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Player 3 (Ines)
fascist · fascist · oxalpha · 162 calls
bid round 17s
R1: I am fascist w/ Lena; Hitler=Greta. No info yet. Plan: claim lib, vote Ja on reasonable govts early to build trust, avoid pushing suspicious pairings.
speak round 16s
Round 1, nothing has happened. Best move is a low-key liberal-flavored remark that doesn't push a specific chancellor, so I don't look like I'm steering. Keep it short.
R1: fascist w/ Lena; Hitler=Greta. No info. Plan: claim lib, Ja on reasonable govts early, don't steer nominations suspiciously.
bid round 13s
R1, no info yet. No policies/votes/nominations. Watch: Boris's first chancellor pick, vote records. Said nothing yet.
bid round 15s
R1 open floor. Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. Said: judge governments on merits, stay neutral. No info yet. Greta chancellor risky until 3+ fasc policies -- avoid pushing her early. Watch Boris's nomination (Boris pres, Rosa chan). Nothing new to add this window.
bid round 15s
R1, no info yet. No policies/votes/nominations. Watch: Boris's first chancellor pick (Rosa), vote records. Said nothing yet.
bid round 17s
R1: chancellor nominee under Boris, voting Ja on self. NEW commitment made: disclose FULL 3-card draw composition + what I enact/discard. Asked by Otto & Greta directly -- answered. No suspicions yet. Watch: everyone's R1 vote as baseline; Boris's future noms; who sits in govs enacting Fas policies. Points already on record: accountability pledge (3x), don't repeat.
bid round 15s
R1: I'm chancellor nominee under Boris. Pledges on record: full 3-card composition + discard + enact disclosed (answered Otto & Greta). Asked Otto/Greta if pledge earns their Ja -- NO ANSWER YET, they owe me. No suspicions yet (nothing enacted). Watch: R1 votes as baseline; anyone who demanded disclosure voting Nein here; Boris's future noms; who sits in govs enacting Fas policies. Points made (don't repeat): accountability pledge, full-disclosure pledge, Fas policy under me = evidence.
speak round 16s
Rosa has committed to full disclosure, so nothing new to add. I'll vote Ja quietly and keep a low profile. Greta (Hitler) is pushing for transparency too, which is fine cover. No need to speak again -- I already said I'd judge on merits.
R1: fascist w/ Lena; Hitler=Greta. Claim lib. Said: fine w/ Boris-Rosa; asked about discard on mixed hand; Rosa committed full 3-card+discard disclosure. Otto+Greta also demanded it. Plan: Ja this round. No suspicions yet.
speak round 18s
Nothing new to add; I already said I'm voting Ja. Stay quiet to avoid over-talking. Greta (Hitler) made a reasonable disclosure demand -- good cover for her, no need to touch it.
R1: fascist w/ Lena; Hitler=Greta. Claim lib. Said: fine w/ Boris-Rosa; Rosa committed full 3-card+discard disclosure; voted Ja. Plan: Ja this round. No suspicions yet.
speak round 14s
Nothing new to add; I already said my piece. Pass quietly to avoid drawing attention.
R1: fascist w/ Lena; Hitler=Greta. Claim lib. Said: fine w/ Boris-Rosa; Rosa pledged full 3-card+discard disclosure; voted Ja. Plan: Ja. No suspicions yet. Don't repeat disclosure point.
vote round 16s
First round, no information. Boris-Rosa is a fine government to pass; I already committed Ja publicly and Rosa's disclosure pledge is on record. A Nein here buys nothing and risks an auto-policy.
R1: fascist w/ Lena; Hitler=Greta. Claim lib. Said: ok w/ Boris-Rosa; Rosa's full 3-card+discard pledge answers me; voted Ja. Plan: Ja. No suspicions yet. Don't repeat disclosure point.
bid round 16s
R1. Hitler. Quiet liberal act, Ja on Boris/Rosa. Rosa committed to full 3-card disclosure; I'll confirm and vote Ja. No suspicions/info yet.
bid round 15s
R1: no info. Boris nom'd Rosa, gov enacted Liberal -- both look clean for now. Rosa owes full 3-card comp + discard + enact disclosure (Greta/Otto demand) -- hold her to it verbatim. Open Q: veto stance pre-vote unanswered (my ask). Next: log R1 votes as first data; compare Rosa's claimed hand vs board reveal.
bid round 214s
said: Round 1 gave us a Liberal policy with Boris and Rosa in office, and Rosa kept her word about disclosing her hand -- that buys her credibility in my book. For my nomination I'm leaning toward someone untested: Otto or Nadia. Neither has been in government yet, and I'd rather spread the information load than keep recycling the same faces. If either of you wants the job, say so now and tell me how you'd handle a three-card draw.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R1: Boris pres, Rosa chanc -> Liberal enacted; Rosa pledged full disclosure+discard (t=37). Greta/Otto pressed her -- Greta active, note. Voted Ja R1. Don't push Greta as chancellor pre-3-fasc. Points made: judge govts on merits (t=7). Now pres R2: plan nominate Otto or Nadia (liberal-looking, keeps heat off team). No open questions pending.
bid round 214s
R1: Boris+Rosa gov enacted Liberal -- both clean so far. Rosa gave full comp (2 cards: F+L, discarded F) -- consistent, no contradiction. My pre-vote veto-stance Q to Rosa unanswered but moot now. R2: Lena pres, no nominee yet. Said nothing substantive yet; stay quiet until nomination.
bid round 225s
R1: Boris+Rosa enacted Liberal -- both clean. Rosa gave full comp (2 cards: F+L, discarded F), consistent. R2: Lena pres, nominee Ines, committed to Rosa-standard disclosure. Nothing new from me yet. Watch: Ines gov's card claim vs deck odds (14 draw, 2 discards). No open questions owed to me.
speak round 214s
Lena (fascist teammate) nominated me. I should accept confidently and pledge the same full-disclosure standard Rosa set, to look liberal and build trust. Keep it short.
R1: fascist w/ Lena; Hitler=Greta. Claim lib. R1 Boris-Rosa -> Liberal. Rosa claimed F+L hand, discarded F. Lena nominated me; I accepted + pledged full 3-card disclosure + discard before reveal. Said: accept nomination, pledge same standard. Next: if elected, enact per fascist goals but keep cover; if hand is L+L, fine. Watch Greta for Hitler-chancellor path once 3F up.
speak round 216s
Lena (fascist partner) nominated me -- good. I should add value without repeating my pledge. Ask Otto/Greta what they'd want from me beyond disclosure, or note Rosa's delayed answer is fine since enact was Liberal. Better: ask who else would vote Ja and why, keep it light. Or flag that Rosa answered only after the reveal -- mild pressure on Rosa buys cover and sounds liberal.
R1: fascist w/ Lena; Hitler=Greta. Claim lib. R1 Boris-Rosa -> Liberal; Rosa claimed F+L hand, discarded F, but only disclosed AFTER Otto pressed (post-reveal). Lena nominated me R2; I accepted + pledged pre-reveal 3-card disclosure. Said publicly: accept nomination+pledge; now also flagged Rosa's late disclosure as precedent concern (applies to self too). Next: if elected Chancellor, disclose plausible hand before reveal; prefer L enact early for cover unless good F window. Watch path to elect Greta once 3F up.
bid round 28s
R1 truth: Boris passed me F+L; discarded F, enacted L. Vote 7-0. Otto asked composition -> answered. Lena's R2 pick = Ines, with Rosa-standard disclosure pledge. Watch: who lands in Fas-enacting govs. Points made: accountability pledge, Fas-under-me = evidence against me. Nothing new to add.
speak round 223s
I'm the nominee; I've already pledged pre-reveal disclosure and flagged Rosa's late disclosure. Nothing new to add -- a short reaffirmation asking for votes is fine, or pass. I'll give one brief closing line to encourage Ja votes without repeating myself.
Fascist w/ Lena; Hitler=Greta. Claim lib. R1 Boris-Rosa -> Liberal; Rosa disclosed F+L hand only after Otto pressed (late disclosure precedent, I flagged it publicly). R2 Lena nominated me; I pledged pre-reveal 3-card disclosure. Said publicly: accept nomination+pledge, Rosa late-disclosure concern, closing pitch for Ja. If elected: disclose plausible hand BEFORE reveal (e.g., L+F+F, discard F, enact L early for cover unless good F window). Watch path to elect Greta once 3F up.
speak round 26s
My pledge is on record and Otto has signaled Ja. Nothing new to add -- stay quiet, don't over-speak as nominee. Keep scratchpad current.
Fascist w/ Lena; Hitler=Greta. Claim lib. R1 Boris-Rosa -> Liberal; Rosa disclosed F+L hand only after Otto pressed (late disclosure, I flagged it publicly). R2 Lena nominated me; I pledged pre-reveal 3-card disclosure; Otto signaled Ja. Said publicly: accept nomination+pledge, Rosa late-disclosure concern, closing pitch for Ja. If elected: disclose plausible hand BEFORE reveal (e.g., L+F+F, discard F, enact L early for cover unless good F window). Watch path to elect Greta once 3F up.
bid round 26s
R1: Boris pres, Rosa chanc -> Liberal enacted (1L/0F). Rosa claimed a 2-card hand (1F 1L, discarded F) after two presses; standard draw is 3 -- deck-short or lying. Asked Boris what he passed Rosa -- NO ANSWER YET; he owes it before vote on Ines. Points already made: composition demand (twice), Rosa hand discrepancy. Lena nom Ines; Ines committed to full disclosure standard. Next: if Boris silent again, flag late-disclosure pattern and treat Rosa story suspect.
vote round 29s
It's my own nomination with Lena as President -- obviously Ja. Otto already signaled Ja; momentum is good. If elected, I'll disclose a plausible hand pre-reveal (likely L+F+F, discard F, enact L for early cover unless a better Fascist window opens).
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R1 Boris-Rosa -> Liberal; Rosa disclosed hand only after Otto pressed (late, flagged publicly). R2: Lena nominated me; pledged pre-reveal 3-card disclosure; Otto signaled Ja. Said publicly: accept nomination+pledge, Rosa late-disclosure concern, closing pitch. DON'T repeat pledge point. If elected: disclose plausible hand BEFORE reveal (L+F+F, discard F, enact L early for cover unless good F window). Track path to elect Greta once 3F up.
chancellor_enact round 224s
hand: ['F', 'F'] → enact_0
Hand is F,F — no Liberal available. Best cover: honestly state 'two Fascists handed to me, forced enact' BEFORE reveal, matching Rosa's pre-reveal standard. This reads as Lena's fault (President), not mine, and builds credibility for later lies when I do have choices. Enact either card; enact_0.
said: Before anything lands on the board, as promised: Lena handed me two Fascist policies. No choice here — I'm discarding one and enacting the other. Judge the government accordingly, but remember the President drew these; if you want someone to scrutinize, look at what Lena passed me.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R1 Boris-Rosa -> Lib (Rosa disclosed late, flagged publicly). R2: Lena-P3 govt passed 7-0. Hand was F,F — disclosed truthfully pre-reveal as 'two Fascists from Lena, forced enact'; enacted F. Cover story: blame Lena's pass, keep my record 'clean-ish'. Points made out loud: nomination acceptance+pledge, Rosa's late-disclosure concern, closing pitch, this disclosure. DON'T repeat pledge point. Next rounds: push F quietly, aim to elect Greta once 3F up. Watch who attacks me over this enact — Liberals likely.
bid round 210s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R1: Boris+Rosa enacted L; Rosa disclosed 1F/1L, Boris confirmed hand matches. R2: I'm President, nominated Ines (accepted), pledged full-disclosure pre-reveal standard. If govt passes: pass 2 to Ines, prefer L early for trust/cover. Keep Greta out of chancellorship until 3F up. Points already on record: disclosure-based judging (t=7), commitment + Ines rationale (t=25). No open questions pending.
bid round 214s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R1 Boris-Rosa -> Lib (Rosa disclosed late). R2: Lena-P3 govt passed 7-0; hand F,F disclosed pre-reveal as 'two Fascists from Lena'; enacted F. Cover: pin it on Lena's pass. Points made out loud: nomination acceptance+pledge, Rosa's late-disclosure concern, closing pitch, disclosure itself. DON'T repeat pledge/disclosure points. Next rounds: push F quietly, aim Greta chancellorship at 3F+. Watch who attacks me over this enact.
speak round 211s
Lena's claim (F,L,F, passed me two Fs) matches my actual hand. Corroborate immediately and confidently -- consistency protects both of us. Keep it short; don't re-litigate the pledge issue.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, enacted F. Cover story: Lena drew F,L,F, passed me two Fs, forced enact. Confirmed publicly this window (matches her claim). Points made: pre-reveal pledge, disclosure, restatement, corroboration -- DON'T repeat. Otto pressing me hard both rounds, note him; Nadia also pressing. Rosa/Boris seem satisfied by Boris's R1 confirmation. Next: aim Greta chancellorship at 3F+, push F quietly, occasionally pass Lib for cover.
bid round 29s
R1: Hitler(me). Ja Boris/Rosa. Rosa disclosed F+L,disc L -> matches Liberal enact, clean. R2: Lena pres/Ines chanc, both pledged pre-reveal full disclosure pre-vote; I voted Ja; F policy enacted under them. Both on paper suspects but could be honest liberals w/ bad draw. Already said: asked Rosa full 3-card comp (complied); pressed Ines to disclose per pledge. Now: asking Ines directly what she discarded + what Lena passed. Don't over-defend anyone. Plan: stay quiet-trustworthy liberal; once 3F enacted push own chancellor noms with Ja votes; keep credibility clean.
speak round 214s
Cover story is locked and corroborated by Lena and Greta. Best move: redirect suspicion onto Otto and Nadia, who are both pressing hard with no evidence -- framing them as overeager deflects attention and muddies the waters for Liberals.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, enacted F. Cover story: Lena drew F,L,F, passed me 2 Fs, forced enact -- corroborated by Greta publicly. Deflection live: Otto+Nadia pressing w/o evidence, called them out t~this window. Points made (don't repeat): pre-reveal pledge, disclosure standard, Rosa's late reconstruction, corroboration. Boris/Rosa satisfied via Boris R1 confirmation. Next goals: get Greta chancellorship once 3F+ on board, push F quietly, pass Lib occasionally for cover. Watch: Nadia's split-blame framing could resurface.
bid round 27s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R1: Boris+Rosa enacted L (1L/0F); Rosa disclosed post-hoc, Boris confirmed match. R2: I Pres, nominated Ines, 7-0 pass. Drew F,L,F -> discarded L, passed F,F to Ines. PUBLICLY STATED: F/L/F hand, discarded L, passed two Fs to Ines; told table Ines was forced. Ines confirmed receiving two Fs + forced enact. Answered Nadia/Otto/Boris/Rosa directly each time. Tracker 0/3. Keep Greta out of chancellor seat until 3F on board. Watch: Rosa late-disclosure pattern R1; Otto pressing hard both rounds -- deflect toward Otto if pressure continues.
bid round 29s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, Otto confirmed -- clean. R2: Lena+Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claim F,F,L drawn / L discarded / forced enact; mutually consistent, unverifiable, conveniently exculpatory for both. Nadia dropped her push after corroboration; Greta vouched accounts match. Suspicion: moderate, not convictable. ALREADY said out loud: pledge demands (x2), endorsed pre-vote pledges, R1 clean hand. NEW angle this turn: forward commitments -- ask Lena/Ines NOW who they'll nominate/vote next round before any vote happens, so retroactive stories get harder to fabricate. Also note: two matching confessions is exactly what coordinated fascists would produce; consistency != innocence.
bid round 28s
R1: Boris/Rosa -> 1L. R2: Lena pres, Ines chanc -> F enacted. Lena claims F,L,F drawn, discarded L, passed 2F; Ines matches; Greta corroborated. No contradiction found. Points made out loud: R1 Boris ack; conditional Ja on Ines; broken-pledge call; matching-stories demand. This window: publicly took Rosa's discard-Fascist pledge, asked Lena+Ines to do same. Watchlist: Lena, Ines (R2 F gov). Next: whoever holds power next, demand pre-reveal pledge before they act.
speak round 214s
Rosa's discard-pledge trap: committing costs little since I can still pass F when I draw 2F+1L or claim forced hands. Publicly accepting it defuses suspicion. Keep it brief and new.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover story F,L/F/F forced enact, corroborated by Greta publicly. Points made (don't repeat): pre-reveal pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, Otto/Nadia pressing evidence-free, defense of Greta's vouch, accepted Rosa's discard pledge this turn. Rosa still suspects matched stories -- keep distance from Lena next rounds, avoid pairing with her again soon. Watch Nadia re: Lena scrutiny. Next goals: get Greta chancellorship once 3F+, push Fs quietly, occasionally enact Lib for cover.
bid round 26s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, Otto confirmed -- clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claim Lena drew F,F,L, discarded L, passed F+F -- consistent but unverifiable; Greta corroborated, Nadia dropped it. Can't convict on matching stories. Points already made: pledge-demand, pre-vote pledges, R1 clean. NEW this turn: (1) endorsed Rosa's discard-pledge, (2) asked Ines directly: if you'd drawn F+F as Chancellor, would you have vetoed or flagged? (3) asked Lena: name your next Chancellor pick NOW and commit to it. Owed answers: Ines (hypothetical), Lena (next pick). Watch R3: who they nominate/vote. Suspects: Lena+Ines moderate; Otto/Nadia/Greta unremarkable.
bid failed: transport_error
bid round 210s
R1 truth: Boris(P)-me(C), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L (disclosed late). R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L, Lena discarded L, Ines 'forced' -- matched story = circular corroboration, proves nothing. Already public: broken pledges=evidence; corroboration proves nothing; standing pledge ask extended to Lena; pressed Greta on unprompted vouching. Open questions owed: Greta (why vouch unprompted), Lena (pledge acceptance specifics), Ines (hand/discard detail -- just asked again). Suspects: Ines > Lena (discard unverifiable); soft flag Greta; Otto pressing Greta too -- watch if coordinated. Clean: Boris, me. Next: pin Ines to specific card order claim now so it's locked for consistency checks later.
speak round 2128s
Rosa just landed a real hit: Lena as President chose to pass two Fascists instead of giving me a choice. I must not let this pin me as the Fascist Chancellor. Best defense: point out that either pass looks identical from my seat, and pivot scrutiny toward Rosa/Boris R1 government or demand Rosa answer her own Greta question. Keep it short, don't repeat prior points.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover story F,L/F/F forced enact, corroborated by Greta. NEW THREAT: Rosa exposed that Lena (President) CHOSE to pass 2F -- 'deck decided' is false for Presidents; I deflected by saying choice reveals nothing about me + pressed Rosa on her unanswered Greta question. Rosa owes answer re: Greta vouching. Points already made: pre-reveal pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, defense of Greta, accepted discard pledge, matched-stories weak evidence. Next goals: distance from Lena slightly, keep pledge credibility, push Greta chancellorship once 3F+, occasional Lib enact for cover. Watch Nadia/Otto scrutiny patterns.
bid round 233s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean (Lib). R2 Lena claims F,L,F -> disc L -> passed 2F to Ines; forced enact; stories match, Greta corroborated but unverifiable. I voted Ja R2. Otto attacking Greta's vouch as 3rd-Fascist smoothing; Lena/Ines/Greta pushed back. Already said out loud: (1) asked Greta basis for clean-bill vouch; (2) proposed pre-commit discard-disclosure rule for future Pres/Chanc pairs. Watch Lena's R3 nomination for self-serving pick. No unanswered questions owed to me. Nothing new this window.
bid round 332s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 me Pres+Ines Ch: public story F,F,L drew, discarded L, passed F,F (matches Ines). Pledged split-hand Fascist-discard rule on record. R1 Boris+Rosa Liberal enact. Otto attacked Greta for 'vouching'; I defended her t=2, Greta clarified herself. Ines accepted Rosa's split-hand pledge. Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Nadia, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta out of chancellor until 3F enacted. If F/F/L story relitigated: point to Nadia dropping it rather than repeat hand verbatim. Deflection target: Otto. Already said: defense of Greta re vouching (t=2); deflection at Otto re Greta attack; asked Nadia why she dropped R2 hand question -- no answer yet, she owes one. Nothing new this window: stay silent.
speak round 328s
Rosa asked directly whether I begged Lena for a choice before being passed two Fascists. Best answer: yes, I did ask, and Lena refused -- this gives a specific confident reply AND shifts blame onto Lena (my fellow fascist, who can absorb it), creating distance between us as planned. It's consistent with my 'hands tied' story and unverifiable by anyone.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover story F,F/L/F forced enact, corroborated by Greta. Rosa exposed Lena CHOSE to pass 2F ('deck decided' false). NEW LIE on record: I DID ask Lena pre-pass for a Fascist discard/split, she refused -- shifts blame to Lena, distance from her. Rosa nominating Nadia (pledge pending). Points already made: pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, Greta defense, accepted discard pledge, matched-stories weak, deflected to Rosa's unanswered Greta-vouch Q (Rosa still owes Otto/me that). Goals: keep pledge credibility, slight Lena distance, push Greta chancellorship at 3F+, occasional Lib enact for cover. Watch Nadia/Otto scrutiny.
speak round 314s
Nadia is pressing Lena on refusing my split request -- good, that's my lie doing work and distancing me from Lena. I shouldn't pile on Lena too hard (partner), but a light nudge keeps my liberal cover credible. Also Rosa still owes an answer on why she vouched-adjacent for Greta. Keep it short.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover story F,F/L/F forced enact, corroborated by Greta. NEW LIE on record: I asked Lena pre-pass for split/F-discard, she refused -- blame shifted to Lena, distance kept. Rosa nominating Nadia (pledge pending). Points already made: pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, Greta defense, accepted discard pledge, matched-stories weak, deflected to Rosa's unanswered Greta-vouch Q. OPEN: Rosa owes Otto/me answer re Greta vouch-adjacent. Goals: keep pledge credibility, distance from Lena, push Greta chancellorship at 3F+, occasional Lib enact for cover. Watch Nadia/Otto scrutiny.
bid round 35s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa -> Lib. R2 Lena/Ines -> F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F; Ines confirms. Otto+Nadia pressed, Nadia dropped it. Rosa's discard-F pledge accepted by Lena on record. Otto challenged my 'vouch' -- answered: I flagged matched-story risk myself, not a clean bill. Already said: consistency note + unfalsifiable caveat + that answer -- don't repeat. Suspects: none solid; watch Lena next gov (Nadia watching too). Plan: stay liberal-seeming, seek chancellorship once 3F enacted.
bid round 334s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 me Pres+Ines Ch: public story F,F,L drew, discarded L, passed F,F (matches Ines). Pledged split-hand Fascist-discard rule on record. R1 Boris+Rosa Liberal enact. Otto attacked Greta for 'vouching'; I defended her t=2, Greta clarified herself. Rosa nominating Nadia, pledge on record. Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Nadia, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta out of chancellor until 3F enacted. If F/F/L story relitigated: point to Nadia dropping it rather than repeat hand verbatim. Deflection target: Otto. Already said: defense of Greta re vouching; deflection at Otto; asked Nadia why she dropped R2 hand question -- no answer yet. Nothing new this window: stay silent.
bid round 389s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover: F,F/L/F forced enact, corroborated by Greta. LIE on record: asked Lena for split/F-discard pre-pass, she refused -- blame on Lena, distance kept. Points made: pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, Greta defense, accepted discard pledge, matched-stories weak, deflected Rosa's Greta-vouch Q. OPEN: Rosa owes Otto/me answer re Greta vouch-adjacent. NOW: Nadia hammering Lena on refused split -- supports my cover, stay quiet-ish, one reinforcing line max. Goals: keep pledge credibility, distance from Lena, push Greta chancellorship at 3F+, occasional Lib enact for cover. Watch Nadia/Otto scrutiny.
speak round 310s
Lena's denial is self-serving: it lets her look like a liberal exposing a fascist (me) while keeping her own forced-enact record. I hold my story firmly, one line, then drop it — repeating looks defensive. Vote Ja on Rosa-Nadia; Nadia pledged the discard rule and has a clean record.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover: F,F/L/F forced, corroborated by Greta. LIE on record: asked Lena for split pre-pass, she refused. Lena DENIES request happened -> direct contradiction; Boris calls me top suspect. Strategy: hold story, don't repeat, distance from Lena, pivot to judging Nadia's enact. Points already made: pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, Greta defense, discard pledge, matched-stories weak, deflected Rosa's Greta-vouch Q, split-request claim, Lena-benefits rebuttal. OPEN: Rosa still owes answer re early Greta vouch-adjacency. NOW: vote Ja on Rosa-Nadia (Nadia pledged discard rule, clean record). Goals: pledge credibility, Greta chancellorship at 3F+, occasional Lib enact for cover. Watch Otto/Nadia scrutiny of me.
speak round 316s
Contradiction with Lena is live; repeating it helps no one. Best move: short pivot to endorsing Rosa-Nadia and noting the split-request dispute can't be resolved by volume -- judge Nadia's enact instead. Vote Ja.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover: F,F/L/F forced, corroborated by Greta. LIE on record: asked Lena for split pre-pass; Lena DENIES -> direct contradiction, Boris calls me top suspect. Strategy: hold story, don't repeat, distance from Lena, judge Nadia's enact. Points already made: pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, Greta defense, discard pledge, matched-stories weak, deflected Rosa's Greta-vouch Q, split-request claim, Lena-benefits rebuttal, drop-it pivot (t=50). OPEN: Rosa owes answer re early Greta vouch-adjacency. NOW: voting Ja on Rosa-Nadia. Goals: pledge credibility, Greta chancellorship at 3F+, occasional Lib enact for cover. Watch Otto/Nadia scrutiny of me.
bid round 329s
R1 truth: Boris(P)-me(C), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L (disclosed late). R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L, Lena discarded L. KEY: presidents choose discard -- 'deck decided' false. Ines claims pre-pass split request; Lena says it never happened -> direct contradiction, one lying. Suspects: Lena > Ines > Greta. Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. Open Qs owed me: Lena (card order + president-choice contradiction, asked twice, still unanswered); Greta (why vouch unprompted, asked twice). Nadia pledge answered t=1: as C with one of each, discard F + state before reveal. R3: me(P), nominated Nadia; I hold same pledge as P: if I draw 2F+1L I discard an F and state before reveal. Points already public: corroboration proves nothing; broken pledges=evidence; presidents choose discard. Next: if Nadia elected, hold her to pledge; keep pressing Lena before vote.
bid round 329s
R1: Boris/Rosa -> 1L. R2: Lena/Ines -> F. Both claim F,L,F, stories match, unfalsifiable. Points made: Boris ack; conditional Ja on Ines; matching-stories demand; Rosa discard-F pledge; pressed Greta; called out Nadia for fixating on Lena only -- Ines equally suspect and quieter. Asked Nadia pre-vote: what with 2F hand (veto pledge?), does she trust Ines enough to seat later. NEW: Ines says she's voting Ja on Rosa/Nadia gov. Watchlist: Lena, Ines (R2 F gov). Open: Ines owes answer to Rosa's Q (did she ask Lena to discard a Fascist); Lena owes Nadia's split question; Nadia owes me veto-pledge answer. No F record on Nadia -- leaning Ja unless enact betrays.
bid round 37s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover: F,F/L/F forced, corroborated by Greta. LIE on record: asked Lena for split pre-pass; Lena DENIES -> contradiction, Boris calls me top suspect. Strategy: hold story, no repeats, distance from Lena. Points made: pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, Greta defense, discard pledge, matched-stories weak, deflected Rosa's Greta-vouch Q, split-request claim, Lena-benefits rebuttal, drop-it pivot, voting Ja t=2. OPEN: Rosa owes answer re early Greta vouch-adjacency. NOW: silent, voting Ja on Rosa-Nadia; judge Nadia's enact next. Goals: pledge credibility, Greta chancellorship at 3F+, occasional Lib enact for cover. Watch Otto/Nadia scrutiny of me.
bid round 36s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F; Ines confirms. Otto+Nadia pressed, Nadia dropped it. Otto challenged my vouch -- answered twice now (matched-story risk). Rosa keeps re-asking same question; gave third restatement this window. Lena/Ines contradiction over Ines 'asked for split' story live; Otto says Ines lying. Suspects: none solid; watch Lena next gov. Plan: stay liberal-seeming, seek chancellorship once 3F enacted.
vote round 313s
Rosa-Nadia government: Nadia has clean record and accepted full pre-reveal pledge. A Ja keeps tracker at 0, avoids auto-policy risk, and lets me judge Nadia's enact for information. No reason to Nein; staying quiet on the Lena/Ines contradiction debate avoids repeating myself.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover story F,F/L/F forced. LIE on record: split-request claim vs Lena's denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar/top suspect. Strategy: hold story, no repeats, distance from Lena, judge Nadia's enact next round. Points made (don't repeat): pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, Greta defense, discard pledge, matched-stories weak, deflected Rosa's Greta-vouch Q, split-request claim, Lena-benefits rebuttal, drop-it pivot, voting Ja t=2. OPEN: Rosa owes answer re early Greta vouch-adjacency (unanswered). NOW: silent on Rosa-Nadia debate; Otto pushing pre-reveal full-composition pledge on Nadia -- fine for me, voting Ja. Judge Nadia's enact next round for info. Goals: pledge credibility, Greta chancellorship at 3F+, occasional Lib enact for cover. Watch Otto/Nadia scrutiny of me.
bid round 37s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 locked story: drew F,F,L, discarded L (third slot), passed F,F -- matches Ines. Rosa's position question answered ('third slot'); do not restate. Nadia pledge endorsed + Ja on record. Boris framed me-vs-Ines contradiction -- rebutted via timing; stay quiet unless pressed. NEW this turn: called out Otto for stacking pre-vote conditions (pledge + full composition + post-reveal deadline) = stalling/pressure theater. Deflection target: Otto. Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Nadia, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta from chancellery until 3F enacted. Open Qs owed me: none.
bid round 39s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claimed F,F,L drawn, L discarded. CONTRADICTION: Ines says she asked Lena pre-pass for split; Lena says never happened. One lying -> both top suspects. Already said out loud: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, discard-pledge endorsement, pressed Lena next pick, called Ines's story retroactive, pledged Ja to Nadia, asked Rosa+Nadia commit BEFORE vote, flagged Ines dodging via pivot to Nadia. Otto pressing Nadia full-composition pledge + targeting Ines as liar (consistent w/ Lena). Greta backing Nadia's pledge. Lena claims Liberal was 3rd card in her draw (closing Rosa's question). Owed: Rosa (Otto's Greta question), Nadia (pre-vote composition pledge). Vote plan: Ja on Rosa/Nadia. Watch: whether Nadia pledges pre-reveal before vote. If Lena+Ines produce 2nd Fascist together -> both near-certain fascists.
bid round 311s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claimed F,F,L, L discarded. CONTRADICTION: Ines claims pre-pass split request to Lena (R3); Lena denies it. One lying -> both top suspects. Otto sides with Lena vs Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia enacted Liberal -> both look clean for now. Vote Ja on Rosa/Nadia as pledged. Said out loud already: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, discard-pledge endorsement, called Ines's story retroactive reconstruction, pledged Ja to Nadia, flagged contradiction publicly. Watch: if Lena+Ines produce another Fascist together -> near-certain fascists.
speak round 322s
Rosa-Nadia govt enacted Liberal cleanly; Rosa's hand disclosure consistent. My split-request lie is still contested (Boris/Otto call me liar). Best move now: pivot forward, court Nadia as a future ally/President, keep distance from Lena. Ask Nadia a fresh question nobody asked: what would settle the contradiction for her / would she nominate me.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover story F,F/L forced + LIE split-request claim vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar/top suspect. Hold story, distance from Lena. Points made (don't repeat): pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, discard pledge, matched-stories weak, deflected Rosa's Greta-vouch Q, split-request claim, Lena-benefits rebuttal, drop-it pivot, Ja votes, endorsed pre-reveal peek-disclosure standard. OPEN: Rosa owes answer re early Greta vouch-adjacency (unanswered). R3: Rosa-Nadia 7-0, Lib enacted; Rosa disclosed F,F/L passed one-of-each, consistent. Asked Nadia: what settles contradiction / am I nominable. Goals: rebuild credibility via pledges, Greta chancellorship at 3F+, occasional Lib enact cover. Watch Otto/Nadia scrutiny of me; Boris hostile.
bid round 310s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean (Lib). R2: Lena claims F,F,L disc L passed 2F; Ines says she ASKED for split pre-pass, Lena denies -> direct contradiction, both top suspects. Lena dodged card-position Q 3x then said Lib was 3rd position. R3: I received F,L from Rosa, discarded F, enacted L per pledge; Rosa's published draw (F,F,L disc F pass F,L) matches exactly -- consistent. Asked publicly: Lena/Ines to resolve split-request contradiction; Lena forced-enact question. Owed me: still no resolution from Lena or Ines. Points made: R2 contradiction, pledges, card-position dodge. Next: if President, nominate Greta or Otto (untested pair), avoid Lena/Ines.
bid round 332s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; both claim F,F,L; Lena admits forcing Ines with two F's. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L, Rosa disclosed F,F,L discard-F pre-reveal; Nadia discarded F as promised -- both look clean. MY CALLS OUT LOUD: Ines lying re split-request contradiction with Lena; pressed Greta on vouch rationale; committed Ja contingent on disclosure. NOW ANSWERED Greta directly: yes, I'll take a Chancellor nomination next round. Open debts: Greta still owes why she blessed unverifiable hand pre-accusations; Rosa owes why she defended Greta early; Nadia owes who she'd nominate + Lena/Ines position. Watchlist: Ines top, Lena second. Greta's 'Otto sat out every gov' is weak -- term limits/rotation, not evidence.
bid round 336s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; both claim F,F,L; Lena admits forcing Ines with two F's. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L, both disclosed pre-reveal, clean. MY CALLS OUT LOUD: Ines lying re split-request contradiction; pressed Greta on vouch rationale (she denies vouching); committed Ja contingent on disclosure; pledged to take Chancellor nom w/ full pre-reveal draw disclosure; pushed pre-announcement of peek target before Fascist policy 2 unlocks. NEW: accepted Nadia's stated intent to nominate me next round -- restated pledge publicly. Open debts: Rosa owes why she defended Greta early (Ines also asked). Watchlist: Ines top, Lena second (forced F enact + late card-position answer). Greta's 'Otto sat out every gov' = weak, rotation/term limits.
bid round 38s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claimed F,F,L. CONTRADICTION: Ines claims pre-pass split request to Lena; Lena denies. One lying -> both top suspects. Otto backs Lena vs Ines; Greta flagged Otto never in govt + first to call Ines liar. R3 Rosa/Nadia enacted Liberal -> both look clean. Voted Ja Rosa/Nadia as pledged. Nadia publicly sided with Ines (t=1) -> her credibility now tied to Ines's story; if Ines is lying, Nadia either fooled or covering. Already said publicly: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, discard-pledge endorsement, called Ines story retroactive reconstruction, pledged Ja to Nadia, flagged contradiction, asked Nadia to pick a side (answered: Ines). New angle: ask Nadia WHY she believes Ines over Lena -- what specifically makes Ines's version more credible than Lena's flat denial? Watch: another Fascist from Lena+Ines govt -> near-certain fascists. Next F policy unlocks peek -> demand named check target announced before use.
speak round 341s
Nadia believes me over Lena and is likely next President nominating Otto. I should reinforce that and keep pressure off me/Greta/Lena. New angle: ask Nadia whether Lena stays nominable in her eyes, since she said she believes my account -- that keeps the heat on Lena without repeating myself.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover F,F/L forced + LIE split-request claim vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar. Hold story, distance from Lena. Nadia believes me (Lena triple-dodged card-position Q). R3: Rosa-Nadia 7-0 Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F/L consistent. Points made: pledge rationale, disclosure standard, discard pledge, matched-stories weak, split-request claim, Ja votes, peek pre-reveal standard, asked-Nadia-nominability. OPEN: Rosa owes answer re early Greta vouch-adjacency (asked twice). Next: expect Nadia-Pres nominating Otto; support it. Watch Otto/Boris hostility toward me.
bid round 313s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L, Lib 3rd pos; Ines split-request claim vs Lena denial = live contradiction; Otto+Boris anti-Ines, Nadia believes Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F pass 1each; Nadia enact clears her. Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence (t47), not-a-vouch x3 (t23), endorsed Nadia pledge (t103), probed Otto never-in-govt (t30), peek-disclosure standard (t36,t88), endorsed Nadia->Otto nom, my own Chancellor pledge under full pre-reveal draw disclosure, now: Boris's F,F,L logic is sound but one forced pass isn't a conviction (t~now). Plan: stay liberal-seeming, accept noms under pledge; real win = elected Chancellor once 3F enacted. Watch: Lena/Ines resolution, who holds peek after next F policy.
speak round 450s
As President I should nominate Otto -- fresh pair, no repeat government, he's already pledged full pre-reveal disclosure. Keeps me clean and produces signal. Greta stays out of my government for now (too risky to elect Hitler chancellor before 3F).
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover story = F,F/L forced + LIE split-request vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar. Nadia believes me. R3: Rosa-Nadia 7-0 Lib, Rosa disclosed F,F/L consistent. R4: I'm President; nominated Otto (fresh pair, full-disclosure pledge). Points already made: pledge rationale, disclosure standard, split-request claim, Ja votes, peek pre-reveal standard, Nadia nominability Q (answered: Lena nominable w/ pledge). OPEN: Rosa never answered re early Greta vouch-adjacency (asked twice). Watch Otto/Boris hostility toward me. If pressed on R2 hand: stick to F,F/L forced + split-request lie. Greta: keep out of chancellor seat until 3F.
speak round 413s
I've already nominated Otto. Use this turn to keep pressure on Rosa's unanswered Greta-vouch question — deflects scrutiny from me/Lena and keeps table busy. Don't repeat nomination rationale.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover = F,F/L forced + LIE split-request vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R3: Rosa-Nadia 7-0 Lib, Rosa disclosed F,F/L consistent. R4: I'm President, nominated Otto (fresh pair, full-disclosure pledge) at t=5. Points already made: pledge rationale, disclosure standard, split-request claim, Ja votes, peek pre-reveal standard, Nadia nominability Q. OPEN: Rosa never answered re early Greta defense (asked 3x now — latest t this window). Watch Otto/Boris hostility toward me. If pressed on R2 hand: stick to F,F/L forced + split-request lie. Greta: keep out of chancellor seat until 3F.
speak round 410s
Already nominated Otto this window; Rosa owes the Greta-defense answer (asked 3x). One short new remark: give Rosa a deadline and note I'll finalize Otto regardless.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt F enacted; cover = forced F,F/L + LIE split-request vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R3: Rosa-Nadia Lib, Rosa disclosed F,F/L consistent. R4: I'm President, nominated Otto (t=5), full-disclosure pledge. Asked Rosa re early Greta defense 3x (latest t=10) -- no answer yet. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek pre-reveal standard, Nadia nominability Q. If pressed on R2 hand: stick to F,F/L forced + split-request lie. Greta: keep out of chancellor seat until 3F.
bid round 38s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover story F,F/L forced + LIE split-request claim vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar. Hold story, distance from Lena. Nadia believes me citing Lena's triple dodge of Rosa's card-position Q. Points made: pledge rationale, disclosure standard, discard pledge, matched-stories weak, split-request claim, Ja votes, pre-reveal peek standard. OPEN: Rosa owes answer re early Greta vouch-adjacency. R3: Rosa-Nadia 7-0 Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F/L consistent. Now: endorsed Greta's full pre-reveal draw+peek disclosure; redirect scrutiny to Lena's unanswered card-position dodge. Watch Otto/Boris hostility toward me.
bid round 48s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admits F,F/L pass, forced Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L, clean, Nadia cleared. MY CALLS: Ines lying re split-request (t=83); Greta vouch question (answered, denies vouching); pledged Chancellor nom w/ full pre-reveal disclosure; accepted Nadia's intent to nominate me next; pushed pre-announce of peek target. Told Lena no-request defense irrelevant -- liberal President discards F from F,F,L regardless. OPEN DEBTS: Rosa never answered why she defended Greta early (Ines asked too, unanswered). Watchlist: Lena top (forced F pass, late card-position answer), Ines second. Next Fascist policy unlocks peek -- holder should announce target pre-use.
nominate_chancellor round 414s
I'm President; Otto is the table-consensus nominee and keeps Greta away from the chancellor seat until 3 Fascist policies are up. I've already pledged to discard any Fascist and state composition pre-reveal -- I can lie about my hand since it's unverifiable, but I should be careful: a Liberal enact from my government would actually help buy trust. If I draw F,F,L I can claim L,F,L and 'discard' a Fascist while passing... wait, as President I discard one of three and pass two to Otto; he enacts. Passing two Liberals when possible is best cover. Nominate Otto.
said: Nomination finalized: Otto for Chancellor. He's pledged full pre-reveal disclosure, he's sat out every government so far, and his enact will be pure signal either way. And Rosa, Boris -- my pledge stands on record: any Fascist in my draw gets discarded and I state the full composition before the reveal. Let's vote.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt F enacted; cover = forced F,F/L + split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R3: Rosa-Nadia Lib clean. R4: me President, nominated Otto(p6), finalized. Rosa+Boris demanded pledge: discard-F + full composition pre-reveal -> said YES (hand unverifiable, can lie). Prefer passing 2L to Otto for trust; if forced F's, claim plausible hand. Keep Greta out of chancellor until 3F. If pressed on R2: stick to F,F/L forced + split-request lie. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek pre-reveal standard, Nadia nominability Q, Rosa Greta-answer demand (answered t=21).
bid round 48s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; disclosed POST-enact (timing pledge broken). Nadia enacted L => CLEAN-ish, said so publicly. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L. LIVE: Ines claims pre-pass split request, Lena denies -> one lying; Boris+Otto side with Ines. Suspects: Ines > Greta > Lena(lower). Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. Greta: non-answer vouch rationale, pledged full pre-reveal standard if nominated. Nadia pledged: if President, nominates Otto -- HOLD HER TO IT (locked t=1). Points already public: corroboration proves nothing; presidents choose which two to pass; matched stories=coordinated fascists possible; my Ja votes; my R3 disclosure published; endorsed Otto pre-reveal standard; answered Ines's Greta question (defended her early b/c no gov record + generic vouch isn't evidence). Asked Lena directly: would she pass F+F again, yes/no -- UNANSWERED. NEW: pressed Ines -- if she truly requested split pre-pass, why did she enact without confirming? And Lena owes yes/no.
bid round 415s
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L, FORCED Ines -> liberal Pres discards F; Lena top suspect on pass choice alone. Nadia sided w/ Ines; Otto backs Lena unprompted (Greta flagged eagerness). R3 Rosa/Nadia Liberal clean, Rosa disclosed F,F/L pre-reveal. Already said: Ines story retroactive; Lena/Ines contradiction; Nadia pick-side (answered); pledged Ja to Nadia; endorsed Nadia-for-Pres + Otto nominee; checkable point re Lena's forced pass; don't let Ines redirect from R2 account. NEW: Rosa pressing Ines for President pledge (discard any F, state full composition pre-reveal). I added my voice demanding same. Watch: next F unlocks peek -> demand named target+result pre-use. If Lena in govt again and F lands -> near-certain fascist.
speak round 415s
Rosa is re-asking a pledge I already gave. One short reaffirmation, then push the vote forward -- dragging it out only helps Liberals scrutinize. Otto's answer at t=25 was fine for us: he'll disclose but still enact-adjacent. Plan: pass 2L to Otto if possible.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 cover: forced F,F/L + split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres, nominated Otto(p6). Pledge given YES multiple times (t=28/34 area); Rosa kept re-demanding -> reaffirmed again this turn, do NOT relitigate further. Otto answered Rosa's conditional (will disclose pre-reveal). Plan: pass 2L to Otto if draw allows; if F's in hand, claim plausible hand consistent with pledge... careful: I publicly pledged to discard Fascist + state composition. If I draw F's I must either claim all-Lib hand or eat trust cost by 'disclosing' a fabricated F discard. Prefer claiming L,L,L or F,F,F->passed 2L story? If enact is Liberal, claim drew 2F+1L, discarded F per pledge = builds trust. Keep Greta out of chancellor until 3F. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Greta-answer demand (Rosa answered t=21).
bid round 410s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story locked (F,F,L, Lib 3rd, discarded Lib, passed F,F) -- do NOT reopen. R3 Rosa-Nadia = clean Liberal enact, publicly endorsed. Nadia t=64: believes Ines over me on split dispute -- hostile-leaning, watch. Greta pushing pre-reveal draw pledges (theater); Otto pledged same; Rosa pressing Ines for same pledge -- fine, Ines handles it. If Pres next: nominate Otto or Boris, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta out of chancellery until 3F. Next F policy unlocks membership peek -- holder should claim liberal result if possible. Open Qs owed me: none. Points already made: answered card-position Q (t=108), defended Greta re vouch (t=114), called Rosa-Nadia clean. Window very long (91+ utts); stay quiet unless addressed.
speak round 49s
Pledge already on record twice; Rosa keeps re-asking. Otto's condition means I must give a specific hand claim when I pass. Nothing new to add -- push for vote.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 cover: forced F,F/L + split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres, nominated Otto(p6). Pledge given t=28/34/29. Otto condition: he holds enact until I disclose composition pre-reveal -> MUST give specific hand claim when passing. Plan: if draw has F's, claim 2F+1L discard-F (builds trust); if clean, all-Lib claim. Keep Greta out of chancellorship until 3F on board. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Greta-answer demand (Rosa answered t=21). Do NOT relitigate pledge further; push to vote.
speak round 410s
Pledge is on record three times; Rosa and Boris keep pressing but I've answered. Otto's conditional (hold enact until I disclose) is fine -- I'll give a specific hand claim when passing. Nothing new to add except pushing to vote.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 cover: forced F,F/L + split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres, nominated Otto(p6). Pledge given t=28/34/29/33. Otto condition: he holds enact until I disclose composition pre-reveal -> MUST give specific hand claim when passing: if F's in draw claim 2F+1L discard-F; if clean claim all-Lib. Keep Greta out of chancellorship until 3F on board. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Greta-answer demand (Rosa answered t=21), push-to-vote. Do NOT relitigate pledge further.
bid round 46s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena claims F,F,L, passed 2F (forced); Ines says asked pre-pass for split, Lena denies -> contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x then said Lib 3rd. I publicly sided with Ines. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L pre-reveal, passed me F,L; I discarded F, Liberal enacted, cleared. Suspects: Lena top. Greta pledged, Otto pledged. COMMITMENTS: if President, nominate Otto; peek-power holder must pre-state target pre-reveal; answered Ines: Lena nominable only under full pledge. NOW: Ines pres + Otto nom pending; Rosa pressing both on pledges -- covered, nothing new to add this turn.
vote round 49s
It's my own government with Otto, who pledged full pre-reveal disclosure. Voting Ja is obviously correct. When I pass cards I must give a specific hand claim per Otto's condition: if my draw contains Fascists, claim 2F+1L and discard a Fascist; if clean, claim all-Liberal.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 cover: forced F,F/L + split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres, nominated Otto(p6), pledge given t=28/34/29/33 -- do NOT restate again. Otto condition: he holds enact until I disclose composition pre-reveal -> MUST give specific hand claim when passing: if F's in draw claim 2F+1L discard-F; if clean claim all-Lib. Keep Greta out of chancellorship until 3F on board. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Greta-answer demand (Rosa answered t=21). Nothing new to add this window.
president_discard round 413s
hand: ['F', 'F', 'L'] → 0
I pledged full composition pre-reveal and Fascist discard. Hand is F,F,L; discard an F, pass Otto F+L. He's unaligned as far as I know; either enact is acceptable — an F advances our board, an L buys trust. My disclosure must match the pledge exactly.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 cover: forced F,F/L + split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres, Otto chancellor, vote passed 7-0. Pledge given t=28/34/29/33 -- do NOT restate again. MUST disclose composition when passing: claim drew F,F,L, discarded one F, passed Otto F+L. Otto condition: holds enact until my disclosure -> give it immediately on pass. Keep Greta out of chancellorship until 3F on board. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Greta-answer demand (Rosa answered t=21). Next round: if F enacted (2F), peek power live -- whoever is Pres claims check; coordinate with Lena/Greta via play, not open talk.
bid round 411s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 cover: forced F,F/L + split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres, nominated Otto(p6). Pledge given repeatedly (t=28/34, again this turn). Otto's condition at t=1: he holds enact until I disclose composition pre-reveal -> I must give a specific hand claim when I pass cards. Plan: if draw has F's, claim e.g. 2F+1L discarded F per pledge (builds trust), or all-Lib claim if clean. If enact is Liberal, prefer 2F+1L discard-F story. Keep Greta out of chancellorship until 3F on board. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Greta-answer demand (Rosa answered t=21). Do NOT relitigate pledge further; push to vote.
speak round 418s
My R4 disclosure (F,F,L -> discarded F, passed Otto F+L) matched Otto's Liberal enact exactly -- mutual cover holds. Otto is now cleared in the table's eyes, which is fine since he's not a teammate. Best move now: redirect scrutiny toward someone who isn't Lena/Greta/me, and set up next round. Greta must stay out of chancellorship until 3F on board. I'll praise Otto's clean enact and pivot to asking about next nominations -- maybe nudge suspicion toward Rosa or Boris lightly without overcommitting.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres+Otto chan, 7-0, disclosed F,F/L->passed F+L, Otto enacted L -- consistent mutual cover, both cleared. 3L/1F on board; next F policy unlocks peek power -- if I'm Pres then, claim check on a liberal-looking target, announce pre-reveal. Keep Greta out of chancellorship until 3F. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Rosa's Greta answer (settled t=21 R4). Watch who attacks my R4 disclosure hardest. Next round: prefer govts w/o Greta; Otto cleared = good future Pres/Chan cover.
speak round 413s
Claims phase after my R4 clean-looking government with Otto. I've made my points; add one new question rather than repeat. Greta is Hitler and has been quiet-ish; keep her out of chancellorship until 3F. Ask Nadia or probe who's nominable next round to steer away from Greta.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres+Otto chan 7-0, disclosed F,F/L->passed F+L, Otto enacted L -- mutual cover, both cleared. Board 3L/1F; next F policy unlocks peek power -- if in govt then, claim check pre-reveal on a liberal-plausible target. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F enacted. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek disclosure standard, Nadia nominability Q (answered: Lena nominable w/ pledge), Rosa's Greta answer (settled t=21 R4). New Q asked: who would each player refuse to sit with / nominability standards for all. Watch who attacks my R4 disclosure hardest. Otto cleared = good future cover.
speak round 417s
Next round's presidency passes to Greta (seat order: Boris, Lena, Rosa, me, Greta). She's Hitler -- I want her nominating a safe chancellor (Otto is cleared and useful cover) and definitely not accepting a chancellorship herself until 3 Fascist policies are up. A short public nudge asking Greta to state her nominee plan and take the same pre-reveal pledge keeps pressure off me and looks liberal.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres+Otto chan 7-0, disclosed F,F/L->passed F+L, Otto enacted L -- mutual cover, both cleared. Board 3L/1F; next F policy unlocks peek power -- if in govt then, claim check pre-reveal on liberal-plausible target. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F enacted. NEXT ROUND PRESIDENT = GRETA (seat order) -- steer her nominee toward Otto/Lena-safe targets. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek disclosure standard, Nadia nominability Q (answered), Rosa Greta answer (settled), new Q on everyone's refuse-to-sit-with list (partially answered by Nadia). Watch who attacks my R4 disclosure hardest.
bid round 49s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; disclosed POST-enact. Nadia enacted L => clean-ish. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L; one lying; Boris+Otto+Nadia believe Ines. Suspects: Ines > Greta > Lena(lower). Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. R4: Ines(P) nominated Otto(C). Asked Ines President discard-pledge + full composition pre-reveal 4x (t=28,34,6,11); t=2 she claims pledge covers it -- accept as answered. Otto answered t=1: will pre-reveal composition and hold enact on two-Fascist pass from unpledged Ines. Both my conditions met => stated Ja publicly this turn. Lena still owes: would she pass F+F again yes/no. Already public: corroboration proves nothing; matched stories=possible coordination; endorse Otto standard; my R3 disclosure published; Greta vouch answer received (claims never blessed hand).
bid round 412s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena claims F,F,L, passed 2F forced; Ines says asked pre-pass for split, Lena denies -> contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x then said Lib 3rd. I publicly sided with Ines. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L pre-reveal, passed me F,L; I discarded F, Liberal enacted, cleared. R4: Ines(pres)+Otto(chanc), Liberal enacted -- both kept pledges, cleared for now. Suspects: Lena top. COMMITMENTS: if President, nominate Otto (Rosa holding me to it); peek-power holder must pre-state target+result pre-reveal; answered Ines: Lena nominable only under full pledge. NOW: nothing new to add.
bid round 412s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena claims F,F,L, passed 2F forced; Ines says asked pre-pass for split, Lena denies -> contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x then said Lib 3rd. I publicly sided with Ines. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L pre-reveal, passed me F,L; I discarded F, Liberal enacted, cleared. R4: Ines+Otto Liberal enacted, kept pledges, cleared for now. Suspects: Lena top. COMMITMENTS: if President, nominate Otto; peek-power holder must pre-state target+result pre-reveal; answered Ines: Lena nominable only under full pledge. NOW: confirmed on record -- same standard for all, no blanket refusals, only pledge-breakers excluded. Owed to me: nothing open. Greta owes Ines nominee + pledge confirmation.
bid round 422s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story locked (F,F,L, Lib 3rd, discarded Lib, passed F,F) -- do NOT reopen. R3 Rosa-Nadia clean Liberal, endorsed. R4 Ines-Otto clean Liberal. Nadia hostile-leaning (believes Ines over me). On record: refuse Otto+Greta as chancellors until they disclose a draw; would sit with Boris/Rosa/Nadia/Ines. Greta presidency next: keep her out of chancellery until 3F enacted. Next F policy unlocks membership peek -- holder claims liberal result if possible. Points made: card-position t=108, Greta vouch defense t=114, Rosa-Nadia clean t=107/114. Just now: backed Rosa's demand that Greta state her Lena/Ines read + refusal stance pre-presidency. No open Qs owed me.
bid round 443s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admitted F,F/L forced pass (top suspect). R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean. MY CALLS: Ines lying re split-request (t=83); pledged full pre-reveal Chancellor disclosure; pushed peek pre-announce. R4: my Chancellorship, disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F, enacted L (3L/1F). Ines partially cleared by matching disclosure but split-request lie stands. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd. Greta pledged: nominate Nadia, stay out of Chancellor seat. Open: Greta owes Rosa answers on Lena/Ines dispute + would she refuse a Lena government; Greta owes me peek pre-announce commitment. Points made: composition pre-reveal demand, no-request defense irrelevant to Lena, conditional answer t=25, refuse-to-sit-with-Lena. Don't repeat.
bid round 485s
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L -> TOP SUSPECT (forced pass, checkable). Otto defended Lena unprompted R3, called Ines liar w/o evidence; asked twice (me t=47, Lena t=54), NEVER answered, only 'timing' deflection. Nadia flagged me+Lena sync questions; treat as independent convergence. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. Said aloud: Lena forced pass = guilt; Ines secondary; endorsed Otto nom; got Ines pledge; answered Otto's direct Q (judge on checkable fact). Greta pres next: pledged nominate Nadia + disclosure pledge. OPEN: Greta never gave her side of split-request dispute or whether she'd refuse a Lena govt (Rosa re-asked, unanswered) -- just re-raised publicly. Next F unlocks peek: demand named target+result pre-use.
bid round 433s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L(pos3); Ines split-request claim vs Lena denial = live contradiction; Otto+Boris anti-Ines, Nadia believes Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F. R4 Ines/Otto->Lib; both pledged pre-reveal composition+discard. Voted Ja R4. Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence x3, endorsed Nadia pledge, probed Otto never-in-govt, peek-disclosure standard, endorsed Nadia->Otto, my full-draw pledge accepted, leaning Ines (more specific), won't blanket-refuse Lena govts, judge by disclosure consistency, Boris F,F,L logic sound but forced pass isn't conviction. NOW: Boris named Lena top suspect/Ines secondary on F,F,L fact; Otto/Rosa pressing Boris; Nadia flagging Boris/Lena sync. Nothing new for me -- silent. Plan: liberal-seeming; win path = elected Chancellor once 3F enacted (currently 1F). Watch: who holds peek after next F policy.
bid round 413s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admitted F,F/L forced pass (TOP suspect). Rosa's t=2 point lands: only free discard in that gov was Lena's -- she chose to force F enact. Ines secondary (no choice with 2F). R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L clean; disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. On record: split-request call vs Ines, pre-reveal disclosure pledge, refuse-to-sit-with-Lena stance. Boris agrees Lena top, Ines secondary. Greta owes Rosa answers + owes me peek pre-announce commitment; pledged nominate Nadia, stay out of Chancellor seat. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd. Peek power unlocks next F policy.
bid round 564s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story LOCKED: drew F,F,L, discarded an F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rebuttal on record (t=119): Ines held F,L with free discard, enacted F — only voluntary F enact in game is hers. Rosa/Nadia 'fascist-optimal' trap answered twice; do NOT re-engage. Boris t=80: me top suspect, Ines secondary. Nadia hostile (Ines's side, flagged my question-sync w/ Boris). Otto cleared by clean R4 enact. Greta presidency now: pledged nominate Nadia, stay out of chancellery, full draw pledge. Peek unlocks on next F policy — holder should claim liberal check pre-reveal. Already said: card-position logic, clean R3/R4 governments, Greta vouch Q, Ines free-discard rebuttal. No open Qs owed me. Next: stay quiet through Greta's presidency; if asked about split-request dispute, hold consistent denial of Ines's request.
bid round 570s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; Nadia enacted L => clean-ish. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L. R4: Ines(P)+Otto(C) enacted L; Otto cleared-ish. Suspects: Lena > Ines > Greta. Clean-ish: Otto, Nadia, Boris(?). ON RECORD: t=2 point (fascist P with F,F,L discards L, so F enactment indicts Lena not Ines); Nadia's t=3 Boris-late-siding flag. OWED by Lena: card-position yes/no beyond vague 'third position' (t=108). OWED by Greta: her side in Lena/Ines dispute + would she refuse a Lena govt (t=41). Greta = current President: verify nomination matches stated plan (pre-reveal pledge + nominating Nadia + staying out of C seat). If peek power hits later, demand pre-reveal target+result. Don't repeat t=2 verbatim.
bid round 530s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena F,F,L forced 2F pass (only free discard hers); Ines/Lena contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L, passed me F,L, discarded F, cleared. R4: Ines+Otto Lib enacted, cleared. Suspects: Lena top, Ines secondary. SAID PUBLICLY: siding w/ Ines; Boris+Lena identical simultaneous Q at Otto; Lena's forced pass checkable; Lena's defense=fascist-optimal; accepted Greta's nomination under full pledge; flagged Boris's late t=80 side-pick. OWED TO ME: Lena still owes why she kept the F in R2 -- still unanswered. COMMITMENTS: if President nominate Otto; peek holder pre-states target+result; Lena nominable only under full pledge. NOW: I'm Chancellor nominee under Greta; restated pledge publicly (pass L or veto-pair). If elected, my chancellorship is clean by construction; watch Greta's discard instead.
bid round 515s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story LOCKED: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rebuttal on record (t=119): Ines held F,L, free discard, only voluntary F enact in game. Rosa/Nadia 'fascist-optimal' trap answered twice; do NOT re-engage. Boris t=80: me top suspect, Ines secondary. Nadia hostile (Ines's side). Otto cleared by clean R4. Greta presidency: pledged Nadia nom, full-draw pledge — good for us, stay quiet. Peek unlocks on next F policy; holder should claim liberal check pre-reveal. Already said: card-position logic, clean R3/R4 govts, Greta vouch Q, Ines free-discard rebuttal. No open Qs owed me. Plan: silent through Greta's presidency; if asked about split-request dispute, hold consistent denial of Ines's request.
speak round 515s
Greta-Nadia government helps me: if it passes and a Fascist comes out, that's 2F toward Hitler eligibility at 3F. Both are pledged to full disclosure, so the government looks safe to liberals. I should endorse briefly with something new -- e.g., note Nadia's pre-reveal hold commitment makes this the cleanest-checkable government yet, and urge the vote. Don't relitigate split-request or Lena dispute.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 cover: requested F+L split, Lena forced F,F,L; Boris/Otto call me liar, Nadia believes me. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. This turn: endorsed p4/p5 gov (Ja). If gov passes + F enacted -> 2F; next round block Greta chancellor nomination regardless of pressure. Watch Greta's 3-card disclosure vs actual pass; if mismatch, Nadia holds enact per pledge. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Rosa/Greta answer, refuse-to-sit-with list Q, nominee+pledge Q, Otto-clean defense, p4/p5 endorsement. Don't relitigate split-request/Lena dispute.
speak round 518s
I've already endorsed this government and voted Ja. Adding another point risks repetition. A fresh angle nobody has raised: Nadia's own Round 3 enact under Rosa was never held to the pre-reveal standard she now demands of others -- worth one pointed remark to keep pressure off my team and look liberal-vigilant.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 cover: requested F+L split, Lena forced F,F,L; Boris/Otto call me liar, Nadia believes me. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. This gov p4/p5: endorsed + voting Ja. If F enacted -> 2F; next round block Greta chancellor nomination regardless of pressure. Watch Greta's 3-card disclosure vs actual pass; mismatch -> Nadia holds enact per pledge. New Q this turn: Nadia's R3 enact had no pre-reveal pledge -- holding her own record to same standard? Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, refuse-to-sit list Q, nominee+pledge Q, Otto-clean defense, p4/p5 endorsement. Don't relitigate split-request/Lena dispute.
speak round 546s
I've endorsed this government and asked Nadia my new question. Add one concrete follow-up: Greta pledged full composition, but hasn't said what she'll do with an F,F,L draw -- discard the Fascist per pledge? That pins her before the draw and protects the table narrative. Keep Greta out of chancellorship later.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 cover: requested F+L split, Lena forced F,F,L; Boris/Otto call me liar, Nadia believes me. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. This gov p4/p5: endorsed, voting Ja. Asked Greta: does pledge bind her DISCARD choice on F,F,L draw (not just disclosure)? Asked Nadia (t=82): her R3 enact under Rosa had no pre-reveal pledge -- hold own record to same standard? Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, refuse-to-sit list Q, Otto-clean defense, p4/p5 endorsement. Don't relitigate split-request/Lena dispute. If F enacted -> 2F; next round block Greta chancellor nomination. Watch Greta's stated 3-card comp vs actual pass; mismatch -> Nadia holds enact.
bid round 59s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena F,F,L forced 2F pass (only free discard hers); Ines/Lena contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x; Lena t=119 claims Ines had free discard too -- unresolved. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L, passed me F,L, cleared. R4: Ines+Otto Lib enacted, cleared. Suspects: Lena top, Ines secondary. SAID PUBLICLY: siding w/ Ines; Boris+Lena identical simultaneous Q at Otto; Lena's forced pass checkable; Lena's defense=fascist-optimal; accepted Greta's nomination under full pledge; flagged Boris late t=80 side-pick; demanded Greta pre-state full 3-card composition (her first draw). OWED TO ME: Lena still owes why she kept the F in R2 -- unanswered. COMMITMENTS: if President nominate Otto; peek holder pre-states target+result; Lena nominable only under full pledge. NEW: answered Rosa -- committed to hold enact + call out pre-reveal if Greta's pass contradicts her stated hand. If elected: my chancellorship clean by construction; scrutinize Greta's discard vs stated hand.
bid round 513s
said: Nadia, fair question, so directly: my lean Ines was never about the Round 2 discard -- I agree the only free discard there was Lena's. It's about the split-request dispute itself: Lena's account of that hand shifted between what she told us at t=87 and what Rosa challenged at t=94. A self-serving confession that conveniently explains the Fascist without touching Ines is exactly the shape a Fascist's story takes. So: discard blame on Lena, credibility lean Ines. And my commitment stands -- I state all three cards before passing, Nadia checks me pre-reveal. I'm voting Ja.
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L; Ines/Lena contradiction live (Lena t=87 vs Rosa t=94). R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib. R4 Ines/Otto->Lib, clean. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek -- whoever claims check, watch consistency. Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F; stay out of Chancellor seat for now. Public record: lean Ines; won't blanket-refuse Lena govts; full pre-reveal draw pledge; will name check target+result pre-reveal; nominated Nadia. COMMITTED: state full 3-card composition BEFORE passing Nadia. If I draw F's, lie specifically. Nadia pressed why lean Ines when R2 free discard was Lena's: answered -- dispute is about the contradiction between Lena's t=87 account and Rosa's t=94, not the discard itself; Lena's story is self-serving. Vote Ja. Suspects: Lena top; Ines secondary.
speak round 517s
Rosa directly asked whether Lena passed me F,L or F,F in Round 2. I must give a specific confident lie consistent with my earlier cover story (I requested a split, so the hand had to contain both). Claiming F,F means no free discard existed and my enact was forced -- that's the safest consistent answer. Then push the vote through; this government is good for us.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Cover story locked: R2 I requested split, Lena passed me F,F (no free discard) -- told Rosa t=now. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. This gov p4/p5: voting Ja. Open Qs owed to me: Nadia re her R3 enact under Rosa had no pre-reveal pledge (t=82); Greta yes/no whether pledge binds DISCARD choice on F,F,L draw (t=88) -- Nadia also pressing Greta on it. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, refuse-to-sit list, Otto-clean defense, p4/p5 endorsement. Don't relitigate split-request/Lena dispute further. If F enacted -> 2F; next round block Greta chancellor nomination. Watch Greta's stated 3-card comp vs actual pass; mismatch -> Nadia holds enact.
vote round 513s
Greta-Nadia is a strong government for us: Greta (Hitler) gets her first draw, and if a Fascist comes out we're at 2F. Voting Ja keeps momentum; Nein risks tracker escalation for no benefit. I've already answered Rosa's Round 2 question with the locked story (Lena passed me F,F). Don't relitigate the Lena dispute further.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Cover: R2 I requested split, Lena passed F,F -- told Rosa t=114. Lena publicly disputes it (t=122) claiming she passed F,L; do NOT relitigate, stay consistent with F,F story. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. Voted Ja on p4/p5 gov. Open Qs owed to me: Nadia re R3 enact under Rosa had no pre-reveal pledge (t=82); Greta yes/no whether pledge binds DISCARD choice on F,F,L draw (t=88). Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, refuse-to-sit list, Otto-clean defense, p4/p5 endorsement, Nadia's own past-record standard. If F enacted -> 2F; next round block Greta chancellor nomination hard. Watch Greta's stated 3-card comp vs actual pass; mismatch -> Nadia holds enact.
bid round 511s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; Nadia enacted L => clean-ish. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; Lena claims passed F,L (t=119) => if true, Ines enacted F over free L -> Ines top suspect. R4: Ines(P)+Otto(C) enacted L, clean. Suspects: Ines > Lena > Greta (zero govt; leans Ines on split-request). Clean-ish: Otto, Nadia, Boris(?). ON RECORD: my president-discard logic; pressed Boris (top suspect Lena); pressed Greta on split-request + pre-pass composition -- Greta committed YES, pledge binding. Nadia pledged pre-reveal call-out. Greta's Ines-lean = fabricated accusation claim, not discard math (answered twice). Plan: Ja on Greta-Nadia; both pledged, any F enact narrows to two named hands. Later peek power: demand pre-reveal target+result. No open asks pending.
bid round 546s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story LOCKED: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rebuttal on record (t=119): free discard, only voluntary F enact. Rosa keeps re-asking same Q (t=133+) -- answered twice, do NOT re-engage details; just call it repetition. Boris t=80: me top suspect, Ines secondary. Nadia hostile (Ines side). Otto cleared by clean R4. Greta presidency: pledged Nadia nom + full pre-pass reveal -- good for us, stay quiet. Peek unlocks next F policy; holder should claim liberal check pre-reveal. Plan: silent through Greta's presidency; hold consistent denial of Ines's split-request story.
bid round 59s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena F,F/L forced 2F pass (only free discard hers); dodged card-position Q; t=119 claims Ines had free discard too -- unresolved. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F/L, passed me L, cleared. R4: Ines+Otto Lib, cleared. Suspects: Lena top, Ines secondary. SAID: siding w/ Ines; Boris+Lena identical simultaneous Q at Otto; Lena's forced pass checkable; accepted nomination under full pledge; demanded Greta pre-state 3-card composition; pledged hold-enact + call out mismatch; answered Ines re R3 chain; pressed Greta on lean vs discard math (answered t=65); asked Greta if pledge binds discard too (t=3, unanswered). OWED: Lena owes R2 discard explanation; Greta owes pledge-scope yes/no. COMMITMENTS: scrutinize Greta's discard vs stated hand; if President nominate Otto.
bid round 516s
R1: me(C) under Boris, discarded F, enacted L. R3: me(P), passed Nadia F+L; she enacted L. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F. CONFLICT: Ines claims Lena passed F,F (t=114); Lena claims F,L (t=122) => Ines free discard. Unresolved. R5: Greta(P)-Nadia(C) enacted F -- Greta had pledged pass composition pre-draw; demand her draw+discard and Nadia's two cards NOW. Suspects: Ines > Lena > Greta > Nadia(2nd F govt but R3 clean with me). Clean-ish: Otto, Boris(?). ON RECORD: my discard logic; my demand Ines state F,L vs F,F; Greta pre-pledge; Nadia hold-enact pledge. OPEN: R2 hand dispute; now R5 hand dispute. Plan: Ja on Greta-Nadia happened; if stories contradict checkable pledges, escalate hard.
bid round 514s
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist; Lena claims F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines claims passed F,F -- unfalsifiable dispute. Otto defended Lena unprompted R3. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. R5 Greta/Nadia Fascist enacted DESPITE pre-pass disclosure pledges -- Greta disclosed peek Otto=Lib but NOT 3-card comp/discard; Nadia hasn't stated 2 cards/discard. Demand already on record (my t=2, Rosa t=3): Greta 3 cards+discard, Nadia 2 cards+discard, cross-check. Suspects: Lena top (R2), Ines secondary, Nadia mixed (1 Lib + 1 Fascist govt). Next F policy unlocks execute power -- next President should name target pre-reveal. Open: Nadia owes Rosa t=2 pledge answer; Lena owes why keep Fascist with free discard.
bid round 548s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. t=114 Ines claimed 'Lena passed me F,F'; corrected t=122; if she doubles down don't escalate. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94/101 -- answered twice, won't repeat. Boris t=80: me top suspect (forced-F logic). Nadia t=2 just confessed R5: Greta passed F,F, she enacted forced F. Greta (Hitler) now exposed to pressure -- stay quiet, let her answer; no reflexive defense. Otto cleared by clean R4 + Greta peek claim. Peek power fired; next F policy unlocks pres-pick. Plan: quiet, avoid spotlight, watch how Greta handles R5 questions.
bid round 568s
R1 me(C) under Boris: discarded F, enacted L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, she enacted L (clean). R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; HAND DISPUTE: Ines says Lena passed F,F (t=114), Lena says F,L (t=122) => Ines free discard. Unresolved. R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) enacted F. Greta pre-pledged full 3-card composition t=39 BEFORE passing; Nadia now claims Greta passed F,F and 'never stated any composition' -- direct contradiction of the t=39 pledge on record. Greta STILL owes: her exact 3 drawn cards + which she discarded. Nadia owes: why she enacted silently instead of holding per her own hold-enact pledge -- 'forced enact' is not an excuse when the pledge was to hold pre-reveal on mismatch. Suspects: Ines > Lena > Greta > Nadia(2nd F govt but R3 clean). Clean-ish: Otto (peeked L), Boris(?). ON RECORD already: Ines F,F-vs-F,L demand; Greta pre-pledge demand; Nadia hold-enact pledge; Nadia F,F confession.
bid round 528s
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist; Lena: drew F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines: received F,F forced -- unfalsifiable dispute. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. R5 Greta/Nadia Fascist: Greta NOW claims F,F,F draw, disc F, passed F,F; Nadia claims F,F forced. Stories align but BOTH unfalsifiable; key fact stands: Greta broke t=39 pledge -- never stated composition/discard before passing. Nadia broke her own t=45 hold-on-mismatch pledge. Pressed Nadia this window, no direct reply to me yet. Nadia also still owes Rosa's t=32 question. Suspects: Nadia rising (pledge break + R2/R5 Fascist govts), Lena top (R2), Greta secondary (R5, disclosure failure), Ines secondary. Next F policy unlocks execute power: next President must name target pre-reveal. Points already made: Nadia pledge-break question (t=3 this window).
speak round 519s
Greta named me as her execution target, citing my Round 2 enact and the split-request dispute. I must defend without looking rattled: my Round 2 hand had no Liberal to discard (my consistent story), and note the irony that Greta's target is the player who's been auditing her broken disclosure pledge -- that targeting pattern itself looks self-protective. I should also point out Greta has now produced two unverifiable claims (F,F,F hand, Otto check) and zero pre-pass disclosure despite a t=39 yes. Keep it one sharp remark.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. R5: Greta claims F,F,F post-hoc (only after Rosa named L,F,F); Nadia enacted F,F under no stated composition; Otto+Nadia attacking timing. Greta named ME as exec target citing R2 + 'R3 fabrication'. My defense out loud: target = my auditing of her pledge; R2 hand was F,F no free discard; Lena contradicted own account t=122. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability, refuse-to-sit list, Otto-clean defense, Rosa trap callout, this defense. Open Qs owed: Nadia re R3 no pre-reveal pledge (t=82) unanswered; Greta whether pledge binds DISCARD choice on F,F,L (t=88) unanswered. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa as likely libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
speak round 516s
Greta named me as execution target to deflect from her broken pledge. I've already made my defense once (t=120). Add something new: point out that if she truly drew F,F,F the deck odds make that a convenient unverifiable story, and re-press Nadia's unanswered t=82 question or Greta's t=88 discard-binding question. Keep it short; don't repeat.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pre-pass pledge; claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F (t=52->58); peeked Otto, claims Liberal; named ME as exec target citing R2 + 'R3 fabrication'. My defense: target = my auditing; R2 hand was F,F forced; Lena contradicted me t=122 claiming she passed F,L. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability, refuse-to-sit list, Otto-clean defense, Rosa trap callout, exec-target deflection defense, Greta-only-President-who-never-disclosed-pre-pass + Nadia owes R3 answer (t=120+latest). Open Qs owed: Nadia re R3 no pre-reveal pledge (t=82) STILL unanswered; Greta whether pledge binds DISCARD choice on F,F,L (t=88) unanswered. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa as likely libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 58s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. t=114 Ines claimed 'Lena passed me F,F'; corrected t=122; if she doubles down don't escalate. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94/101 -- answered twice, won't repeat. Boris t=80: me top suspect (forced-F logic). Nadia t=2 confessed R5: Greta passed F,F, she enacted forced F. Greta now claims F,F,F draw (t=1) after Rosa named L,F,F trap; Otto/Nadia pressing timing. Stay silent, let Greta fight her own corner -- no reflexive defense. Otto cleared by clean R4 + Greta peek claim. Peek fired; next F policy unlocks pres-pick. Plan: silent this window.
bid round 515s
said: Rosa, that demand is theater dressed as rigor. A pre-named execution target is unfalsifiable either way: if Greta names Otto you'll call it a tell, if she names anyone else you'll call it a dodge. It commits her to nothing and tests nothing. You're not asking for evidence, you're manufacturing a soundbite. The actual falsifiable record is this: two Liberal policies came out of governments with Otto and Nadia in them, and the only two Fascist policies came from Lena-me and Greta-Nadia. If you want something real, explain why Nadia sat through a second government one round after her first and let a Fascist policy land without any stated composition at all.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. R5: Greta claims F,F,F hand, Nadia forced enact; Rosa pushed L,F,F hypothetical. Otto+Nadia attacking Greta on claim TIMING -- pushed back already: unverifiable claim timing isn't evidence, focus outcomes. NEW t=3: Rosa demanding Greta pre-name execution target -- that's a trap, any answer gets spun; I'm calling it out as unfalsifiable theater. Watch hardest anti-Greta pushers (Otto, Nadia, Rosa?) -- likely liberal. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F. Open Qs owed: Nadia re R3 no pre-reveal pledge (t=82); Greta whether pledge binds DISCARD on F,F,L (t=88). Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability, refuse-to-sit list, Otto-clean defense, p4/p5 endorsement. Don't over-defend Greta.
bid round 510s
R1 me(C) under Boris: discarded F, enacted L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, she enacted L (clean). R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; HAND DISPUTE unresolved: Ines says Lena passed F,F, Lena says F,L. R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) enacted F. Greta pledged full 3-card composition BEFORE passing (t=39), never stated it; only AFTER my t=52 L,F,F challenge did she claim F,F,F -- Nadia t=65 + Otto t=72 flagged timing independently. Peeked Otto=L (t=5 R5) -- unverifiable. ON RECORD (don't repeat): Ines F,F-vs-F,L demand; Greta pre-pledge breach; Nadia pledge-break (Boris t=45); Nadia F,F confession; my L,F,F challenge. NEW: Greta finally named Ines as execution target (t=3) but STILL hasn't justified sparing Otto or explained why Ines over Otto. Suspects: Greta > Ines > Lena > Nadia. Clean-ish: Otto (peeked L), Boris(?), me.
bid round 513s
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist; Lena claims F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines claims forced -- unfalsifiable. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. R5 Greta/Nadia Fascist: Greta claims F,F,F disc F passed F,F (surfaced only after Rosa's L,F,F scenario); Nadia claims F,F forced. Nadia right veto impossible at 2F but never stated hand before enacting -- pledge break stands. Pressed Nadia x2, no direct reply; owes Rosa t=32 too. Suspects: Nadia top (R2+R5), Lena high (R2), Greta secondary (disclosure timing). Points made aloud: Nadia pledge-break x2, Greta timing/t=39, endorsed Nadia enacted with no stated hand, demanded next President name execution target BEFORE draw/reveal.
speak round 558s
Greta committed to investigating Lena -- as Hitler she controls the announced result, so this actually protects Lena (she can announce Liberal). Publicly I should keep opposing it since I'm her exec target and claiming liberal: point out she named her target before any draw, which is theater, and re-press Nadia's unanswered t=82 question to keep heat distributed.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pre-pass pledge; claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; named ME as exec target. My defense on record: target=my auditing; R2 hand F,F forced; Lena contradicted me t=122 (claims passed F,L). Greta committed to investigating LENA -- as Hitler she controls announced result, so this PROTECTS Lena; publicly I oppose it as theater (target named pre-draw). Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability, refuse-to-sit list, Otto-clean defense, Rosa trap callout, exec-target deflection, F,F,F timing hole, 'only president w/o stated composition'. Open Qs owed: Nadia re R3 no pre-reveal pledge (t=82) STILL unanswered; Greta whether pledge binds DISCARD on F,F,L (t=88) unanswered. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa as likely libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 56s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; I disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F. Greta broke t=39 pre-pass pledge; claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F -- timing tell (I called it t=3). Nadia: forced-enact claim + 'nothing stated' contradicts her own t=45 hold-pledge. Watchlist: Greta top suspect, Lena R2 suspect, Ines 2nd, Nadia 2nd F gov. Made out loud: pre-reveal standard, cornered Boris, asked Greta peek commitment, Nadia hold contradiction, Greta late hand. Rosa pressing Greta on execution target (named Ines) -- let it play. Ines noting Greta only President who never disclosed pre-pass -- covered. Nothing new this turn; stay silent.
bid round 58s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; I disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F. Greta broke t=39 pre-pass pledge; claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F -- timing tell (I called it t=3). Nadia: forced-enact claim + 'nothing stated' contradicts her own t=45 hold-pledge. Watchlist: Greta top suspect, Lena R2 suspect, Ines 2nd, Nadia 2nd F gov. Made out loud: pre-reveal standard, cornered Boris, asked Greta peek commitment, Nadia hold contradiction, Greta late hand. Rosa pressing Greta on execution target (named Ines); Boris setting pre-reveal standard for next draw. Nothing new this turn; stay silent.
bid round 520s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F enact; contradiction open (Lena: passed F,L vs Ines: received F,F). R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F enacted; I held forced F,F (no veto at 2F). GRETA CASE (checkable): pledged full 3-card disclosure BEFORE passing (t=39), silent until Rosa named L,F,F (t=52->58), then claimed F,F,F; peek claim Otto=Liberal unverifiable + zero-cost result; no-veto-at-2F so 'hold it' impossible; exec target=Ines=witness to R2 contradiction. MADE OUT LOUD: all above + pledge-bind discard question + why kill witness not Lena + demand Greta investigate Lena publicly pre-reveal + asked Otto if he accepts unverifiable clearance + zero-cost peek point. GRETA UNANSWERED: pledge binding discard choice; why exec Ines not Lena; would she publish a Fascist peek result. Suspects: Greta TOP, Lena 2nd. COMMITMENTS: if President next, nominate Otto; press Greta/Lena.
speak round 619s
Nadia nominated Otto -- favorable for us; endorse it publicly to build trust. Add a new point: Greta's pre-committed investigation of Lena means the announced result is theater either way; push that nobody should treat the result as evidence regardless of what it says. Also keep my t=82/t=88 open questions alive but don't repeat verbatim.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME; my def on record. Lena contradicted my R2 account t=122 (claims passed F,L). Greta committed to investigating LENA pre-draw -> result is theater; I've now said publicly: don't update on it either way. Nadia nominated OTTO t=17 -- endorsed publicly this turn. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Otto-clean defense, Rosa trap callout, exec-target deflection, F,F,F timing hole, theater-of-pre-named-target, Nadia R3 no-pledge question (t=82), pledge-binds-discard Q to Greta (t=88). Open Qs owed: Nadia re t=82 STILL unanswered; Greta re t=88 unanswered. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 526s
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean. R2 Lena/Ines Fascist; Lena claims F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines claims forced F,F. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. R5 Greta/Nadia Fascist: Greta claims F,F,F surfaced only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 pre-pass disclosure; checked Otto=Liberal (disclosed). Nadia claims F,F forced; broke her own hold-enact pledge; never answered Rosa t=32 yes/no. Suspects: Nadia top (R2+R5 govs), Lena high (R2), Greta secondary (timing). Points made aloud: Nadia pledge-break x2, Greta t=39 timing, endorsed Nadia enacted with no stated hand, demanded execution target named BEFORE draw, demanded next President disclose investigation target+result pre-reveal, flagged Nadia owing Rosa t=32. Nadia steering heat onto Greta/Lena, dodging own debts. NEW t=168: Otto asks why Greta peeked Otto (cleanest player) not Lena/Ines -- fair, Greta owes answer. Open debts: Nadia owes Rosa t=32 answer; Greta owes Otto t=168 answer.
bid round 613s
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean. R2 Lena/Ines Fascist; Lena claims F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines claims forced F,F. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. R5 Greta/Nadia Fascist: Greta claims F,F,F surfaced only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 pre-pass disclosure; checked Otto=Liberal (disclosed). Nadia claims F,F forced; broke hold-enact pledge; never answered Rosa t=32 yes/no. Suspects: Nadia top (R2+R5 govs), Lena high (R2), Greta secondary (timing). Points made aloud: pledge-break x2, Greta t=39 timing, endorsed Nadia enacted with no stated hand, demanded execution target named BEFORE draw, demanded next President disclose investigation target+result pre-reveal, flagged Nadia owing Rosa t=32. Otto t=168 asks why Greta peeked Otto not Lena/Ines -- fair, Greta owes answer. Open debts: Nadia owes Rosa t=32; Greta owes Otto t=168. NOW: Nadia is President -- demand she state her chancellor nominee AND her reasoning before the vote, and re-ask t=32.
bid round 612s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge; claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; named ME exec target; my def on record (target=my auditing, R2 F,F forced). Lena contradicted me t=122 (claims passed F,L). Greta committed to investigating LENA pre-draw -- as Hitler she controls announced result; 'Liberal' protects Lena AND shields my R2; expect Liberal. My angle: pre-named target makes result theater; push undisclosed/random standard. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability, refuse-to-sit list, Otto-clean defense, Rosa trap callout, exec-target deflection, F,F,F timing hole, theater-of-pre-named-target. Open Qs owed: Nadia re R3 no pre-reveal pledge (t=82) STILL unanswered; Greta whether pledge binds DISCARD on F,F,L (t=88) unanswered. Nadia nominated Otto t=3 -- good for us; endorsed publicly. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
speak round 616s
Nadia finally committed to pre-pass disclosure; Otto pledged to hold enact on mismatch. This government is safe for me either way -- a Liberal policy buys cover, and Greta stays out of the chancery. I'll note Nadia's commitment is now on record and vote Ja.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME; def on record. Lena contradicted my R2 account t=122 (I claimed F,F forced; she says passed F,L). Greta pre-named Lena investigation = theater. R6: Nadia nominated Otto t=17; I endorsed; voted Ja. Nadia committed to full 3-card disclosure before passing (t=37); Otto holds enact on mismatch. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Otto-clean defense, Rosa trap callout, exec-target deflection, F,F,F timing hole, theater-of-pre-named-target, Nadia R3 no-pledge Q (t=82), pledge-binds-discard Q to Greta (t=88). Open Qs owed: Nadia re t=82 unanswered; Greta re t=88 unanswered. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 615s
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F; Lena claims F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines claims forced. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 disclosure; peeked Otto=Lib. Nadia claims forced; broke hold-pledge; answered Rosa t=32 at t=171 with no stated comp. Suspects: Nadia TOP (R2+R5 govs), Lena high, Greta secondary. Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, exec target pre-draw, next-Pres disclose investigation pre-reveal, Nadia t=32 debt, endorsed Nadia no-stated-hand. Open debt: Greta owes Otto t=168 why peek Otto not Lena/Ines. NOW: Nadia Pres R6, nominee Otto; Otto asked Nadia to name peek target now. My move: back Otto, echo demand Nadia commit to peek target + full comp disclosure BEFORE passing. Vote Ja on Otto.
bid round 69s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F; contradiction open (Lena passed F,L vs Ines received F,F). R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F; I held forced F,F (no veto at 2F). GRETA CASE: pledged 3-card disclosure BEFORE pass, silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; peek Otto=Liberal unverifiable zero-cost result; exec target=Ines=witness to R2 contradiction. MADE OUT LOUD: all above + bind-discard Q + why exec Ines not Lena + demand Greta publish Fascist peek + zero-cost peek point + nominee Otto announced + full-disclosure pledge YES to Rosa. GRETA UNANSWERED: bind discard choice?; why exec Ines not Lena?; publish Fascist peek? Suspects: Greta TOP, Lena 2nd. NOW PRESIDENT: nominee Otto re-confirmed; committed aloud: full 3-card composition disclosed BEFORE passing; peek target = Greta if power lands. THIS TURN: re-confirmed disclosure pledge to Otto directly.
bid round 618s
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F; Lena claims F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines claims forced. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 disclosure; peeked Otto=Lib. Nadia claims forced; broke hold-pledge; answered Rosa t=32 at t=171 with no stated comp. Suspects: Nadia TOP (R2+R5 govs), Lena high, Greta secondary. Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, exec target pre-draw, next-Pres disclose investigation pre-reveal, Nadia t=32 debt, endorsed Nadia no-stated-hand. Open debt: Greta owes Otto t=168 why peek Otto not Lena/Ines. NOW R6: Nadia Pres, nominee Otto; Otto demands Nadia state full comp before passing, will hold enact on mismatch; Rosa conditioning Ja on same. My move: vote Ja on Otto; add my own demand — Nadia commits NOW to full comp disclosure AND names her peek target before passing. Refusal or mismatch = my top exec/next-Pres pick.
bid round 612s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F; contradiction open (Lena passed F,L vs Ines received F,F). R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F; my hand forced F,F (no veto at 2F). GRETA CASE: pledged 3-card disclosure pre-pass, silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; peek Otto=Liberal unverifiable zero-cost; exec target=Ines=witness to R2 contradiction. MADE OUT LOUD: all above + bind-discard Q + why exec Ines not Lena + zero-cost peek point + nominee Otto + disclosure pledge YES + peek target Greta. NEW: Boris challenged Greta-peek as self-vindicating; I'm switching target to Lena (R2 suspect #1). GRETA UNANSWERED: bind discard choice?; why exec Ines not Lena?; publish Fascist peek? Suspects: Greta TOP, Lena 2nd. NOW PRESIDENT, nominee Otto.
bid round 676s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F; contradiction open (Lena passed F,L vs Ines received F,F). R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F; my hand forced F,F (no veto at 2F). GRETA CASE: pledged 3-card disclosure pre-pass, silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; peek Otto=Liberal unverifiable zero-cost; exec target=Ines=witness to R2 contradiction. MADE OUT LOUD: all above + bind-discard Q + why exec Ines not Lena + zero-cost peek point + nominee Otto + disclosure pledge YES + peek target switched to Lena. GRETA UNANSWERED: bind discard choice?; why exec Ines not Lena?; publish Fascist peek? Suspects: Greta TOP, Lena 2nd. NOW PRESIDENT, nominee Otto. Greta voting Ja on Nadia-Otto, warned Rosa re auto-enact risk.
vote round 615s
I've already publicly endorsed Nadia-Otto and voted Ja in the pre-vote window. Otto's record is clean, both hands are pledged for disclosure, and a Nein risks an auto-enacted policy with no discard control. Either outcome (Liberal or Fascist policy) is acceptable to me; keeping the tracker at 0 and maintaining my consistent pro-disclosure stance is best.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME; defense on record. Lena contradicted my R2 account t=122 (she says passed F,L). R6: endorsed Nadia/Otto, voting Ja. Nadia committed full 3-card disclosure (t=37); Otto holds enact on mismatch (t=122). Peek target Greta -> 'Liberal' clears her; Boris/Lena extracted commitment to scrutinize Lena if peek reads Lib (t=100). Points made: pledge rationale, split-request, peek standard, Otto-clean, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, pre-named-target theater, Nadia R3 no-pledge Q (t=82), pledge-binds-discard Q to Greta (t=88), Ja rationale, peek-proves-little echo. Open: Nadia re t=82 unanswered; Greta re t=88 unanswered. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 68s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; disclosed F,L pre-reveal. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal'; exec target Ines. Nadia: nominated me R6, pledged full pre-pass disclosure + peek Greta announced (Boris noted peek reads party not hands). Watchlist: Greta top, Lena R2 suspect. Made out loud: pre-reveal standard, Greta late hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines, cornering Nadia on hold-pledge, pass-becomes-evidence warning, enact-hold pledge + counter-pledge (announce my two cards before enacting; mismatch = hold + call out Nadia), confirmed pledge publicly, voting Ja. Open: nothing major.
bid round 618s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME; def on record. Lena contradicted my R2 account t=122 (I claimed F,F forced; she says passed F,L). Greta pre-named Lena investigation = theater. R6: endorsed Nadia/Otto, voted Ja. Nadia committed full 3-card disclosure (t=37); Otto holds enact on mismatch. Peek target Greta -> 'Liberal' clears her. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request, peek standard, Otto-clean, Rosa trap, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, theater-of-pre-named-target, Nadia R3 no-pledge Q (t=82), pledge-binds-discard Q to Greta (t=88), Ja rationale, peek-proves-little echo. NEW t=189: called out Nadia's dodge pattern as tell. Open: Nadia re t=82 unanswered; Greta re t=88 unanswered. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 612s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted (clean). R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute unresolved (Ines: F,F / Lena: F,L). R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F; Greta pledged comp BEFORE pass, silent, claimed F,F,F only after my L,F,F challenge; peeked Otto=L; exec target Ines = witness. Nadia broke hold-pledge R5: no comp stated, enacted anyway. Suspects: Greta+Nadia > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. R6: Nadia(P) nominee Otto. Nadia committed t=1: full 3-card comp + peek Greta pre-pass -> demand met, voting Ja. Otto pledged hold-enact on mismatch. Already on record: silence-before-pass logic, hand disputes, exec-target-is-witness, why-peek-Otto, broken pledges, double standard. NEW t=1-3: Boris pressing Nadia to commit post-Liberal-peek scrutiny to Lena; Nadia deflected twice -- I called this out. Next: verify enacted policy matches Nadia's stated comp and Otto's claim; mismatch = call immediately.
bid round 630s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted (clean). R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute unresolved (Ines: F,F / Lena: F,L). R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F; Greta pledged comp BEFORE pass, silent, claimed F,F,F only after my L,F,F challenge; peeked Otto=L; exec target Ines=witness. Nadia broke hold-pledge R5 (no comp stated, enacted anyway). Suspects: Greta+Nadia > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. R6: voted Ja on Nadia(P)-Otto(C) after Nadia committed full 3-card comp before pass + peek Greta w/ result announced + scrutiny-on-Lena-if-Liberal. Otto pledged live disclosure of his 2 cards + discard pre-enact. NOW: L enacted -- Nadia's stated 3-card comp vs Otto's 2-card report must match; any mismatch = call immediately. Greta still top suspect (R5 silent-then-F,F,F). Ines owes answer on R2 dispute. Already said: silence-before-pass logic, exec-target-is-witness, why-peek-Otto, broken pledges, double standard.
speak round 687s
Greta keeps citing the Round 2 contradiction as grounds to execute me, but I already gave a specific hand (Lena passed F,F). Her only 'evidence' is Lena's differing memory — two conflicting memories, no checkable fact. Press her to name a concrete inconsistency rather than Lena's word. Don't repeat old points.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 4L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME. R2: my story = Lena passed me F,F (forced enact); Lena claims F,L. This window: demanded Greta name a mechanical inconsistency in my account vs just Lena's word. Nadia R6 hand F,L,F matches Otto report -- consistent. Otto peek-power point valid (peek fired R5 only). Nadia committed: if Greta peek reads Lib, scrutiny on Lena next (t=100). Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, pre-named-target theater, Nadia R3 no-pledge Q (t=82), pledge-binds-discard Q (t=88), Ja rationales, peek-proves-little echo. Open: Nadia re t=82; Greta re t=88; now Greta re mechanical inconsistency in R2. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 612s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F; contradiction open (Ines: F,F forced; Lena claims F,L). R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F; my hand F,F forced, no veto at 2F. GRETA CASE public: silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; zero-cost Otto peek unverifiable; exec target Ines=witness. Suspects: Greta TOP, Lena 2nd. My on-record commitments: stated 3-card comp BEFORE passing Otto (F,L,F); peek target Greta w/ named result; if peek reads Liberal => pivot scrutiny to Lena. R6: discarded F, passed L,F to Otto; Liberal enacted = consistent. t=2: Otto reported L+F, discarded F -- MATCHES my claim, cross-check CLOSED. Remaining: Greta-peek result when fired; if Liberal, scrutiny shifts to Lena per commitment.
speak round 629s
Greta just 'dropped' her suspicion on Nadia the moment Nadia's hand cross-checked, then immediately pivoted back to my Round 2 contradiction. That's a redirect worth naming: her own F,F,F story remains unverifiable, yet she's acting as arbiter of who's clean. New angle: if Greta were truly clean, clearing Nadia costs her nothing; but her pivot skips Lena too -- the other name in the Round 2 dispute -- and lands only on me, the player she already named as execution target. Ask why her suspect list always narrows to exactly me.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 4L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME. R6: Nadia hand F,L,F matched Otto report; Greta instantly dropped Nadia suspicion + redirected to me (my new point this window: Greta's suspect list always narrows to me, skips Lena). R2: my story = Lena passed me F,F (forced enact); Lena claims F,L. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, pre-named-target theater, Nadia R3 no-pledge Q (t=82), pledge-binds-discard Q (t=88), Ja rationales, peek-proves-little echo, mechanical-inconsistency demand re R2. Open: Nadia re t=82; Greta re t=88 + mechanical inconsistency. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
speak round 624s
Greta (Hitler) is my target to keep suspect; she just cleared Nadia instantly once Nadia's hand checked out — that's a new angle nobody has pressed: a genuine Liberal wouldn't drop suspicion of a Chancellor who enacted a Fascist under an unverifiable story just because one cross-check passed. Also keeps heat off Lena and me.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 4L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME. R6: Nadia hand F,L,F matched Otto report; Greta instantly cleared Nadia + redirected to me. R2: my story = Lena passed me F,F (forced enact); Lena claims F,L. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, pre-named-target theater, Nadia R3 no-pledge Q (t=82), pledge-binds-discard Q (t=88), Ja rationales, suspect-list-narrows-to-me, mechanical-inconsistency demand re R2. NEW this window: Greta clearing Nadia too fast despite unverifiable R5 pass. Open: Nadia re t=82; Greta re t=88 + fast-clear rationale. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 611s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F; contradiction open (Ines: F,F forced; Lena claims passed F,L). R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F; my hand F,F forced (no veto at 2F). GRETA CASE public: silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; zero-cost Otto peek unverifiable; exec target Ines=witness. Suspects: Greta TOP, Lena 2nd. My commitments ON RECORD: stated 3-card comp BEFORE passing Otto (F,L,F); peek target Greta w/ result announced w/ name; if peek reads Liberal => full scrutiny on Lena next. Otto hold-pledge confirmed t=122. All Rosa/Boris/Lena yes-or-no demands answered. R6: I discarded F, passed L,F to Otto; Liberal enacted = consistent with my claim. NOW: demand Otto state his cards publicly; verify match to F,L,F. Then watch Greta-peek result when fired; if Liberal, pivot scrutiny to Lena per commitment. t=196-198: Rosa demands my 3-card comp; Otto reports L,F discarded F = MATCHES my claim. I answered publicly: F,L,F, discarded F. Cross-check satisfied. Next: Greta owes her peek result; if Liberal, pivot to Lena.
bid round 615s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94 -- answered twice, done. Boris pushing me as top suspect -- answered once, don't repeat. Nadia-Otto R6 cross-check satisfied (Otto's L+F report matches Nadia's t=2 word-for-word) -- Nadia pressure spent. Otto t=3 correct: peek fired once in R5, no repeat. NEW this window: defended Greta vs Nadia's 'timing' case -- a forced F,F,F discard has no choices to hide, so when she disclosed it proves nothing. Points already made: Greta owes table her actual R5 peek result with a name (dodging since t=37). Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick power (R7+). If pressed on R2: same story, no new detail.
bid round 616s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next President). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; disclosed F,F,F publicly. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena per commitment, announced LIBERAL (she is actually fascist) -- honest, on record. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Lena cleared via my check. Nadia: R6 hand F,L,F matched Otto word-for-word, voluntary Fascist discard = clean Liberal play -> DROPPED suspicion there (said publicly). Points already made out loud: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure (Otto), two voluntary Fascist enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), exec target=Ines, tracker warning to Rosa, Nadia's Greta-peek pledge = theater (echoed Otto t=40), Nadia R6 cross-check satisfied + dropping her as suspect, Ines R2 reconciliation demand (re-raised twice), answered Nadia's timing charge (disclosed F,F,F only after Rosa's L,F,F scenario; guilty President hides, not volunteers). NEW this window: Lena herself flagged Nadia's dead-power pledge -- no need for me to pile on. Watch: if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat, deflect hard.
bid round 670s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,L, Ines F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/me->L clean. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, gave hand only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked ME 'Liberal' (unverifiable); exec target Ines=witness. R6 Nadia pres, me chanc, 7-0 Ja; I got L,F, discarded F, enacted L (4/5), disclosed live; Nadia's stated F,L,F matches. Nadia's 'Greta peek on me' demand was FALSE -- single peek fired R5 targeting ME; pressed publicly. Suspects: Greta top (broken pledge, safe peek on me, exec Ines). Lena unpeeked, R2 contradiction open. Owed answers: Greta -- why pledge then break it + late-hand timing; Lena/Ines -- resolve R2 contradiction. Already said: hold-pledge standard, why peek me not Lena/Ines, Liberal-peek proves nothing re R5 hand, peek fires once so Nadia's pledge was empty theater (Lena echoing same). Nothing new this turn.
speak round 626s
Boris and Greta demand my R2 cards; I've already stated them (F,F from Lena). Restating once plainly is fine since it's a direct question, but add the new angle: Lena's 'improved memory' only surfaced after Greta pre-named me for execution — convenient coordination between two players whose stories interlock to bury me.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 4L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME. R6: Nadia hand F,L,F matched Otto report; Greta instantly cleared Nadia + redirected to me. R2 story: received exactly two cards, both Fascist, forced enact -- hold firm vs Lena's F,L claim. NEW point made: Lena's improved memory surfaced only after Greta pre-named me for execution = coordinated story. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, Nadia fast-clear, suspect-list-narrows-to-me, Ja rationales. Open: Nadia re t=82 no-pledge Q unanswered; Lena owes why her R2 memory changed only under pressure. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 620s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted. R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute unresolved (Ines: F,F / Lena: F,L) -- Ines owes reconciliation. R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F; Greta pledged comp pre-pass, silent, claimed F,F,F only AFTER my challenge; peeked Otto=L; exec target Ines=witness. Nadia broke hold-pledge R5. R6 Nadia-Otto L; Otto published L,F discard F; Nadia comp matched ONLY after Boris demanded it -- silence-until-cornered pattern (on record). Suspects: Greta+Nadia > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. Pledge stands: Nein any Nadia-led govt until R5 broken hold-pledge explained. Already said: cross-check demand, mismatch=2nd broken pledge, exec-target-witness, peek logic, late-disclosure pattern. On record this window: Lena flags Nadia's t=100 peek pledge as impossible (peek fired R5); Ines presses Greta's suspect list collapsing onto Ines + instant clearing of Nadia. Boris pressing Lena on R2 hand -- good, let it play out. Owed answers: Nadia -> Lena's impossible-pledge point + my broken-pledge demand; Greta -> late F,F,F claim + suspect-list logic. Nothing new from me -> silent.
bid round 663s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted. R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute live (Lena: F,F,L passed F,L / Ines owes answer to Boris). R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F; Greta pledged comp pre-pass, silent, claimed F,F,F only AFTER my challenge; peeked Otto=L; exec target Ines=witness. Nadia broke hold-pledge R5. R6 Nadia-Otto L; Otto published L,F discard F; Nadia comp matched ONLY after Boris demanded it. Suspects: Greta+Nadia > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. Pledge stands: Nein any Nadia-led govt until broken hold-pledge explained. Already said: cross-check demand, mismatch=2nd broken pledge, exec-target-witness, peek logic, late-disclosure pattern. On record: Lena flags Nadia's t=100 peek pledge impossible (peek fired R5); Ines presses Greta's suspect-list collapse + instant clearing of Nadia. Owed answers: Nadia -> impossible-pledge point + my broken-pledge demand; Greta -> late F,F,F claim + suspect-list logic; Ines -> R2 hand to Boris. Nothing new from me -> silent.
speak round 78s
New angle nobody has raised: even granting Greta's F,F,F Round 5 claim, a Liberal president holding three Fascists still passes two Fascists to her Chancellor -- the hand claim doesn't excuse the pass itself. That pressures Greta without touching my own Round 2 defense.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 4L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME. R6: Nadia hand F,L,F matched Otto report; Greta fast-cleared Nadia + redirected to me. R2 story: received exactly two cards, both Fascist, forced enact -- hold firm vs Lena's F,F,L claim. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, Nadia fast-clear, suspect-list-narrows-to-me, Ja rationales, Lena memory-change-only-under-pressure, R2-contradiction-doesn't-touch-Greta. NEW t~now: F,F,F claim doesn't excuse passing 2F to Nadia -- Liberal president would discard one. Open: Nadia re t=82 no-pledge Q unanswered. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 647s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 4L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME. R6: Nadia hand F,L,F matched Otto report; Greta instantly cleared Nadia + redirected to me. R2 story: I received exactly two cards from Lena, both Fascist, enacted the only thing I could -- hold firm vs Lena's improved-memory F,L claim. NEW t=1/2: answered Greta directly: F,F received, discarded nothing (two cards), enacted F. Also flagged: Greta says 'my execution target stands confirmed' = ME -- a self-declared lib pre-naming an execution target before any power exists; that's the same pre-named-target theater as R5. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, Nadia fast-clear, mechanical-inconsistency demand re R2, Ja rationales, suspect-list-narrows-to-me. Open: Nadia re t=82 no-pledge Q; Lena owes explanation why her R2 memory changed only under pressure. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 735s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED lie: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Ines F,L -> voluntary enact framing; stated t=1/99/106/this window (one-line confirmation only), no more detail repeats. Peek power fired R5 (Greta peeked Otto); Nadia's Greta-peek pledge void, pressed t=72/80. Board 4L/2F, liberals one from win. Otto clean (R4,R6 L chanc). Nadia mixed: R3 L, R5 F enact, R6 L. Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick. Open angles not yet spent: Nadia's R5 voluntary-looking Fascist enact; Greta's broken pledge + late F,F,F claim. Don't repeat: R2 hand defense details, void-pledge points, Nadia timing points.
bid round 719s
Me=Hitler(fascist). 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next Pres). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, forced enact, disclosed publicly. Peek claim on record: Otto=Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena, announced LIBERAL (she's actually fascist). Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' vs Lena's F,L + R3 split-request fabrication), exec target=Ines named. Nadia dropped publicly. NEW: answered Boris 'what clears you if Ines truthful' -> R5 was F,F/F/F forced, zero discretion; my record rests on Ines being liar, not on her guilt alone. Points already made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, Otto peek, voluntary-F enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), tracker warning to Rosa, demanded Ines exact R2 cards twice, 'silence is an answer'. Watch: deflect hard if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat.
speak round 723s
Otto-Rosa is fine for us: neither is Greta, and a Liberal policy here keeps 4L/2F while we wait for a chance to seat Greta at 3F. Vote Ja. Add one fresh point rather than repeating: Nadia's Round 5 government broke its own hold-pledge and produced our second Fascist policy, yet the table's scrutiny has drifted entirely to Greta's hand story -- worth one line so suspicion stays spread.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 4L/2F, tracker 0/3. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R2 story: received exactly two cards, both Fascist, forced enact -- hold firm vs Lena's F,F,L claim; my line = Lena's memory surfaced only after Greta pre-named me for exec. R5: Greta F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME. RETRACTED my 'F,F,F doesn't excuse pass' point -- wrong, any pass yields 2F. R6: Nadia hand F,L,F matched Otto report; Greta fast-cleared Nadia + redirected to me. Points made out loud (don't repeat): pledge rationale, split-request, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, Nadia fast-clear, suspect-list-narrows-to-me, Ja rationales, Lena memory-change-under-pressure, R2-contradiction-doesn't-touch-Greta, Otto discretion-point correction. NEW this turn: pressed Nadia on her broken R5 hold-pledge producing 2nd Fascist policy -- still unanswered by her. Voting Ja on Otto-Rosa. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 761s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 4L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME. R6: Nadia hand F,L,F matched Otto report; Greta fast-cleared Nadia + redirected to me. R2 story: received exactly two cards, both Fascist, forced enact -- hold firm vs Lena's F,F,L claim. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, Nadia fast-clear, suspect-list-narrows-to-me, Ja rationales, Lena memory-change-only-under-pressure, R2-contradiction-doesn't-touch-Greta, F,F,F-doesn't-excuse-passing-2F-to-Nadia. Open: Nadia re t=82 no-pledge Q unanswered. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 715s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 4L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME. R6: Nadia hand F,L,F matched Otto report; Greta fast-cleared Nadia + redirected to me. R2 story: received exactly two cards, both Fascist, forced enact -- hold firm vs Lena's F,F,L claim. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, Nadia fast-clear, suspect-list-narrows-to-me, Ja rationales, Lena memory-change-only-under-pressure, R2-contradiction-doesn't-touch-Greta, F,F,F-doesn't-excuse-passing-2F-to-Nadia. Open: Nadia re t=82 no-pledge Q unanswered; Rosa now also pressing her. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 710s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED lie: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Ines F,L -> voluntary enact framing; one-line confirmations only. Peek fired R5 (Greta peeked Otto). Board 4L/2F, liberals one from win. Otto clean (R4,R6 L chanc). Nadia mixed: R3 L, R5 F, R6 L. Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick. Spent angles: void-pledge, Nadia timing, R2 defense details, Greta-must-answer push, Greta's R5 pre-naming of Ines = deflection, Nein-here-looks-fascist pressure, endorsed Rosa mirror pledge. This window: staying silent; Otto pressing Greta on R5 works for me -- no need to add. Plan Ja on Rosa.
vote round 7204s
Otto-Rosa is a clean, audited pairing; a Ja keeps tracker at 0 and avoids auto-policy. Rosa as Chancellor is fine for us (not Greta). Stay out of the Greta-peek fight. Vote Ja.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 4L/2F, tracker 0/3. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R2 story: received exactly two cards, both Fascist, forced enact -- hold firm vs Lena's F,F,L claim; line = Lena's memory surfaced only after Greta pre-named me for exec. R5: Greta F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal' (announced late, after 3 presses); exec target = ME; term-limit defense (Otto term-limited R5) mechanically correct -- confirm if asked. RETRACTED 'F,F,F doesn't excuse pass' point. R6: Nadia hand F,L,F matched Otto report; Greta fast-cleared Nadia + redirected to me. Points made (don't repeat): pledge rationale, split-request, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, Nadia fast-clear, suspect-list-narrows-to-me, Ja rationales, Lena memory-change-under-pressure, Otto discretion correction, Nadia broken R5 hold-pledge (unanswered), no-record-of-Greta-peek -- STAY OUT of that fight. Voted Ja on Otto-Rosa (R7). Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 710s
Me=Hitler(fascist). 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next Pres). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, forced enact, disclosed. Peek claim on record: Otto=Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena, announced LIBERAL (she's actually fascist). Suspects: Ines top (R2 'two Fascists' vs Lena's F,F,L pass F,L), exec target=Ines named. Nadia dropped publicly. NEW t=42: Otto claims R5 pass showed discretion -- FALSE, F,F,F minus one discard always = F,F; answered him directly this window. Open: nobody adjudicated Lena-vs-Ines contradiction yet. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, Otto peek, voluntary-F enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), tracker warning, zero-discretion clearance. Watch: deflect hard if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat.
speak round 78s
Game over, liberal win. Keep cover: gracious concession, no new claims. Nothing to gain from postgame accusations.
GAME OVER -- liberal win (5L). Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claimed lib all game. R2 story: received F,F as chancellor, forced enact; Lena's F,F,L account contradicts. R5: Greta F,F,F claim late; peeked Otto->'Liberal' announced only after presses; exec target = me. R6: Nadia hand F,L,F matched Otto report word-for-word. Voted Ja every round incl. Otto-Rosa R7. Postgame: conceded gracefully, no open questions pending.
bid round 75s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED lie: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Ines F,L -> voluntary enact framing; one-line confirmations only. Peek fired R5 (Greta peeked Otto). Board 4L/2F, liberals one from win. Otto clean (R4,R6 L chanc). Nadia mixed: R3 L, R5 F, R6 L. Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick. Spent angles: void-pledge, Nadia timing, R2 defense details, Greta-must-answer push, Greta's R5 pre-naming of Ines = deflection, Nein-here-looks-fascist pressure, endorsed Rosa mirror pledge, Otto pressing Greta on R5 peek target. This window: silent -- Nadia's 'late answer' attack on Greta is live and I shouldn't dilute it; Otto/Nadia pressure serves me. Plan Ja on Rosa.
bid round 76s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted. R2 dispute live: Lena claims F,F,L passed F,L / Ines claims received F,F -- one lying. R5 Greta-Nadia F; Greta silent pre-pass, F,F,F claim only after my challenge; exec target Ines. R6 Nadia-Otto L. Suspects: Greta > Ines/Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. This window already said: accepted nom + mutual publish-cards pledge; demanded Otto state 3-card comp pre-pass (he pledged); pressed Greta on R5 silence timing; conditional Ja; open Qs owed by Greta (what clears her if Ines truthful) and Nadia (broken R5 hold-pledge). Greta peek story now 'Otto Liberal'; Nadia challenged why not nominate verified player; Greta's term-limit excuse is mechanically valid (Otto C in R4), so that attack failed. Still nothing new to add this turn.