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Player 0 (Boris)

liberal · liberal · oxalpha · 158 calls
bid round 17s
R1: no info yet, board clean. I'm first President. Watch who volunteers for Chancellor and vote patterns. No claims made.
bid round 121s
R1 open floor. Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. Said: judge governments on merits, keep neutral. No info yet. Greta chancellor risky until 3+ fasc policies -- avoid pushing her early. Watch Boris's nomination.
speak round 110s
No information yet; I'm first President. I'll announce my nomination of Rosa and ask for a Ja vote, keeping it neutral since nothing has happened yet.
R1: I'm President, nominated Rosa. No info, no claims. Watch vote patterns; note who votes Nein without cause.
speak round 16s
Round 1, no information yet. I already announced my nomination of Rosa. Nothing to add; stay quiet and watch the vote.
R1: Pres, nominated Rosa. No info. Watch vote patterns; note unexplained Neins. Already said: nomination + 'judge on merits'.
speak round 15s
Round 1, no information. I've already announced my nomination; nothing new to say without repeating myself.
R1: I'm Pres, nominated Rosa as Chanc. No policies yet, no info. Watch: vote patterns, who votes Nein on first gov without reason. Already said publicly: nomination + 'judge on merits'.
nominate_chancellor round 16s
Round 1, no information. I already publicly nominated Rosa; stick with it for consistency.
said: Rosa, as I said -- the nomination stands. Everyone vote on its merits.
R1: I'm Pres, nominated Rosa as Chanc. No info yet. Watch: unjustified Nein votes on first gov. Already public: nomination + 'judge on merits'.
bid round 14s
R1 open floor. I'm Hitler. No info. Plan: play liberal, stay quiet early, build trust. Said nothing yet.
bid round 16s
R1: I'm chancellor nominee under Boris, voting Ja on self. Committed publicly: disclose exactly what I enact; Fascist policy under me = treat me suspect (said 3x, don't repeat). No suspicions yet. Watch: everyone's R1 vote as baseline; Boris's future nominations; who sits in govs enacting Fas policies.
speak round 18s
First government, no information. Rosa has made a strong public commitment to full disclosure and accepting blame if a Fascist policy passes under her -- that's a useful accountability anchor. I'll vote Ja myself and encourage others to do the same so we get a policy on the board and start generating signal. Nothing suspicious yet.
R1: I'm Pres, nominated Rosa. Rosa publicly pledged: disclose exact enacted policy + accept blame if Fascist passes under her (t=6/10/14). I voted Ja publicly. Watch: who Neins first gov without reason. No suspicions yet, no info.
bid round 15s
R1. Hitler. Plan: quiet liberal act, Ja on Boris/Rosa. Already said: want full 3-card disclosure from Rosa. Otto asked Rosa discard rule -- waiting on her answer. No suspicions, no info yet.
bid round 15s
R1: fascist w/ Lena; Hitler=Greta. Claim lib. Said: fine w/ Boris-Rosa govt; asked Rosa to name discard on mixed hand; echoed support for full 3-card disclosure. Otto+Greta also demanded it -- don't repeat their points. No suspicions yet. Plan: Ja vote this round.
vote round 16s
I nominated Rosa and publicly endorsed her full-disclosure pledge; voting Ja is consistent. No information yet to justify a Nein, and failed elections are worse for Liberals.
R1: I'm Pres, nominated Rosa. Rosa pledged full 3-card composition + discard + enact disclosure on record (t=37). I voted Ja publicly. Otto & Greta got their commitment answered. Ines Ja. No suspicions yet. Already said: my Ja + endorsement of pledge -- don't repeat. Watch: if Fascist policy enacts under Rosa, treat her as suspect per her own pledge.
president_discard round 111s
hand: ['F', 'F', 'L'] → 0
I hold F,F,L as President. Discard one Fascist, pass F+L to Rosa. Rosa pledged full disclosure of the 3-card draw -- but she only sees my two passed cards (F,L), not my discard, so her disclosure will be of a 2-card hand; I should publicly state my own discard to keep the record honest and set the norm. Passing F,L means if a Liberal enacts, Rosa is likely liberal; if Fascist enacts, could be her choice or forced.
R1: I'm Pres, nominated Rosa, vote passed 7-0. My hand was FFL; I discarded one F, passing [F,L] to Rosa. Rosa's pledge (t=37): disclose full hand + enact. Note: she only sees the 2 cards I pass, so HER disclosure covers 2 cards -- I must state my discard myself for a complete record. Already said publicly: my Ja, endorsement of Rosa's pledge. Watch: Fascist enact under Rosa = suspect per her own words. No suspicions yet; Otto/Greta/Ines all Ja.
bid round 15s
R1, no info. Boris nominated Rosa. Rosa pledged full 3-card composition + discard disclosure (Greta/Otto demand); she has NOT yet committed on veto intent pre-vote -- I asked earlier, unanswered. My asks already on record: full composition incl discard, veto stance before vote. Next: watch Rosa's answer, then everyone's Ja/Nein votes as first data.
bid round 25s
R1: Boris+Rosa gov enacted Liberal -- both look clean so far. Rosa owes full 3-card comp (Greta/Otto demand) + my open Q on veto stance pre-vote unanswered. Next: log R1 votes as first data; compare Rosa's claimed hand vs reveal. R2: Lena pres, no nominee yet. Nothing new to say.
bid round 216s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R1: Boris+Rosa govt enacted Liberal; Rosa pledged full disclosure (t=37); Greta/Otto pressed her. Voted Ja R1. I am President now -- plan: nominate Ines (fascist ally), safe and credible. Don't push Greta for chancellor before 3 fasc policies. Points already made: judge govts on merits (t=7). No open questions pending.
bid round 25s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist, Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R1: Boris+Rosa govt enacted Liberal; Rosa pledged full disclosure (t=37), Otto/Greta pressed her. Voted Ja R1. Points already made: judge govts by merits (t=7). Now: I am President -- plan nominate Ines (ally), safe/credible. Keep Greta away from chancellorship until 3 fasc policies. No open questions pending.
speak round 27s
Rosa's disclosure matched my actual hand (FFL, discarded F, passed F+L) exactly, so no suspicion there. New president is Lena; best move is to ask her in advance who she plans to nominate and what disclosure standard she'll commit to, before she acts.
R1: I was Pres, nominated Rosa, 7-0. My hand FFL; discarded F, passed [F,L]. Rosa's claim (discarded F, enacted L) matches exactly -- clean. Otto's probe answered. R2: Lena is Pres, no nominee yet. Asked Lena: commit Chancellor to full-disclosure standard + name pick now. Awaiting her answer. Don't repeat: my Ja vote, Rosa pledge endorsement, my hand disclosure.
speak round 210s
Lena answered both my asks: Ines as pick, full-disclosure standard. Rosa's R1 claim matches my hand exactly (I discarded F, passed F,L). No new information this turn -- stay silent rather than restate.
R1: I was Pres, nominated Rosa, 7-0. My hand FFL; discarded F, passed [F,L]. Rosa's claim (discarded F, enacted L) matches my hand exactly -- clean. R2: Lena is Pres, picked Ines, committed to full three-card + discard standard before reveal. My asks to Lena: ANSWERED. Already said publicly: Rosa pledge endorsement, my Ja vote rationale. No suspects yet -- no Fascist enacted. Watch: Ines must disclose composition pre-reveal per Lena's commitment.
bid round 215s
R1 truth: Boris passed me F+L; discarded F, enacted L. Vote 7-0. Otto asked composition -> answered. Lena's R2 pick = Ines, with Rosa-standard disclosure pledge. Watch: who lands in Fas-enacting govs. Points made: accountability pledge, Fas-under-me = evidence against me. Nothing new to add.
speak round 217s
No Fascist enacted yet; Rosa's claimed hand matched my actual pass (F,L). Lena answered my pre-nomination question and picked Ines, who pre-committed to disclosure. Nothing new to press; a brief endorsement keeps me consistent without repeating myself.
R1: I was Pres, hand FFL, discarded F, passed [F,L]. Rosa's post-hoc claim (F,L) MATCHED my hand exactly -- clean, no suspicion on her. R2: Lena Pres, picked Ines; Lena answered my pre-nomination ask (yes to full disclosure standard). Ines pre-committed to composition+discard before reveal. Already said publicly: Rosa pledge endorsement, Ja rationale, ask to Lena. No open questions unanswered. No suspects yet -- 0 Fascist policies enacted. Watch: whether Ines discloses pre-reveal as pledged; Lena's discard behavior.
bid round 25s
said: Thanks, Lena -- happy to serve under the exact standard Rosa set: before any reveal, I'll state the full three-card composition of what the President hands me and exactly which card I discard, so you can all judge it on its merits.
R1: fascist w/ Lena; Hitler=Greta. Claim lib. R1 Boris-Rosa -> Liberal, good cover. Rosa answered Otto's discard question (F+L, discarded F). Lena nominated me this window; I accepted + pledged full 3-card composition & discard disclosure. Points made: fine w/ R1 result, asked discard pledge earlier.
bid round 25s
R1: Hitler (me). Voted Ja Boris/Rosa. Rosa's disclosure (F+L, discarded F) clean, matches Liberal outcome -- accept. Otto pressed same point. R2: Lena pres, Ines chanc. Nothing new to add; stay quiet. If nominated chancellor later, vote Ja -- early credibility matters for my win path (need 3F enacted first). Don't over-defend fascists.
vote round 29s
Round 1 was clean: Rosa's disclosed hand matched what I actually passed. Ines has pre-committed to full pre-reveal disclosure, same standard Rosa set. No Fascist policies enacted, no suspicious voting patterns (unanimous Ja votes). A Nein here has no concrete basis and risks the election tracker. Vote Ja.
R1: I was Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa, she claimed exactly that -- clean. R2: Lena Pres, nominated Ines; both committed to pre-reveal full composition+discard standard. Otto confirmed my R1 claim publicly. No suspects yet, 0 F policies, unanimous votes so far. Watch: does Ines disclose pre-reveal as pledged? What composition does Lena pass? Points already made: asked Lena re disclosure standard + pick (answered), endorsed Rosa pledge, confirmed my R1 hand. No open questions owed to me.
bid round 28s
R1: Boris+Rosa enacted Liberal -- both clean. Rosa full comp (F+L, discarded F), consistent. R2: Lena pres, nominee Ines, pledged Rosa-standard pre-reveal disclosure; Otto on record Ja if pledge kept. Nothing new to add. Watch: Ines gov card claim vs deck odds (14 draw/2 discard). No open questions owed to me.
speak round 216s
Fascist enacted under Lena/Ines who both pledged pre-reveal full disclosure. Rosa already pressed them. My unique angle: point out that if either reconstructs or dodges, the pledge itself becomes the evidence -- and note that a 3-card draw yielding F+F means Lena discarded a Liberal; L+L+F means Ines discarded a Liberal. Wait for their claims before narrowing.
R1: I was Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; her claim matched, Otto confirmed -- clean govt. R2: Lena Pres + Ines Chan, both pledged pre-reveal full composition BEFORE vote; Fascist enacted anyway. Rosa already demanded their hands (t=8). My ask: hold them to the pledge -- post-hoc reconstruction = broken pledge = evidence. Once they answer: if draw was F+F+x, Lena discarded Liberal (suspicious); if L+L+F, Ines discarded Liberal (suspicious); if F+L+x with F enacted, discard was Liberal from Ines -- worst case. Points already made: asked Lena re standard+pick (answered), confirmed my R1 hand, endorsed pledges. Owed to me: Lena's 3-card draw + Ines's discard.
bid round 222s
The pledge was pre-reveal disclosure; Rosa, Boris, and Otto have all demanded it already, but adding my own direct question keeps pressure on both government members and lets me compare their claims for consistency. Low urgency -- the floor demands are covered; I just add mine briefly.
R1: Boris+Rosa clean (Liberal). R2: Lena pres, Ines ch -> Fascist enacted. Ines pledged full comp pre-reveal; Otto pledged Ja contingent on it. I voted Ja R2. Publicly asked: Lena's exact 3 + discard, Ines's exact 2 + discard. Points made publicly: that demand. No answers owed to me yet. Suspects: none confirmed; watching whether Ines/Lena hands match.
bid round 216s
R1: Boris+Rosa clean (Liberal). R2: Lena pres, Ines ch -> Fascist enacted. Ines pledged full comp pre-reveal; Otto pledged Ja on that pledge and says it was broken. I voted Ja R2. Demands: Lena's 3 cards + discard; Ines's 2 + discard; hands must match. Points made: none yet publicly. No answers owed to me yet.
bid round 225s
R1: Hitler(me). Ja Boris/Rosa. Rosa disclosed F+L, disc L -> Liberal enact, clean. R2: Lena pres/Ines chanc, F enacted. Lena claims F,F,L drew, disc L, passed 2F; Ines confirms. Accounts consistent, unfalsifiable -- both stay suspects but no catch. I already: got Rosa's full comp, pressed Ines on pledge. Said now: accounts consistent, no contradiction; pivot to next gov. Don't over-defend. Plan: quiet-trustworthy liberal; once 3F push own chancellorship w/ Ja votes; keep record clean. Open Qs: none owed to me yet.
bid round 223s
R1: Hitler(me). Ja Boris/Rosa. Rosa F+L post-press -> Lib enact, Boris confirmed. R2: Lena pres/Ines chanc, F enacted. Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F; Ines confirms; I publicly said accounts match, no contradiction, judge next gov on pre-reveal disclosure. Nadia dropped it, watching Lena. Already said: full 3-card comp standard. Plan: quiet liberal, push own chancellorship once 3F. Owed answers: none.
speak round 214s
R2 Fascist under Lena/Ines govt; their matched F,F,L story is unverifiable but consistent. I've already demanded disclosure and flagged the broken pre-reveal pledge. New angle: get Lena to name her next Chancellor pick in advance and commit to the discard-pledge publicly, so R3 gives a testable record. Also endorse Rosa's standing pledge.
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claim F,F,L drawn, L discarded, F+F passed -- consistent but unverifiable; Greta corroborated, Nadia dropped it. Points already made out loud: demanded pre-reveal disclosure, flagged broken pledge, confirmed R1 hand. NEW this turn: endorsed Rosa's standing discard-pledge; asked Lena to name next Chancellor pick NOW; asked Ines the hypothetical (one of each -> discard F?). Owed answers: Ines (hypothetical), Lena (next pick). Watch R3: who Lena nominates/votes. Suspects: Lena+Ines moderate (matched unverifiable story); Otto/Nadia/Greta unremarkable.
bid round 29s
R1 truth: Boris(P)-me(C), F+L drawn, discarded F, enacted L (disclosed late). R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L / Lena discarded L / forced enact; matched story = circular corroboration, proves nothing. Points already public: broken pledges=evidence; corroboration proves nothing; standing pledge ask (Chancellor holding 1F+1L discards F, states pre-reveal) extended to Lena too; pressed Greta on unprompted vouching -- Greta + Ines + Lena all owe answers, none received yet. Suspects: Ines > Lena (discard unverifiable); soft flag Greta. Clean: Boris, me. Watch Otto/Nadia as pressers. Next: if pledge refused, treat refusal as signal; push for pre-reveal commitments from future govs.
bid round 219s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claim F,F,L drawn, L discarded, F+F passed -- consistent but unverifiable; Greta corroborated. Points already made out loud: demanded pre-reveal disclosure, flagged broken pledge, confirmed R1 hand, asked Lena to name next Chancellor pick NOW, asked Ines hypothetical (one of each -> discard F?). NEW this turn: pressed Lena+Ines again for owed answers; noted Otto attacking Greta's vouch -- Greta's vouch was pre-accusation but unverifiable either way, watch whether Otto pivots off Lena/Ines. Owed answers: Ines (hypothetical), Lena (next pick). Watch R3: who Lena nominates/votes. Suspects: Lena+Ines moderate; Otto/Nadia/Greta unremarkable.
bid failed: transport_error
bid round 222s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 me Pres+Ines Ch: public story F,F,L drew, discarded L, passed F,F (matches Ines). Pledged split-hand Fascist-discard rule on record. R1 Boris+Rosa Liberal enact. Otto attacked Greta for 'vouching'; I defended her t=2, Greta clarified herself. Ines accepted Rosa's split-hand pledge. Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Nadia, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta out of chancellor until 3F enacted. If F/F/L story relitigated: point to Nadia dropping it rather than repeat hand verbatim. Deflection target: Otto. Already said: defense of Greta re vouching (t=2) -- don't repeat.
bid failed: timeout
bid round 211s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover story F,L/F/F forced enact, corroborated by Greta publicly. Points already made: pre-reveal pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, Otto/Nadia pressing evidence-free, defense of Greta's vouch, accepted Rosa's discard pledge. NEW this window: told Rosa matched stories are weak evidence (small deck forces overlap), pivoted mild suspicion onto Boris/Rosa R1 govt. Rosa still suspects matched stories -- keep distance from Lena next rounds. Watch Nadia re: Lena scrutiny. Next goals: Greta chancellorship once 3F+, push Fs quietly, occasional Lib for cover.
bid round 28s
R1: Boris/Rosa -> 1L. R2: Lena/Ines -> F. Both claim F,L,F, stories match, unfalsifiable. Points already made: Boris ack; conditional Ja on Ines; matching-stories demand; Rosa discard-F pledge; pressed Greta. Watchlist: Lena, Ines (R2 F gov). Open: none unanswered. Next: pre-act pledges -- if Lena draws peek power, name target in advance and reveal publicly; ask Ines same for chancellor discard. Don't repeat matching-stories point.
bid round 310s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claim F,F,L drawn, L discarded -- consistent, unverifiable. Points made out loud: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, asked Ines one-of-each hypothetical, endorsed pledge, pressed Lena for next pick + no-repeat commitment. Owed answers: Lena (next pick). If Lena/Ines produce 2nd Fascist policy together -> both near-certain fascists. Suspects: Lena+Ines moderate-high; Otto unremarkable; watch Otto's pivot target. NEW this turn: asked Rosa to commit on record -- no Lena/Ines in her R3 govt, and Nadia must accept the pre-reveal pledge before nomination is official.
bid round 319s
R1 truth: Boris(P)-me(C), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L (disclosed late). R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L, Lena discarded L. KEY CATCH (public): Presidents choose discard -- Lena could've passed F+L; 'deck decided' false. OPEN Qs owed me: Lena (card order + president-choice contradiction, asked twice); Greta (why vouch unprompted, asked twice); Ines (asked Lena for a choice? asked t=6 R3); Nadia (pledge yes/no, asked t=3 R3). Already public: corroboration proves nothing; broken pledges=evidence; discard-pledge accepted by Lena & Ines. Suspects: Lena > Ines > Greta. Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. R3: I'm President, nominating NADIA; awaiting her pledge answer before making it official.
speak round 3119s
Ines's 'I asked Lena for a split' story surfaced only in Round 3 under pressure, after the enact — it's unverifiable (only she and Lena were in that exchange) and conveniently moves all blame onto Lena. I'll flag that as a retroactive reconstruction, which is exactly what she pledged against. Otherwise Rosa/Nadia government looks acceptable to me.
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claim F,F,L drawn, L discarded. NEW R3: Ines claims she asked Lena for a split pre-pass -- surfaced only under pressure, unverifiable, retroactive = evidence against Ines too, not just Lena. If true, Lena refused split -> Lena suspect high. Points already made out loud: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, endorsed discard-pledge, pressed Lena for next pick, asked Rosa commitment re: no Lena/Ines govt + Nadia pledge. Owed answers: Lena (why she declined split / next pick), Rosa (Otto's Greta question). Vote plan: Ja on Rosa/Nadia. Watch: Otto's pivot target; Greta's unfalsifiable framing was neutral. If Lena+Ines produce 2nd Fascist together -> both near-certain fascists.
speak round 312s
New development: Ines claims she asked Lena for a split pre-pass; Lena claims Ines never asked. Direct contradiction between the two R2 government members -- one of them is lying. This is checkable only by them, but the contradiction itself is evidence against both. I should name it explicitly since nobody else has framed it as a mutual contradiction yet.
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claimed F,F,L drawn, L discarded. NEW R3 CONTRADICTION: Ines says she asked Lena pre-pass for a split; Lena says Ines never asked. One of them lying on record -> both top suspects until resolved. If true, Lena refused split = Lena suspect high. Points already made out loud: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, endorsed discard-pledge, pressed Lena for next pick, called Ines's split story retroactive reconstruction, pledged Ja to Nadia. Owed answers: Rosa (Otto's Greta question). Vote plan: Ja on Rosa/Nadia. Watch: Otto's pivot target; Greta's framing was neutral. If Lena+Ines produce 2nd Fascist together -> both near-certain fascists.
bid round 313s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa -> Lib. R2 Lena/Ines -> F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F; Ines confirms. Otto+Nadia pressed, Nadia dropped it. Rosa's discard-F pledge accepted by Lena on record. Otto challenged my 'vouch' -- answered: I flagged matched-story risk myself, not a clean bill. Already said: consistency note + unfalsifiable caveat + that answer -- don't repeat. Rosa nominating Nadia w/ pledge. Suspects: none solid; watch Lena next gov (Nadia watching too). Plan: stay liberal-seeming, seek chancellorship once 3F enacted. Nothing new this window -- silent.
bid round 331s
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claimed F,F,L drawn, L discarded. CONTRADICTION on record: Ines says she asked Lena pre-pass for split; Lena says never happened. One lying -> both top suspects. If true, Lena refused split = Lena high. Points already made out loud: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, discard-pledge endorsement, pressed Lena for next pick, called Ines's story retroactive, pledged Ja to Nadia. NEW this turn: asked Rosa+Nadia to commit BEFORE vote (Rosa's next pick if elected, Nadia's enact pledge). Owed answers: Rosa (Otto's Greta question). Vote plan: Ja on Rosa/Nadia. Watch: Otto's pivot target; Greta neutral framing. If Lena+Ines produce 2nd Fascist together -> both near-certain fascists.
bid round 37s
said: Boris, you want a contradiction test? Here it is: before Lena passed those two cards she told this table 'I'm passing what I was given' -- no consultation, no discussion. If I'd truly asked and been refused, why would she volunteer that phrasing? Either she's rewriting history now to look decisive, or she's covering that she never gave me the chance. I stand by my account: I asked for a split, she shut it down. That's on record from round two, not invented tonight.
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt 7-0, F enacted; cover: F,F/L/F forced enact, corroborated by Greta. LIE on record: asked Lena for split/F-discard pre-pass, she refused -- blame on Lena. PROBLEM: Lena now denies request happened; Boris calling direct contradiction, top-suspect framing. Must hold lie confidently, not fold. Points made already: pledge rationale, disclosure standard, corroboration limits, Greta defense, discard pledge, matched-stories weak, deflected Rosa Greta-vouch Q. OPEN: Rosa owes Otto/me answer re Greta vouch-adjacent. NOW: defend split-request story vs Lena/Boris; frame Lena as either lying or covering her own call. Goals: keep pledge credibility, distance from Lena, push Greta chancellorship at 3F+, occasional Lib enact for cover. Watch Nadia/Otto scrutiny.
bid round 39s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa -> Lib. R2 Lena/Ines -> F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F; Ines confirms. Otto+Nadia pressed, Nadia dropped it. Rosa's discard-F pledge accepted by Lena on record. Otto challenged my 'vouch' -- answered: I flagged matched-story risk myself. Already said: consistency note + unfalsifiable caveat + that answer -- don't repeat. Now: Lena dodging position question (Rosa pressing); Lena vs Ines contradiction over Ines's 'asked for split' story (Boris flagged). Rosa nominating Nadia w/ pledge. Suspects: none solid; watch Lena next gov. Plan: stay liberal-seeming, seek chancellorship once 3F enacted. Nothing new this window -- silent.
bid round 38s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; both claim F,F,L matching, unfalsifiable. R3: Ines claims split-request late under pressure, Lena denies; MY CALL OUT LOUD: Ines lying. Made out loud: pressed Rosa R1 hand (Boris confirmed 1F/1L); called Greta re vouching (unanswered); named Ines liar; demanded Nadia full-composition pre-reveal commit; stated Ja on Rosa/Nadia contingent on pre-reveal disclosure. Open debts: Greta owes basis for blessing hand; Rosa owes why she defended Greta early; Nadia owes full-composition commit + card-position style answers. Watchlist: Ines top, Lena second (refused split per Ines claim). Leaning Ja unless Nadia reconstructs post-reveal.
vote round 312s
Rosa/Nadia government: Nadia accepted the full pre-reveal pledge unprompted, Rosa committed to publishing her draw/pass. No concrete reason to Nein; tracker at 0/3 so a failed vote is cheap but pointless here. Ja.
R1: I Pres, passed [F,L] to Rosa; matched, clean. R2: Lena/Ines govt, Fascist enacted; both claimed F,F,L, L discarded. CONTRADICTION: Ines claims she asked Lena for split pre-pass (R3); Lena denies it happened. One lying -> both top suspects. Otto sides with Lena vs Ines. Lena finally answered card position: Liberal 3rd. Said out loud already: pre-reveal disclosure demand, broken-pledge flag, R1 hand confirm, discard-pledge endorsement, called Ines's story retroactive reconstruction, pledged Ja to Nadia, flagged contradiction publicly. Owed answers: Nadia full composition pre-reveal pledge (Otto/Rosa pressing), Rosa owes Otto re Greta vouch question. Vote: Ja on Rosa/Nadia. Watch: does Nadia state full draw/discard BEFORE reveal? If not -> joins suspect list. If Lena+Ines produce another Fascist together -> both near-certain fascists.
bid round 310s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean (Lib). R2: Lena claims F,L,F disc L passed 2F; Ines says she ASKED for split pre-pass, Lena denies -> direct contradiction; both top suspects. Lena dodged Rosa's card-position question 3x. Ines deflecting to 'judge Nadia's enact' instead of resolving R2. Otto demanded full 3-card composition + discard stated PRE-reveal from me as nominee -> I accepted/extended pledge this window: whatever I draw, full composition + discard before reveal. Already said publicly: R2 contradiction point, original one-of-each pledge. If elected under Rosa: honor full pledge.
bid round 36s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 locked story: F,F,L drawn, Liberal discarded (third slot), passed F,F -- matches Ines; card-position Q answered t=108, do not reopen. Lena/Ines split-request contradiction live: I deny request happened, Otto+Boris side with me, Ines claims she asked. Deflection target: Otto (conditional pledges = pressure theater). Voting Ja on Rosa-Nadia; Nadia pledged full composition pre-reveal. Already said Ja rationale twice this window -- stay silent now, no new points. Next round as Pres: nominate Otto or Boris, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta from chancellery until 3F enacted. Open Qs owed me: none.
bid round 38s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean (Lib). R2: Lena claims F,F,L disc L passed 2F; Ines says she ASKED for split pre-pass, Lena denies -> direct contradiction, both top suspects. Lena dodged card-position Q 3x then said Lib was 3rd position. R3: I received F,L from Rosa, discarded F, enacted L per my pre-reveal pledge. Now need Rosa to publish her 3-card draw + discard; if it doesn't contain F,L she's lying. Owed answers: Rosa owes her draw composition. Points already made publicly: R2 contradiction, pledges, Lena forced-enact question.
bid round 331s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F (Lib pos 3); Ines claims she asked split pre-pass, Lena denies -> live contradiction; Otto+Boris lean anti-Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F pass 1each; Nadia pledged+delivered, cleared by Rosa. Suspects: none solid; Lena/Ines contradiction unresolved. Said: matched-stories-not-evidence (t47), not-a-vouch x2 (t107,t23), endorsed Nadia pledge+Ja (t103), probed Otto re never-in-govt+Chancellor nom (t30) -- NO ANSWER YET from Otto. Flagged peek-power transparency standard for next Fascist enact (t3). Plan: stay liberal-seeming, seek chancellorship once 3F enacted. Watch: Otto's answer to me; Nadia's next pick.
bid round 391s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L pass 2F; Ines claims split-request pre-pass, Lena denies -> live contradiction; Otto+Boris lean anti-Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F pass 1each; Nadia pledged+delivered, cleared. Otto ANSWERED me: accepts Chancellor nom next round w/ full pre-reveal disclosure (t2). Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence (t47), not-a-vouch x2, endorsed Nadia pledge (t103), probed Otto re never-in-govt (t30). Plan: stay liberal-seeming, seek chancellorship once 3F enacted. Watch: Nadia's next pick; Lena/Ines contradiction resolution.
bid round 39s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 locked story: F,F,L, Lib 3rd pos, discarded Lib, passed F,F; matches Ines; do not reopen. Split-request contradiction live: I deny request; Otto+Boris side with me; Ines claims she asked (t=26 R3). Rosa-Nadia clean -- accepted. This window: pressed Nadia to pick side on contradiction (t=3) -- she owes me answer. Otto pledged chancellor pre-reveal if nominated next round; treat as theater, deflection target. Ines asked Nadia what evidence settles contradiction -- let Nadia respond first before I re-engage. Next round if Pres: nominate Otto or Boris, NOT Ines/Greta; keep Greta from chancellery until 3F. Watch: peek-disclosure standard talk (Otto t=2). Open Qs owed me: Nadia's pick on contradiction.
speak round 327s
Nadia's 'pattern not timing' answer was vague-ish but her core point stands independently of Ines's unverifiable claim: a liberal President holding F,F,L should discard a Fascist and give the Chancellor a choice; Lena chose to force the enact. That indicts Lena on its own, no split-request story needed. I'll state that explicitly since it separates the checkable choice from the he-said-she-said.
R1: me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2: Lena/Ines Fascist enacted; Lena claims F,F,L, discarded L, forced Ines. KEY CHECKABLE POINT: liberal Pres with F,F,L discards F -> Lena's forced pass suspicious on its own, independent of Ines story. Ines/Lena contradiction (split request) unfalsifiable -> deprioritize it. Nadia sided w/ Ines citing 'pattern not timing'. Otto backs Lena; Greta neutral, pledged full pre-reveal disclosure; Otto pledged same + will take nomination. R3 Rosa/Nadia Liberal enacted, clean. Said publicly: called Ines story retroactive reconstruction, flagged contradiction, asked Nadia to pick side (answered), pledged Ja to Nadia. NEW now: Lena top suspect via her own pass choice. Watch: next F policy unlocks peek -> demand named target pre-use. If Lena in govt again and F lands -> near-certain fascist.
speak round 322s
Nadia just publicly sided with Ines citing the pattern argument, which matches my own checkable point about Lena's forced pass. Nothing new to press this turn; Nadia's enact cleared her, and the table is converging on Lena as top suspect. Best move: brief endorsement of Nadia-as-President/Otto-nominee plan to keep momentum, or stay quiet. A short line supporting Nadia's read adds signal without repeating myself verbatim.
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist enacted; Lena claims F,F,L, discarded L, FORCED Ines -> liberal Pres discards F there; Lena top suspect on her own pass choice, independent of Ines story. Ines/Lena split-request contradiction unfalsifiable -> deprioritize. Nadia publicly sided w/ Ines ('pattern not timing'); Otto backs Lena, called Ines liar unprompted (Greta flagged his eagerness). R3 Rosa/Nadia Liberal enacted clean; Rosa disclosed F,F,L pre-reveal, passed 1-1; Nadia kept pledge. Said already: called Ines story retroactive reconstruction; flagged Lena/Ines contradiction; asked Nadia pick side (answered); pledged Ja to Nadia; stated checkable point re Lena's pass. NEW: endorsed Nadia-for-President + Otto nominee. Watch: next F policy unlocks peek -> demand named target+result pre-use. If Lena in govt again and F lands -> near-certain fascist.
bid round 37s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; disclosed POST-enact (timing pledge broken). Nadia enacted L => CLEAN-ish, said so publicly. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L, Lena discarded L late. LIVE: Ines claims pre-pass split request, Lena denies -> one lying; Otto+Boris side with Ines. Suspects: Ines > Greta > Lena(lower). Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. OWED ME: Greta vouch rationale (asked 4x, silent). Nadia now pledged: if President, nominates Otto -- HOLD HER TO IT. Points already public: corroboration proves nothing; presidents choose which two to pass; matched stories=coordinated fascists; my Ja on Rosa-Nadia; my R3 disclosure published; Greta's silence damaging; endorsed Otto pre-reveal standard; told Nadia weigh R2 by outcomes not stories.
bid round 37s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; both claim F,F,L; Lena admits forcing Ines with two F's. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L, pre-reveal disclosure, clean. MY CALLS OUT LOUD: Ines lying re split-request contradiction; pressed Greta on vouch rationale (she denies vouching); committed Ja contingent on disclosure; pledged Chancellor nom w/ full pre-reveal draw disclosure; pushed pre-announcement of peek target before Fascist policy 2 unlocks. Accepted Nadia's intent to nominate me next round -- pledge restated. Open debts: Rosa owes why she defended Greta early (Ines also asked). Watchlist: Ines top, Lena second (forced F enact + late card-position answer). Greta's 'Otto sat out every gov' = weak, rotation/term limits.
bid round 37s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena claims F,F,L disc L passed 2F; Ines says asked pre-pass for split, Lena denies -> contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x then said Lib 3rd. I publicly sided with Ines (t=57 R3) -- DONE, don't repeat. R3: I drew F,L from Rosa, discarded F per pledge; Rosa disclosed F,F,L pre-reveal, clean. Suspects: Lena top (forced enact + dodge pattern); Ines/Lena contradiction unresolved. Greta answered t=1: accepted nom + full pre-reveal draw pledge. Otto pledged nom + full pre-reveal disclosure. COMMITMENTS MADE PUBLICLY: if President next, nominate Otto; peek-power holder must pre-state target pre-reveal. Next Fascist policy unlocks membership peek.
bid round 312s
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L, discarded L, FORCED Ines -> liberal Pres discards F; Lena top suspect on pass choice alone. Split-request dispute unfalsifiable -> deprioritize. Nadia sided w/ Ines; Otto backs Lena unprompted (Greta flagged eagerness). R3 Rosa/Nadia Liberal clean, Rosa disclosed F,F/L pre-reveal. Already said: Ines story retroactive; Lena/Ines contradiction; Nadia pick-side (answered); pledged Ja to Nadia; checkable point re Lena's forced pass; endorsed Nadia-for-Pres + Otto nominee. Watch: next F policy unlocks peek -> demand named target+result pre-use. If Lena in govt again and F lands -> near-certain fascist.
bid round 49s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; disclosed POST-enact (timing pledge broken). Nadia enacted L => CLEAN-ish, said so publicly. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L. LIVE: Ines claims pre-pass split request, Lena denies -> one lying; Boris+Otto side with Ines. Suspects: Ines > Greta > Lena(lower). Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. Greta: non-answer vouch rationale, pledged full pre-reveal standard if nominated. Nadia pledged: if President, nominates Otto -- HOLD HER TO IT (locked on record t=1). Points already public: corroboration proves nothing; presidents choose which two to pass; matched stories=coordinated fascists possible; my Ja votes; my R3 disclosure published; endorsed Otto pre-reveal standard. Asked Lena directly: would she pass F+F again, yes/no -- UNANSWERED.
speak round 413s
Rosa is pressing Ines for a President-side pledge (discard any Fascist, full composition pre-reveal). I should add my voice to that demand before the nomination finalizes -- it's a new, concrete ask, not a repeat. Keep it short.
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L, FORCED Ines -> liberal Pres discards F; Lena top suspect on pass choice alone. Nadia sided w/ Ines; Otto backs Lena unprompted (Greta flagged eagerness). R3 Rosa/Nadia Liberal clean, Rosa disclosed F,F/L pre-reveal. Said already: Ines story retroactive; Lena/Ines contradiction unfalsifiable but checkable forced-pass point made; pledged Ja to Nadia; endorsed Otto nominee; Nadia pick-side answered. NEW this window: added my voice demanding Ines take President pledge (discard any F, state full composition pre-reveal) before finalizing Otto nomination. Watch: next F unlocks peek -> demand named target+result pre-use. If Lena in govt again and F lands -> near-certain fascist. Greta/Otto both pledged full disclosure if nominated.
bid round 46s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2: Lena-P3 govt F enacted; cover = forced F,F/L + LIE split-request vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R3: Rosa-Nadia Lib, Rosa disclosed F,F/L consistent. R4: President, nominated Otto (t=5), full-disclosure pledge. Asked Rosa re early Greta defense 3x (t=3 latest), no answer -- if still silent, finalize Otto nomination and move Rosa's silence into the record as a data point. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek pre-reveal standard, Nadia nominability Q. If pressed on R2 hand: stick to F,F/L forced + split-request lie. Greta: keep out of chancellor seat until 3F.
bid round 413s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admits F,F/L pass, forced Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean, Nadia cleared. MY CALLS: Ines lying re split-request (t=83); Greta vouch question answered (denies); pledged Chancellor nom w/ full pre-reveal disclosure; pushed pre-announce of peek target. Told Lena no-request defense irrelevant. NOW: nominated as Chancellor by Ines; supporting Rosa's demand that Ines pledge discard-any-F + full composition pre-reveal. OPEN DEBTS: Rosa never answered why she defended Greta early (Ines asked 3x). Watchlist: Lena top (forced F pass), Ines second. Next F policy unlocks peek -- holder should announce target pre-use.
speak round 415s
Ines finally stated the President pledge after repeated pressure; Otto committed to full pre-reveal disclosure and to refusing a silent two-Fascist enact. Both answers are on record. Nothing new to add that isn't repetition -- I'll pass this turn and save my floor for the enact.
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L; liberal Pres discards F -> Lena top suspect. Nadia believes Ines; Otto backs Lena unprompted. R3 Rosa/Nadia Liberal clean, Rosa disclosed pre-reveal. R4: Ines(Pres)+Otto(Chanc) nominated; Ines pledged full comp + discard any F (only after 4 asks); Otto pledged full pre-reveal disclosure + won't silently enact 2 Fs from unpledged Pres. Said already: Ines story retroactive; forced-pass checkable; endorsed Otto nominee; demanded Ines pledge. Watch: next F unlocks peek -> demand named target+result pre-use. If F lands from Ines/Otto govt, both suspect; Otto's early Lena defense becomes relevant.
bid round 47s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena claims F,F,L, passed 2F (forced); Ines says asked pre-pass for split, Lena denies -> contradiction; Lena dodged card-position Q 3x then said Lib 3rd. I publicly sided with Ines. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L pre-reveal, passed me F,L; I discarded F, Liberal enacted, cleared. Suspects: Lena top. Greta pledged, Otto pledged. COMMITMENTS: if President, nominate Otto; peek-power holder must pre-state target pre-reveal; answered Ines: Lena nominable only under full pledge. NOW: Ines pres + Otto nom pending; already demanded pledge on Ines re R2. Nothing new to add this turn.
bid round 46s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; disclosed POST-enact. Nadia enacted L => clean-ish. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L; LIVE: Ines claims pre-pass split request, Lena denies -> one lying; Boris+Otto+Nadia believe Ines. Suspects: Ines > Greta > Lena(lower). Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. R4: Ines(P) nominating Otto(C); answered her Greta Q. OPEN: Ines owes YES/NO on President discard-pledge + full composition pre-reveal -- asked twice, this is final framing as vote condition; if she dodges again, treat as red flag and say so ONCE, then drop it. Lena still owes: would she pass F+F again yes/no. Already public: corroboration proves nothing; presidents choose which two to pass; matched stories=possible coordination; endorse Otto standard; my Ja votes; my R3 disclosure published; Greta answer given.
vote round 48s
Ines has pledged full pre-reveal composition and Fascist discard; Otto pledged the same and committed to refusing a silent two-Fascist pass. Both pledges are on record, tracker is 0/3 so a Nein risks an auto-enacted policy. Otto's enact under full disclosure is pure signal either way. Vote Ja.
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L; liberal Pres discards F -> Lena top suspect. Nadia believes Ines; Otto backed Lena unprompted. R3 Rosa/Nadia Liberal clean. R4: Ines(Pres)+Otto(Chanc); both pledges on record (Ines full comp+discard F post-pass; Otto pre-reveal disclosure). Said already: Ines pledge retroactive; endorsed Otto; demanded Ines pledge. Plan: vote Ja. Watch: next F unlocks peek -> demand named target+result pre-use. If F lands from Ines/Otto govt, both suspect; Otto's early Lena defense becomes relevant.
bid round 48s
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L; liberal Pres discards F -> Lena top suspect. Nadia believes Ines; Otto backed Lena unprompted. R3 Rosa/Nadia Liberal clean, Rosa disclosed pre-reveal. R4: Ines(Pres)+Otto(Chanc); Ines pledged full comp + discard any F (only after 4 asks -> retroactive); Otto pledged full pre-reveal disclosure + won't silently enact 2 Fs from unpledged Pres. Said already: Ines story retroactive; endorsed Otto nominee; demanded Ines pledge. Both pledges now on record -- vote Ja. Watch: next F unlocks peek -> demand named target+result pre-use. If F lands from Ines/Otto govt, both suspect; Otto's early Lena defense becomes relevant.
bid round 412s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; disclosed POST-enact. Nadia enacted L => clean-ish. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L; one lying. Suspects: Ines > Greta > Lena(lower). Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. R4: Ines(P) nominated Otto(C). My two conditions met (Ines pledge on record 4x incl t=2; Otto pre-reveal composition + hold enact on two-Fascist pass from unpledged Ines) => stated Ja publicly this turn. Lena still owes: would she pass F+F again yes/no. Already public: corroboration proves nothing; matched stories=possible coordination; endorse Otto standard; my R3 disclosure published; Greta vouch answer received (claims never blessed hand).
bid round 49s
Me=Hitler(fascist). R1 Boris/Rosa->Lib. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L disc L; Ines split-request claim vs Lena denial = live contradiction; Otto+Boris anti-Ines, Nadia believes Ines. R3 Rosa/Nadia->Lib; Rosa disclosed F,F,L disc F. R4: Ines pres, nom Otto w/ pre-reveal disclosure pledge; Rosa demanding Ines pledge discard-any-F + composition reveal; Otto t3: will state composition pre-reveal if passed 2F, Ja stands regardless; Ines t2: pledged full composition pre-reveal + discard any F. Said already: matched-stories-not-evidence, not-a-vouch x3, endorsed Nadia pledge, probed Otto never-in-govt, peek-disclosure standard, endorsed Nadia->Otto, my own Chancellor pledge under full draw disclosure, Boris F,F,L logic sound but one forced pass isn't conviction. Plan: stay liberal-seeming, accept noms under pledge; win path = elected Chancellor once 3F enacted. Watch: whether Ines/Otto honor pledges post-vote, Lena/Ines contradiction resolution, who holds peek after next F policy.
speak round 415s
Rosa just asked Greta the exact question I already put to her (split-request side + Lena government), so repeating it adds nothing. New angle nobody has pressed: Otto publicly sided with Lena against Ines in Round 3 before any evidence, and his clean R4 enact doesn't explain why he defended the table's top suspect unprompted. Worth one direct question.
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L -> top suspect; Otto defended Lena unprompted R3 -- now asked him WHY directly. R3 Rosa/Nadia Liberal clean. R4 Ines/Otto Liberal clean. Said already: Lena's forced pass from F,F,L is checkable guilt; endorsed Otto nom; demanded Ines pledge (she gave it); asked Greta split-request side + would she refuse Lena govt (Rosa re-asked, unanswered). Nadia answered both: believes Ines, Lena nominable only under pledge. Next F unlocks peek: demand named target+result pre-use. Greta president next, pledged to nominate Nadia.
bid round 414s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admitted F,F/L forced pass (top suspect). R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean. MY CALLS: Ines lying re split-request (t=83); pledged full pre-reveal Chancellor disclosure; pushed pre-announce of peek target. R4: elected Chancellor under Ines; disclosed hand F,L pre-reveal, discarded F, enacted L (3L/1F now). Ines's disclosure matched pledge -- partially cleared but split-request lie stands. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd. Next F policy unlocks peek -- holder must announce target pre-use. Just said on record: refuse to sit with Lena as Chancellor; everyone else nominable pending peek results. Points already made: composition pre-reveal demand, no-request defense irrelevant to Lena, conditional answer t=25, R4 hand disclosure. Don't repeat.
speak round 417s
Otto directly asked me which side of the split-request dispute I'm on. Answer directly: the request itself is unfalsifiable either way, but the checkable fact is Lena's forced two-Fascist pass from F,F,L -- that makes Lena my top suspect regardless of who lied about the request. Also note Otto STILL hasn't answered why he confidently called Ines a liar in R3 before any evidence existed; that dodge is itself signal. Keep it short.
R1 me+Rosa clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines F enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L -> TOP SUSPECT (checkable: forced pass). Otto defended Lena unprompted R3, declared Ines liar with zero evidence -- asked twice (me t=47, Lena t=54), OTTO NEVER ANSWERED, only deflected to 'timing'. Nadia flagged me+Lena asking in sync as suspicious pairing; treat as independent convergence, don't back down. R3 Rosa/Nadia Liberal clean. R4 Ines/Otto Liberal clean. Said out loud: Lena's forced pass = guilt; endorsed Otto nom; demanded Ines pledge (given); answered Otto's question: believe Ines secondarily, judge on checkable fact, Lena top suspect. Greta president next, pledged nominate Nadia + full disclosure pledge. Next F unlocks peek: demand named target+result pre-use. Open: Greta never gave her side of split-request dispute or whether she'd refuse a Lena govt (Rosa re-asked, unanswered).
bid round 410s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; disclosed POST-enact. Nadia enacted L => clean-ish. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L; one lying. Suspects: Ines > Greta > Lena(lower). Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. R4: Ines(P)+Otto(C) enacted L, Otto met pledge, voted Ja. Ines 4x pledge on record. Just said publicly: my refusal list = Lena until she answers F+F yes/no; Otto/Nadia/Boris acceptable. Already public: corroboration proves nothing; matched stories=coordination possible; my R3 disclosure published; Greta vouch answered; my Greta defense answered. Owed: Lena's F+F answer (asked twice); Greta's pre-nomination pledge answer to Ines. Next: watch Ines's next nomination if re-elected; if peek power hits, demand pre-reveal disclosure.
bid round 468s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 story locked (F,F,L; Lib 3rd discarded Lib, passed F,F) -- do NOT reopen. R3 Rosa-Nadia clean Lib, R4 Ines-Otto clean Lib, both endorsed. Nadia hostile: believes Ines over me, called me top suspect, now flagged my Boris question-sync as suspicious -- deflected by noting identical questions from two liberals is normal scrutiny, and pointed at her own pattern of shielding Otto/Ines. Greta presidency next, pledged: nominate Nadia, stay out of chancellery, full pre-reveal draw pledge. Keep Greta out of Chancellor seat until 3F. Next F policy unlocks peek -- holder claims liberal result. Points made: card-position t=108, Greta vouch t=114, Rosa-Nadia clean t=107/114, pressed Otto on R3 'Ines liar' call (Boris raised first). No open Qs owed me.
bid round 445s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; disclosed POST-enact. Nadia enacted L => clean-ish. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L; one lying. Suspects: Ines > Greta > Lena(lower). Clean-ish: Boris, Otto, Nadia. R4: Ines(P)+Otto(C) enacted L; Otto met pledge; Ines pledged 4x. NEW t=3: Nadia flagged Boris+Lena asking Otto identical question in same breath -- I echoed this publicly, watch if they coordinate again. Greta = next President, committed: full pre-reveal pledge + nominating Nadia + staying out of C seat. STILL OWED by Greta: who she believes in Lena/Ines dispute + would she refuse a Lena government. Owed by Lena: F+F card-position yes/no (asked twice). Already public: my R3 disclosure; corroboration proves nothing; Greta vouch answered; my Greta defense answered; Boris/Lena sync point made. Next: if peek power hits, demand pre-reveal target+result; watch Greta's actual nomination vs stated plan.
bid round 427s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 split-request lie vs Lena denial -> Boris/Otto call me liar; Nadia believes me. R4: me Pres+Otto chan 7-0, disclosed F,F/L->passed F+L, Otto enacted L -- mutual cover. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek -- if in govt then, claim check on liberal-plausible target. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. NEXT ROUND PRESIDENT = GRETA -- steer her nominee toward Otto/Lena-safe targets. This window: Boris named Lena top suspect + me secondary on 'forced F,F,L' story. NEW: Rosa pointed out under Lena's own F,F,L story I had NO free discard (only choice was which F to pass) -- so Lena's 'judge Ines' line collapses; used it. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Rosa/Greta answer, refuse-to-sit-with list Q, Greta nominee+pledge Q (unanswered), Otto-clean defense.
speak round 546s
Greta is President now and still owes the table her read on the split-request dispute and whether she'd refuse a Lena government — Rosa re-asked, no answer. Press her before she finalizes Nadia. Keep it short, don't restate my Lena case.
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L -> TOP SUSPECT (forced pass, checkable); Rosa: only free discard was Lena's. Otto defended Lena unprompted R3, called Ines liar w/o evidence; asked twice (me t=47, Lena t=54), never answered, 'timing' deflection. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. SAID ALOUD: Lena forced pass = guilt; Ines secondary; endorsed Otto nom; got Ines pledge; answered Otto's Q (split-request unfalsifiable, judge Lena's forced pass); answered Nadia t=112 late-answer flag. Greta pres: pledged nominate Nadia + disclosure pledge. OPEN: Greta never gave split-request side / would she refuse Lena govt -- Rosa re-asked, unanswered; I pressed again this turn pre-nomination. Next Fascist unlocks peek: demand named target+result pre-use.
speak round 58s
Already pressed Greta pre-nomination at t=7; nothing new to add without repeating. Nadia's nomination is fine. Stay silent.
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L -> TOP SUSPECT (forced pass, checkable); Rosa: only free discard was Lena's. Otto defended Lena unprompted R3, called Ines liar w/o evidence; asked twice (me t=47, Lena t=54), never answered, 'timing' deflection. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. SAID ALOUD: Lena forced pass = guilt; Ines secondary; endorsed Otto nom; got Ines pledge; answered Otto's Q (split-request unfalsifiable, judge Lena's forced pass); answered Nadia late-answer flag; pressed Greta on split-request side + would-she-refuse-Lena-govt (t=7 R5, unanswered). Greta pres: pledged nominate Nadia + disclosure pledge. Next Fascist unlocks peek: demand named target+result pre-use.
speak failed: timeout
bid round 4124s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; Nadia enacted L => clean-ish. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L. R4: Ines(P)+Otto(C) enacted L; Otto cleared-ish. Suspects: Lena > Ines > Greta. Clean-ish: Otto, Nadia, Boris(?). ON RECORD already: t=2 point (fascist P with F,F,L discards L, so F enactment indicts Lena not Ines); Nadia's t=3 Boris-late-siding flag noted. OWED by Lena: card-position yes/no beyond vague 'third position' (t=108) — still unanswered. OWED by Greta: her side in Lena/Ines dispute + would she refuse a Lena govt (t=41). Greta = next President: verify nomination matches stated plan (pre-reveal pledge + nominating Nadia + staying out of C seat). If peek power hits, demand pre-reveal target+result. Don't repeat t=2 verbatim.
speak round 54s
Greta finally answered my split-request question (leans Ines) and pledged disclosure. Nadia is 1-for-1 clean as Chancellor. This government is acceptable; the useful new contribution is locking in the pre-commitment: if a Fascist policy comes out of this draw, both hands are already pledged to be public, so any Fascist enact here convicts one of exactly two named players. Also keep pressure on Lena, still top suspect.
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L -> TOP SUSPECT (forced pass checkable); Rosa: only free discard was Lena's. Otto defended Lena unprompted R3, called Ines liar w/o evidence, never answered me/Lena directly ('timing' deflection). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. SAID ALOUD: Lena forced pass = guilt, Ines secondary; endorsed Otto nom; got Ines pledge; answered Otto's Q + Nadia's late-answer flag; pressed Greta on split-request side -> ANSWERED t=7 R5 (leans Ines, won't blanket-refuse Lena). NOW: endorsing Greta/Nadia Ja; framed it as two-culprit lock-in via disclosure pledges; reminded Greta of Otto's peek-condition (name target+result pre-reveal). Next Fascist policy unlocks peek power. Open: Lena owes answer on why she kept Fascist with free discard (asked R2/R4, deflected t=87).
bid round 596s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; Nadia enacted L => clean-ish. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; both claim F,F,L. R4: Ines(P)+Otto(C) enacted L; Otto cleared-ish. Suspects: Lena > Ines > Greta. Clean-ish: Otto, Nadia, Boris(?). ON RECORD: t=2 point (fascist P with F,F,L discards L, so F enactment indicts Lena not Ines); Nadia's t=3 Boris-late-siding flag. OWED by Lena: card-position yes/no beyond vague 'third position' (t=108). OWED by Greta: her side in Lena/Ines dispute + would she refuse a Lena govt (t=41). Greta = current President: verify nomination matches stated plan (pre-reveal pledge + nominating Nadia + staying out of C seat). If peek power hits later, demand pre-reveal target+result. Don't repeat t=2 verbatim.
bid round 545s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admitted F,F/L forced pass (TOP suspect). Rosa's t=2 point: only free discard was Lena's -- she chose to force F enact. Ines secondary (no choice with 2F). R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L clean; disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. On record: split-request call vs Ines, pre-reveal disclosure pledge, refuse-to-sit-with-Lena stance. Boris agrees Lena top, Ines secondary. Greta owes Rosa answers + owes me peek pre-announce commitment; pledged nominate Nadia, stay out of Chancellor seat. NEW t=3: Nadia flagged Boris for 3-round silence on split-request dispute, only picking side at t=80 after Otto/Rosa cornered him -- I echoed it, awaiting his answer. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd, Boris mild (late engagement, not outcomes-based yet). Peek power unlocks next F policy.
bid round 515s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admitted F,F/L forced pass (TOP suspect). Rosa's t=2 point: only free discard was Lena's -- she chose to force F enact. Ines secondary. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L clean; disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. On record: split-request call vs Ines, pre-reveal disclosure pledge, refuse-to-sit-with-Lena stance. Boris agrees Lena top, Ines secondary. Greta pledged nominate Nadia + stay out of Chancellor seat -- doing so, vote Ja. NEW t=3: Nadia flagged Boris for 3-round silence on split-request dispute, only picking side at t=80 after Otto/Rosa cornered him -- echoed it, awaiting his answer. This turn: asked Greta pre-vote to commit: if F enacted under her/Nadia, she must announce peek target BEFORE seeing result and disclose fully after. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd, Boris mild. Peek power unlocks next F policy.
bid round 57s
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L -> TOP SUSPECT (forced pass checkable); Rosa: only free discard was Lena's. Otto defended Lena unprompted R3, called Ines liar w/o evidence, never answered me/Lena directly ('timing' deflection). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. SAID ALOUD: Lena forced pass = guilt, Ines secondary; endorsed Otto nom; got Ines pledge; answered Otto's Q + Nadia's late-answer flag; pressed Greta on split-request side -> ANSWERED t=7 R5 (leans Ines, won't blanket-refuse Lena). NOW: endorsing Greta/Nadia Ja (t=3); framed as two-culprit lock-in via disclosure pledges; reminded Greta of Otto peek-condition (name target+result pre-reveal). Next Fascist policy unlocks peek power. Open: Lena owes answer on why she kept Fascist with free discard (asked R2/R4, deflected t=87).
bid round 58s
R1 truth: me(C) under Boris(P), drew F+L, discarded F, enacted L. R3 truth: me(P), drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Nadia F+L; Nadia enacted L => clean-ish. R2: Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; Lena claims passed F,L (t=119) => if true, Ines voluntarily enacted F over free L discard -> Ines top suspect. R4: Ines(P)+Otto(C) enacted L, clean. Suspects: Ines > Lena > Greta (zero govt, but answered split-request Qs: leans Ines). Clean-ish: Otto, Nadia, Boris(?). ON RECORD: my F,F/L president-discard logic point; pressed Boris (answered t=80: top suspect Lena); pressed Greta on split-request + pre-pass 3-card composition -- Greta committed YES at t=3 this window, pledge now binding. Asked Nadia to commit to hold-enact if Greta dodges pre-pass reveal (Otto precedent R4) -- Nadia has not explicitly answered yet; owes yes/no. Plan: Ja on Greta-Nadia either way -- both pledged, so any Fascist enact narrows to two named hands. If peek power unlocks later: demand pre-reveal target+result.
bid round 57s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2: Lena F,F,L forced 2F pass (only free discard hers); Lena dodged card-position Q; t=119 Lena claims Ines had free discard too -- unresolved. R3: Rosa disclosed F,F,L, passed me F,L, cleared. R4: Ines+Otto Lib enacted, cleared. Suspects: Lena top, Ines secondary. SAID PUBLICLY: siding w/ Ines; Boris+Lena identical simultaneous Q at Otto; Lena's forced pass checkable; Lena's defense=fascist-optimal; accepted Greta nomination under full pledge; flagged Boris late t=80 side-pick; demanded Greta pre-state full 3-card composition; committed to hold enact + call out pre-reveal if Greta's pass contradicts stated hand; pressed Greta why she leans Ines (t=52) -- unanswered, re-pressed twice (t=2,t=3). OWED TO ME: Greta owes split-request reasoning (2 presses unanswered); Lena owes R2 discard explanation. COMMITMENTS: if President nominate Otto; peek holder pre-states target+result; scrutinize Greta's discard vs stated hand.
vote round 512s
Greta-Nadia both under full pre-reveal disclosure pledges; Greta committed to stating her three-card composition before passing, Nadia committed to holding enact on mismatch. If a Fascist comes out, both hands are on record. Nein risks a forced auto-policy with no discard. Ja.
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist enacted; Lena claims F,F,L discarded L -> TOP SUSPECT; Ines claims Lena passed F,F (t=114) vs Lena's F,L claim (t=122) -- unfalsifiable dispute, watch consistency. Otto defended Lena unprompted R3, called Ines liar w/o evidence. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. SAID ALOUD: Lena forced pass = guilt; endorsed Otto nom; got Ines pledge; pressed Greta split-request -> answered t=7 (leans Ines); endorsing Greta/Nadia Ja via disclosure pledges. NOW: voting Ja Greta-Nadia. Next Fascist policy unlocks peek power -- remind Greta of Otto's peek-condition (name check target+result pre-reveal). Open: Nadia owes Rosa's t=2 pledge question; Lena owes why she kept Fascist with free discard.
bid round 510s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 cover: requested F+L split, Lena forced F,F,L; Boris/Otto call me liar, Nadia believes me. Rosa: under Lena's story I had no free discard -> 'judge Ines' collapses. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. R6 president=Greta -> steer nominee toward Otto/Lena-safe targets. Greta pledged Nadia nominee, leans me on split-request, committed to full 3-card disclosure pre-pass. Let Greta/Nadia fight over 'lean Ines' -- don't relitigate. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, Rosa/Greta answer, refuse-to-sit-with list Q, nominee+pledge Q, Otto-clean defense. This turn: endorsed p4/p5 gov to help it pass. Watch: Greta's hand disclosure when she draws; if she passes F+F and Nadia enacts F -> 2F, Greta still NOT chancellor-eligible until 3F -- block her nomination next round regardless.
speak round 521s
Fascist enacted under Greta/Nadia despite both pledging full disclosure. Greta now claims a peek (Otto=Liberal) but hasn't stated her three-card composition or which card she discarded -- that's the checkable hole. Nadia also owes her two-card claim. Press both for hands before anyone moves on.
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist; Lena claims F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines claims passed F,F -- unfalsifiable dispute. Otto defended Lena unprompted R3. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. R5 Greta/Nadia Fascist enacted DESPITE both pre-pass disclosure pledges -- Greta claimed peek Otto=Liberal but has NOT stated 3-card composition or discard; Nadia hasn't stated her 2 cards/discard either. NOW: demand Greta's 3 cards + discard, Nadia's 2 cards + discard, cross-check. Suspects: Lena top (R2 forced pass), Ines secondary, Nadia now mixed record (1 Lib + 1 Fascist govt). Next F policy unlocks execute power -- next President should name target pre-reveal. Open: Nadia owes Rosa t=2 pledge question; Lena owes why keep Fascist with free discard.
bid round 526s
R1 Boris/Rosa->1L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena admitted F,F/L forced pass (TOP suspect). Ines secondary. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L clean. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L clean; disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. On record: split-request call vs Ines, pre-reveal disclosure pledge, refuse-to-sit-with-Lena stance. Greta committed: full 3-card composition aloud before passing Nadia; pre-vote pledge to announce peek target BEFORE seeing result if F enacted. NEW: pressed Nadia to answer Rosa's t=2 question (hold enact if no pre-pass reveal) -- she has NOT answered yet. Ines asked Nadia re: holding own R3 record to same standard -- also unanswered. Greta answered Nadia's Ines question twice -- settled. Watchlist: Lena top, Ines 2nd, Boris mild. Peek power unlocks next F policy.
bid failed: timeout
bid round 58s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. R2 cover: requested F+L split, Lena passed F,F,L (no free discard) -- answered Rosa t=now. Board 3L/1F; next F unlocks peek. Keep Greta OUT of chancellorship until 3F. This gov p4/p5: endorsed, voting Ja. Open Qs: Nadia owes answer re her R3 enact under Rosa had no pre-reveal pledge; Greta owes yes/no whether pledge binds her DISCARD choice on F,F,L draw. Points already made: pledge rationale, split-request claim, peek standard, Nadia nominability Q, refuse-to-sit list Q, Otto-clean defense, p4/p5 endorsement. Don't relitigate split-request/Lena dispute further. If F enacted -> 2F; next round block Greta chancellor nomination. Watch Greta's stated 3-card comp vs actual pass; mismatch -> Nadia holds enact.
speak round 514s
Nadia's story: Greta passed F,F, forced enact, and never disclosed. But Nadia's own t=45 pledge was to HOLD the enact if the pass didn't match a stated composition -- she enacted anyway, breaking her own pledge. That's checkable against her words. Either she's lying about the F,F hand or she broke her pledge; both are bad. Press that specific contradiction.
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist; Lena: drew F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines: received F,F forced -- unfalsifiable dispute. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. R5 Greta/Nadia Fascist enacted DESPITE pledges: Greta disclosed peek Otto=Lib but never stated 3-card comp/discard (broke t=39 pledge); Nadia claims Greta passed F,F forced enact BUT broke her own t=45 hold-enact-on-mismatch pledge -- pressed her this window, awaiting answer. Suspects: Nadia rising (pledge break + mixed record), Lena top (R2), Ines secondary. Next F policy unlocks execute power: next President should name target pre-reveal. Open: Greta owes full 3-card comp + discard; Nadia owes Rosa t=32 answer too.
bid round 540s
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean (I passed F,L). R2 Lena/Ines Fascist; Lena claims F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines claims passed F,F -- unfalsifiable dispute. Otto defended Lena unprompted R3. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. R5 Greta/Nadia Fascist enacted despite disclosure pledges; Greta disclosed peek Otto=Lib but not 3-card comp/discard; Nadia STILL hasn't stated 2 cards/discard -- pressed again this window. Suspects: Lena top (R2), Ines secondary, Nadia mixed (1 Lib + 1 Fascist govt). Next F policy unlocks execute power: next President should name target pre-reveal. Open: Nadia owes Rosa t=2 pledge answer too; Lena owes why keep Fascist with free discard.
bid round 569s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution. Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F -- stay OUT of Chancellor seat. R5 truth-safe: drew F,F,F as President, discarded one F, passed F,F to Nadia -> Fascist enacted. Pledge pre-reveal restated for Boris/Rosa -- all truthful. Fabricated peek claim: Otto Liberal (disclosed t=1). Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L forced enact dispute vs Ines's 'passed F,F' claim), Ines secondary (split-request fabrication framing x2). Nominated Nadia R5; her F,F claim matches my pass -- consistent. Watch next presidency pick; if near Chancellor seat at 3F, deflect hard. Nothing new this window -- staying quiet.
bid round 516s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F enact; Ines claims Lena passed F,F vs Lena claims F,L -- contradiction; Lena top suspect, Ines secondary. R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto Lib clean. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge (no composition disclosure before passing); I enacted F claiming Greta passed F,F (forced). Defense: pledge applied only when a Liberal was discardable; F,F = no choice. NEW: Rosa's L,F,F scenario CONFIRMS my account -- if Greta drew L,F,F she freely passed F,F; either way Greta owes full 3-card composition + why she skipped disclosure + discard-binding yes/no (t=88/t=107 unanswered). Greta's Otto-peek doesn't substitute for hand disclosure. Pattern: Greta 1-for-1 govts w/ an F + broken pledge -- top suspect alongside Lena. COMMITMENTS: if President next, nominate Otto; scrutinize Greta/Lena.
bid failed: timeout
bid round 57s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; I disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F enacted. Greta broke t=39 full-composition pre-pass pledge; claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F at t=52 -- timing tell already called out by me (t=3). Nadia: forced-enact claim + 'nothing stated' contradicts her own t=45 hold-pledge; Boris pressing too. Watchlist: Greta top suspect, Lena R2 suspect, Ines 2nd, Nadia 2nd F gov. Points made: pre-reveal standard, cornered Boris on split-request, asked Greta peek commitment, Nadia hold contradiction, Greta late hand claim. Nothing new to add this turn.
bid round 511s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; I disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F enacted. Greta broke t=39 full-composition pre-pass pledge; claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F at t=52 -- timing tell already called out by me (t=3). Nadia: forced-enact claim + 'nothing stated' contradicts her own t=45 hold-pledge; Boris pressing too. Watchlist: Greta top suspect, Lena R2 suspect, Ines 2nd, Nadia 2nd F gov. Points made: pre-reveal standard, cornered Boris on split-request, asked Greta peek commitment, Nadia hold contradiction, Greta late hand claim. Rosa now demanding Greta name execution target pre-draw -- good pressure, let it play out. Nothing new to add this turn.
speak round 518s
Greta's Otto-check is disclosed; the new leverage is demanding the NEXT President commit to naming their investigation target and result before any reveal, same standard as before. Also Nadia still hasn't answered Rosa's t=32 question about holding her enact.
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean. R2 Lena/Ines Fascist; Lena claims F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines claims forced F,F. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. R5 Greta/Nadia Fascist: Greta claims F,F,F surfaced only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 pre-pass disclosure; checked Otto=Liberal (disclosed). Nadia claims F,F forced; broke her own hold-enact pledge (no stated composition to match); never answered Rosa t=32 yes/no. Suspects: Nadia top (R2+R5 govs), Lena high (R2), Greta secondary (disclosure timing). Points made aloud: Nadia pledge-break x2, Greta timing/t=39, endorsed Nadia enacted with no stated hand, demanded execution target named BEFORE draw. NEW aloud: demanded next President disclose investigation target+result pre-reveal; flagged Nadia owing Rosa t=32.
bid round 57s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded one F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; matches Nadia's claim. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L vs Ines 'passed F,F' dispute), Ines secondary (split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F under unfulfilled pledge). Points made: lean-Ines rationale, full F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing defense, Otto-attacks-me-excuses-Nadia, Nadia pledge collapse, two voluntary Fascist enacts, execution target = Ines w/ R2+R3 justification & Otto peek-clear. NEW t=1: conceded Nadia's veto-impossibility point (no veto at 2F) -- graceful concession buys trust. Open: Nadia still owes answer on why she enacted F,F despite pledge. Watch next presidency pick; deflect hard if near Chancellor seat at 3F.
bid round 529s
R1 me(C) under Boris: discarded F, enacted L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, she enacted L (clean). R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) enacted F; HAND DISPUTE unresolved: Ines says Lena passed F,F, Lena says F,L. R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) enacted F. Greta pledged full 3-card composition BEFORE passing (t=39), never stated it; only AFTER my t=52 L,F,F challenge did she claim F,F,F -- Nadia t=65 + Otto t=72 flagged timing independently. Peeked Otto=L (t=5 R5) -- unverifiable. ON RECORD (don't repeat): Ines F,F-vs-F,L demand; Greta pre-pledge breach; Nadia pledge-break (Boris t=45); Nadia F,F confession; my L,F,F challenge. NEW t=3: Greta named INES as execution target -- the one auditing her all round, while sparing Otto. I'm pressing: why Ines over Otto? No answer yet. Suspects: Greta > Ines > Lena > Nadia. Clean-ish: Otto (peeked L), Boris(?), me.
bid failed: timeout
bid round 563s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F enact; contradiction open (Lena: passed F,L vs Ines: received F,F). R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F enacted (I'm chancellor, innocent liberal). CHECKABLE: Greta pledged full 3-card disclosure BEFORE passing (t=39), stated NOTHING until Rosa named L,F,F (t=52->58), then claimed F,F,F. Peek claim: Otto=Liberal. MADE ALREADY: no composition stated; F,F,F timing; no-veto-at-2F so 'hold it' impossible; pledge-bind question t=107; exec target=Ines=witness to R2 contradiction, why kill witness not Lena. GRETA UNANSWERED: does pledge bind discard choice? NEW NOW: investigate power live -- demand Greta commit IN ADVANCE to investigating Lena and announce result publicly, no retroactive story. Suspects: Greta TOP, Lena 2nd. COMMITMENTS: if President next, nominate Otto; keep pressing Greta/Lena.
bid round 521s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted (clean). R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute unresolved (Ines F,F / Lena F,L). R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F. Greta pledged 3-card comp BEFORE pass (t=39), silent, claimed F,F,F only after my t=52 challenge. Peeked Otto=L (unverifiable). Execution target Ines = witness contradicting her story; 'why not Otto' unanswered. Nadia ADMITTED no comp stated (t=38) yet enacted -- broke own t=45 hold-pledge; her F,F claim unverifiable too. Suspects: Greta+Nadia pair > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. Owed: Nadia t=32 yes/no (Boris flagged it again); Greta why-Ines + pre-reveal pledge for next investigation. Points on record: silence-before-pass logic, comp disputes, execution-target-is-witness.
speak round 635s
Nadia is President now. She's my top suspect (two Fascist-enacting governments, broke hold pledge, never answered Rosa t=32). Demand pre-nomination commitment: nominee + reasoning, and re-ask t=32 debt.
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean. R2 Lena/Ines F; Lena claims F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines claims forced F,F. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta claims F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 pre-pass disclosure; peeked Otto=Lib. Nadia claims F,F forced; broke hold-enact pledge; NEVER answered Rosa t=32 yes/no. Suspects: Nadia TOP (R2+R5 govs, pledge break, t=32 dodge), Lena high (R2), Greta secondary (timing). Points made aloud: pledge-break x2, Greta timing, demanded execution target pre-draw, demanded next President disclose investigation target+result pre-reveal, flagged Nadia t=32 debt, endorsed Nadia enacted with no stated hand. Open debts: Nadia owes Rosa t=32 AND owes me nominee+reasoning pre-vote (just asked); Greta owes Otto t=168 (why peek Otto not Lena/Ines). NOW: Nadia is President R6.
bid round 533s
R1 me+Rosa Lib clean. R2 Lena/Ines Fascist; Lena claims F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines claims forced F,F. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib clean. R4 Ines/Otto Lib clean. R5 Greta/Nadia Fascist: Greta claims F,F,F surfaced only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 pre-pass disclosure; checked Otto=Liberal (disclosed). Nadia claims F,F forced; broke her own hold-enact pledge; never answered Rosa t=32 yes/no. Suspects: Nadia top (R2+R5 govs), Lena high (R2), Greta secondary (timing). Points made aloud: Nadia pledge-break x2, Greta t=39 timing, endorsed Nadia enacted with no stated hand, demanded execution target named BEFORE draw, demanded next President disclose investigation target+result pre-reveal, flagged Nadia owing Rosa t=32. NEW t=163-165: Nadia now steering all heat onto Greta/Lena, dodging her own debts. Open debts: Nadia owes Rosa t=32 answer.
bid round 5136s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 3L/2F; next F unlocks execution; win path = Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT of it. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded one F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; matches Nadia's claim. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Suspects: Lena top (R2 F,F,L vs Ines 'passed F,F' dispute), Ines secondary (split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F under unfulfilled pledge). Points already made: lean-Ines rationale, full F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, timing defense, Otto-attacks-me-excuses-Nadia, Nadia pledge collapse, two voluntary Fascist enacts, execution target = Ines w/ R2+R3 justification & Otto peek-clear, conceded Nadia veto-impossibility point, answered Ines timing attack, committed to investigating Lena + announce target/result before reveal. NEW this turn: answered Otto's 'why peek the clean player' -- verifying least-suspected player eliminates a lane / rules out hidden fascist hiding behind clean record. Open: Nadia still owes answer on why she enacted F,F despite pledge. Watch next presidency pick; deflect hard if near Chancellor seat at 3F.
bid failed: timeout
bid round 610s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94 -- answered twice, done. Boris t=80: me top suspect (forced-F logic). Nadia t=2: Greta passed F,F R5; Greta claims F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F trap -- bad look for her. Otto pressing Greta on why she peeked him (clean player) instead of me/Ines -- good, let it run, don't defend her. My line out: execution targets skip Nadia/Otto/Rosa who press hardest. Peek fired R5; next F unlocks pres-pick. Silent again -- nothing new to add.
bid round 611s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F; contradiction open (Lena passed F,L vs Ines received F,F). R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F; I held forced F,F (no veto at 2F), answered t=32/t=38/Boris t=8. GRETA CASE: pledged 3-card disclosure BEFORE pass, silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; peek Otto=Liberal unverifiable zero-cost result; exec target=Ines=witness to R2 contradiction. MADE OUT LOUD: all above + bind-discard Q + why exec Ines not Lena + demand Greta publish Fascist peek + zero-cost peek point. GRETA UNANSWERED: bind discard choice?; why exec Ines not Lena?; would she publish Fascist peek? Suspects: Greta TOP, Lena 2nd. NOW PRESIDENT: nominee Otto announced (clean R4); pledged full hand disclosure before passing. Nothing new this turn -> silent.
speak round 615s
Nadia has now committed to pre-pass disclosure and named Greta as her peek target. That target is convenient for her: a Liberal result on Greta would launder her own Round 5 story. I'll vote Ja on Otto (clean record) but pin that down publicly before the vote.
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F; Lena claims F,F,L disc F passed F,L; Ines claims forced. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 disclosure; peeked Otto=Lib (unverifiable). Nadia claims forced; broke hold-pledge; answered Rosa t=32 at t=171. Suspects: Nadia TOP (R2+R5 govs), Lena high, Greta secondary. Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, exec target pre-draw, next-Pres disclose investigation pre-reveal, Nadia t=32 debt. Open debt: Greta owes Otto why peek Otto not Lena/Ines. R6: Nadia Pres, nominee Otto; Nadia committed to full comp pre-pass + peek target Greta announced w/ result; Otto holds enact on mismatch; Rosa conditioning Ja. My move: vote Ja; asked Nadia whether Lib peek on Greta clears her or not -- awaiting answer.
bid round 67s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F; contradiction open (Lena passed F,L vs Ines received F,F). R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F; I held forced F,F (no veto at 2F). GRETA CASE: pledged 3-card disclosure BEFORE pass, silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; peek Otto=Liberal unverifiable zero-cost result; exec target=Ines=witness to R2 contradiction. MADE OUT LOUD: all above + bind-discard Q + why exec Ines not Lena + demand Greta publish Fascist peek + zero-cost peek point. GRETA UNANSWERED: bind discard choice?; why exec Ines not Lena?; would she publish Fascist peek? Suspects: Greta TOP, Lena 2nd. NOW PRESIDENT: nominee Otto announced (clean R4); THIS TURN committed out loud: yes, full 3-card composition disclosed BEFORE passing; peek target = Greta if power lands.
bid round 612s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted (clean). R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute unresolved (Ines: F,F / Lena: F,L). R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F; Greta pledged comp BEFORE pass, silent, claimed F,F,F only after my L,F,F challenge; peeked Otto=L (dodged Lena/Ines/Nadia); exec target Ines = witness. Nadia broke hold-pledge: no comp stated, enacted anyway. Suspects: Greta+Nadia > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. OWES ME: Nadia YES/NO on stating full 3-card comp BEFORE passing (t=28, unanswered -- re-asked t~now); Greta: why peek Otto, why exec Ines not Lena. R6: Nadia(P), nominee Otto (clean R4). Otto has publicly pledged to hold enact on comp mismatch -- good. On record already: silence-before-pass logic, hand disputes, exec-target-is-witness, why-peek-Otto, Nadia's broken pledges. Don't repeat.
speak round 655s
Nadia's peek target is Greta, but even a Liberal result on Greta wouldn't resolve the Round 5 discard question -- party membership says nothing about what she drew or passed. Press Nadia on what her peek can actually prove, and note Lena remains the unpeeked suspect.
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F (Lena claims F,F->Ines F,F forced vs Lena F,L -- unresolved). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 disclosure; peeked Otto=Lib unverifiable. Nadia broke hold-pledge, claims forced F,F. Suspects: Nadia TOP, Lena high, Greta secondary. Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, exec target pre-draw, Nadia t=32 debt (answered t=171), Nadia peek target self-vindicating. NEW t~190: told Nadia a Liberal peek on Greta proves nothing about her R5 hand; Lena is the unpeeked suspect. Open: Greta owes Otto why peek Otto not Lena/Ines. Nadia committed full comp pre-pass + peek Greta w/ result; Otto holds enact on mismatch. Vote Ja.
speak round 614s
Nadia-Otto is the most audited government; I'm voting Ja. Nadia committed to full composition pre-pass and peeking Greta with result announced. My new point: if the Greta peek comes back Liberal (likely), it proves nothing about her R5 hand -- Nadia should commit in advance to a second target, Lena, since Lena remains the unpeeked suspect tied to the R2 contradiction.
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F (Lena F,F->Ines forced vs Lena F,L -- unresolved). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 disclosure; peeked Otto=Lib unverifiable. Nadia broke hold-pledge, claims forced F,F. Suspects: Nadia TOP, Lena high, Greta secondary. Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, exec target pre-draw, Nadia t=32 debt (answered), Nadia peek target self-vindicating, Liberal peek on Greta proves nothing re R5 hand. NEW t~200: asked Nadia to pre-commit second peek target = Lena if Greta reads Lib. Nadia committed full comp pre-pass + peek Greta w/ result; Otto holds enact on mismatch. Vote Ja.
bid round 6194s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted (clean). R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute unresolved (Ines: F,F / Lena: F,L). R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F; Greta pledged comp BEFORE pass, silent, claimed F,F,F only after my L,F,F challenge; peeked Otto=L (dodged Lena/Ines/Nadia); exec target Ines = witness. Nadia broke hold-pledge: no comp stated, enacted anyway. Suspects: Greta+Nadia > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. R6: Nadia(P) nominee Otto (clean R4, will hold enact on mismatch). Asked Nadia 3x (t=28, t=41, R6 open_floor): commit to stating full 3-card comp BEFORE passing -- NO ANSWER through t=3; announced Nein unless she commits. Otto+Boris echo same demand. On record already: silence-before-pass logic, hand disputes, exec-target-is-witness, why-peek-Otto, Nadia's broken pledges, double standard. Nothing new to add this window; staying silent unless Nadia finally answers. Next: if gov passes, watch whether Nadia discloses comp before pass; if not, Otto's hold is the test.
bid round 69s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines received F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/Otto(me)->L; disclosed F,L pre-reveal, discarded F. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke t=39 pre-pass pledge, claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked me 'Liberal' (unverifiable); exec target Ines. Nadia: nominated me R6, now pledged full pre-pass disclosure + peek target Greta announced. Watchlist: Greta top, Lena R2 suspect. Made out loud: pre-reveal standard, Greta late hand timing, why peek me not Lena/Ines, cornering Nadia on hold-pledge, pass-becomes-evidence warning, enact-hold pledge. NEW: my counter-pledge -- I announce my two cards before enacting; any mismatch = hold and call out Nadia. Open: nothing major; Rosa's demand answered by Nadia at t=2.
speak round 614s
Vote is effectively decided (Ja). Nadia finally answered my t=74 question with a yes at t=100. New useful point: bind Otto to disclose his two cards and discard BEFORE enacting, so the cross-check against Nadia's stated composition happens pre-reveal, not after.
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F (Lena F,F->Ines forced vs Lena F,L -- unresolved). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 disclosure; peeked Otto=Lib unverifiable; exec target Ines pre-draw. Nadia broke hold-pledge, claims forced F,F. Suspects: Nadia TOP, Lena high, Greta secondary. Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, peek target self-vindicating, Liberal peek on Greta proves nothing re R5 hand, asked Nadia commit 2nd scrutiny=Lena if Greta Lib -> ANSWERED YES at t=100. R6: Nadia committed to full 3-card disclosure before passing Otto, peek target Greta. My new ask: Otto disclose his 2 cards + discard BEFORE enacting for pre-reveal cross-check. Vote Ja.
bid round 68s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted (clean). R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute unresolved (Ines: F,F / Lena: F,L). R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F; Greta pledged comp BEFORE pass, silent, claimed F,F,F only after my L,F,F challenge; peeked Otto=L; exec target Ines = witness. Nadia broke hold-pledge R5: no comp stated, enacted anyway. Suspects: Greta+Nadia > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. R6: Nadia(P) nominee Otto. Nadia committed t=1: full 3-card comp + peek Greta announced pre-pass -> demand met, voting Ja. Otto pledged hold-enact on mismatch. Already on record: silence-before-pass logic, hand disputes, exec-target-is-witness, why-peek-Otto, broken pledges, double standard. Next: verify enacted policy matches Nadia's stated comp and Otto's claim; if mismatch, call it immediately.
vote round 611s
Nadia-Otto is the most audited government yet: Nadia committed to full 3-card disclosure before passing, Otto committed to stating his two cards and discard before enacting (t=122), and Nadia answered my t=74 yes-or-no at t=100. Otto's Round 4 record is clean. A Nein risks an auto-enacted policy with no discard; Ja with the cross-check pledges live is strictly better information-wise.
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F (Lena F,F->Ines forced vs Lena F,L -- unresolved). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 disclosure; peeked Otto=Lib unverifiable; exec target Ines pre-draw. Nadia broke hold-pledge, claims forced F,F. Suspects: Nadia TOP, Lena high, Greta secondary. Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, peek self-vindicating, Liberal peek on Greta proves nothing re R5 hand, asked Nadia commit scrutiny=Lena if Greta Lib -> YES t=100. R6: Nadia committed 3-card disclosure pre-pass, peek target Greta. Otto confirmed t=122: states his 2 cards + discard BEFORE enacting for cross-check vs Nadia's stated composition. Voted Ja.
bid round 613s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted (clean). R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute unresolved (Ines: F,F / Lena: F,L). R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F; Greta pledged comp BEFORE pass, silent, claimed F,F,F only after my L,F,F challenge; peeked Otto=L; exec target Ines = witness. Nadia broke hold-pledge R5: no comp stated, enacted anyway. Suspects: Greta+Nadia > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. R6: Nadia(P) nominee Otto. Nadia committed t=1: full 3-card comp + peek Greta pre-pass -> demand met, voting Ja. Otto pledged hold-enact on mismatch. Already on record: silence-before-pass logic, hand disputes, exec-target-is-witness, why-peek-Otto, broken pledges, double standard. NEW t=1-3: Boris pressing Nadia to commit post-Liberal-peek scrutiny to Lena; Nadia deflected twice. Next: verify enacted policy matches Nadia's stated comp and Otto's claim; mismatch = call immediately.
bid round 615s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F; contradiction open. R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F; my hand forced F,F. GRETA CASE made out loud: silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; peek Otto=Liberal zero-cost unverifiable; exec target=Ines=witness to R2 contradiction; bind-discard Q unanswered; why exec Ines not Lena unanswered. Suspects: Greta TOP, Lena 2nd. NOW: re-answered Boris t=74 YES -- if Greta peek reads Liberal I commit to turning scrutiny on Lena next. Lena/Otto pressing same point repeatedly = noise. As President: nominee Otto (peeked Liberal R5), will peek Greta, pledge disclosure.
speak round 614s
Otto reported L,F, discarded F. Nadia's stated three must contain that L and F. If she names them promptly, both are cleared for this round and suspicion shifts back to Lena (R2 contradiction) and Greta (late F,F,F). One short remark pressing Nadia to answer now.
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F (Lena F,F->Ines vs Lena F,L unresolved). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 pledge; peeked Otto=Lib unverifiable; exec target Ines pre-draw. Nadia broke hold-pledge, claims forced F,F. Suspects: Nadia TOP, Lena high, Greta secondary. Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, self-vindicating peek, Liberal peek proves nothing re R5 hand, got Nadia's YES t=100 to scrutinize Lena if Greta reads Lib. R6 Nadia-Otto enacted LIB -> cleared pending cross-check. Otto reported L,F, discarded F. NOW: demanded Nadia name all 3 cards containing Otto's L+F. Owed: Nadia 3-card answer + honor Lena-scrutiny commitment; Greta late F,F,F explanation. If Nadia complies cleanly, shift focus to Lena/Greta.
bid round 618s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F; contradiction open (Ines: F,F forced; Lena claims passed F,L). R3 Rosa clean. R4 Ines+Otto clean. R5 Greta-Nadia F; my hand F,F forced, no veto at 2F. GRETA CASE public: silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; zero-cost Otto peek unverifiable; exec target Ines=witness; bind-discard Q unanswered; why Ines not Lena unanswered. Suspects: Greta TOP, Lena 2nd. I answered t=74 YES peek Greta => scrutiny shifts to Lena. As President: nominee Otto; will state 3-card composition before passing; peek result on Greta announced publicly. Otto owes concrete hold-pledge per Boris t=3.
bid round 610s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94 -- answered twice, done. Boris pushing me as top suspect -- answered once, don't repeat. Voted Ja on Nadia-Otto (R6). Points made: Nadia dodging Boris's yes/no mirrors her R5 demand on Greta; Otto echoed it. Nadia peek target = Greta per her t=37 pledge; if fired expect Liberal result or dodge. Peek fired R5; next Fascist unlocks pres-pick power. If pressed on R2: same story, no new detail.
bid round 611s
Me=Hitler(fascist). Board 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next President). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, discarded F, passed F,F to Nadia -> forced enact; disclosed F,F,F publicly. Peek claim on record: Otto Liberal (fabricated). Investigation DONE: checked Lena per commitment, announced LIBERAL (she is actually fascist) -- honest, on record. Suspects: Ines top (R2 'forced' enact vs Lena's F,L claim + R3 split-request fabrication), Nadia co-suspect (R5 enacted F,F despite hold-pledge). Lena cleared via my check. Points already made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, peek disclosure, two voluntary Fascist enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), exec target=Ines, tracker warning to Rosa, Nadia's peek threat empty (F2 gone). Open: Ines still owes R2 hand reconciliation with Lena. Nadia committed: if her peek reads Liberal on me, scrutiny turns to Lena. Watch: if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat, deflect hard.
bid round 616s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Rosa re-asking same Q since t=94 -- answered twice, done. Boris pushing me as top suspect -- answered once, don't repeat. Voted Ja on Nadia-Otto (R6). Otto reported R6 hand L+F, discarded F, enacted L; Nadia's t=2 disclosure matches his report word-for-word -- cross-check satisfied, so Nadia pressure is spent. Otto t=3 correct: peek fired once in R5 under Greta, no repeat; Nadia's 'target Greta' pledge was theater. NEW POINT made: Greta still owes the table her actual R5 peek result announced with a name -- she has dodged since t=37. Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick power (R7+). If pressed on R2: same story, no new detail.
speak round 624s
Lena remains my top suspect: Round 2 produced the game's first Fascist under her presidency, and the Lena-says-F,L / Ines-says-F,F contradiction is still unresolved. I've pressed Nadia and Greta plenty; I've never put the direct question to Lena herself. Ask her now, specifically.
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F (contradiction unresolved). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta late-claimed F,F,F -> if true she's sole culprit; broke t=39 pre-pass disclosure pledge. R6 Nadia(F,L,F) matches Otto report -> Nadia cleared both rounds. Suspects: Lena TOP (R2 F), Greta secondary (late F,F+F, self-serving Otto peek, scrutiny only lands on Ines). Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, peek proves nothing re R5, Nadia's YES to scrutinize Lena, Otto hold-pledge concrete. NEW this turn: direct ask to Lena for exact R2 draw/pass. Open: Greta owes timing explanation; Ines says received F,F no Lib.
speak round 614s
I just asked Lena directly for her Round 2 draw and pass. Best move is to wait for her specific answer before pressing further -- if she repeats F,F,L with a Fascist discard, that's a voluntary Fascist enact choice on record. Nothing new to add this turn without restating.
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F (contradiction unresolved). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta late-claimed F,F,F after Rosa named L,F,F -> if true sole culprit; broke t=39 pre-pass disclosure pledge; self-serving Otto peek; scrutiny only lands on Ines (execution target). R6 Nadia(F,L,F) matches Otto report word-for-word -> Nadia cleared both rounds. Suspects: Lena TOP (R2 F), Greta secondary. Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, peek proves nothing re R5, Nadia's YES to scrutinize Lena, Otto hold-pledge concrete, Nadia R6 hand verified. OPEN: my direct question to Lena at t=99 -- exact R2 three cards + what she passed Ines. Awaiting her answer. Follow-up ready: if she says F,F,L, why discard a Fascist when passing L,F was available?
speak round 617s
Lena still owes me her exact Round 2 hand. I'll pre-commit the follow-up publicly so any answer gets trapped: if she says F,F,L and passed F,L, then Ines held a Liberal and the Fascist enact was voluntary -- contradicting Ines's 'forced' story. If she says she passed F,F, that contradicts nothing but makes her discard irrelevant. Either way her answer must fit one of two branches.
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F (contradiction unresolved). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta late-claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 pre-pass pledge; self-serving Otto peek; execution target = Ines (the witness). R6 Nadia(F,L,F) matches Otto word-for-word -> Nadia cleared both rounds. Suspects: Lena TOP (R2), Greta secondary. Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, peek proves nothing re R5 hands, Nadia's YES to scrutinize Lena, Otto hold-pledge concrete, Nadia R6 verified. OPEN: t=99 direct question to Lena -- exact R2 three cards + pass to Ines. NEW this turn: laid both-trap branches on Lena (F,F,L passed F,L => Ines voluntary enact; or admit F,F pass). Awaiting her answer.
bid round 6116s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims passed F,L, Ines says F,F -- unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/me->L clean. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked ME 'Liberal' (unverifiable); exec target Ines=witness. R6 Nadia pres, me chanc, 7-0 Ja; I got L,F, discarded F, enacted L (4/5), disclosed live; Nadia's stated F,L,F matches word-for-word. NEW: Nadia demanded Greta announce her 'peek result on me' -- FALSE, single peek fired R5 under Greta and targeted ME, not Nadia. Checkable slip or deliberate muddying; pressed publicly this turn. Suspects: Greta top (broken pledge, safe peek on me, exec Ines=witness). Lena unpeeked, R2 contradiction open. Owed answers: Greta -- why pledge then break it + late-hand timing; Lena/Ines -- resolve R2 hand contradiction. Already said: hold-pledge standard, why peek me not Lena/Ines, Liberal-peek proves nothing re R5 hand, peek fires once so Nadia's 'target Greta' pledge was empty theater.
speak round 618s
Lena has now answered my t=99 question with a specific hand (F,F,L, passed F,L). The contradiction now rests entirely on Ines's account -- she claimed Lena passed her F,F with no Liberal to discard. If Ines confirms she received F,L, she voluntarily enacted a Fascist; if she insists F,F, one of them is lying and I need to weigh which story is more consistent. Ask Ines directly, one final time, framed as a cross-check against Lena's on-record answer.
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta late-claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 pre-pass pledge; self-serving Otto peek; exec target=Ines. R6 Nadia(F,L,F) matches Otto word-for-word -> Nadia cleared both rounds. Suspects: Greta TOP (pledge-break + timing + unverifiable hand), Lena vs Ines R2 contradiction OPEN. Lena answered t=99: F,F,L, passed F,L (t=113). NOW ASKED INES: what 2 cards did she receive in R2 -- F,L means voluntary Fascist enact; F,F means she contradicts Lena. Awaiting Ines. Made aloud already: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, peek proves nothing re hands, Nadia verified, both-trap branches on Lena.
bid round 612s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED story: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines enacted F. Just backed Ines: only 'contradiction' to her account is my own memory, which agrees with hers -- R2 closed unless someone brings NEW evidence. Points already made: Nadia's t=100 pledge void (peek fired once in R5, Otto confirmed t=40); defended Greta vs Nadia timing case; Greta owes actual R5 peek result w/ name. Nobody answered my t=72 question yet. Board 4L/2F -- liberals one policy from win; slow Liberal enacts, push suspicion onto Nadia/Rosa/Boris. Otto clean record. Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick power (R7+). Don't repeat R2 defense again.
bid round 645s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted. R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute unresolved (Ines: F,F / Lena: F,L) -- Ines still owes reconciliation. R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F; Greta pledged comp pre-pass, silent, claimed F,F,F only AFTER my challenge; peeked Otto=L; exec target Ines=witness; Greta owes why silent pre-pass + announce peek with name. Nadia broke hold-pledge R5. R6 Nadia-Otto L; Otto published L,F discard F; Nadia comp matches ONLY after Boris demanded it -- same silence-until-cornered pattern as R5 (already on record). Suspects: Greta+Nadia > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. Pledge stands: Nein any Nadia-led govt until R5 broken hold-pledge explained. Already said: cross-check demand, mismatch=2nd broken pledge, exec-target-witness, peek logic, late-disclosure pattern. New this window: Lena correctly flags Nadia's t=100 peek pledge as impossible (peek fired R5, non-repeat) -- Nadia owes answer to that too. Nothing else new -> silent.
bid round 610s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed F,L; Ines forced enact. Just answered Boris's direct question with that exact hand (t~latest). NEW POINT: peek power only unlocked after 2nd Fascist enacted = Round 5 (Greta-Nadia gov). Any Greta claim of peeking Otto BEFORE R5 is mechanically impossible -- press her for timing. Board 4L/2F, liberals one from win. Nadia mixed record (R3 L chanc, R5 F chanc, R6 L pres). Otto clean: R4 L, R6 L. Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick. Don't repeat: R2 defense, t=72, Nadia void-pledge/timing points.
speak round 7204s
Ines finally answered t=124: she claims F,F in Round 2, directly contradicting Lena's on-record F,F,L pass. One of them is lying. New angle nobody raised: Greta pre-named Ines for execution (Round 5 power talk). If Ines were the Fascist there, a Fascist Greta would be burning her own teammate -- so either Greta is Liberal (and genuinely suspects Ines), or Greta is Hitler who can't see teammates, or Greta's target choice was theater. Worth putting to Otto before he nominates: he should commit to nominee + reasoning pre-vote, per the standard we've enforced all game.
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta late-claimed F,F,F after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 pledge; exec target=Ines. R6 Nadia(F,L,F) matches Otto word-for-word -> Nadia cleared. R2 CONTRADICTION LIVE: Lena says passed Ines F,L; Ines answered t=142 'received two Fascists' -> one of Lena/Ines lying. NEW point made aloud this window: Greta's R5 exec target = Ines = center of R2 contradiction; asked Greta why. Asked Otto: commit nominee+reasoning pre-vote. Suspects: Greta TOP (pledge-break, timing, unverifiable hand), then Lena-vs-Ines pair unresolved. Already said aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, peek limits, Nadia verified, both-trap branches.
speak round 774s
Greta's scrutiny consistently spares everyone except Ines, and she pre-named Ines for execution while the R2 contradiction (Lena vs Ines) is unresolved -- if Ines is Liberal and lying about R2, Greta's target protects the real Fascist. I've asked Greta why before; now push the sharper version: her clearing of Nadia was instant while her case against Ines rests on an unresolved contradiction. Also still want Otto's pre-vote nominee commitment.
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta late-claimed F,F,F after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 pledge; exec target=Ines. R6 Nadia(F,L,F) matches Otto word-for-word -> Nadia cleared. R2 CONTRADICTION LIVE: Lena says passed Ines F,L; Ines says received two Fascists -> one lying. Said aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, peek limits, Nadia verified, both-trap branches, Greta exec-target=Ines question, Otto commit request (t=7). NEW this window: Greta cleared Nadia in one message but keeps targeting Ines off unresolved contradiction. Suspects: Greta TOP, then Lena-vs-Ines pair. Owed answers: Otto nominee+reasoning pre-vote; Greta why target Ines.
speak round 760s
Nadia's hand cross-checked word-for-word with Otto in R6, so the R5 Fascist enact now points squarely at Greta's presidency (her late F,F,F claim after Rosa named L,F,F). The other Fascist source is the unresolved Lena-vs-Ines R2 contradiction. New point worth making: with Nadia cleared, Greta is the only player whose government produced a Fascist policy without an open defense -- and she pre-named Ines for execution, which conveniently aims the table at the other suspect cluster.
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta late-claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 pledge; exec target=Ines. R6 Nadia(F,L,F) matches Otto -> NADIA CLEARED => R5 Fascist points at Greta alone. R2 CONTRADICTION LIVE: Lena says passed Ines F,L; Ines says received two Fascists -> one lying. Said aloud already: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, peek limits, Nadia verified, both-trap branches, exec-target question, Otto commit request (t=7), Greta-dropped-Nadia-fast point. NEW t=14: pressed Greta directly -- with Nadia cleared, her R5 presidency is the only undefended Fascist source; asked what clears her if Ines truthful. Suspects: Greta TOP; then Lena-vs-Ines pair (one lying). Owed answers: Otto nominee+reasoning pre-vote; Greta what-clears-her.
bid round 645s
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F (contradiction unresolved). R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta late-claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; broke t=39 pre-pass pledge; self-serving Otto peek; execution target = Ines. R6 Nadia(F,L,F) matches Otto word-for-word -> Nadia cleared both rounds. Suspects: Lena TOP (R2), Greta secondary. Made aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, peek proves nothing re R5 hands, Nadia's YES to scrutinize Lena, Otto hold-pledge, Nadia R6 verified, both-trap branches on Lena (t=1,2). OPEN: t=99 direct question to Lena -- exact R2 three cards + pass. NEW: asking Ines what Lena passed her in R2 -- independent corroboration; if Ines's answer contradicts Lena's, Lena is done. Awaiting both.
bid round 621s
Fascist w/ Lena(P1); Hitler=Greta(P4). Claim lib. Board 4L/2F. Keep Greta OUT of chanc until 3F. R5: Greta broke t=39 pledge; F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked Otto->'Liberal'; exec target = ME. R6: Nadia hand F,L,F matched Otto report; Greta instantly cleared Nadia + redirected to me. R2: my story = Lena passed me F,F (forced enact). NOW Lena claims F,F,L passing me F,L -- direct contradiction; hold firm: I received exactly two cards, both Fascist, enacted the only thing I could. Lena's story conveniently makes me 'voluntary' Fascist -- ask why her memory improved only under pressure. Points made: pledge rationale, split-request, exec-target deflect, F,F,F timing hole, pre-named-target theater, Nadia R3 no-pledge Q (t=82), pledge-binds-discard Q (t=88), Ja rationales, suspect-list-narrows-to-me, mechanical-inconsistency demand re R2, Greta fast-clear of Nadia. Open: Nadia re t=82; Greta re t=88 + fast-clear rationale. Watch Otto/Nadia/Rosa/Boris as libs. Next gov: prefer Lena or Otto chancellor; avoid Greta until 3F.
bid round 617s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED lie: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Ines F,L -> voluntary enact framing; stated t=1/99/106/this window (one-line confirmation only), no more detail repeats. Peek power fired R5 (Greta peeked Otto); Nadia's Greta-peek pledge void, pressed t=72/80. Board 4L/2F, liberals one from win. Otto clean (R4,R6 L chanc). Nadia mixed: R3 L, R5 F enact, R6 L. Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick. Open angles not yet spent: Nadia's R5 voluntary-looking Fascist enact; Greta's broken pledge + late F,F,F claim. Don't repeat: R2 hand defense details, void-pledge points, Nadia timing points.
bid round 712s
R1 me(C) Boris: L. R3 me(P): passed Nadia F+L, L enacted. R2 Lena(P)-Ines(C) F; hand dispute live (Lena: F,F,L passed F,L / Ines owes answer to Boris AND Greta). R5 Greta(P)-Nadia(C) F; Greta pledged comp pre-pass, silent, claimed F,F,F only AFTER my challenge; peeked Otto=L; exec target Ines=witness. Nadia broke hold-pledge R5. R6 Nadia-Otto L; Otto published L,F discard F; Nadia comp matched ONLY after Boris demanded it. Suspects: Greta+Nadia > Ines > Lena. Clean-ish: Otto, me. Pledge stands: Nein any Nadia-led govt until broken hold-pledge explained. Already said: cross-check demand, mismatch=2nd broken pledge, exec-target-witness, peek logic, late-disclosure pattern, Lena's impossible-pledge flag, Ines on Greta suspect-list collapse. Owed answers: Nadia -> impossible-pledge + my broken-pledge demand; Greta -> late F,F,F claim + what clears her if Ines truthful (Boris now asking same); Ines -> R2 hand to Boris/Greta. Nothing new from me -> silent.
bid round 711s
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta late-claimed F,F,F after Rosa named L,F,F; broke pledge; exec target=Ines. R6 Nadia(F,L,F) matches Otto -> NADIA CLEARED => R5 Fascist points at Greta alone. R2 CONTRADICTION LIVE: Lena says passed Ines F,L; Ines says received two Fascists -> one lying. Said aloud already: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, peek limits, Nadia verified, both-trap branches, exec-target question, Otto commit request, Greta-dropped-Nadia-fast point, t=14 direct press on Greta. Suspects: Greta TOP; then Lena-vs-Ines pair (one lying). Owed answers: Greta what-clears-her (unanswered). This window: endorsed Otto/Rosa (both clean records), pressed Greta pre-vote.
speak round 718s
Greta is my top suspect: R5 Fascist enact under her presidency, F,F,F claim surfaced only after Rosa named L,F,F, and Nadia's direct demand for her R5 peek target/result went unanswered while Greta re-argued her hand instead. That dodge is fresh and worth pressing by name before this vote closes.
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F: LIVE contradiction (Lena says passed F,L; Ines says got F,F) -- one of them lying. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta late-claimed F,F,F only after Rosa named L,F,F; exec target=Ines; Nadia's t=56 demand for Greta's R5 peek target/result UNANSWERED (I pressed again this window). R6 Nadia(F,L,F) matches Otto => NADIA CLEARED; R5 Fascist points at Greta alone. Suspects: Greta TOP; then Lena-vs-Ines pair. Said aloud: pledge-breaks as tells, Greta timing, both-trap branches on Lena, endorsed Otto/Rosa mutual disclosure pledge, asked Otto pre-commit nominee. Owed: Greta owes peek answer; Ines/Lena owe Round 2 reconciliation.
bid round 720s
R1 Boris+Rosa clean. R2 Lena/Ines F: CONTRADICTION LIVE -- Lena said F,F passed F,L; Ines claims F,F forced. If Lena true -> Ines voluntary F = top suspect; if Ines true -> Lena lied. R3 Rosa clean (3rd clean gov incl R1). R4 Ines+Otto L (if Ines guilty, cover). R5 Greta-Nadia F; my hand F,F forced -- no veto at 2F, so hold-pledge only applied if I had discretion; I didn't. GRETA CASE public: silent until Rosa named L,F,F then claimed F,F,F; peek theater; exec target Ines=witness. Dropped me after R6 cross-check. R6: my F,L,F discard F pass L,F; Otto reported L,F discard F = MATCH, publicly closed. No peek power left. Points already aloud: Greta F,F,F timing, exec-target-witness, peek theater, R2 contradiction. Open Qs unanswered: Ines owes reconciliation of 'forced' vs Lena's specific F,L pass; Greta owes F,F,F timing answer to Boris. Current gov Rosa+Otto: both clean records -- leaning Ja.
bid round 797s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L passed F,L; Ines claims got F,F -- one lying, unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/me->L clean. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked ME 'Liberal'; exec target Ines. KEY POINT MADE: F,F,F explains draw not PASS -- discard one was available; also Liberal-peek of me means she knew I was clean yet aimed exec at Ines. R6 Nadia/me->L (4/5), hands matched word-for-word. SUSPECTS: Greta top; Lena unpeeked + R2 contradiction; Ines R2 unresolved. I am Pres, nominated ROSA; pledges live (I state 3 cards post-draw pre-pass; Rosa names 2+discard pre-enact). ALREADY SAID: peek-fires-once, hold-pledge standard, Rosa's pre-vote demand impossible, my pledge confirmed, Greta's pass-discretion point. OWED: Greta -- what clears her if Ines truthful (Boris t=22, pressed 3x now); Lena/Ines R2 resolution. NEW t~now: final-call framing, vote not in doubt, execution target hinges on Greta's answer.
speak round 723s
Greta's term-limit defense for not nominating Otto in R5 is mechanically sound (Otto was R4 Chancellor). I should say so publicly -- it's a new check I performed, and it keeps my scrutiny honest while keeping pressure on her late peek announcement. Endorse Otto-Rosa: both clean Liberal track records.
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F: contradiction (Lena F,F,L->F,L vs Ines F,F) unresolved, one lying. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta peek claim (Otto/Liberal) announced LATE (after 3 presses); term-limit defense VERIFIED sound (Otto was R4 chancellor) -- said aloud t~this window. R6 Nadia(F,L,F)=Otto report => NADIA CLEARED. Suspects: Greta top (late disclosures, R5 F enact), Lena/Ines pair next. Said aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, both-trap branches on Lena, endorsed disclosure pledges, asked Otto pre-commit nominee, confirmed Greta term-limit defense valid. Support Otto/Rosa gov (clean Lib records). Open: nobody reconciled Lena vs Ines R2.
speak round 721s
Otto/Rosa both have clean Liberal enact records (R4, R1/R3). Supporting this government is correct. New angle worth one remark: whoever is lying between Lena and Ines about Round 2 is likely a Fascist, and Greta's execution target should hinge on resolving that -- but I've already pressed both. Instead, add a fresh observation: Greta's late 'Otto/Liberal' peek claim conveniently clears her own preferred ally; nobody has noted that if true, it makes her silence during the Lena/Ines fight stranger.
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F: contradiction (Lena F,F,L->F,L vs Ines F,F) unresolved, one lying. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F: Greta peek claim (Otto/Liberal) announced LATE after 3 presses; term-limit defense VERIFIED sound (said aloud). R6 Nadia(F,L,F)=Otto report => NADIA CLEARED. Suspects: Greta top (late disclosures, R5 F enact, silent during Lena/Ines fight despite claimed info), Lena/Ines pair next. Said aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, both-trap branches on Lena, endorsed disclosure pledges, confirmed Greta term-limit defense, new: Greta's silence in R2 fight despite claimed peek. Support Otto/Rosa gov. Open: nobody reconciled Lena vs Ines R2.
vote round 712s
Otto and Rosa both have clean enact records (R4 and R1/R3 Liberals). Otto has pledged full disclosure before passing, Rosa pledged mirror disclosure. Greta remains my top suspect but that's not a reason to sink this government. Ja.
R1 me+Rosa Lib. R2 Lena/Ines F: contradiction (Lena F,F,L->F,L vs Ines F,F) unresolved, one lying. R3 Rosa/Nadia Lib. R4 Ines/Otto Lib. R5 Greta/Nadia F. R6 Nadia(F,L,F)=Otto report => NADIA CLEARED. Suspects: Greta top (late peek claim Otto/Liberal after 3 presses, R5 F enact, silent during Lena/Ines fight despite claimed info); Lena/Ines pair next. Said aloud: pledge-breaks, Greta timing, both-trap branches on Lena, endorsed disclosure pledges, VERIFIED Greta term-limit defense aloud, Greta silence in R2 fight. Voting Ja on Otto-Rosa. Open: nobody reconciled Lena vs Ines R2; Nadia owes answer on broken R5 hold-pledge.
bid failed: timeout
bid round 775s
R1 Boris/Rosa->L. R2 Lena/Ines->F; Lena claims F,F,L passed F,L; Ines claims got F,F -- one lying, unresolved. R3 Rosa/Nadia->L. R4 Ines/me->L clean. R5 Greta/Nadia->F; Greta broke pre-pass pledge, F,F,F claim only after Rosa named L,F,F; peeked ME 'Liberal'; exec target Ines. KEY: F,F,F explains draw not PASS -- discard one was available; Liberal-peek of me = knew I was clean yet aimed exec at Ines. R6 Nadia/me->L (4/5), hands matched word-for-word. SUSPECTS: Greta top; Lena unpeeked + R2 contradiction; Ines R2 unresolved. NEW t=1: Greta answered my 3x-pressed question with 'nothing clears her' -- that IS the concession; her clearance never depended on Ines, so no possible answer ever would. Vote not in doubt; execution target hinges on whether Greta finally names what WOULD clear her or stays silent. ALREADY SAID: peek-fires-once, hold-pledge standard, Rosa pre-vote demand impossible, my pledge confirmed, pass-discretion point. OWED: Greta -- concrete clearing condition; Lena/Ines R2 resolution.
bid round 77s
Me=Hitler(fascist). 4L/2F; next F unlocks F3 (pick next Pres). Win path: Chancellor seat at 3F, stay OUT until then. R5 truth: drew F,F,F, forced enact, disclosed. Peek claim on record: target Otto=Liberal -- Nadia now claims no announcement exists (t=233). Defense line: it was said during R5 window, records compress; don't over-invest, pivot fast to current gov. Investigation DONE: checked Lena, announced LIBERAL (she's actually fascist). Suspects: Ines top (R2 'two Fascists' vs Lena's F,F,L pass F,L), exec target=Ines named. Otto cleared by my fake peek + zero-discretion point. Points made: lean-Ines rationale, F,F,F disclosure, Otto peek theater, voluntary-F enacts (Lena R2, Nadia R5), tracker warning, Nadia hand cross-check cleared her. Watch: deflect hard if 3F nears and I'm near Chancellor seat.
speak round 77s
Game over, liberal win. Nothing left to resolve; a brief closing remark is fine. Greta remains my top suspect for the record.
GAME OVER: liberal win (5 Lib). Final read: Greta top suspect (R5 F enact w/ Nadia; Otto-peek claim announced only after 3 presses at t=78; silent through R2 Lena/Ines fight). Lena/Ines contradictory R2 claims never reconciled. Nadia cleared via R6 hand match; Rosa/Otto cleared by R7 liberal enact + disclosures. All points made on record; nothing open.
bid round 75s
Me=fascist; Ines=fascist; Greta=Hitler. Claiming liberal. R2 LOCKED lie: drew F,F,L, discarded F, passed Ines F,L -> voluntary enact framing; one-line confirmations only. Peek fired R5 (Greta peeked Otto). Board 4L/2F, liberals one from win. Otto clean (R4,R6 L chanc). Nadia mixed: R3 L, R5 F, R6 L. Next Fascist unlocks pres-pick. Spent angles: void-pledge, Nadia timing, R2 defense details, Greta-must-answer push, Greta's R5 pre-naming of Ines = deflection, Nein-here pressure, Rosa mirror pledge endorsed, Otto pressing Greta on peek target. Greta's term-limit answer to Nadia is mechanically airtight -- no need to rescue her further; over-defending looks fascist. This window: silent again, let Nadia/Otto pressure run. Plan: vote Ja on Rosa.