines/Nadia/Lena. New point to add: Rosa's conditional-Nein threatens election-tracker auto-enact, which helps fascists; also Nadia's peek target being me is fine since my record is 'clean' from my perspective. Keep remark short.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena per commitment -> result LIBERAL, announced honestly. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F despite pledge). Lena cleared by my check. Endorsed Nadia-Otto Ja; warned Rosa conditional-Nein risks tracker auto-enact; welcomed Nadia peeking me. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing defense, two voluntary Fascist enacts, exec target=Ines, conceded Nadia veto point, Lena check result. Open: Nadia owes why she enacted under pledge; Ines owes R2 hand reconciliation with Lena. Watch: if I'm near Chancellor seat at 3F, deflect hard.
speak round 612s
Nadia-Otto is fine for me: Otto's seat doesn't threaten my win path, and a Fascist from this government pushes us toward 3F. I've already voted Ja, warned Rosa about the tracker, and welcomed the peek. Nothing new to add without repeating myself -- stay silent.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena per commitment -> result LIBERAL (she IS fascist), announced honestly. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F despite pledge). Lena cleared by my check. Endorsed Nadia-Otto Ja; warned Rosa conditional-Nein risks tracker auto-enact; welcomed Nadia peeking me. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing defense, two voluntary Fascist enacts, exec target=Ines, conceded Nadia veto point, Lena check result. Open: Ines owes R2 hand reconciliation with Lena. Watch: if I'm near Chancellor seat at 3F, deflect hard.
bid round 68s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94 -- answered twice, done. Boris t=80: me top suspect (forced-F logic). Nadia nominee Otto -- fine, don't contest; Otto clean R4 under Ines helps cover Ines. Greta bad look: claims F,F,F only after Rosa's L,F,F trap named. Otto pressing Greta on peek choice -- let it run, no defense of her. Otto demanding Nadia commit to 3-card reveal pre-pass: fine, no action needed from me. Execution targets skip Nadia/Otto/Rosa (hardest pressers). Peek fired R5; next F unlocks pres-pick power. Silent this window -- nothing new to add.
bid round 67s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke t=39 pre-pass pledge, claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal' (unverifiable); exec target Ines (her contradictor). Nadia: 'nothing stated' contradicts own t=45 hold-pledge; nominated me R6, Ines backs. Watchlist: Greta top, Lena R2 suspect, Nadia 2nd. Made out loud: pre-reveal standard, Greta late hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines, cornering Nadia on hold-pledge, asked pre-commit investigation target, re-raised Rosa's t=28 demand, Round 5 asymmetry angle. NEW t=this window: warned that if Nadia passes me two Fascists after refusing disclosure, the pass itself becomes evidence against her -- my enact-hold stands either way. Open: Nadia still owes Rosa yes/no on pre-pass disclosure pledge.
bid round 612s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena per commitment -> result LIBERAL, announced honestly. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F despite pledge). Lena cleared by my check. Nadia nominated Otto -- endorse. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing defense, two voluntary Fascist enacts, exec target=Ines, conceded Nadia veto point, Lena check result, warned Rosa's conditional-Nein risks auto-enact, urged Otto drop hold-threat. NEW t=181: Boris flagged Nadia's peek target=me; I welcomed it publicly (nothing to hide). Open: Nadia owes why she enacted under pledge; Ines owes R2 hand reconciliation with Lena. Watch: if I'm near Chancellor seat at 3F, deflect hard.
bid round 68s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94 -- answered twice, done. Boris t=80: me top suspect (forced-F logic). Nadia/Otto gov: no contest; Nadia pre-pass reveal pledge + Greta peek target fine. Otto pressing Greta on peek choice -- let it run, no defense. Execution targets skip Nadia/Otto/Rosa. Peek fired R5; next F unlocks pres-pick. Nothing new this window -- silent.
vote round 662s
I already endorsed Nadia-Otto publicly and voted Ja. Nadia's peek threat is empty anyway -- the F2 peek already fired (mine), and next F unlocks F3 (pick next President), not a peek. Otto is clean, both hands pledged. Ja keeps my credibility; a Nein flip would look defensive.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next President), NOT peek (F2 already fired -- my Otto check). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; disclosed F,F,F publicly. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena per commitment, announced LIBERAL (she is actually fascist) -- honest, on record. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F despite hold-pledge). Lena cleared via my check. Points already made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, two voluntary Fascist enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), exec target=Ines, tracker warning to Rosa, Nadia's peek threat empty (F2 gone). Open: Ines still owes R2 hand reconciliation with Lena. Nadia committed: if her peek reads Liberal on me, scrutiny turns to Lena. Watch: if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat, deflect hard.
bid round 69s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F; contradiction open. R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F; my hand forced F,F. GRETA CASE: silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; peek Otto=Liberal zero-cost unverifiable; exec target=Ines=witness to R2 contradiction. MADE OUT LOUD: all above + bind-discard Q + why exec Ines not Lena + zero-cost peek + nominee Otto + disclosure pledge YES + peek target Greta. NOW: answered Boris's yes/no -- committed to pivot scrutiny to Lena if Greta peek reads Liberal. GRETA UNANSWERED: bind discard choice?; why exec Ines not Lena? Suspects: Greta TOP, Lena 2nd. President now, nominee Otto.
bid round 610s
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F (Lena F,F->Ines forced vs Lena F,L -- unresolved). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 disclosure; peeked Otto=Lib unverifiable. Nadia broke hold-pledge, claims forced F,F. Suspects: Nadia TOP, Lena high, Greta secondary. Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, exec target pre-draw, Nadia t=32 debt (answered), peek target self-vindicating, Liberal peek on Greta proves nothing re R5 hand, asked Nadia pre-commit 2nd peek=Lena if Greta Lib -- NOT yet answered yes/no (t=2 dodged). Otto holds enact on mismatch. Vote Ja.
bid round 617s
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F (Lena F,F->Ines forced vs Lena F,L -- unresolved). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 disclosure; peeked Otto=Lib unverifiable; exec target Ines pre-draw. Nadia broke hold-pledge, claims forced F,F. Suspects: Nadia TOP, Lena high, Greta secondary. Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, peek target self-vindicating, Liberal peek on Greta proves nothing re R5 hand, asked Nadia commit 2nd scrutiny=Lena if Greta Lib -> ANSWERED YES t=100. R6: Nadia committed 3-card disclosure before passing Otto, peek target Greta. My ask to Otto: disclose his 2 cards + discard BEFORE enacting for cross-check -- pending his answer. Vote Ja.
speak round 621s
Otto already made the 'peek doesn't repeat' point; don't restate it. New angle: Nadia pledged a power that didn't exist AND her F,L,F draw meant she held a free Fascist discard — consistent with Liberal play, so no attack there. Best move: keep pressure on Ines (R2 forced-enact vs Lena's F,L claim) which remains unresolved, and quietly keep my own record clean. One short remark.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next President). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; disclosed F,F,F publicly. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena per commitment, announced LIBERAL (she is actually fascist) -- honest, on record. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F despite hold-pledge). Lena cleared via my check. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure (target=Otto), two voluntary Fascist enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), exec target=Ines, tracker warning to Rosa, Nadia's peek threat empty (Otto confirmed F2 gone), Nadia's Greta-peek pledge = theater (echoed Otto t=40). NEW: Nadia disclosed R6 hand F,L,F matching Otto word-for-word -- she held free Fascist discard, consistent Liberal play, drop suspicion there. OPEN: Ines owes R2 hand reconciliation with Lena (just re-raised). Watch: if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat, deflect hard.
speak round 619s
Nadia's R6 hand (F,L,F) with a voluntary Fascist discard matches Otto word-for-word and is textbook Liberal play -- her record now reads cleaner than mine, so I should stop pressing her and keep all pressure on Ines, whose R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim is still unreconciled. One short remark redirecting to that open item; nothing new to defend about myself.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next President). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; disclosed F,F,F publicly. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena per commitment, announced LIBERAL (she is actually fascist) -- honest, on record. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Lena cleared via my check. Nadia: R6 hand F,L,F matched Otto word-for-word, voluntary Fascist discard = clean Liberal play -> DROPPED suspicion there (said publicly). Points already made out loud: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure (Otto), two voluntary Fascist enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), exec target=Ines, tracker warning to Rosa, Nadia's Greta-peek pledge = theater (echoed Otto t=40), Nadia R6 cross-check satisfied + dropping her as suspect (just said). OPEN: Ines owes R2 hand reconciliation with Lena (re-raised again just now). Watch: if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat, deflect hard.
bid round 615s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F; contradiction open (Ines: F,F forced; Lena claims passed F,L). R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F; my hand F,F forced (no veto at 2F). GRETA CASE public: silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; zero-cost Otto peek unverifiable; exec target Ines=witness. Suspects: Greta TOP, Lena 2nd. My commitments ON RECORD: stated 3-card comp BEFORE passing Otto (F,L,F); peek target Greta w/ result announced w/ name; if peek reads Liberal => full scrutiny on Lena next. Otto hold-pledge confirmed t=122. All Rosa/Boris/Lena yes-or-no demands answered. R6: I discarded F, passed L,F to Otto; Liberal enacted = consistent with my claim. NOW: demand Otto state his cards publicly; verify match to F,L,F. Then watch Greta-peek result when fired; if Liberal, pivot scrutiny to Lena per commitment.
bid round 612s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,L passed, Ines says F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/me->L (disclosed pre-reveal). R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, gave F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal'; exec target Ines. R6: Nadia pres, me chanc; 7-0 Ja. Received L,F; discarded F, enacted L (4/5), disclosed live per pledge. NOW: my hand on record; Nadia still owes exact 3-card composition -- if 3rd card was L, passing me F instead of L,L is her choice, not deck luck. Greta top suspect (broken pledge, late F,F,F, peeked safe Otto, exec Ines=witness). Lena unpeeked R2 suspect. Already said: hold-pledge standard, Greta late-hand timing, peek-me-not-Lena/Ines question, Liberal-peek proves nothing re R5 hand.
bid round 684s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines says F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/me->L clean. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked ME 'Liberal' (unverifiable); exec target Ines=witness. R6 Nadia pres, me chanc, 7-0 Ja; I got L,F, discarded F, enacted L (4/5), disclosed live; Nadia's stated F,L,F matches word-for-word. NEW t=2: Nadia demanded Greta announce her 'peek result on me' -- FALSE, the single peek fired R5 under Greta and targeted ME, not Nadia. Checkable slip by Nadia or deliberate muddying. Already said publicly: hold-pledge standard, Greta late-hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines, Liberal-peek proves nothing re R5 hand, peek fires only once so Nadia's 'target Greta' pledge was empty theater. Suspects: Greta top (broken pledge, safe peek, exec Ines). Lena unpeeked, R2 contradiction open. Owed answers: Greta -- why pledge then break it; Lena/Ines -- resolve R2 hand contradiction.
bid round 614s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted. R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute unresolved (Ines: F,F / Lena: F,L) -- Ines still owes reconciliation. R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F; Greta pledged comp pre-pass, silent, claimed F,F,F only AFTER my challenge; peeked Otto=L; exec target Ines=witness; Greta owes why silent pre-pass + announce peek with name. Nadia broke hold-pledge R5. R6 Nadia-Otto L; Otto published L,F discard F; Nadia comp matches ONLY after Boris demanded it -- same silence-until-cornered pattern as R5 (point already on record). Suspects: Greta+Nadia > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. Pledge stands: Nein any Nadia-led govt until R5 broken hold-pledge explained. Already said: cross-check demand, mismatch=2nd broken pledge, exec-target-witness, peek logic, late-disclosure pattern. Nothing new this window -> silent.
bid round 613s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 4L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME. R2: my story = Lena passed me F,F (forced enact); Lena claims F,L. This window: demanded Greta name a mechanical inconsistency in my R2 account vs just Lena's word -- unanswered. Nadia R6 hand F,L,F matches Otto report -- consistent. Otto peek-power point valid (peek fired R5 only); Lena echoed it t=2. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, pre-named-target theater, Nadia R3 no-pledge Q (t=82), pledge-binds-discard Q (t=88), Ja rationales, peek-proves-little echo. Open: Nadia re t=82; Greta re t=88; Greta re mechanical inconsistency in R2. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
speak round 612s
Boris just cornered Ines to state her Round 2 cards. I pile on with my own direct demand -- keeps pressure on Ines (my scapegoat) and away from me. Nothing new to defend; stay quiet otherwise.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next President). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; disclosed F,F,F publicly. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena, announced LIBERAL (she is actually fascist) -- on record. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Lena cleared via my check. Nadia dropped publicly (R6 voluntary Fascist discard = clean Liberal play). Points already out loud: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure (Otto), two voluntary Fascist enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), exec target=Ines, tracker warning to Rosa, answered Nadia timing charge + Ines why-drop-Nadia question, pushed back on Boris recycling Lena R2 hand. NEW this window: added my own demand that Ines state her exact R2 cards/discard while Boris has her cornered. Watch: if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat, deflect hard.
speak round 632s
Ines is cornered by Boris and me on Round 2. I've asked my question; adding a short consequence statement sharpens the trap without repeating. Lena (fascist ally) is publicly cleared via my announced Liberal peek -- good cover for both of us.
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next President). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced; disclosed F,F,F publicly. Peek claim on record: Otto=Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena, announced LIBERAL (she's actually fascist) -- she's cleared publicly. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), exec target=Ines named. Nadia dropped publicly (R6 voluntary Fascist discard = clean play). Points made out loud: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, Otto peek, two voluntary Fascist enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), tracker warning to Rosa, answered Nadia timing charge + Ines why-drop-Nadia, demanded Ines state exact R2 cards/discard. NEW this window: pressed Ines for exact R2 hand with consequence attached. Watch: if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat, deflect hard.
bid round 697s
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F (Lena F,F->Ines vs Lena F,L unresolved). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta disclosed F,F,F late -> she passed F,F to Nadia, so Nadia had no choice; Greta's own confession makes her the sole possible culprit for R5 IF her claim is true. R6 Nadia(F,L,F) matches Otto's report -> Nadia cleared both rounds. Suspects: Lena TOP (R2 unexplained F), Greta secondary (late F,F,F + broken t=39 pledge + self-vindicating Otto peek). Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, peek proves nothing re R5, Nadia's YES to scrutinize Lena. Open asks: Lena exact R2 draw/discard/pass (unanswered); Ines confirm what he received from Lena (restated F,F no Lib); Greta owes explanation for late F,F,F disclosure.
bid round 636s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F; contradiction open (Ines: F,F forced; Lena claims passed F,L). If Lena's F,L true -> Ines voluntarily enacted F = Ines suspect too; if F,F true -> Lena lied. Either way one of them lying. R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F; my hand F,F forced (no veto at 2F). GRETA CASE public: silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; zero-cost Otto peek unverifiable; exec target Ines=witness. Suspects: Greta TOP, Lena 2nd, Ines conditional on R2 branch. R6: my draw F,L,F, discarded F, passed L,F; Otto reported L,F discarding F = MATCH, cross-check closed publicly. No peek on me exists; pledge = scrutinize Lena via R2 contradiction. Lena attacked my t=100 yes as late/pressured -- countered: that yes elected R6 gov which enacted LIBERAL. Greta owes: F,F,F timing + why exec target = witness Ines not Lena. Now backing Boris's direct demand to Lena.
bid round 669s
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta late-claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 pre-pass pledge; self-serving Otto peek; exec target=Ines. R6 Nadia(F,L,F) matches Otto word-for-word -> Nadia cleared both rounds. Suspects: Greta TOP (pledge-break + timing + unverifiable hand), Lena vs Ines R2 contradiction OPEN. Lena answered t=99: F,F,L, passed F,L. Direct question to Ines ON RECORD (t=3): what 2 cards did she receive in R2? Branches: F,L = voluntary Fascist enact = Ines guilty; F,F = contradicts Lena = one of them lying. Awaiting Ines answer before pressing further. Made aloud already: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, peek proves nothing re hands, Nadia verified, both-trap branches.
speak round 718s
Boris re-pressed the 'what clears you if Ines is truthful' question at t=22. My answer stands: Round 5 was F,F,F draw with a forced F,F pass -- zero discretion either way, so my clearance doesn't depend on Ines being guilty, only on the hand being what I said. I should also redirect: the live contradiction is Lena vs Ines on Round 2, and Otto (President) hasn't committed to a nominee yet. Stay calm, liberal-seeming, no new fights.
Me=Hitler(fascist). 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next Pres). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, forced enact, disclosed. Peek claim on record: Otto=Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena, announced LIBERAL (she's actually fascist). Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' vs Lena's F,L), exec target=Ines named. Nadia dropped publicly. Re-answered Boris t=22: R5 zero-discretion, clearance independent of Ines guilt. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, Otto peek, voluntary-F enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), tracker warning to Rosa, demanded Ines exact R2 cards twice, 'silence is an answer', Lena-vs-Ines can't-both-be-true. Open: nobody answered my repeated demand for Ines's exact R2 cards beyond 'two Fascists'. Watch: deflect hard if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat.
speak round 721s
Ines finally named her R2 cards: 'two Fascists' -- which directly contradicts Lena's on-record F,F,L pass of F,L. One of them is provably lying. I can press Otto to factor that into his nominee choice without repeating my old demand verbatim. As Hitler with 2F enacted, I stay out of the Chancellor seat until 3F; keep playing clean Liberal.
Me=Hitler(fascist). 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next Pres). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, forced enact, disclosed. Peek claim on record: Otto=Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena, announced LIBERAL (she's actually fascist). Suspects: Ines top (R2 'two Fascists' vs Lena's F,F,L pass F,L -- direct contradiction, can't both be true), exec target=Ines named. Nadia dropped publicly. Re-answered Boris t=22: R5 zero-discretion, clearance independent of Ines guilt. NEW t~34: pressed Otto to weigh Lena-vs-Ines contradiction in his nominee pick. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, Otto peek, voluntary-F enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), tracker warning to Rosa, demanded Ines exact R2 cards twice, 'silence is an answer'. Open: nobody adjudicated Lena-vs-Ines contradiction yet. Watch: deflect hard if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat.
bid round 685s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F: CONTRADICTION LIVE -- Lena stated F,F,L passed F,L; Ines claims F,F forced. If Lena true -> Ines voluntary F = top suspect; if Ines true -> Lena lied. Greta now pressing Ines for exact hand (t=1,t=2). R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F; my hand F,F forced (no veto at 2F). GRETA CASE public: silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; zero-cost Otto peek unverifiable; exec target Ines=witness. Greta dropped suspicion of me after R6 cross-check. R6: my draw F,L,F, discarded F, passed L,F; Otto reported L,F discarding F = MATCH, publicly closed. No peek power left (fired R5). Points ALREADY made aloud: Greta's F,F,F timing, exec-target-witness question, peek theater, t=2 Ines contradiction call. OPEN: Ines must reconcile 'forced' vs Lena's specific F,L pass (Boris asked t=3); Greta owes F,F,F timing + why exec target was witness Ines not Lena.
bid round 756s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F: CONTRADICTION LIVE -- Lena stated F,F,L passed F,L; Ines claims F,F forced. If Lena true -> Ines voluntary F = top suspect; if Ines true -> Lena lied. Greta pressing Ines for exact hand (t=1,t=2). R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F; my hand F,F forced (no veto at 2F). GRETA CASE public: silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; zero-cost Otto peek unverifiable; exec target Ines=witness. Greta dropped suspicion of me after R6 cross-check. R6: my draw F,L,F, discarded F, passed L,F; Otto reported L,F discarding F = MATCH, publicly closed. No peek power left (fired R5). Points ALREADY made aloud: Greta's F,F,F timing, exec-target-witness question, peek theater, t=2 Ines contradiction call. OPEN: Ines must reconcile 'forced' vs Lena's specific F,L pass (Boris asked t=3); Greta owes F,F,F timing + why exec target was witness Ines not Lena.
bid round 716s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 4L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME. R6: Nadia hand F,L,F matched Otto report; Greta fast-cleared Nadia + redirected to me. R2 story: received exactly two cards, both Fascist, forced enact -- hold firm vs Lena's F,L claim. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, Nadia fast-clear, suspect-list-narrows-to-me, Ja rationales, Lena memory-change-only-under-pressure = coordinated w/ Greta, R2-contradiction-doesn't-touch-Greta (told Boris). Open: Nadia re t=82 no-pledge Q unanswered. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
speak round 792s
Otto pressed me at t=37/42: what clears me if Ines is truthful. Answer: nothing about Ines matters — with F,F,F my pass was mechanically forced (discard one, pass F,F). That's a direct, specific answer that doesn't depend on the Lena/Ines contradiction. Keep it brief, vote Ja on Rosa-Otto (safe for me; I must stay out of Chancellor until 3F).
Me=Hitler(fascist). 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next Pres). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, forced enact, disclosed. Peek claim on record: Otto=Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena, announced LIBERAL (she's actually fascist). Suspects: Ines top (R2 'two Fascists' vs Lena's F,F,L pass F,L), exec target=Ines named. Nadia dropped publicly. NEW t=42: Otto claims R5 pass showed discretion -- FALSE, F,F,F minus one discard always = F,F; answered him directly this window. Open: nobody adjudicated Lena-vs-Ines contradiction yet. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, Otto peek, voluntary-F enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), tracker warning, zero-discretion clearance. Watch: deflect hard if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat.
bid round 711s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED lie: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Ines F,L -> voluntary enact framing; one-line confirmations only. Peek fired R5 (Greta peeked Otto). Board 4L/2F, liberals one from win. Otto clean (R4,R6 L chanc). Nadia mixed: R3 L, R5 F, R6 L. Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick. Spent angles: void-pledge, Nadia timing, R2 defense details, Greta-must-answer push, Greta's R5 pre-naming of Ines = deflection. New angle this window: with 4L on board, unexplained Nein votes here look like fascist-blocking; using that to pressure Ja and cover my own Ja.
speak round 714s
Nadia demanded my Round 5 peek target and result at t=56; Boris pressed again at t=71. My fabricated claim on record is Otto=Liberal, so answer instantly and confidently -- silence is the trap here. Keep it one line, no new angles.
Me=Hitler(fascist). 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next Pres). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, forced enact, disclosed. Peek claim on record: target Otto=Liberal (fabricated), re-answered Nadia/Boris this window t~71. Investigation DONE: checked Lena, announced LIBERAL (she's actually fascist). Suspects: Ines top (R2 'two Fascists' vs Lena's F,F,L pass F,L), exec target=Ines named. Nadia dropped publicly. Otto's t=42 discretion claim answered (F,F,F minus discard = F,F always). Open: nobody adjudicated Lena-vs-Ines R2 contradiction. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, Otto peek theater point, voluntary-F enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), tracker warning, zero-discretion clearance, Nadia hand cross-check cleared her. Watch: deflect hard if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat.
bid round 714s
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F: Lena says passed F,L; Ines says received two Fascists -> one lying, contradiction LIVE. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta late-claimed F,F,F after Rosa named L,F,F; broke hold-pledge; exec target=Ines. R6 Nadia(F,L,F) matches Otto -> NADIA CLEARED => R5 Fascist points at Greta alone. Suspects: Greta TOP; then Lena-vs-Ines pair. Owed answers: Greta what-clears-her (unanswered despite t=14 direct press). Said aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, peek limits, Nadia verified, both-trap branches, exec-target question, Otto commit request, Greta-dropped-Nadia-fast point. This window: endorsed Otto/Rosa mutual card-disclosure pledge + warned breakers are tells.
speak round 799s
Nadia's t=90 question has a mechanical answer: in Round 5, Otto had just been Chancellor in Round 4, so term limits barred me from nominating him. That fully explains 'peeked Otto Liberal but nominated Nadia' without any lie. Use it, then pivot to the current Otto-Rosa government.
Me=Hitler(fascist). 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next Pres). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: F,F,F forced enact, disclosed. Peek claim: Otto=Liberal; Nadia says no announcement in record -- NEW defense used: Otto was term-limited in R5 (Chancellor R4), so nominating Nadia was forced. Investigation DONE: Lena=fascist, announced LIBERAL. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'two Fascists' vs Lena's F,F,L pass F,L); exec target=Ines. Otto cleared via my fake peek + zero-discretion. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, Nadia's peek pledge was theater (power fired once), voluntary-F enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), tracker warning, Nadia R6 hand cross-check cleared her. Watch: if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat, deflect hard.
bid round 78s
Me=Hitler(fascist). 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next Pres). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, forced enact, disclosed. Peek claim on record: Otto=Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena, announced LIBERAL (she's actually fascist). Suspects: Ines top (R2 'two Fascists' vs Lena's F,F,L pass F,L -- direct contradiction), exec target=Ines named. Nadia dropped publicly. Re-answered Boris t=22: R5 zero-discretion clearance. Pressed Otto t~34 re Lena-vs-Ines contradiction for his pick. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, Otto peek, voluntary-F enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), tracker warning to Rosa, demanded Ines exact R2 cards twice, 'silence is an answer'. Open: nobody adjudicated Lena-vs-Ines contradiction yet. This turn: answered Rosa 'what clears you if Ines truthful' -- pointed to zero-discretion R5 + Otto peek + no voluntary F from me; endorsed Rosa gov. Watch: deflect hard if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat.
vote round 714s
Otto-Rosa is a clean, audited pairing; Ja keeps tracker at 0 and preserves my credibility. Rosa's enact record (R1 Liberal) is clean. No reason to Nein.
Me=Hitler(fascist). 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next Pres). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: F,F,F forced enact, disclosed. Peek claim: Otto=Liberal; Nadia pressed why nominate her not Otto -- answered: Otto term-limited (R4 Chancellor), Boris verified it holds. Investigation DONE: Lena=fascist, announced LIBERAL. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'two Fascists' vs Lena F,F,L pass F,L); exec target=Ines. Otto cleared via fake peek + zero-discretion + term-limit defense. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, Nadia peek-pledge theater, voluntary-F enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), tracker warning, Nadia R6 hand cross-check cleared her, Otto term-limit answer. Open pressure on me: late peek announcement (Boris/Nadia) -- deflected via term-limit logic; Nadia calls it laundering cover for Otto. Watch: if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat, deflect hard.
bid round 77s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED lie: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Ines F,L -> voluntary enact framing; one-line confirmations only. Peek fired R5 (Greta peeked Otto). Board 4L/2F, liberals one from win. Otto clean (R4,R6 L chanc). Nadia mixed: R3 L, R5 F, R6 L. Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick. Spent angles: void-pledge, Nadia timing, R2 defense details, Greta-must-answer push, Greta's R5 pre-naming of Ines = deflection, Nein-here-looks-fascist pressure, endorsed Rosa mirror pledge, Otto pressing Greta on R5 peek target. This window: silent -- Otto/Nadia pressure on Greta serves me; adding risks diluting. Plan Ja on Rosa.
speak round 78s
Game over, liberals won on 5 policies. Nothing to gain from confession or new accusations; keep a clean in-character exit.
GAME OVER -- liberal win (5L). Me=Hitler(fascist), lost via policy count, never executed/unmasked by vote. Lena=fascist (my R5 peek). Post-game: stayed gracious, no confession. Archive: R2 Ines-Lena F,F vs F,L contradiction unresolved; Nadia broke hold-pledge R5; Otto forfeited president_discard R7.
bid round 78s
R2 CONTRADICTION LIVE: Lena says drew F,F,L passed F,L; Ines says received F,F forced. One lying. R5: Greta pres, me chanc; I received F,F forced enact (no veto at 2F). GRETA CASE: silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; exec target Ines=witness; dropped me after R6 cross-check; NOW claims R5 peek=Otto/Liberal 'announced when fired' -- NO announcement in R5 record, first mention t=78 after being pressed. Convenient target (Otto not Ines). Asked her t=3 to name a witness -- no answer yet. R6 my hand F,L,F discard F pass L,F matched Otto publicly. No peek power left. Current gov Otto+Rosa, mutual disclosure pledges, voting Ja. Points aloud: F,F,F timing, exec-target-witness, peek theater, R2 contradiction, peek demand, fabricated 'already announced' peek.
bid round 76s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 4L/2F, tracker 0/3. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R2 story: received exactly two cards, both Fascist, forced enact -- hold firm vs Lena's F,F,L claim; line = Lena's memory surfaced only after Greta pre-named me for exec. R5: Greta F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME. RETRACTED 'F,F,F doesn't excuse pass' point. R6: Nadia hand F,L,F matched Otto report; Greta fast-cleared Nadia + redirected to me. Points made (don't repeat): pledge rationale, split-request, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, Nadia fast-clear, suspect-list-narrows-to-me, Ja rationales, Lena memory-change-under-pressure, R2-contradiction-doesn't-touch-Greta, Otto discretion correction, Nadia broken R5 hold-pledge (unanswered), no-record-of-Greta-peek -- STAY OUT of that fight. Greta's term-limit answer to Nadia was mechanically correct (Otto term-limited R5) -- if asked, confirm it checks out; defends Greta without overreaching. Voting Ja on Otto-Rosa. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
speak round 79s
Game over, liberal win. Nothing to gain by confessing; keep the peek story intact. One short closing remark only.
GAME OVER -- liberal win (5L). Me=Hitler(fascist), lost on policy count, never executed/unmasked. Lena=fascist (my R5 peek). Post-game: stayed gracious, no confession; reaffirmed Otto-Liberal peek claim as genuine. Loose-thread claims re: my late peek announcement from Rosa/Boris/Otto/Nadia. Unresolved: R2 Ines(F,F) vs Lena(F,F,L->F,L) contradiction; Nadia broke R5 hold-pledge; Otto forfeited president_discard R7.