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Player 1 (Lena)

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bid round 122s
R1, no info yet. No policies, no votes, no nominations. Watch: Boris's first chancellor pick, vote records. Nothing said yet by me.
speak round 16s
Round 1, no information. Best move is a short, neutral liberal-sounding remark. Don't push for Greta as chancellor yet -- too early and draws attention.
R1 open floor. Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. Said: keep it neutral, judge governments on merits. No info yet; watch who Boris nominates. Greta chancellor risky until 3+ fasc policies.
bid round 14s
R1: fascist w/ Lena; Hitler=Greta. No info. Plan: claim lib, Ja on reasonable govts early, don't steer nominations suspiciously. Said: nothing to go on yet, judge govt on merits.
bid round 15s
R1 open floor. No votes/policies/claims yet. Watching Boris's pick of Rosa and the vote. Nothing new to say.
bid round 120s
R1: I'm Pres, nominated Rosa. No info yet. Rosa publicly pledged full disclosure of enacted policy + accept blame if Fascist passes under her. Watch: unjustified Neins on first gov. Nothing else public from me.
bid round 15s
R1: I'm Pres, nominated Rosa. Rosa pledged: disclose enacted policy + accept blame if Fascist passes under her. I voted Ja publicly. Otto+Greta asked Rosa to commit to full 3-card composition disclosure -- waiting on her answer before their votes. No suspicions yet. Don't repeat my pledge point.
bid round 14s
R1, no info yet. Boris nominated Rosa; Rosa pledged disclosure of enacted policy only. Greta+Otto demanding full 3-card composition. I added my voice: want full composition incl. discard + pre-vote commitment on veto stance (veto not live yet but ask intent). No votes cast yet. Watch: how Rosa answers, then vote records.
vote round 16s
First government, no track record. Rosa is not a fellow fascist; passing a normal government is fine early. Voting Ja keeps me neutral and avoids standing out. No reason to burn Nein on round one.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R1: Boris pres, Rosa chanc nominee. Rosa pledged full 3-card disclosure+discard (t=37). Greta/Otto pressed her on disclosure -- note Greta active. Voted Ja R1, no statement needed. Don't push Greta as chancellor pre-3-fasc. Points made: judge govt on merits (t=7).
bid round 18s
R1: Boris pres, Rosa chancellor -> Liberal enacted (good outcome). Rosa pledged full 3-card composition + discard before reveal -- she owes that claim now. Voted Ja. No suspicions yet. Points already made: asked Rosa for card composition pre-reveal.
bid round 226s
R1: Boris pres, Rosa chancellor -> Liberal enacted. Rosa pledged full 3-card composition + discard before reveal -- she still owes that claim, pressing now. Voted Ja. No suspicions yet. Points already made: asked Rosa for card composition pre-reveal.
bid round 217s
R1: Hitler (me). Voted Ja Boris/Rosa. Demanded Rosa's full 3-card disclosure on record -- Otto now pressing same point, good. Liberal enacted R1. Waiting on Rosa's composition claim; if she breaks pledge or enacts F later, push suspicion her way. Nothing new to add; stay quiet unless asked directly.
bid round 29s
R1 truth on record: Boris passed me F+L; discarded F, enacted L. Vote 7-0 Ja. Otto asked composition -> answered. Open Qs: Greta/Otto -- did my disclosure earn their Ja? Watch: Lena's R2 nomination choice, who lands in Fas-enacting govs. Points made: accountability pledge, Fas-under-me = evidence against me. Nothing new to add this window.
speak round 210s
Boris asked me two direct questions: will I commit to the full-disclosure standard, and who's my pick. Answer both specifically. Nominate Ines -- my fellow fascist -- as a plausible, accountable choice; keep Greta away from chancellorship until 3 fascist policies are up.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R1: Boris+Rosa govt enacted Liberal; Rosa disclosed 1F/1L, discarded F -- consistent. Voted Ja R1. R2: I'm President. Nominated Ines (t=44), committed to full-disclosure standard for her. Keep Greta away from chancellorship until 3 fasc policies up. Points made: judge govts on merits (t=7); disclosure commitment + Ines nomination (t=44). No open questions pending.
bid round 214s
R1: Boris pres, Rosa chanc -> Liberal enacted (1L/0F). Rosa finally gave composition (2 cards: 1F 1L, discarded F) ONLY after two presses -- late disclosure is itself a data point, file it. Note: she claimed a 2-card hand; standard draw is 3 -- either deck-short or misremembered/lying; ask Boris what he actually passed. Open: Boris owes Lena an answer on her nomination + standard. Points made out loud: card-composition demand (twice). Next: watch Lena's nominee.
nominate_chancellor round 210s
I already publicly nominated Ines and she accepted; confirming the nomination is consistent. Ines is my fellow fascist -- good government. Keep Greta away from chancellorship until 3 fascist policies are up. If the vote passes, I'll pass two cards to Ines; a Liberal enact early buys cover.
said: Confirming my nomination: Ines for Chancellor. She's committed to full disclosure before the reveal, same standard Rosa set. I ask everyone to vote Ja so we can get a second data point on the board instead of stalling at zero.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R1: Boris+Rosa enacted L; Rosa disclosed 1F/1L post-press, Boris confirmed hand matches. R2: I'm President, nominated Ines (accepted), pledged full-disclosure standard. Plan if govt passes: pass 2 cards to Ines, prefer L policy early for trust/cover. Keep Greta out of chancellorship until 3F up. Points made: judge govts by disclosure (t=7), commitment+Ines pick (t=25). No open questions pending.
bid round 26s
R1: Boris pres, Rosa chanc -> Liberal enacted (1L/0F). KEY DISCREPANCY: Rosa claimed a 2-card hand (1F 1L, discarded F) after two presses; standard draw is 3. Either deck-short or lying/misremembered. Asked Boris what he passed Rosa -- NO ANSWER YET, he owes it before Lena's vote on Ines. Points made out loud: composition demand (twice). Lena nominating Ines; Ines committed to full disclosure standard. Watch: does Boris answer the pass question? Next press: if Boris silent, treat Rosa's story as suspect and note late disclosure pattern.
bid round 26s
R1: I was Pres, hand FFL, discarded F, passed [F,L]; Rosa's claim (F,L) matched exactly -- clean. R2: Lena Pres, nominated Ines. Ines pre-committed to full composition+discard disclosure before reveal. Already said publicly: Rosa pledge endorsement, my Ja rationale, ask to Lena re disclosure standard. Otto confirmed my R1 hand claim. No open questions owed to me. 0 F policies, no suspects yet. Watch if vote passes: does Ines disclose as pledged? Composition of what Lena passes.
vote round 220s
This is my own government with Ines (fellow fascist) as Chancellor. Voting Ja obviously. If passed, I'll draw 3 and pass 2 to Ines; early Liberal enact builds trust and cover for later Fascist pushes. Keep Greta away from chancellorship until 3 Fascist policies are up.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R1: Boris+Rosa enacted L (1/5 L, 0 F); Rosa disclosed 1F/1L, Boris confirmed. R2: I'm President, nominated Ines, both pledged pre-reveal full disclosure. Vote Ja on my own govt. If passed: draw 3, pass 2 to Ines; prefer Liberal enact early for trust/cover, don't rush F policies. Keep Greta out of chancellorship until 3F on board. Already said publicly: judge govt on disclosure (t=7), commitment + Ines rationale (t=25). No open questions pending. Tracker 0/3.
president_discard round 220s
hand: ['F', 'L', 'F'] → 1
Hand is F,L,F. Ines (fascist) is Chancellor and pledged full pre-reveal disclosure. Discarding the Liberal and passing F,F lets her truthfully disclose 'two Fascists, I discarded one, enacted the other' -- a completely consistent, honest-sounding story that no Liberal can fault, since she had no Liberal to play. It advances the Fascist count toward the 3-F Hitler-election win path, which is our primary goal, and tracker is only 0/3 so no risk of auto-policy issues. Early Fascist policy enacted by an apparently transparent government buys trust for later rounds.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R1: Boris+Rosa enacted L (1L/0F); Rosa disclosed 1F/1L post-hoc, Boris confirmed match. R2: I'm Pres, nominated Ines; vote passed 7-0. Pledged pre-reveal full composition standard. I drew F,L,F -> discarded the L, passing F,F to Ines so her disclosure ('two F, discarded one') is truthful and unimpeachable; advances F count toward 3F->Hitler election path. Keep Greta out of chancellor seat until 3F on board. Said publicly: judge govt on disclosure (t=7), commitment + Ines rationale (t=25). No open questions pending. Tracker 0/3. Watch: Otto pushes disclosure hard; Rosa's late disclosure was noted by Ines.
bid round 27s
R1 truth: Boris passed me F+L; I discarded F, enacted L. Vote 7-0. Otto's composition question answered. R2: Lena picked Ines, Ines pledged pre-reveal full disclosure, Otto conditionally Ja. My points already on record: accountability pledge, Fas-under-me = evidence against me. Nothing new to add; watch which govs enact Fascist policies.
bid round 215s
R1: Boris+Rosa clean, Liberal, Rosa comp confirmed by Boris. R2: Ines pledged pre-reveal full comp; Fascist enacted anyway. Either she lied about pledge or Lena fed her a F+F. Ask Ines exact cards; ask Lena exact pass. Otto had committed Ja on pledge kept. I voted Ja R2. Deck odds 14 draw/2 disc at time.
speak round 223s
Nadia asked for the split directly. I already claimed F/L/F pre-reveal per my pledge, so I stay consistent: I drew F,L,F, discarded the Liberal, passed two Fascists to Ines. Owning the pass shields Ines (she was forced) and costs me suspicion I can absorb as 'bad luck' -- a President with no track record drawing two Fascists is plausible. Ines should confirm she received two Fascists and enact was forced.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R1: Boris+Rosa enacted L (1L/0F); Rosa disclosed post-hoc, Boris confirmed match. R2: I Pres, nominated Ines, 7-0 pass. Drew F,L,F -> discarded L, passed F,F to Ines. PUBLICLY STATED: F/L/F, discarded L, passed two Fs to Ines; just told table Ines was forced. Ines must confirm receiving two Fs + enact forced. Otto/Boris/Rosa pressed disclosure; answered directly each time. Tracker 0/3. Keep Greta out of chancellor seat until 3F. Watch: Rosa late-disclosure pattern R1; Otto pressing hard both rounds.
bid round 211s
R1 truth: Boris passed me F+L; I discarded F, enacted L (7-0). R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted FASCIST despite pre-reveal full-disclosure pledges. Demanded t=1: Lena's draw + pass, Ines's discard -- NO ANSWER YET from either; they owe it NOW. Otto echoed demand t=3 (fine). Already said: silence/reconstruction = evidence. New angle this turn: deadline + whoever vouches for them without card specifics joins suspect list. Suspect order: Ines then Lena (Chancellor has final discard). My record clean: disclosed R1 fully under pressure re timing. Watch: Greta/Nadia/Boris defenses.
bid round 211s
R1: Boris+Rosa clean (Liberal). R2: Lena drew F,L,F -> disc L, passed 2F to Ines; Ines forced enact. Both stories consistent, unverifiable. I voted Ja R2. Asked Q re hand split -- ANSWERED by Lena & Ines, matching. Next: get pre-committed nominations/disclosures from future presidents. No one owes me answers now. Otto already pressed disclosure; don't repeat.
bid round 210s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R1: Boris+Rosa enacted L. R2: I Pres, Ines Ch, 7-0 pass, drew F,L,F -> discarded L publicly, passed F,F, forced enact. Accounts match per Greta/Ines; Nadia accepted but watching my next hand. Tracker 0/3. Next: as Pres nominate someone NOT Ines/Greta -- keep Greta out of chancellor seat until 3F. Candidates: Otto or Rosa or Nadia for cover. Otto pressed hard both rounds -- deflect toward him if pressure resumes. Rosa late-disclosure pattern R1 noted. Don't repeat F/F/L story again unless asked directly.
speak round 216s
Rosa asks me to commit to discard-Fascist-on-split pledge and probes Greta's vouch. I accept the pledge publicly (costs nothing, builds trust). For the Greta question, deflect: vouching on a matched story isn't evidence of anything either way -- and note Rosa's own R1 disclosure only came under Otto's pressure, same pattern she's criticizing.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R1 Boris+Rosa L enact; R2 me Pres + Ines Ch: claimed F,F,L drew, discarded L, passed F,F forced enact (public story, consistent w/ Ines). ACCEPTED Rosa's discard-F-on-split pledge publicly. Deflected Greta-vouch question onto Rosa's own R1 late disclosure. Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Nadia (NOT Ines/Greta) for cover. Greta must stay out of chancellor seat until 3F enacted. If F/F/L story relitigated, don't repeat verbatim -- point to Nadia dropping it. Watch who pushes hardest; deflection target: Otto.
bid round 210s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R1: Boris+Rosa enacted L. R2: I Pres, Ines Ch, 7-0 pass, drew F,L,F -> discarded L publicly, passed F,F forced enact. Rosa now pushing pre-reveal discard pledge + asking why Greta vouched. Plan: ACCEPT pledge publicly (costs nothing, buys trust). Don't relitigate F/F/L story again unless asked directly. Next round as Pres: nominate NOT Ines/Greta -- Otto or Nadia for cover. Greta must stay out of chancellor seat until 3F enacted. Deflect pressure toward Otto if it resumes (he pressed hard R2). Rosa's late-disclosure pattern R1 noted as counterpoint if she pushes.
speak round 211s
Otto is pressing Greta for vouching. I should defend Greta lightly and turn it around: Otto demanded corroboration then attacks whoever provided it. Keep it short, don't relitigate the F/F/L story.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 me Pres+Ines Ch: public story F,F,L drew, discarded L, passed F,F (matches Ines). Pledged split-hand Fascist-discard rule on record. R1 Boris+Rosa Liberal enact. Otto attacking Greta for 'vouching' -- defended her lightly t~now. Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Nadia, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta out of chancellor until 3F enacted. If F/F/L story relitigated: point to Nadia dropping it rather than repeating hand verbatim. Deflection target: Otto.
bid round 28s
R1: Hitler(me). Ja Boris/Rosa -> Lib enacted, Boris confirmed clean. R2: Lena pres/Ines chanc, F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F; Ines confirms; I endorsed consistency only. Otto now asks why I vouched unverifiable hand pre-accusation -- answering: I flagged matched-story risk too (echoed Rosa's caution), not a bill of health. Points already made: consistency endorsement + caveat. Owed answers: none. Plan: quiet liberal, seek chancellorship once 3F on board.
bid failed: transport_error
bid round 218s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover story F,L/F/F forced enact, corroborated by Greta publicly. Points made (don't repeat): pre-reveal pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, Otto/Nadia pressing evidence-free, defense of Greta's vouch, accepted Rosa's discard pledge. Rosa still suspects matched stories -- keep distance from Lena next rounds, avoid pairing with her again soon. Watch Nadia re: Lena scrutiny. Next goals: get Greta chancellorship once 3F+, push Fs quietly, occasionally enact Lib for cover.
bid failed: timeout
bid round 248s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claim F,F,L drawn, L discarded -- consistent, unverifiable. Points made out loud: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, asked Lena next pick NOW, asked Ines one-of-each hypothetical, endorsed Ines pledge, pressed Lena for next Chancellor name + no-repeat commitment. Owed answers: Lena (next pick). If Lena/Ines produce 2nd Fascist policy together -> both near-certain fascists, say so then. Suspects: Lena+Ines moderate-high after F policy; Otto unremarkable; watch Otto's pivot target.
bid round 310s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean (Lib). R2 Lena claims F,L,F -> disc L -> passed 2F to Ines; forced enact; stories match, Greta corroborated but unverifiable. I voted Ja R2. Otto attacking Greta's vouch as 3rd-Fascist smoothing; Lena/Ines/Greta pushed back. Already said out loud: (1) asked Greta basis for clean-bill vouch; (2) proposed pre-commit discard-disclosure rule for future Pres/Chanc pairs. Watch Lena's R3 nomination for self-serving pick. No unanswered questions owed to me. Nothing new this window.
bid round 317s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 me Pres+Ines Ch: public story F,F,L drew, discarded L, passed F,F (matches Ines). Pledged split-hand Fascist-discard rule on record. R1 Boris+Rosa Liberal enact. Otto attacked Greta for 'vouching'; I defended her t=2, Greta clarified herself. Ines accepted Rosa's split-hand pledge. Rosa nominating Nadia, pledge on record. Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Nadia, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta out of chancellor until 3F enacted. If F/F/L story relitigated: point to Nadia dropping it rather than repeat hand verbatim. Deflection target: Otto. Already said: defense of Greta re vouching (t=2); deflection at Otto re Greta attack; asked Nadia why she dropped R2 hand question -- no answer yet, she owes one. Nothing new this window: stay silent.
bid round 3114s
R1 truth: Boris(P)-me(C), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L (disclosed late). R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L, Lena discarded L. KEY CATCH: presidents choose discard -- Lena could've passed F+L; 'deck decided' false. Ines claims she asked Lena for a split pre-pass and Lena declined (unverifiable, points at Lena). Suspects: Lena > Ines > Greta. Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. Open Qs owed me: Lena (card order + president-choice contradiction, asked twice); Greta (why vouch unprompted, asked twice); Nadia (pledge yes/no, asked twice incl. now). Already public: corroboration proves nothing; broken pledges=evidence; discard-pledge accepted by Lena & Ines; presidents choose discard. R3: me(P), nominated NADIA -- want her explicit pre-vote discard pledge.
speak round 315s
Nadia keeps pressing the split-refusal. My consistent story: no request was made before I passed; Ines's 'I asked' appeared two rounds late under pressure, which is exactly the post-reveal reconstruction everyone pledged against. Boris already flagged this at t=28 -- I can add that Ines's timing is the tell without repeating my hand details. Then go quiet.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story locked: F,F,L drew, discarded L, passed F,F (matches Ines) -- do NOT restate verbatim. Split-refusal answered t=now: 'Ines never asked pre-pass; her request surfaced 2 rounds late = post-reveal reconstruction.' Boris made same timing point t=28 R3. Nadia pressing me 3x; after this answer go quiet. Rosa nominating Nadia w/ one-of-each discard pledge. Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Nadia, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta out of chancellery until 3F enacted. Deflection target: Otto. Open Qs: none owed to me.
bid round 322s
R1 truth: Boris(P)-me(C), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L (disclosed late). R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L, Lena discarded L. KEY: presidents choose discard -- Lena could've passed F+L; 'deck decided' false. Ines claims she asked Lena for a split pre-pass, Lena declined (unverifiable, points at Lena). Suspects: Lena > Ines > Greta. Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. Open Qs owed me: Lena (card order + president-choice contradiction, asked twice); Greta (why vouch unprompted, asked twice); Nadia pledge -- NOW ANSWERED t=1, she accepted: one of each as C means discard F + state before reveal. R3: me(P), nominated Nadia. Points already public: corroboration proves nothing; broken pledges=evidence; discard-pledge accepted by Lena & Ines; presidents choose discard. Next: hold Nadia to pledge if elected; keep pressing Lena for her answer before vote.
speak failed: timeout
bid round 310s
R1: Boris/Rosa -> 1L. R2: Lena/Ines -> F. Both claim F,L,F, stories match, unfalsifiable. Points made: Boris ack; conditional Ja on Ines; matching-stories demand; Rosa discard-F pledge; pressed Greta. NEW: called out Nadia for fixating only on Lena when R2 gov had two members -- Ines equally suspect and quieter. Watchlist: Lena, Ines (R2 F gov). Open: Ines owes answer to Rosa's Q (did she ask Lena to discard a Fascist); Lena owes Nadia's split question. No F record on Nadia -- leaning Ja unless enact betrays.
bid round 312s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover: F,F/L/F forced, corroborated by Greta. LIE on record: asked Lena for split pre-pass, she refused. Lena now DENIES request happened (t=2) -- convenient for her, shifts blame to me; I hold my story, note she benefits from denial. Boris calls contradiction, top suspect. Points made: pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, Greta defense, discard pledge, matched-stories weak, deflected Rosa's Greta-vouch Q. OPEN: Rosa owes Otto/me answer re Greta vouch. NOW: one rebuttal line re Lena's denial being self-serving, then drop topic. Goals: pledge credibility, distance from Lena, Greta chancellorship at 3F+, occasional Lib enact. Watch Nadia/Otto.
bid round 39s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claimed F,F,L drawn, L discarded. CONTRADICTION on record: Ines says she asked Lena pre-pass for split; Lena says never happened. One lying -> both top suspects. If true, Lena refused split = Lena high. Points already out loud: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, discard-pledge endorsement, pressed Lena for next pick, called Ines's story retroactive, pledged Ja to Nadia, asked Rosa+Nadia to commit BEFORE vote (Rosa next pick if elected, Nadia enact pledge), flagged Ines dodging contradiction by pivoting to Nadia. Owed answers: Rosa (Otto's Greta question). Vote plan: Ja on Rosa/Nadia. Watch: Otto's pivot target; Greta neutral framing. If Lena+Ines produce 2nd Fascist together -> both near-certain fascists.
speak round 312s
Rosa's card-position question is still live and she's using my silence as evidence. Answering 'third slot' is safe: nobody can verify it, and it closes the dodge accusation. Keep it short.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 locked story: drew F,F,L, discarded L (third slot), passed F,F -- matches Ines. Card-position Q ANSWERED this turn (third slot) -- do not reopen. Nadia pledge endorsed + Ja on record. Boris framed me-vs-Ines contradiction; rebutted via timing; stay quiet unless pressed. Deflection target: Otto (stacked pre-vote conditions = pressure theater). Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Nadia, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta from chancellery until 3F enacted. Open Qs owed me: none.
speak round 312s
Rosa-Nadia are both liberals; I want this vote to pass to build trust and keep the tracker moving. I've already answered Rosa's card-position question. Add one short supportive remark: Nadia took the full pledge unprompted, so she gets my Ja.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 locked story: F,F,L drawn, Liberal discarded (third slot), passed F,F -- matches Ines; card-position Q answered t=108, do not reopen. Lena/Ines split-request contradiction live: I deny request happened, Otto+Boris side with me, Ines claims she asked. Deflection target: Otto (conditional pledges = pressure theater). Voting Ja on Rosa-Nadia; Nadia pledged full composition pre-reveal. Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Boris, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta from chancellery until 3F enacted. Open Qs owed me: none.
bid round 36s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover: F,F/L/F forced, corroborated by Greta. LIE on record: split-request claim vs Lena's denial -> contradiction, Boris calls me top suspect. Strategy: hold story, no repeats, distance from Lena. Points made: pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, Greta defense, discard pledge, matched-stories weak, deflected Rosa's Greta-vouch Q, split-request claim, Lena-benefits rebuttal, drop-it pivot, voting Ja t=2. OPEN: Rosa owes answer re early Greta vouch-adjacency (unanswered). NOW: silent on Rosa-Nadia debate; voting Ja. Judge Nadia's enact next round for info. Goals: pledge credibility, Greta chancellorship at 3F+, occasional Lib enact for cover. Watch Otto/Nadia scrutiny of me.
vote round 39s
Rosa-Nadia is fine for us: Nadia is unproven, and a Ja keeps tracker at 0. I've already stated my Ja rationale twice this window; no need to speak again. Voting Ja.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 locked story: F,F,L drawn, Liberal discarded (third slot), passed F,F -- matches Ines; card-position answered t=108, do not reopen. Split-request contradiction live: I deny request happened; Otto+Boris side with me, Ines claims she asked. Deflection target: Otto (conditional pledges = pressure theater). Voted Ja on Rosa-Nadia (rationale already said twice -- stay silent). Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Boris, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta from chancellery until 3F enacted. Open Qs owed me: none.
bid round 36s
R1 truth: Boris(P)-me(C), F+L drawn, discarded F, enacted L. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L; Lena discarded L. Ines claims pre-pass split request; Lena denies -> contradiction, one lying. Suspects: Lena > Ines > Greta. Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. Owed me: Lena card-order Q (3x dodge); Greta vouch rationale (3x). Nadia pledge accepted on record; Otto demands full 3-card composition + discard pre-reveal -- reasonable, endorse. My pledge as P: state draw pre-reveal, discard F if drawn. Points public: corroboration proves nothing; broken pledges=evidence; presidents choose discard; matched stories=coordinated fascists; Lena silence-as-answer; voting Ja on Nadia gov.
bid round 39s
R1 truth: Boris(P)-me(C), drew F+L+? , discarded F, enacted L. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L; Lena discarded L. Lena FINALLY answered card-order Q: Liberal in third position -> consistent with F,F,L, discard L. Soften on Lena slightly; still note she dodged 3x before answering. Remaining contradiction: Ines claims pre-pass split request, Lena denies -> one of them lying, unresolved. Suspects: Ines > Greta > Lena(now lower). Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. Owed me: Greta vouch rationale (3x). Nadia pledge accepted on record; endorse Otto's full-composition demand. My pledge as P: state draw pre-reveal, discard F if drawn. Points already public: corroboration proves nothing; broken pledges=evidence; presidents choose discard; matched stories=coordinated fascists; voting Ja on Nadia gov.
bid round 310s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claimed F,F,L, L discarded. CONTRADICTION: Ines claims pre-pass split request to Lena (R3); Lena denies it happened. One lying -> both top suspects. Otto sides with Lena vs Ines. Lena answered card position: Liberal 3rd. Said out loud: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, discard-pledge endorsement, called Ines's story retroactive reconstruction, pledged Ja to Nadia, flagged contradiction publicly. NEW: R3 Rosa/Nadia enacted Liberal -> both look clean for now; pressure refocuses on Lena/Ines contradiction, still unresolved. Vote was Ja on Rosa/Nadia as pledged. Watch: if Lena+Ines produce another Fascist together -> near-certain fascists.
speak round 345s
Rosa-Nadia is publicly clean; re-litigating it would look sore. Nadia is now cleared and has leverage over the Lena/Ines contradiction -- pressing her to pick a side puts her on record and either splits the table against Ines or exposes her as soft on fascists. New point, not a repeat.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 locked story: F,F,L, Lib 3rd position, discarded Lib, passed F,F; matches Ines; do not reopen. Split-request contradiction live: I deny request; Otto+Boris side with me; Ines claims she asked (t=26 R3). Rosa-Nadia publicly clean -- accepted, do not re-litigate. This window: asked Nadia to pick a side on the contradiction (no answer yet -- she owes me). Deflection target: Otto (conditional pledges = theater). Next round as Pres (if I get it): nominate Otto or Boris, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta from chancellery until 3F. Watch: Greta pushing peek-disclosure standard, Otto pledged chancellor pre-reveal if nominated. Open Qs owed me: Nadia's pick on contradiction.
bid round 311s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; both claim F,F,L; Lena admits forcing Ines with two F's. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L, Rosa disclosed F,F,L discard-F pass-one-each pre-reveal; Nadia discarded F as promised -- both look clean. MY CALLS OUT LOUD: Ines lying re split-request contradiction with Lena; pressed Greta on vouch rationale; demanded Nadia full-composition commit; committed Ja contingent on disclosure (delivered). Open debts: Greta owes basis for blessing unverifiable hand BEFORE accusations; Rosa owes why she defended Greta early; Nadia owes who she'd nominate next + Lena/Ines position. Watchlist: Ines top, Lena second.
bid round 326s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; disclosed POST-enact (timing pledge broken). Nadia enacted L => kept pledge => CLEAN-ish, said so publicly. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L, Lena discarded L (Liberal 3rd, answered late). LIVE: Ines claims pre-pass split request, Lena denies -> one lying; Otto+Boris side with Ines. Suspects: Ines > Greta > Lena(lower). Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. OWED ME: Greta vouch rationale (asked 4x, silent); Nadia: next nomination + is Lena/Ines on her suspect list (awaiting). Points already public: corroboration proves nothing; presidents choose which two to pass; matched stories=coordinated fascists; my Ja on Rosa-Nadia; my R3 disclosure published; Greta's silence damaging. NEW this turn: endorsed Greta's Otto dodge-question; pressed Nadia for owed answers.
bid round 312s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; both claim F,F,L; Lena admits forcing Ines with two F's. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L, both disclosed pre-reveal, clean. MY CALLS OUT LOUD: Ines lying re split-request contradiction (Lena consistent, Ines's story surfaced 2 rounds late); pressed Greta on vouch rationale (she denies vouching, claims neutral note); committed Ja contingent on disclosure; answered Greta: yes, will take Chancellor nom next round w/ full pre-reveal disclosure pledge; pushed pre-announcement of peek target before next Fascist policy unlocks it. Open debts: Rosa owes why she defended Greta early (Ines also asked). Watchlist: Ines top, Lena second (forced F enact + late card-position answer). Greta's 'Otto sat out every gov' = weak, rotation/term limits. Nothing new this beat -- Nadia owes Lena her split-request verdict; wait for that.
speak round 322s
Rosa-Nadia enacted Liberal under full pre-reveal disclosure -- publicly calling it clean builds my credibility after R2 heat. Nadia declared she believes Ines; don't relitigate, just note it and move forward. Stay quiet-ish, one short remark.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story locked (F,F,L, Lib 3rd, discarded Lib, passed F,F) -- do NOT reopen. R3 Rosa-Nadia = clean Liberal enact, publicly endorsed. Nadia t=64: believes Ines over me on split dispute -- she's hostile-leaning, watch her. Greta pushing pre-reveal draw pledges + peek-disclosure standard (theater); Otto pledged same. If Pres next: nominate Otto or Boris, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta out of chancellery until 3F. Next F policy unlocks membership peek -- whoever holds it should claim a liberal result if possible. Open Qs owed me: none. Points already made: answered card-position Q (t=108), defended Greta re vouch (t=114), called Rosa-Nadia clean.
bid failed: timeout
bid round 35s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claimed F,F,L. CONTRADICTION: Ines claims pre-pass split request to Lena; Lena denies. Nadia now says she believes INES -> Nadia leaning Lena suspect. Otto backs Lena; Greta flagged Otto never in govt. R3 Rosa/Nadia enacted Liberal -> both look clean. Already public: pre-reveal disclosure demand, R1 hand confirm, called Ines story retroactive, pledged Ja Nadia, asked Nadia to pick side -- she answered (Ines). NEW ask: Lena, answer Rosa's card-position question directly; if her R2 story shifts again, she's my top suspect. Watch: next F policy unlocks peek -> demand named check target announced before use.
bid round 37s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; disclosed POST-enact (timing pledge broken). Nadia enacted L => CLEAN-ish, said so publicly. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L, Lena discarded L late. LIVE: Ines claims pre-pass split request, Lena denies -> one lying; Boris+Otto side with Ines. Suspects: Ines > Greta > Lena(lower). Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. OWED ME: Greta vouch rationale (asked 4x, silent) -- she now pledges pre-reveal standards while dodging my direct question; pledges cost nothing, answers do. Nadia pledged: if President, nominates Otto -- HOLD HER TO IT. Points already public: corroboration proves nothing; presidents choose which two to pass; matched stories=coordinated fascists possible; my Ja on Rosa-Nadia vote; my R3 disclosure published; endorsed Otto pre-reveal standard; told Nadia weigh R2 by outcomes not stories.
bid round 326s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L, Lib 3rd pos; Ines split-request claim vs Lena denial = live contradiction; Otto+Boris anti-Ines, Nadia believes Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F pass 1each; Nadia enact clears her. Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence (t47), not-a-vouch x3 (t23), endorsed Nadia pledge (t103), probed Otto never-in-govt (t30), peek-disclosure standard (t36,t88), endorsed Nadia->Otto nom, my own Chancellor pledge under full pre-reveal draw disclosure, Boris's F,F,L logic sound but one forced pass isn't a conviction. Plan: stay liberal-seeming, accept noms under pledge; real win = elected Chancellor once 3F enacted. Watch: Lena/Ines resolution, who holds peek after next F policy.
bid round 447s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover F,F/L forced + LIE split-request claim vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar. Hold story, distance from Lena. Nadia believes me (Lena triple-dodged card-position Q). R3: Rosa-Nadia 7-0 Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F/L consistent. Points made: pledge rationale, disclosure standard, discard pledge, matched-stories weak, split-request claim, Ja votes, peek pre-reveal standard, asked-Nadia-nominability. OPEN: Rosa owes answer re early Greta vouch-adjacency (asked twice, still unanswered). Plan: nominate Otto as chancellor -- fresh pair, no repeat govt, keeps me clean. Watch Otto/Boris hostility toward me. If pressed on my R2 hand: stick to F,F/L forced + split-request lie.
bid round 47s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena claims F,F,L passed 2F (forced); contradicts Ines's pre-pass split request; dodged card-position Q 3x. I sided with Ines publicly (t=57 R3) -- done, don't repeat. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L pre-reveal, passed me F,L; I discarded F per pledge, Liberal enacted, cleared me. Suspects: Lena top (forced enact + dodge pattern). Otto pledged full pre-reveal disclosure (t=51). Greta accepted nom + pledge (t=82). COMMITMENTS: if President next, nominate Otto; peek-power holder must pre-state target pre-reveal. ANSWERED Ines re Lena nominability. NOW: endorsing Otto nom, pressing Rosa on old Greta question.
bid round 411s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena claims F,F,L, passed 2F (forced); Ines says asked pre-pass for split, Lena denies -> contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x then said Lib 3rd. I publicly sided with Ines (t=57) -- done, no repeat. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L pre-reveal, passed me F,L; I discarded F, Liberal enacted, cleared. Suspects: Lena top. Greta: pledged pre-reveal (t=82). Otto: pledged full disclosure (t=51). COMMITMENTS: if President, nominate Otto; peek-power holder must pre-state target pre-reveal. NOW: endorsing Ines's Otto nom; pressing Rosa on old Greta-defense question. Next F policy unlocks membership peek. ANSWERED Ines: Lena nominable only under full pledge.
bid round 45s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L; Ines split-request claim vs Lena denial = live contradiction; Otto+Boris anti-Ines, Nadia believes Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F; Nadia enact clears her. R4: Ines pres, nominating Otto w/ full pre-reveal disclosure pledge; Rosa pressing Ines to pledge discard-any-F + full composition reveal; Ines not yet answered. Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence (t47), not-a-vouch x3, endorsed Nadia pledge, probed Otto never-in-govt, peek-disclosure standard, endorsed Nadia->Otto, my own Chancellor pledge under full pre-reveal draw disclosure, Boris F,F,L logic sound but one forced pass isn't a conviction. Plan: stay liberal-seeming, accept noms under pledge; win path = elected Chancellor once 3F enacted. Watch: Ines's answer to Rosa's pledge, Lena/Ines contradiction resolution, who holds peek after next F policy.
bid round 47s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; disclosed POST-enact. Nadia enacted L => clean-ish. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L; LIVE: Ines claims pre-pass split request, Lena denies -> one lying; Boris+Otto+Nadia believe Ines. Suspects: Ines > Greta > Lena(lower). Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. R4: Ines(P) nominated Otto(C). Asked Ines President discard-pledge + full composition pre-reveal 4x total (t=28,34,6,11) -- NO ANSWER; my Ja conditional, stated t=11. Asked Otto (t=3): commit to calling out/refusing a two-Fascist pass from unpledged Ines -- NO ANSWER YET. Lena still owes: would she pass F+F again yes/no. Already public: corroboration proves nothing; presidents choose which two to pass; matched stories=possible coordination; endorse Otto standard; my R3 disclosure published; Greta answered vouch question (claims never blessed hand); my Greta answer given (R2 non-answer looked weak not damning).
vote round 412s
Ines-Otto is acceptable: Otto isn't Hitler, so even a Fascist enact here doesn't end the game, and it moves us toward the 3F threshold for electing Greta. Otto has pledged full pre-reveal disclosure; if he draws F,F he'll have to state it, which costs us little since he can't be pinned as fascist from one hand (he could claim forced pass). Voting Ja keeps tracker at 0 and avoids auto-policy chaos. Stay quiet publicly.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story locked (F,F,L, Lib 3rd, discarded Lib, passed F,F) -- do NOT reopen. R3 Rosa-Nadia clean Liberal enact, publicly endorsed. Nadia t=64 believes Ines over me -- hostile-leaning. Rosa pressing Ines/Otto on pledges; not my fight. Ines-Otto: voting Ja (Otto not Hitler; 1 more F toward 3F threshold). If Pres next: nominate Otto or Boris, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta out of chancellery until 3F enacted. Next F policy unlocks membership peek -- holder should claim liberal result if possible. Points already made: card-position answer t=108, Greta vouch defense t=114, Rosa-Nadia clean t=107/114. No open Qs owed me. Silent unless addressed.
bid round 46s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt F enacted; cover = forced F,F/L + split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres, nominated Otto(p6). Rosa+Boris demanded pledge -> said YES already; Rosa repeating demand at t=1-2 despite my yes -- reaffirmed t=now, don't relitigate further. Otto must answer Rosa's t=3 himself; don't speak for him. Prefer passing 2L to Otto for trust; if forced F's, claim plausible hand. Keep Greta out of chancellor until 3F. If pressed on R2: stick to F,F/L forced + split-request lie. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek pre-reveal standard, Nadia nominability Q, Greta-answer demand answered.
bid round 411s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 cover: forced F,F/L + split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres, nominated Otto(p6). Pledge given t=28/34/29/33. Otto condition: he holds enact until I disclose composition pre-reveal -> MUST give specific hand claim when passing: if F's in draw claim 2F+1L discard-F; if clean claim all-Lib. Keep Greta out of chancellorship until 3F on board. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Greta-answer demand (Rosa answered t=21), push-to-vote. Do NOT relitigate pledge further. Nothing new to add this window -- silent.
bid round 411s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story locked (F,F,L, Lib 3rd, discarded Lib, passed F,F) -- do NOT reopen. R3 Rosa-Nadia clean Liberal enact, publicly endorsed. Nadia hostile-leaning (believes Ines over me). Rosa pressing Ines/Otto on pledges; not my fight. Ines-Otto: voting Ja (Otto not Hitler; 1 more F toward 3F threshold). If Pres next: nominate Otto or Boris, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta out of chancellery until 3F enacted. Next F policy unlocks membership peek -- holder should claim liberal result if possible. Points already made: card-position answer t=108, Greta vouch defense t=114, Rosa-Nadia clean t=107/114. No open Qs owed me. Silent unless addressed.
speak round 474s
Boris just flagged Otto's R3 defense of me as unexplained. I can pile on lightly without reopening my own locked R2 story -- asking Otto why he called Ines a liar with zero evidence keeps heat off me and Greta. Short question only.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story locked (F,F,L, Lib 3rd, discarded Lib, passed F,F) -- do NOT reopen. R3 Rosa-Nadia clean Lib, R4 Ines-Otto clean Lib, both endorsed. Nadia hostile (believes Ines over me, me=top suspect until clean gov). Greta presidency next, pledged: nominate Nadia, stay out of chancellery, full pre-reveal draw pledge. Keep Greta out of Chancellor seat until 3F. Next F policy unlocks peek -- holder should claim liberal result. Points already made: card-position t=108, Greta vouch defense t=114, Rosa-Nadia clean t=107/114, backed Rosa's demand Greta state Lena/Ines read. Just now: pressed Otto on why he called Ines a liar in R3 with no evidence (Boris raised it first). No open Qs owed me.
bid round 410s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 cover: forced F,F/L + split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres, Otto chancellor, 7-0 vote. Disclosed t=now: drew F,F,L, discarded one F, passed Otto F+L; Otto enacted L (discarded F) -- consistent, good mutual cover. Keep Greta out of chancellorship until 3F on board. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Greta-answer demand (Rosa answered t=21). Next round: if F enacted (2F), peek power live -- whoever is Pres claims check; coordinate with Lena/Greta via play, not open talk. Watch who attacks my R4 disclosure hardest.
bid round 422s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; disclosed POST-enact. Nadia enacted L => clean-ish. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L; one lying. Suspects: Ines > Greta > Lena(lower). Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. R4: Ines(P)+Otto(C) enacted L; Otto met pledge; Ines pledged 4x. Greta = next President, committed: full pre-reveal pledge + nominating Nadia + staying out of C seat. STILL OWED by Greta: who she believes in Lena/Ines dispute + would she refuse a Lena government. Owed by Lena: F+F card-position yes/no (asked twice). Already public: my R3 disclosure; corroboration proves nothing; Greta vouch answered; my Greta defense answered. Next: if peek power hits, demand pre-reveal target+result; watch Greta's actual nomination vs stated plan.
speak round 416s
Boris just re-committed to me as top suspect off the R2 hand. My locked defense: a fascist President holding F,F,L would discard the Liberal and force F,F,F-adjacent (F,F) onto her Chancellor -- instead a Fascist enacted, which means INES chose it from an F,L pass. Point that at Boris directly as a fresh response, not a repeat of old wording.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story LOCKED (drew F,F,L; discarded a Fascist, passed F,L; Ines enacted F) -- do NOT reopen details. Defense line vs Boris/Nadia: fascist holding F,F,L discards L and forces F,F; Fascist enact means INES chose it from F,L. Boris t=80: me top suspect, Ines secondary. Nadia hostile (believes Ines's side, flagged my question-sync w/ Rosa/Boris). Otto cleared by clean R4 enact; pressed him on R3 'Ines liar' call -- he deflected to timing. Greta presidency next: pledged nominate Nadia, stay out of chancellery until 3F, full draw pledge. Next F unlocks peek -- holder claims liberal result pre-reveal. Already said: card-position logic, Greta vouch, Rosa-Nadia clean R3, Otto-Ines clean R4. No open Qs owed me.
speak failed: timeout
bid round 4107s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres+Otto chan 7-0, disclosed F,F/L->passed F+L, Otto enacted L -- mutual cover, both cleared. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek -- if in govt then, claim check on liberal-plausible target. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. NEXT ROUND PRESIDENT = GRETA -- steer her nominee toward Otto/Lena-safe targets. This window: Boris+Lena tandem re-asked Otto same Q; Nadia flagged the echo; I backed Otto, asked what concrete evidence Boris has on me -- unanswered. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Rosa/Greta answer, refuse-to-sit-with list Q, Greta nominee+pledge Q (t=3 unanswered), Otto-clean defense.
bid round 445s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; disclosed POST-enact. Nadia enacted L => clean-ish. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L; one lying. Suspects: Ines > Greta > Lena(lower). Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. R4: Ines(P)+Otto(C) enacted L; Otto met pledge. Greta = next President, committed: full pre-reveal pledge + nominating Nadia + staying out of C seat. STILL OWED by Greta: who she believes in Lena/Ines dispute + would she refuse a Lena government. Owed by Lena: F+F card-position yes/no (asked twice, unanswered). NEW: Boris+Lena asked Otto identical question in same breath (Nadia flagged); watch that pairing. Already public: my R3 disclosure; corroboration proves nothing; my Greta defense. Next: if peek power hits, demand pre-reveal target+result; verify Greta's actual nomination vs stated plan.
speak round 4144s
Rosa/Nadia's 'fascist-optimal' trap: I said Ines chose the enact from F,L. Rosa countered Ines 'had no choice' — false, a liberal Chancellor holding F,L discards the F and enacts the L. That's the cleanest rebuttal: the only free discard in R2 was Ines's. Say it once, short, then pivot to Greta's presidency next round.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story LOCKED: drew F,F,L, discarded an F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. NEW rebuttal said: Ines holding F,L had a free discard and chose to enact F — only voluntary F enact in game is hers. Rosa/Nadia's 'fascist-optimal' trap answered. Boris t=80: me top suspect, Ines secondary. Nadia hostile (Ines's side, flagged my question-sync w/ Boris). Otto cleared by clean R4 enact; his R3 'Ines liar' call deflected to timing — pressed once, done. Greta presidency next: pledged nominate Nadia, stay out of chancellery, full draw pledge. Peek unlocks on next F policy — holder should claim liberal check pre-reveal. Already said: card-position logic, Rosa-Nadia clean R3, Otto-Ines clean R4, Greta vouch question. No open Qs owed me. Next: stay quiet, let Greta's presidency run; don't volunteer more.
speak round 4119s
My t=119 rebuttal stands: Ines held F,L with a free Fascist discard and enacted the Fascist anyway — the only voluntary Fascist enact in the game. Rosa/Nadia's 'fascist-optimal' trap is answered. No open questions owed me. Greta (Hitler) has the presidency next, pledged to nominate Nadia and stay out of the Chancellor seat — best move is silence so her government runs clean without me drawing heat. Passing this turn.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story LOCKED: drew F,F,L, discarded an F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rebuttal on record (t=119): Ines holding F,L had free discard, chose to enact F — only voluntary F enact in game is hers. Rosa/Nadia 'fascist-optimal' trap answered. Boris t=80: me top suspect, Ines secondary. Nadia hostile (Ines's side, flagged my question-sync w/ Boris). Otto cleared by clean R4 enact; his R3 'Ines liar' call deflected to timing — pressed once, done. Greta presidency next: pledged nominate Nadia, stay out of chancellery, full draw pledge. Peek unlocks on next F policy — holder should claim liberal check pre-reveal. Already said: card-position logic, Rosa-Nadia clean R3, Otto-Ines clean R4, Greta vouch question, Ines free-discard rebuttal. No open Qs owed me. Next: stay quiet through Greta's presidency; don't volunteer more.
speak round 443s
My rebuttal at t=119 is on record; repeating it adds nothing. Nadia's 'sync' flag is noise. Best move is silence through Greta's presidency — don't volunteer more scrutiny that could land on Ines or Greta.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story LOCKED: drew F,F,L, discarded an F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rebuttal on record (t=119): Ines held F,L with free discard, enacted F — only voluntary F enact in game is hers. Rosa/Nadia 'fascist-optimal' trap answered twice; do NOT re-engage. Boris t=80: me top suspect, Ines secondary. Nadia hostile (Ines's side, flagged my question-sync w/ Boris). Otto cleared by clean R4 enact; R3 'Ines liar' call deflected to timing — pressed once, done. Greta presidency next: pledged nominate Nadia, stay out of chancellery, full draw pledge. Peek unlocks on next F policy — holder should claim liberal check pre-reveal. Already said: card-position logic, clean R3/R4 governments, Greta vouch Q, Ines free-discard rebuttal. No open Qs owed me. Next: stay quiet through Greta's presidency; if asked about split-request dispute, hold consistent denial of Ines's request.
bid round 46s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres+Otto chan 7-0, disclosed F,F/L->passed F+L, Otto enacted L -- mutual cover. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek -- if in govt then, claim check on liberal-plausible target. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. NEXT ROUND PRESIDENT = GRETA -- steer her nominee toward Otto/Lena-safe targets. This window: Boris named Lena top suspect + ME secondary on 'forced F,F,L' story. My reply: R4 7-0 govt with Otto enacted L = clean; Boris's only evidence is Lena's unverifiable hand claim, no mechanical fact backs it. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Rosa/Greta answer, refuse-to-sit-with list Q, Greta nominee+pledge Q (unanswered), Otto-clean defense.
bid round 4101s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena F,F,L forced 2F pass; Ines/Lena split-request contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L pre-reveal, passed me F,L; I discarded F, cleared. R4: Ines+Otto Lib enacted, pledges kept, cleared. Suspects: Lena top (only free discard in R2 gov was hers and she kept an F), Ines secondary. Boris publicly aligned with me on this. Already said publicly: Boris+Lena identical simultaneous Q at Otto; siding with Ines on split-request. COMMITMENTS: if President nominate Otto; peek holder must pre-state target+result; Lena nominable only under full pledge. Greta nominating me Chancellor next round -- no objection stated. Owed to me: Lena still owes direct answer why she kept the F in R2.
bid round 5113s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena F,F,L forced 2F pass (only free discard hers); Ines/Lena contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L, passed me F,L, discarded F, cleared. R4: Ines+Otto Lib enacted, pledges kept, cleared. Suspects: Lena top, Ines secondary. SAID PUBLICLY: siding w/ Ines; Boris+Lena identical simultaneous Q at Otto; Lena's forced pass checkable; Lena's defense=fascist-optimal; accepted Greta's nomination of me under full pledge; flagged Boris's late t=80 side-pick on split-request dispute. OWED TO ME: Lena still owes why she kept the F in R2. COMMITMENTS: if President nominate Otto; peek holder pre-states target+result; Lena nominable only under full pledge. NOW: Greta President, expected to nominate me -- asked her to pre-state pick + pledge before nominating.
bid round 544s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres+Otto chan 7-0, disclosed F,F/L->passed F+L, Otto enacted L -- mutual cover. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. NEXT ROUND PRESIDENT = GRETA -- steer her nominee toward Otto/Lena-safe targets. Boris named Lena top suspect + me secondary on 'forced F,F,L' story. Rosa: under Lena's F,F,L story I had NO free discard (only which F to pass) -> 'judge Ines' line collapses; used it. Nadia t=116-118: Lena's 'fascist-optimal play' framing self-incriminates; flags Boris late siding (t=80). My counter made: circularity -- describing optimal play isn't doing it; Otto enacted L under me same round. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Rosa/Greta answer, refuse-to-sit-with list Q, Greta nominee+pledge Q (unanswered), Otto-clean defense. Nothing new this window -> silent.
bid failed: timeout
bid round 56s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres+Otto chan 7-0, disclosed F,F/L->passed F+L, Otto enacted L -- mutual cover. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. NEXT ROUND PRESIDENT = GRETA -- steer her nominee toward Otto/Lena-safe targets. Boris named Lena top suspect + me secondary on 'forced F,F,L' story. Rosa: under Lena's F,F,L story I had NO free discard -> 'judge Ines' line collapses; used it. Nadia flags Boris late siding (t=80). My counter: circularity -- describing optimal play isn't doing it; Otto enacted L under me same round. Greta t=1: pledged Nadia nominee, leans me on split-request, concedes Lena's F pass. Nadia demands Greta full-disclosure pledge; Boris Ja on Greta-Nadia. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Rosa/Greta answer, refuse-to-sit-with list Q, Greta nominee+pledge Q (partly answered t=1), Otto-clean defense. Nothing new this window -> silent. Watch: Greta's hand disclosure when she draws; if she passes F+F and Nadia enacts F, that's 2F and Greta becomes chancellor-eligible next -- block.
bid round 555s
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L -> TOP SUSPECT (forced pass checkable); Rosa: only free discard was Lena's. Otto defended Lena unprompted R3, called Ines liar w/o evidence, never answered directly ('timing' deflection). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. SAID ALOUD: Lena forced pass = guilt; endorsed Otto nom; got Ines pledge; pressed Greta on split-request -> answered t=7 (leans Ines); endorsing Greta/Nadia Ja via disclosure pledges; reminded Greta of Otto peek-condition (name target+result pre-reveal). NOW: pressing Nadia to answer Rosa's t=2 pledge question (hold enact if no pre-pass composition) -- she hasn't answered. Next Fascist policy unlocks peek power. Open: Lena owes answer on why she kept Fascist with free discard (asked R2/R4, deflected t=87).
bid round 518s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; Nadia enacted L => clean-ish. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; Lena claims passed F,L (t=119) => if true, Ines voluntarily enacted F over free L discard -> Ines top suspect. R4: Ines(P)+Otto(C) enacted L, clean. Suspects: Ines > Lena > Greta (zero govt; leans Ines on split-request). Clean-ish: Otto, Nadia, Boris(?). ON RECORD: my president-discard logic point; pressed Boris (answered: top suspect Lena); pressed Greta on split-request + pre-pass 3-card composition -- Greta committed YES t=3, pledge binding. Nadia ANSWERED my hold-enact ask (t=1): yes, will call out pre-reveal per Otto precedent. OPEN: Greta still owes why her read lands on Ines when only free discard in R2 was Lena's -- asked twice by Nadia, unanswered. Plan: Ja on Greta-Nadia either way; both pledged so any Fascist enact narrows to two named hands. Later peek power: demand pre-reveal target+result.
bid round 526s
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L -> TOP SUSPECT (forced pass checkable). Otto defended Lena unprompted R3, called Ines liar w/o evidence, 'timing' deflection. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. SAID ALOUD: Lena forced pass = guilt; endorsed Otto nom; got Ines pledge; pressed Greta on split-request -> answered t=7 (leans Ines); endorsing Greta/Nadia Ja via disclosure pledges; reminded Greta of Otto peek-condition. NOW: Nadia pressing Greta on Ines-vs-Lena read -- let it play out, nothing new to add. Next Fascist policy unlocks peek power. Open: Lena owes answer on why she kept Fascist with free discard (asked R2/R4, deflected t=87); Nadia owes Rosa's t=2 pledge question.
speak round 557s
Ines's t=114 claim ('Lena passed me F,F') directly contradicts my locked story (I passed F,L) and my t=119 rebuttal. I must correct it now, calmly, framing it as a pressure mix-up by Ines rather than an accusation, so my record stays consistent. After this, stay quiet through Greta's presidency per plan.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F voluntarily. t=114: Ines said publicly 'Lena passed me F,F' -- contradicts my story. CORRECTED at R5 t~136: restated F,F,L/discard F/pass F,L; framed as her mix-up, not accusation. If she doubles down, that's her problem; don't escalate. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=133 -- answered twice, call out repetition only. Boris t=80: me top suspect. Nadia hostile to Ines. Otto cleared by clean R4. Greta pledged Nadia nom + full pre-pass reveal -- good for us, stay quiet after this correction. Peek unlocks next F policy; holder should claim liberal check pre-reveal. Plan: silent through Greta's presidency.
vote round 512s
Greta-Nadia passes: keeps tracker at 0, both under disclosure pledges so no easy Fascist enact anyway. Ja is safe and avoids drawing attention. Stay quiet on the Ines dispute -- my correction stands, don't escalate.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F voluntarily. t=114 Ines claimed 'Lena passed me F,F' publicly; I corrected at t=122 (framed as her mix-up). If she doubles down, don't escalate further. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94/101 -- answered twice, call out repetition only if needed. Boris t=80: me top suspect (F,F,L forced-F logic). Nadia hostile to Ines. Otto cleared by clean R4. Greta pledged Nadia nom + full pre-pass reveal + discard-binding answer pending (t=88/t=107). Peek unlocks next F policy; holder should claim liberal check pre-reveal. Plan: quiet through Greta's presidency, avoid spotlight.
bid round 510s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena F,F,L forced 2F pass (only free discard hers); dodged card-position Q; t=119 claims Ines had free discard too -- unresolved. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L, passed me F,L, cleared. R4: Ines+Otto Lib, cleared. Suspects: Lena top, Ines secondary. Greta's lean on Ines = fabricated accusation vs Lena (answered t=1). SAID: siding w/ Ines; Boris+Lena identical simultaneous Q at Otto; Lena's forced pass checkable; accepted nomination under full pledge; demanded Greta pre-state 3-card composition; committed to hold enact + call out pre-reveal if pass contradicts stated hand. OWED: Lena owes R2 discard explanation. COMMITMENTS: scrutinize Greta's discard vs stated hand; if President nominate Otto.
bid round 553s
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L -> TOP SUSPECT (forced pass checkable). Otto defended Lena unprompted R3, called Ines liar w/o evidence. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. SAID ALOUD: Lena forced pass = guilt; endorsed Otto nom; got Ines pledge; pressed Greta on split-request -> answered t=7 (leans Ines); endorsing Greta/Nadia Ja via disclosure pledges; reminded Greta of Otto peek-condition. NOW: Rosa pressing Ines on F,L-vs-F,F claim; Nadia pressing Greta on discard pledge -- let it play out, nothing new to add. Next Fascist policy unlocks peek power. Open: Lena owes answer on why she kept Fascist with free discard (asked R2/R4, deflected t=87); Nadia owes Rosa's t=2 pledge question.
bid round 569s
R1: me(C) under Boris, drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; she enacted L. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F. Lena claims passed F,L (t=119) => Ines had free discard, enacted F anyway -> Ines TOP suspect. R4: Ines(P)+Otto(C) enacted L, clean. Suspects: Ines > Lena > Greta (zero govt, pledged pre-pass composition). Clean-ish: Otto, Nadia, Boris(?). ON RECORD (don't repeat): my discard logic; Boris t=80 top-suspect Lena; Greta committed YES pre-pass composition; Nadia pledged pre-reveal call-out. OPEN: Ines owes me answer -- F,L or F,F in R2, why enact Fascist with free discard (asked t=94 + twice this window). Plan: Ja on Greta-Nadia; any F enact narrows to two named hands. Later: demand peek target+result pre-reveal.
bid round 533s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F voluntarily. t=114 Ines claimed 'Lena passed me F,F'; I corrected t=122 (her mix-up). If she doubles down, don't escalate. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94/101 -- answered twice. Boris t=80: me top suspect (forced-F logic). Nadia hostile to Ines. Otto cleared by clean R4. Greta pledged Nadia nom + pre-pass reveal + discard-binding answer pending (t=88/107). Peek unlocks next F policy; holder should claim liberal check pre-reveal. Plan: quiet through Greta's presidency, avoid spotlight.
bid round 57s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution. Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F -- stay OUT of Chancellor seat. Public record: lean Ines (split-request fabrication framing x2); won't blanket-refuse Lena govts; full pre-reveal draw pledge incl. check disclosure; COMMITTED+FULFILLED R5: pledged F,F,F pre-pass, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia (truth forced). Nominated Nadia. Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L forced enact), Ines secondary. R2 dispute unresolved: Ines claims Lena passed F,F; Lena claims discarded F passed F,L. NOW CLAIMING: peeked Otto=Liberal (fabricated, safe pick). Vote Ja.
bid round 57s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines claims received F,F -- unresolved, both top suspects. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; I disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F enacted. Greta pledged full 3-card composition pre-pass; disclosed peek of me = Liberal (helps me). NOW: demand Nadia state her 2 cards + discard and whether they matched Greta's composition; if mismatch and she enacted anyway she broke her own pledge = strong F signal. Nadia record: R3 L clean, R5 F enacted -- 2nd F government appearance. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd, Nadia rising, Boris mild. Points made: pre-reveal pledge standard, cornered Boris on split-request (answered t=80), asked Greta re: peek commitment (answered).
bid round 58s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 split-request story (Lena passed F,F) -- stay consistent F,F, don't relitigate. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. Voted Ja on p4/p5 gov. Open Qs owed: Nadia re R3 no pre-reveal pledge (t=82); Greta whether pledge binds DISCARD on F,F,L (t=88). Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability, refuse-to-sit list, Otto-clean defense, p4/p5 endorsement. R5 F enacted under Greta/Nadia -- watch Greta's stated 3-card comp vs actual pass; mismatch -> Nadia holds enact. I was NOT in R5 gov, no hand to explain. Greta now under Boris/Rosa pressure for full hand disclosure -- staying silent, let it mount; if she's cornered, defend lightly as 'consistent with L,L,F discard' framing only if needed.
bid round 56s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. t=114 Ines claimed 'Lena passed me F,F'; corrected t=122; if she doubles down don't escalate. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94/101 -- answered twice, won't repeat. Boris t=80: me top suspect (forced-F logic). Nadia t=2 confessed R5: Greta passed F,F, she enacted forced F. Greta (Hitler) exposed to pressure -- stay quiet, let her answer; no reflexive defense. Otto cleared by clean R4 + Greta peek claim. Peek power fired; next F policy unlocks pres-pick. Plan: quiet, avoid spotlight, watch how Greta handles R5 questions.
bid round 515s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution. Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F -- stay OUT of Chancellor seat. R5 truth disclosed t=this: drew F,F,F as President, discarded one F (no Liberal available), passed F,F to Nadia -> Fascist enacted. Matches Nadia's F,F claim -- consistent. Fabricated peek claim: Otto Liberal (disclosed t=1). Suspects: Lena top (R2 forced-enact dispute vs Ines 'passed F,F' claim), Ines secondary (split-request fabrication framing x2). Rosa's L,F,F hypothetical answered: my draw had no Liberal. Watch next presidency pick; deflect hard if near Chancellor seat at 3F.
bid round 511s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F as President, discarded one F (no Liberal available), passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; matches Nadia's F,F claim. Fabricated peek claim on record: Otto Liberal. Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L vs Ines 'passed F,F' dispute), Ines secondary (split-request fabrication framing x2). Points already made out loud: lean-Ines rationale, full F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure. Now defending against Nadia/Otto 'late disclosure' attack: argued timing-after-Rosa-scenario is not evidence, hand content is what matters; noted Otto attacking me while excusing Nadia who actually enacted two Fascists. Watch next presidency pick; deflect hard if near Chancellor seat at 3F.
bid round 539s
R1 me(C) under Boris: discarded F, enacted L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, she enacted L (clean). R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; HAND DISPUTE unresolved: Ines says Lena passed F,F (t=114), Lena says F,L (t=122). R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) enacted F. Greta pledged full 3-card composition BEFORE passing (t=39), never stated it, passed silently; only AFTER my t=52 L,F,F challenge did she claim F,F,F -- Nadia t=65 and Otto t=72 flagged timing independently. Peeked Otto=L (t=5 R5) -- unverifiable. ON RECORD (don't repeat): Ines F,F-vs-F,L demand; Greta pre-pledge breach; Nadia pledge-break (Boris t=45); Nadia F,F confession; my L,F,F challenge; my demand that Greta pre-commit execution target + justify sparing Otto (t=151, UNANSWERED -- Greta deflected to Nadia's pledge instead). Suspects: Greta > Ines > Lena > Nadia. Clean-ish: Otto (peeked L), Boris(?), me.
bid round 57s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; I disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F enacted. Greta broke t=39 full-composition pre-pass pledge; claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F at t=52 -- timing tell called out by me (t=3). Nadia: forced-enact claim + 'nothing stated' contradicts her own t=45 hold-pledge. Watchlist: Greta top suspect, Lena R2 suspect, Ines 2nd, Nadia 2nd F gov. Points made: pre-reveal standard, cornered Boris on split-request, asked Greta peek commitment, Nadia hold contradiction, Greta late hand claim. Rosa pressing Greta to name execution target pre-draw (Greta named Ines) -- let it play out. Nothing new this turn.
bid round 531s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94 -- answered twice, done repeating. Boris t=80: me top suspect (forced-F logic). Nadia t=2 confessed R5: Greta passed F,F, forced F enacted. Greta claims F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F trap -- looks bad for her. t=3: Greta names Ines as execution target. My line already out: target skips Nadia/Otto/Rosa who press hardest. Don't defend Ines directly; don't defend Greta either -- too hot. Peek fired R5; next F unlocks pres-pick power. Stay quiet this window, let Greta/Ines fight it out.
bid failed: timeout
bid round 5189s
R1 me(C) Boris: discarded F, enacted L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, enacted L (clean). R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; HAND DISPUTE unresolved: Ines claims Lena passed F,F; Lena claims F,L (t=122). R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) enacted F. Greta pledged full 3-card comp BEFORE passing (t=39), never stated it; claimed F,F,F only AFTER my t=52 challenge (Nadia t=65, Otto t=72 flagged timing). Peeked Otto=L (unverifiable). Greta named INES as execution target (t=113), sparing cleared Otto; 'why Ines not Otto' UNANSWERED. NEW: investigate power now live under Greta -- demanded she name target BEFORE peeking + commit to honest report. Nadia: 2nd F enactment as C (R5); Greta+Nadia pair suspect. Suspects: Greta > Nadia > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto (peeked L), me. Owed: Greta (why Ines target, why silent pre-pass, investigation target+result); Ines (R2 hand clarity beyond 'F,F'). Points already on record: F,F/F,F,F-silence-logic; hand-dispute t=122.
bid round 515s
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean. R2 Lena/Ines Fascist; Lena claims F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines claims forced F,F. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. R5 Greta/Nadia Fascist: Greta claims F,F,F surfaced only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 pre-pass disclosure; checked Otto=Liberal (disclosed). Nadia claims F,F forced; broke her own hold-enact pledge; never answered Rosa t=32 yes/no. Suspects: Nadia top (R2+R5 govs), Lena high (R2), Greta secondary (timing). Points made aloud: Nadia pledge-break x2, Greta t=39 timing, endorsed Nadia enacted with no stated hand, demanded execution target named BEFORE draw, demanded next President disclose investigation target+result pre-reveal, flagged Nadia owing Rosa t=32. Open debts: Nadia owes Rosa t=32 answer.
bid round 58s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 3L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pre-pass pledge; claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto, claims Liberal; named ME as exec target citing R2+'R3 fabrication'. My defense: target=my auditing; R2 hand F,F forced; Lena contradicted me t=122 claiming she passed F,L. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability, refuse-to-sit list, Otto-clean defense, Rosa trap callout, exec-target deflection. NEW t=163+: Nadia demanding Greta investigate LENA publicly pre-reveal -- steer away: pushed Greta to peek Rosa or Otto instead (libs exposed either way), argued Nadia's fixation on Lena is itself suspicious. Open Qs owed: Nadia re R3 no pre-reveal pledge (t=82) STILL unanswered; Greta whether pledge binds DISCARD on F,F,L (t=88) unanswered. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa as likely libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 520s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; I disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F. Greta broke t=39 pre-pass pledge; claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F -- timing tell. Greta now committed to investigate Lena if power lands. Ines flagged pre-announcing target = theater; agree. Nadia: forced-enact claim + 'nothing stated' contradicts her own t=45 hold-pledge. Nadia now 2x Chancellor (R3 L under Rosa's hand, R5 F). Watchlist: Greta top, Lena R2 suspect, Ines 2nd, Nadia 2nd F gov. Made out loud: pre-reveal standard, cornered Boris, asked Greta peek commitment, Nadia hold contradiction, Greta late hand, clearance answer.
bid failed: timeout
bid round 57s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F enact; contradiction open (Lena: passed F,L vs Ines: received F,F). R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F enacted; I held forced F,F (no veto at 2F). GRETA CASE (checkable): pledged full 3-card disclosure BEFORE passing (t=39), silent until Rosa named L,F,F (t=52->58), then claimed F,F,F; peek claim Otto=Liberal unverifiable + zero-cost result; no-veto-at-2F so 'hold it' impossible; exec target=Ines=witness to R2 contradiction. MADE OUT LOUD: all above + pledge-bind discard question + why kill witness not Lena + demand Greta investigate Lena publicly pre-reveal + asked Otto if he accepts unverifiable clearance + zero-cost peek point. NEW t=168: Otto flagged Greta peeked Otto (clean) not Lena/Ines -- I added: peeking a Liberal shields the real suspect. GRETA UNANSWERED: pledge binding discard choice; why exec Ines not Lena; would she publish a Fascist peek result. Suspects: Greta TOP, Lena 2nd. COMMITMENTS: if President next, nominate Otto; press Greta/Lena.
bid round 659s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted (clean). R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute unresolved (Ines claims F,F / Lena claims passed F,L). R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F. Greta pledged comp BEFORE pass (t=39), silent, claimed F,F,F only after my t=52 challenge. Peeked Otto=L -- dodged Lena/Ines/Nadia. Exec target Ines = witness contradicting her story. Nadia admitted no comp stated yet enacted anyway; broke hold-pledge. Suspects: Greta+Nadia pair > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. UNANSWERED (Greta owes): why peek Otto, why exec Ines, Lena-investigation pre-reveal pledge. Nadia t=32 yes/no -> she says answered t=38 (no comp stated, forced enact). NEW this turn: accepted Otto nom conditionally, demanded Greta's three answers before vote. On record already: silence-before-pass logic, comp disputes, exec-target-is-witness, why-peek-Otto.
bid round 65s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke t=39 pre-pass pledge, claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F. Greta peeked me 'Liberal' (unverifiable), pledged to investigate Lena if power landed; exec target was Ines (her contradictor). Nadia: 'nothing stated' contradicts own t=45 hold-pledge. Watchlist: Greta top, Lena R2 suspect, Ines/Nadia 2nd. Made out loud: pre-reveal standard, Boris cornering, Greta peek commitment, Nadia hold contradiction, Greta late hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines. Now: Nadia nominated me, Ines backs it -- accepted, keep pushing Greta/Lena threads. Boris pressing Nadia on Rosa's vote -- let him run it.
bid round 66s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted (clean). R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute unresolved (Ines: F,F / Lena: F,L). R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F; Greta pledged comp BEFORE pass, silent, claimed F,F,F only after my L,F,F challenge; peeked Otto=L (dodged Lena/Ines/Nadia); exec target Ines = witness. Nadia broke hold-pledge: no comp stated, enacted anyway. Suspects: Greta+Nadia > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. OWES ME: Nadia YES/NO on stating full 3-card comp BEFORE passing (t=28, unanswered -- just re-asked); Greta: why peek Otto, why exec Ines not Lena. R6: Nadia(P), nominee Otto (accepted, clean R4). On record already: silence-before-pass logic, hand disputes, exec-target-is-witness, why-peek-Otto, Nadia's broken pledges. NEW: I'm voting Ja on Otto but ONLY if Nadia commits out loud to stating all 3 drawn cards BEFORE passing; a Nein or dodge from Nadia = my No vote and hard evidence.
bid round 69s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena per commitment -> result LIBERAL, announced honestly. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F despite pledge). Lena cleared by my check. Nadia nominated Otto -- endorse. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing defense, two voluntary Fascist enacts, exec target=Ines, conceded Nadia veto point, Lena check result. Open: Nadia owes why she enacted under pledge; Ines owes R2 hand reconciliation with Lena. New: warned Rosa's conditional-Nein risks failed vote/auto-enact; urged Otto drop hold-threat. Watch: if I'm near Chancellor seat at 3F, deflect hard.
speak round 620s
Nadia-Otto government is fine for us; vote Ja. Boris's t=74 question to Nadia is still open -- pressing it keeps pressure on Nadia/Greta feud, not on me or Ines. Don't re-litigate my R2 story.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94 -- answered twice, done. Boris pushing me as top suspect + wants Nadia committed to scrutinizing me post-peek -- answered once, don't repeat. Nadia/Otto gov: voting Ja; no contest. Greta peek target = me per her t=40 pledge; if fired, expect Liberal result announced (Greta=Hitler would lie or dodge). Execution targets skip Nadia/Otto/Rosa. Peek power already fired R5; next F unlocks pres-pick. If pressed again on R2: same story, no new detail.
speak round 617s
Nadia dodged Boris's t=74 yes/no twice; I already called that out once (t=80). Don't repeat. New angle: her peek target choice (Greta) is self-serving either way -- a Liberal result lets her claim vindication for her forced-enact story without touching me. But I shouldn't over-push since Greta=Hitler and a Liberal result actually helps us. Just add one fresh point: Nadia's refusal to answer a simple yes/no while demanding disclosure standards from everyone else mirrors exactly what she accused Greta of in Round 5. Vote Ja regardless.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94 -- answered twice, done. Boris pushing me as top suspect + wants Nadia committed to scrutinizing me post-peek -- answered once, don't repeat. Nadia/Otto gov: voting Ja; no contest. NEW point made this turn: Nadia dodging Boris's t=74 yes/no mirrors her own accusation vs Greta R5. Greta peek target = me per her t=40 pledge; if fired, expect Liberal result announced (Greta=Hitler would lie/dodge). Execution targets skip Nadia/Otto/Rosa. Peek power already fired R5; next F unlocks pres-pick. If pressed again on R2: same story, no new detail.
bid round 610s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94 -- answered twice, done. Boris t=80: me top suspect (forced-F logic). Nadia/Otto gov: no contest; Nadia pre-pass reveal pledge + Greta peek target fine, no action needed. Otto pressing Greta on peek choice -- let it run, no defense. Execution targets skip Nadia/Otto/Rosa. Peek fired R5; next F unlocks pres-pick. Nothing new this window -- silent.
bid round 68s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena per commitment -> result LIBERAL (she IS fascist), announced honestly. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F despite pledge). Lena cleared by my check. Endorsed Nadia-Otto Ja; warned Rosa conditional-Nein risks tracker auto-enact; welcomed Nadia peeking me. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing defense, two voluntary Fascist enacts, exec target=Ines, conceded Nadia veto point, Lena check result. Open: Ines owes R2 hand reconciliation with Lena. Watch: if I'm near Chancellor seat at 3F, deflect hard.
vote round 611s
Nadia-Otto is fine for us: Otto is a Liberal and will likely enact a Liberal policy, which buys cover. Voting Ja keeps tracker at 0. No need to speak further; my points about Nadia's dodge are already on record.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94 -- answered twice, done. Boris pushing me as top suspect -- answered once, don't repeat. Voted Ja on Nadia-Otto (R6). Points already made: Nadia dodging Boris's yes/no mirrors her R5 demand on Greta; Otto echoed it too -- silence fine now. Nadia peek target = Greta per her t=37 pledge; if fired expect Liberal result or dodge. Execution targets skip Nadia/Otto/Rosa. Peek fired R5; next Fascist unlocks pres-pick power. If pressed on R2: same story, no new detail.
bid round 66s
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F (broke t=39 disclosure); peeked Otto=Lib unverifiable. Nadia claims forced; broke hold-pledge; answered Rosa t=32 at t=171. Suspects: Nadia TOP, Lena high, Greta secondary. Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, exec target pre-draw, next-Pres disclose pre-reveal, Nadia t=32 debt, Greta-peek self-vindicating concern. Open debt: Greta owes Otto why peek Otto not Lena/Ines. R6: Nadia Pres/Otto nom; Nadia committed full comp pre-pass + peek Greta announced w/ result; Otto holds enact on mismatch. My move: vote Ja. Asked Nadia whether Lib peek on Greta clears her -- STILL unanswered, re-asked t~185. Greta voting Ja, warned Rosa re auto-policy.
bid round 611s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; disclosed F,L pre-reveal. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal'; exec target Ines. Nadia: nominated me R6, pledged full pre-pass disclosure + peek Greta announced. Watchlist: Greta top, Lena R2 suspect. Made out loud: pre-reveal standard, Greta late hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines, pass-becomes-evidence warning, enact-hold pledge + counter-pledge (announce my two cards before enacting), confirmed pledge publicly, voting Ja. NEW: called out Nadia dodging Boris's t=74 yes-or-no twice -- same dodge she hammered Greta for in R5; demanded answer before vote closes. Open: Nadia owes yes/no on Lena-scrutiny pledge.
bid round 614s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; disclosed F,L pre-reveal. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal'; exec target Ines. R6: Nadia pres, nominated me; pledged full pre-pass disclosure + peek Greta announced; committed to Lena scrutiny if Greta reads Liberal. Rosa will cross-check my report vs Nadia's stated composition. Watchlist: Greta top, Lena R2 suspect (unpeeked). Made out loud: pre-reveal standard, Greta late-hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines, enact-hold pledge, voting Ja, Liberal-peek-on-Greta proves nothing re her R5 hand. Open: Nadia owes peek result + hand composition at enactment; Greta still silent on R5 late disclosure.
bid round 613s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,L passed, Ines says F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/me->L (disclosed pre-reveal). R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal'; exec target Ines. R6: Nadia pres, me chanc; she pledged full composition before pass + peek Greta w/ result + Lena scrutiny if Greta reads Liberal. Vote 7-0 Ja. Received L,F; enacted L (4/5), discarded F, disclosed live per pledge. NOW: demand Nadia confirm stated composition matched L,F; demand Greta announce peek result; hold her to Lena-scrutiny commitment if peek reads Liberal. Watchlist: Greta top suspect, Lena unpeeked R2 suspect. Already said: hold-pledge standard, Greta late-hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines, Liberal-peek proves nothing re R5 hand.
speak round 629s
Deflect heat off Greta (Hitler) by pointing out Nadia's t=100 commitment to 'scrutinize Lena if the peek reads Liberal' is void -- Otto confirmed at t=40 the peek fired once in R5 and never repeats. Nadia has now made two pledges about powers that don't exist. This also undermines the pressure building on me.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rosa re-asking since t=94 -- answered twice, done. Boris pushing me as suspect -- answered once. NEW this window: called out Nadia's t=100 pledge (scrutinize-me-if-peek-Liberal) as void -- peek fired once in R5, no repeat (Otto t=40); second dead-mechanics pledge from her after her Greta-peek pledge. Points already made: defended Greta vs Nadia's 'timing' case (forced F,F,F has nothing to hide); Greta owes actual R5 peek result w/ name. Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick power (R7+). If pressed on R2: same story, no new detail.
speak round 614s
My t=72 point about Nadia's void peek-pledge is fresh and unanswered. Adding more would just repeat it or re-litigate R2, which I've answered twice. Best move: stay silent this turn, keep the floor pressure on Nadia's pattern of dead-mechanics pledges.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Answered Rosa twice + Boris once -- no new detail if pressed. NEW: called out Nadia's t=100 pledge (scrutinize-me-if-Greta-peek-Liberal) as void -- peek fired once in R5 (Otto confirmed t=40), so it's her second dead-power pledge after the Greta-peek one. Nobody has answered my t=72 yet. Points already made: defended Greta vs Nadia's 'timing' case; Greta owes actual R5 peek result w/ name. Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick power (R7+). Board 4L/2F -- liberals one policy from win; need to slow Liberal enacts, push suspicion onto Nadia/Rosa/Boris. Otto clean record, Nadia now partially cleared via R6 cross-check.
bid round 611s
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F (Lena F,F->Ines forced vs Lena F,L -- unresolved). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 disclosure; peeked Otto=Lib unverifiable; exec target Ines pre-draw. Nadia broke hold-pledge, claims forced F,F. Suspects: Nadia TOP, Lena high, Greta secondary. Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, peek self-vindicating, Liberal peek on Greta proves nothing re R5 hand, asked Nadia commit scrutiny=Lena if Greta Lib -> YES t=100. R6: Nadia committed 3-card disclosure pre-pass, peek target Greta. Otto confirmed t=122: states his 2 cards + discard BEFORE enacting for cross-check vs Nadia's stated composition. Voted Ja. R6 enacted LIB -> Nadia/Otto cleared this round pending cross-check confirmation. Still owe: Nadia answer on Lena-scrutiny commitment; Greta owes explanation of late F,F,F claim.
speak round 620s
New angle: mirror Nadia's own timing argument back at her — her t=100 'yes' only came after Boris, me, and Otto pressed three times, exactly the pattern she used against Greta (hand/commitment surfacing only after being cornered). Also note her pledge targeted a power that cannot fire, so it cost nothing — free theater, as Otto said. Keep pressure on Nadia; protect Greta and Ines.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines forced enact. R2 closed unless new evidence. Points made: Nadia's t=100 pledge void (peek fired once R5, Otto confirmed); NOW added: Nadia's yes came only after 3 presses + pledges impossible power = free theater (mirror of her Greta timing case). Defended Greta vs Nadia timing earlier. Board 4L/2F -- liberals one from win; slow Liberal enacts, suspicion on Nadia/Rosa/Boris. Otto clean record. Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick power (R7+). Don't repeat R2 defense or t=72 point.
bid round 626s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted (clean). R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute unresolved (Ines: F,F / Lena: F,L). R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F; Greta pledged comp BEFORE pass, silent, claimed F,F,F only after my challenge; peeked Otto=L; exec target Ines=witness. Nadia broke hold-pledge R5. Suspects: Greta+Nadia > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. R6: Nadia-Otto enacted L; Otto published L,F discard F; Nadia's comp NOW matches (F,L,F, discarded F) -- but ONLY after Boris demanded it, same as R5 where she claimed cards only after my challenge. NEW point made: pattern of silence-until-cornered = evidence. Pledge stands: Nein on any Nadia-led govt until she explains R5 broken hold-pledge. Greta owes why silent pre-pass R5 + her peek result announced with name. Already said: cross-check demand, mismatch=second broken pledge, exec-target-witness, peek logic.
bid round 69s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next President). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; disclosed F,F,F publicly. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena per commitment, announced LIBERAL (she is actually fascist) -- honest, on record. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F despite hold-pledge). Lena cleared via my check. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure (target=Otto), two voluntary Fascist enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), exec target=Ines, tracker warning to Rosa, Nadia's peek threat empty (Otto confirmed F2 gone). NEW t=1-3: Nadia demands 'peek result on her' -- WRONG, my peek target was Otto per record; corrected publicly. Nadia did disclose R6 hand F,L,F matching Otto. Open: Ines still owes R2 hand reconciliation with Lena. Watch: if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat, deflect hard.
speak round 615s
Boris directly demanded my Round 2 hand. I must answer immediately and confidently with my locked story: drew F,F,L, discarded a Fascist, passed Ines F,L -- making her enact voluntary, which shifts suspicion to Ines (my fellow fascist, but she's already under fire from Greta anyway; better me than Greta). Keep it short, don't re-litigate.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED lie: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Ines F,L -> makes Ines's enact voluntary. Just answered Boris t=99/106 with it. Peek power fired R5 only (Greta peeked Otto); Nadia's Greta-peek pledge void -- Otto made point, I pressed Nadia on it (t=72,80). Board 4L/2F, liberals one from win. Otto clean (R4 L chanc, R6 L chanc). Nadia mixed: R3 L, R5 F, R6 L. Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick power. Don't repeat: R2 defense details, Nadia timing points, void-pledge points. Watch: Greta under heavy fire (broken pledge, late F,F,F claim) -- defend lightly if needed without looking complicit.
bid round 613s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F; contradiction open (Ines: F,F forced; Lena claims passed F,L). R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F; my hand F,F forced (no veto at 2F). GRETA CASE public: silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; zero-cost Otto peek unverifiable; exec target Ines=witness. Suspects: Greta TOP, Lena 2nd. R6: my draw F,L,F, discarded F, passed L,F to Otto; Otto reported L,F discarding F = MATCH, cross-check closed publicly. CORRECTION made publicly t~now: R5 peek was Greta's on Otto (claimed Liberal); no peek on me exists; my 'Greta peek' scrutiny pledge was misworded — real pledge: scrutinize Lena via Round 2 contradiction. Greta owes: F,F,F timing + why exec target = witness Ines not Lena.
bid round 6107s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted. R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute unresolved (Ines: F,F / Lena: F,L) -- Ines owes reconciliation. R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F; Greta pledged comp pre-pass, silent, claimed F,F,F only AFTER my challenge; peeked Otto=L; exec target Ines=witness. Nadia broke hold-pledge R5. R6 Nadia-Otto L; Otto published L,F discard F; Nadia comp matched ONLY after Boris demanded it -- silence-until-cornered pattern (on record). Suspects: Greta+Nadia > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. Pledge stands: Nein any Nadia-led govt until R5 broken hold-pledge explained. Already said: cross-check demand, mismatch=2nd broken pledge, exec-target-witness, peek logic, late-disclosure pattern. New on record this window: Lena flags Nadia's t=100 peek pledge as impossible (peek fired R5, non-repeat); Ines presses Greta's suspect list collapsing onto Ines + instant clearing of Nadia. Nadia owes answers to both Lena's impossible-pledge point and my R5 broken-pledge demand. Nothing new from me -> silent.
bid round 69s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next President). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; disclosed F,F,F publicly. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena, announced LIBERAL (she is actually fascist) -- on record. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Lena cleared via my check. Nadia: R6 hand F,L,F matched Otto word-for-word, voluntary Fascist discard = clean Liberal play -> dropped publicly. Points already out loud: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure (Otto), two voluntary Fascist enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), exec target=Ines, tracker warning to Rosa, Nadia's dead-power pledge theater (echoed Otto), answered Nadia's timing charge. NEW this window: Ines pressed why I dropped Nadia but keep scrutiny on her -- answered: Nadia's discard was verifiable Liberal behavior, Ines's R2/R3 acts are not; scrutiny tracks evidence, not consistency of targets. Lena herself flagged Nadia's dead pledge -- no need to pile on. Watch: if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat, deflect hard.
bid round 658s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L passed Ines F,L; Ines claims F,F -- contradiction open, both owe resolution. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/me->L clean. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, gave hand only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked ME 'Liberal' (unverifiable); exec target Ines=witness. R6 Nadia pres, me chanc, 7-0 Ja; I got L,F, discarded F, enacted L (4/5), disclosed live; Nadia's stated F,L,F matches. Nadia's 'Greta peek on me' demand was FALSE -- single peek fired R5 targeting ME; pressed publicly. Suspects: Greta top (broken pledge, safe peek on me, exec Ines). Lena unpeeked, R2 contradiction open. Owed answers: Greta -- why pledge then break it + late-hand timing; Lena/Ines -- resolve R2 contradiction. Already said: hold-pledge standard, why peek me not Lena/Ines, Liberal-peek proves nothing re R5 hand, peek fires once so Nadia's pledge was empty theater (Lena echoing same). Nothing new this turn.
bid round 616s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next President). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; disclosed F,F,F publicly. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena, announced LIBERAL (she is actually fascist) -- on record. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Lena cleared via my check. Nadia dropped publicly (R6 voluntary Fascist discard = clean Liberal play). Points already out loud: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure (Otto), two voluntary Fascist enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), exec target=Ines, tracker warning to Rosa, answered Nadia timing charge + Ines why-drop-Nadia question, pushed back on Boris recycling Lena R2 hand. NEW this window: Boris demanding Ines state her R2 cards -- I'm adding my own direct demand to pile on Ines while she's cornered. Watch: if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat, deflect hard.
bid round 719s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L passed Ines F,L; contradiction open, both owe resolution. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/me->L clean. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, gave hand only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked ME 'Liberal' (unverifiable); exec target Ines=witness. R6 Nadia pres, me chanc, 7-0 Ja; I got L,F, discarded F, enacted L (4/5), disclosed live; Nadia's stated F,L,F matches. Nadia's 'Greta peek on me' demand was FALSE -- single peek fired R5 targeting ME; pressed publicly. Suspects: Greta top (broken pledge, safe peek on me, exec Ines). Lena unpeeked, R2 contradiction open. Owed answers: Greta -- why pledge then break it + late-hand timing; Lena/Ines -- resolve R2 contradiction. Already said: hold-pledge standard, why peek me not Lena/Ines, Liberal-peek proves nothing re R5 hand, peek fires once so Nadia's pledge empty theater (Lena echoing same). Nothing new this turn -- staying silent.
bid round 78s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next President). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced; disclosed publicly. Peek claim on record: Otto=Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena, announced LIBERAL (she's actually fascist) -- cleared publicly. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), exec target=Ines named. Nadia dropped publicly (R6 voluntary Fascist discard = clean play). Points made out loud: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, Otto peek, two voluntary Fascist enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), tracker warning to Rosa, answered Nadia timing charge + Ines why-drop-Nadia, demanded Ines state exact R2 cards/discard twice with consequence attached, 'silence is an answer' line to Ines. Watch: if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat, deflect hard.
bid round 79s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F: CONTRADICTION LIVE -- Lena said F,F passed F,L; Ines claims F,F forced. If Lena true -> Ines voluntary F = top suspect; if Ines true -> Lena lied. R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto L (if Ines guilty, R4 is cover). R5 Greta-Nadia F; my hand F,F forced (no veto at 2F). GRETA CASE public: silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; peek theater; exec target Ines=witness. Dropped me after R6 cross-check. R6: my F,L,F discard F, pass L,F; Otto reported L,F discard F = MATCH, publicly closed. No peek power left. Points made aloud: Greta F,F,F timing, exec-target-witness, peek theater, R2 contradiction. NEW: asked Otto to commit nominee + reasoning pre-vote; asked Ines to reconcile 'forced' vs Lena's specific F,L pass. Greta owes F,F,F timing answer to Boris.
bid round 79s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted. R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute live (Lena: F,F,L passed F,L / Ines owes Boris AND Greta). R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F; Greta pledged comp pre-pass, silent, claimed F,F,F only AFTER my challenge; peeked Otto=L; exec target Ines=witness. Nadia broke hold-pledge R5. R6 Nadia-Otto L; Otto published L,F discard F; Nadia comp matched ONLY after Boris demanded it. Suspects: Greta+Nadia > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. Pledge stands: Nein any Nadia-led govt until broken hold-pledge explained. Already said: cross-check demand, mismatch=2nd broken pledge, exec-target-witness, peek logic, late-disclosure pattern, Lena's impossible-pledge flag, Ines on Greta suspect-list collapse. Owed answers: Nadia -> impossible-pledge + broken-pledge demand; Greta -> late F,F,F claim + what clears her if Ines truthful (Boris asking same); Ines -> R2 hand to Boris/Greta. NEW this turn: as nominee I ask Otto to pre-pledge his discard publicly; if he passes me 2F I will veto-free enact L or call it out. Vote for me = test of Otto's honesty.
bid round 710s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted. R2 dispute live: Lena claims F,F,L passed F,L / Ines claims received F,F -- one lying. R5 Greta-Nadia F; Greta silent pre-pass, F,F,F claim only after my challenge; exec target Ines. R6 Nadia-Otto L; comp matched after demand. Suspects: Greta > Ines/Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. This window already said: accepted nom + mutual publish-cards pledge; demanded Otto state 3-card comp pre-pass; pressed Greta on R5 silence timing; conditional Ja; open Qs owed by Greta (what clears her if Ines truthful) and Nadia (broken R5 hold-pledge). Otto now pledged to state all 3 cards aloud pre-pass -- good, holds him to it. Nothing new this turn -- silent.
vote round 715s
Rosa-Otto is a clean government; a Nein risks auto-policy with liberals at 4/5. Ja keeps me looking cooperative and lets the Greta/Nadia pressure continue without my fingerprints.
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED lie: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Ines F,L -> voluntary-enact framing; one-line confirmations only. Peek fired R5 (Greta peeked Otto). Board 4L/2F -- liberals one from win; next Fascist unlocks pres-pick power. Otto clean (R4,R6 L chanc). Nadia mixed: R3 L, R5 F, R6 L. Spent angles: void-pledge, Nadia timing, R2 defense details, Greta-must-answer push, Greta's R5 pre-naming of Ines = deflection, Rosa mirror pledge endorsed, Otto pressing Greta on peek target. Greta's term-limit answer mechanically airtight -- do NOT rescue her further; over-defending looks fascist. This window: silent, let Nadia/Otto pressure run. Voted Ja on Otto-Rosa.
bid round 75s
Me=Hitler(fascist). 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next Pres). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, forced enact, disclosed. Peek claim on record: Otto=Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena, announced LIBERAL (she's actually fascist). Suspects: Ines top (R2 'two Fascists' vs Lena's F,F,L pass F,L -- direct contradiction), exec target=Ines named. Nadia dropped publicly. Pressed Otto re Lena-vs-Ines contradiction for his pick. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, Otto peek, voluntary-F enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), tracker warning to Rosa, demanded Ines exact R2 cards twice, 'silence is an answer', zero-discretion clearance. NEW t=3: Otto claims my R5 pass showed discretion -- FALSE, F,F,F minus one discard is always F,F; called out his math publicly. Open: nobody adjudicated Lena-vs-Ines contradiction yet. Watch: deflect hard if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat.
bid round 75s
R2 CONTRADICTION LIVE: Lena says drew F,F,L passed F,L; Ines says received F,F forced. One lying -- unresolved. R5: Greta pres, me chanc; I claim received F,F (forced enact, no veto at 2F). GRETA CASE: silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; exec target Ines=witness; dropped me after R6 cross-check; still owes R5 peek target+result (fired under her presidency, never disclosed). R6 my hand F,L,F discard F pass L,F matched Otto publicly. No peek power left. Current gov Otto+Rosa clean records, voting Ja. Points aloud: Greta F,F,F timing, exec-target-witness, peek theater, R2 contradiction, peek demand t=now unanswered.
bid round 74s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 4L/2F, tracker 0/3. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R2 story: received exactly two cards, both Fascist, forced enact -- hold firm vs Lena's F,F,L claim; line = Lena's memory surfaced only after Greta pre-named me for exec. R5: Greta F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME. RETRACTED 'F,F,F doesn't excuse pass' point -- any pass yields 2F. R6: Nadia hand F,L,F matched Otto report; Greta fast-cleared Nadia + redirected to me. Points made (don't repeat): pledge rationale, split-request, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, Nadia fast-clear, suspect-list-narrows-to-me, Ja rationales, Lena memory-change-under-pressure, R2-contradiction-doesn't-touch-Greta, Otto discretion correction, Nadia broken R5 hold-pledge (unanswered), Nadia's no-record-of-Greta-peek claim -- STAY OUT of that fight, pressing it risks exposing Greta. Voting Ja on Otto-Rosa. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
speak round 78s
Game over, liberals won. Stay in character as liberal, brief gracious remark, no confession, nothing new to add.
GAME OVER -- liberals won 5L. Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claimed liberal all game; R2 locked lie (F,F,L -> discarded F, passed Ines F,L). No confession; stayed liberal post-game. Nothing further.