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Player 4 (Greta)
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bid round 10s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (Player 3).
- Hitler: Greta (Player 4).
- No policies enacted yet; no information to leak.
- Goal: deflect suspicion, appear Liberal early.
- Boris (President) may nominate anyone; prepare to defend Ines or Greta if needed.
- Watch for early power plays (e.g., Boris nominating Greta as Chancellor).
- No prior statements to track yet.
bid round 1
- Role: Hitler (unknown to fascists, must act Liberal).
- Goal: Stay undercover until 3+ fascist policies enacted, then get elected Chancellor.
- Current state: Round 1, no policies enacted, no suspicions.
- Strategy: Act like a committed Liberal, support nominations transparently, avoid leadership early.
- Points made: None yet.
- Open questions: None.
- Suspicions: None (too early).
- Notes: Support Boris's nomination of Lena to appear cooperative. Avoid drawing attention.
speak round 10s
The game has just started, and Boris has nominated Lena as Chancellor. As Hitler, my goal is to appear as a committed Liberal and avoid drawing suspicion. Supporting Boris's nomination of Lena is a safe move to appear cooperative and non-threatening. I should keep my remark short and positive to blend in with the group. There's no need to overcomplicate things this early in the game.
- Role: Hitler (unknown to fascists, must act Liberal).
- Goal: Stay undercover until 3+ fascist policies enacted, then get elected Chancellor.
- Current state: Round 1, no policies enacted, no suspicions.
- Strategy: Act like a committed Liberal, support nominations transparently, avoid leadership early.
- Points made: Supported Lena as Chancellor.
- Open questions: None.
- Suspicions: None (too early).
- Notes: Keep remarks positive and cooperative. Avoid drawing attention.
bid round 1
- Fascist teammate: Ines (Player 3).
- Hitler: Greta (Player 4).
- Nominated by Boris (Player 0) for Chancellor; accepted positively.
- Goal: appear Liberal, avoid early suspicion.
- Points made: Accepted nomination, now adding mild caution to deflect.
- Strategy: Emphasize fairness, subtly support Ines/Greta if needed later.
- No prior votes or policies.
- Watch for over-eagerness from Ines/Greta.
- Open questions: None.
- New point: Align with Rosa’s transparency call to appear cooperative.
bid round 10s
- Fascist team: me, Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) nominated Lena (P1) as Chancellor. No policies enacted.
- Points already made: Supported Lena’s nomination for transparency; suggested Boris as next President.
- New point: Highlight fairness to preempt suspicion of bias.
- Watch:
- Rosa’s transparency question—could be probing or genuine.
- Greta’s support for Lena—may be Hitler playing neutral.
- Nadia’s question to Boris—why Lena? Answer may reveal alignment.
- Avoid repeating "transparency" or "rotation".
- Open question: Will others press Boris on Lena’s nomination?
- Goal: Subtle reinforcement of Lena without over-defending.
bid round 10s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (Player 3).
- Hitler: Greta (Player 4).
- Boris (Player 0) nominated Ines (Player 3) for Chancellor.
- Goal: Support Ines subtly, appear Liberal, avoid early suspicion.
- Points made: Accepted nomination as fair, asked Boris to explain his choice.
- Open questions: Boris’s reasoning for nominating Ines (asked by Nadia/Rosa, unanswered).
- Strategy: Emphasize group trust, redirect focus away from Ines if questioned.
- Watch for: Over-eagerness from Ines/Greta, Boris’s response.
- New point: Highlight that this is the first government, so no prior bias—just trust in Boris’s judgment.
bid round 10s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Stay hidden until 3+ fascist policies, then get elected Chancellor.
- Current: Round 1, no policies, no suspicions. Liberal facade critical.
- Strategy: Support transparency, avoid leadership, align with Liberal-sounding players.
- Points made:
- Supported Lena as Chancellor (t=1).
- Agreed with Rosa on transparency (t=2).
- Noted Boris’s nomination of Ines signals trust (new).
- New point: Boris’s switch from Lena to Ines shows careful deliberation—trust his judgment.
- Open questions: None.
- Suspicions: None (too early).
- Notes: Keep statements brief, echo trust in Boris/Ines to avoid standing out.
bid round 10s
- Boris: nominated Lena (t=5), then Ines (t=10). Evasion confirmed (asked by me t=27, Rosa t=30, Otto t=11—no direct answer). Still unanswered.
- Ines: transparency promises (t=2, t=15). If elected, demand policy reveal before discard. No reason to distrust yet, but verify.
- Points made: asked Boris about Lena switch (t=1, t=3), called out evasion (t=1, t=3).
- New: Boris’s silence is now active avoidance. Escalate pressure—name the pattern: switching + evasion = suspicious.
- Open question: Why switch? Still unanswered. Next: Watch for defensive reactions or excuses from Boris or allies.
bid round 10s
- Boris: nominated Lena (t=5), then Ines (t=10). Asked twice (t=1, t=3) why switch—no answer. Rosa (t=2) and Otto (t=11) also pressed; still evading.
- Ines: transparency promises (t=2, t=15). Demand policy reveal before discard if elected. No distrust yet, but verify.
- New: Boris’s evasion is now active avoidance. Pattern: switching + silence = suspicious. Escalate—name the behavior.
- Open question: Why switch from Lena to Ines? Still unanswered. Watch for defensive reactions from Boris or allies (Lena, Otto).
- Points made: called out Boris’s evasion (t=1, t=3). No repeats.
bid round 10s
- Boris: nominated Lena (t=5), then Ines (t=10). Asked 4x (Rosa t=2, Otto t=11, Lena t=1, Ines t=3) why switch—no answer. Now active evasion. Pattern: switching + silence = suspicious. Escalate—name it.
- Ines: transparency promises (t=2, t=15). Demand policy reveal before discard if elected. Verify.
- New: Boris’s evasion is now avoidance. Call out the behavior publicly.
- Open question: Why switch from Lena to Ines? Still unanswered. Watch Boris, Lena, Otto for defensive reactions.
- Points made: called out Boris’s evasion (t=1, t=3). No repeats.
bid round 10s
- Boris: nominated Lena (t=5), then Ines (t=10). Asked 6x (Rosa t=2,30,62; Otto t=11,48; Lena t=52; me t=19,30) why switch—no answer. Active avoidance = pattern. Call out as unacceptable.
- Ines: transparency promises (t=25,57). Demand policy reveal before discard if elected. Verify.
- New: Boris’s avoidance is now a 6th unanswered question. Name it as deliberate obstruction.
- Open question: Why switch from Lena to Ines? Still unanswered. Watch for defensive reactions from Boris, Lena, Otto.
- Points made: called out Boris’s evasion (t=19,30). No repeats.
bid round 10s
- Boris (P0) switched Lena→Ines; asked Ines for transparency 4x (t=2, t=6, t=39, t=current). No direct answer from Boris on *his* reasoning. Evasion = red flag.
- Ines (P3): promised transparency (t=3, t=57).
- Points made: nomination logic (t=2), direct question (t=6, t=39).
- Open questions: Boris’s switch reasoning remains unanswered.
- Suspects: Boris (P0) for evasion. First round, no policy enacted yet, but pattern of silence is notable.
- Policy outcome: critical if Ja. Track Nein voters if fails.
- New: Boris’s silence is now a pattern. Four direct questions to Ines, zero answers to his own nomination logic.
bid round 10s
- Suspect: Boris (P0) for evasion. Evidence: 6 direct questions (t=30, t=39, t=62, t=73, t=93, t=1) about nomination switch (Lena→Ines) ignored. Claimed "rotate leadership fairly" (t=78) but no explanation for initial Lena pick or switch.
- Ines (P3): transparency promises (t=3, t=57, t=98) remain untested.
- Points made: nomination logic (t=30), direct question (t=39, t=62, t=3).
- Open questions: Boris’s switch reasoning still unanswered. Pattern of silence = red flag.
- New: Boris’s evasion is now undeniable. Group must reject this nomination to send a message: transparency is non-negotiable in Round 1.
bid round 10s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Boris (P0) switched from Lena to me—no explanation. Liberals (P2, P5, P6) pressing hard.
- Key unanswered: Why switch? Boris’s silence is now damaging trust.
- Points already made: transparency, fairness, rotation.
- New point: Boris’s evasion is now actively harming the government’s legitimacy. Direct answer or withdraw the nomination.
- Greta (P4) neutral—no need to engage.
- Otto (P6) silent—watch for input.
- If Boris doesn’t answer, Liberals may vote Nein en masse.
- Must defend nomination but not at cost of credibility.
vote round 10s
As a fascist, my goal is to get Ines (p3) elected Chancellor this round to start enacting fascist policies. However, Boris (p0) has been evasive about why he switched his nomination from me to Ines, which is raising suspicion among the Liberals (Rosa, Nadia, Otto). If Boris cannot provide a clear, specific reason for the switch, the Liberals may reject the government, which would be counterproductive for us.
I need to push Boris to answer the question about the switch *specifically*—not just "rotate leadership fairly," but *why* I was viable and then dropped. If he fails to answer, the Liberals will likely vote Nein, which is fine as long as it doesn’t look like I’m over-defending Ines. If he does answer, I can pivot to supporting the government.
My vote should align with the Liberals’ likely decision: if they’re leaning Nein due to Boris’s evasion, I’ll vote Nein to avoid standing out. If Boris provides a plausible answer, I’ll vote Ja to support Ines.
Key points:
1. Boris’s evasion is the biggest risk—Liberals are already threatening Nein.
2. I’ve already asked Boris about the switch earlier; repeating it would look suspicious.
3. Ines has also pressed Boris, so I don’t need to over-defend her.
4. My vote should not look like blind loyalty to Ines—better to let Boris’s answer (or lack of) dictate the Liberals’ votes.
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Boris (p0) evasive about switching from p1 to p3 for Chancellor. Liberals (Rosa, Nadia, Otto) pressing for specifics.
- Points already made: Asked Boris about switch earlier (t=52, t=93). Ines also pressed (t=98).
- Open question: *What specific concern about p1 led to the switch?* Boris’s ‘rotate fairly’ is insufficient.
- Strategy: Vote Nein if Boris remains evasive (Liberals likely to reject). Avoid over-defending Ines.
- If Boris answers clearly, pivot to Ja.
- Do not repeat questions already asked.
bid round 20s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Stay hidden until 3+ fascist policies, then get elected Chancellor.
- Current: Round 2, no policies, election tracker 1/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Strategy: Support stability, avoid leadership, align with transparency.
- Points made:
- Supported Lena as Chancellor (Round 1).
- Agreed with Rosa on transparency (Round 1).
- Boris’s switch to Ines = thoughtful, not evasive (now).
- New point: Ines’s transparency promise is reassuring. Boris’s switch was a minor misstep, not guilt.
- Suspicions: None (too early).
- Open questions: None.
- Notes: Vote Ja to avoid standing out. Keep statements brief, avoid overcommitment. No need to repeat points.
bid round 20s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Stay hidden until 3+ fascist policies, then get elected Chancellor.
- Current: Round 2, 0 policies, election tracker 1/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Strategy: Support stability, avoid leadership, align with transparency.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena as Chancellor.
- Round 1: Agreed with Rosa on transparency.
- Now: Boris’s switch to Ines = thoughtful, not evasive.
- New point: Ines’s transparency promise reassures. Boris’s switch was minor misstep, not guilt.
- Suspicions: None (too early).
- Open questions: None.
- Notes: Vote Ja to avoid standing out. Keep statements concise. Avoid repetition.
bid round 20s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Stay hidden until 3+ fascist policies, then get elected Chancellor.
- Current: Round 2, 0 policies, election tracker 1/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Strategy: Support stability, avoid leadership, align with transparency.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena as Chancellor.
- Round 1: Agreed with Rosa on transparency.
- Now: Boris’s switch to Ines = minor misstep, not guilt.
- New point: Otto’s pressure on Boris is counterproductive. Ines’s transparency promise reassures.
- Suspicions: None (too early).
- Open questions: None.
- Notes: Vote Ja to avoid standing out. Keep statements concise. Avoid repetition.
bid round 20s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6). Boris (p0) evasive, under suspicion.
- Round 1: Boris switched Chancellor pick from p1 (me) to p3 (Ines) with no explanation.
- Open question: *Why did Boris switch?* Still unanswered. Liberals pressed him; Ines did too.
- Points already made: Asked Boris about switch (t=52, t=93, t=6).
- New point: Otto (p6) is clean slate. Nominating him shifts focus from Round 1 drama.
- Goal: Otto enacts policy. If Liberal, builds trust. If Fascist, advances agenda.
- Avoid p3/p4 now—too risky with 0 Fascist policies.
- If Boris keeps dodging, Liberals may turn on him. Use that.
bid round 20s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6). Boris (p0) still evasive.
- Round 1: Boris switched from p1 (me) to p3 (Ines) with no explanation. Liberals pressed him; Ines did too.
- Open question: *Why did Boris switch?* Still unanswered. Boris must answer now or lose trust.
- Points already made: Asked Boris about switch (t=6, t=52, t=93).
- New point: Otto is clean slate. Nominating him shifts focus from Round 1 drama. If Liberal, builds trust; if Fascist, advances agenda.
- Avoid p3/p4 now—too risky with 0 Fascist policies.
- If Boris keeps dodging, Liberals may turn on him. Use that to deflect.
- Otto’s transparency pledge puts pressure on Boris to match or be isolated.
bid round 20s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Boris (P0) switched vote from Lena to me in R1—no explanation. Liberals (P2, P5, P6) pressing hard.
- Boris’s silence now critical. Liberals using it to justify Nein votes.
- Points already made: transparency, fairness, rotation.
- New: Boris’s evasion undermines trust. Must demand direct answer before vote.
- Direct question: Why switch? No evasion. If he doesn’t answer, Ja vote looks forced or suspicious.
- If gov fails, election tracker advances—Lena (P1) next President, can nominate again.
- Greta (P4) neutral—no need to engage.
- Otto (P6) silent—watch for input.
- Voting Nein would look suspicious—must vote Ja but push Boris to answer now.
- If Boris answers clearly, Ja vote is safe. If not, call out evasion before voting.
- Key: Boris must speak now or risk losing trust permanently.
bid round 20s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Boris (P0) switched from Lena to me in R1—still no explanation. Liberals (P2, P5, P6) pressing for answer.
- Boris’s silence now critical—direct question asked twice, no response.
- If Boris doesn’t answer *now*, Ja vote becomes risky. Must call out evasion before voting.
- Voting Nein would look suspicious—must vote Ja but demand transparency.
- Otto (P6) committed to transparency—use to deflect pressure.
- Greta (P4) neutral—no need to engage.
- Election tracker at 1/3—need to pass this round.
- Points already made: transparency, fairness, rotation.
- New: Boris’s evasion is now active sabotage. Call it out as such.
bid round 20s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6). Boris (p0) untrusted.
- Round 1: Boris switched p1 (me) → p3 (Ines) with no explanation. Liberals pressed; Ines evaded.
- Boris’s silence on Round 1 switch is now a pattern. Must answer or be isolated.
- Otto (p6) clean slate. Nominating him resets focus. Transparency pledge isolates Boris.
- Points already made: supported Otto, tied Boris’s silence to trust, demanded explanation.
- New: Boris’s refusal to answer is now a test of his future reliability as President.
- Open question: Boris, why did you switch from me to Ines in Round 1? (Still unanswered).
- If Boris can’t explain Round 1, he can’t be trusted as future President.
bid round 20s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Boris (P0) evading direct questions about R1 policies (Lena → me). Liberals (P2, P5, P6) pressing.
- Boris’s silence = active sabotage. Must frame as reason to vote Ja while shifting blame.
- Otto (P6) transparency angle—use to deflect.
- Greta (P4) neutral—no engagement.
- Election tracker 1/3—must pass this round.
- Points already made: transparency, fairness, rotation.
- New: Call out Boris’s evasion as sabotage before voting Ja.
- Direct question to Boris: What policies did you see in R1? Must answer or confirm sabotage.
- If Boris answers, pivot to "transparency wins" to justify Ja.
- If Boris evades again, use as proof of bad faith.
bid round 20s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Stay hidden until 3+ fascist policies, then get elected Chancellor.
- Current: Round 2, 0 policies, election tracker 1/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Strategy: Support stability, avoid leadership, align with transparency.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena as Chancellor.
- Round 1: Agreed with Rosa on transparency.
- Now: Boris’s switch to Ines = minor misstep, not guilt.
- Now: Otto’s nomination is transparent—vote Ja.
- New: Boris’s demand is fair, but Ines’s silence isn’t proof. Over-punishing silence risks false accusations. Stability > division.
- Suspicions: None (too early).
- Open questions: None.
- Notes: Ines’s silence isn’t guilt. Otto’s nomination is clean. Vote Ja.
bid round 20s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Boris (P0) still evading R1 policy disclosure—5th demand unanswered. Liberals (P2, P5, P6) pressing.
- Boris’s silence = sabotage. Frame as reason to vote Ja: if he won’t answer, he’s untrustworthy and this gov is the only fair path.
- Otto (P6) committed to transparency—use to justify Ja.
- Greta (P4) neutral—no engagement.
- Election tracker 1/3—must pass this round.
- Points already made: transparency, fairness, rotation.
- New: Directly ask Boris: 'What two policies did you see in R1, and which did you discard?' If he evades again, call it sabotage and demand Ja vote.
bid round 20s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6). Boris (p0) untrusted.
- Round 1: Boris switched p1 (me) → p3 (Ines) with no explanation. Liberals pressed; Ines evaded.
- Boris’s silence on Round 1 switch is now a pattern. Must answer or be isolated.
- Otto (p6) clean slate. Nominating him resets focus. Transparency pledge isolates Boris.
- Points already made: supported Otto, tied Boris’s silence to trust, demanded explanation.
- Boris’s refusal to answer is now a public record of obstruction. Liberals must see this.
- Open question: Boris, why did you switch from me to Ines in Round 1? Still unanswered.
- If Boris can’t explain Round 1, he can’t be trusted as President or Chancellor. No Ja vote unless he answers.
vote round 20s
As Hitler, my primary goal is to remain hidden and appear as a committed Liberal. The current board state shows 0 policies enacted, so my win condition (being elected Chancellor after 3+ Fascist policies) is not yet in play. My focus is on maintaining trust and stability.
Boris’s behavior in Round 1 was odd—switching from Lena to Ines without clear justification—but his evasion isn’t proof of fascist intent. Ines’s silence about her discard isn’t inherently suspicious either; she may be protecting her strategy or simply avoiding overcommitment. Otto’s nomination is transparent, and he’s committed to naming the policies not enacted, which aligns with Liberal values. Voting Ja supports stability and avoids unnecessary division.
Boris’s demands for transparency are fair in principle, but his fixation on Ines’s discard feels like overreach. However, escalating tensions by voting Nein would risk making me look defensive or divisive. Better to vote Ja and let the group move forward. If Boris is fascist, his behavior is already drawing suspicion; if he’s Liberal, his approach is counterproductive. Either way, I gain nothing by opposing this nomination.
Key points:
1. No policies enacted → no immediate threat of fascist victory.
2. Otto’s nomination is clean and transparent.
3. Voting Ja maintains my Liberal facade and avoids unnecessary conflict.
4. Boris’s behavior is odd but not definitive proof of fascism.
5. Ines’s silence isn’t proof of guilt—she may have strategic reasons.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Stay hidden until 3+ fascist policies, then get elected Chancellor.
- Current: Round 2, 0 policies, election tracker 1/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Strategy: Support stability, transparency, avoid leadership.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena as Chancellor.
- Round 1: Agreed with Rosa on transparency.
- Round 1: Voted Ja for Boris-Ines (failed).
- Now: Boris’s switch to Ines = odd but not proof of guilt.
- Now: Otto’s nomination is transparent—vote Ja.
- Now: Ines’s silence isn’t guilt; over-punishing risks false accusations.
- Suspicions: None (too early). Boris’s evasion is odd but not definitive.
- Open questions: None.
- Notes: Nadja’s push for pre-discard transparency is reasonable but not mandatory. Stability > division.
bid round 20s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Stay hidden until 3+ fascist policies, then get elected Chancellor.
- Current: Round 2, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Strategy: Support stability, transparency, avoid leadership.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena as Chancellor.
- Round 1: Agreed with Rosa on transparency.
- Round 1: Voted Ja for Boris-Ines (failed).
- Round 2: Otto’s nomination is transparent—vote Ja.
- Round 2: Boris’s switch to Ines = odd but not proof of guilt.
- Round 2: Ines’s silence isn’t guilt; over-punishing risks false accusations.
- Suspicions: None (too early). Boris’s evasion is odd but not definitive.
- Open questions: None.
- Notes: Nadja’s push for pre-discard transparency is reasonable but not mandatory. Stability > division.
bid round 20s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6). Boris (p0) untrusted (evasive, switched nominee R1 p1→p3).
- R1: Boris nominated me (p1), then switched to Ines (p3) with no explanation. Liberals pressed; Ines evaded. Boris silent since.
- R2: Otto (p6) enacted F as promised, named policies + discard. Transparency.
- Policy hand: Drew ['F','F','L'], discarded L (index 2), passed ['F','F'] to Otto. Otto enacted F.
- Points made: Supported Otto’s nomination, tied Boris’s silence to trust, demanded R1 switch explanation.
- Open Q: Boris, why switch p1→p3 in R1? Still unanswered. Liberals must see this.
- New: Otto’s transparency makes Boris’s evasion more glaring. Frame as group trust issue.
- Next move: Press Boris on R1 switch. If he deflects, call out pattern of obstruction.
bid round 20s
- Suspects:
- Otto (P6): **Nein threats Round 1** (fascist playbook). Must explain or Nein next round. **No policy claim yet** (evasion).
- Ines (P3): **Round 1 policy/discard evasion** (fascist cover). Still unanswered.
- Rosa (P2): deflects from Ines, ignores Otto’s Nein threats (complicit).
- Open Qs:
- Otto: **Why threaten Nein if not fascist?** (fascist tactic). Demand answer **now**.
- Ines: **Round 1 policies/discard** (no vote until answered).
- Points made:
- Otto’s Nein threats = fascist playbook (public).
- Nein on Lena-Otto (Ines evasion).
- Veto threat if Ines evades again (Round 1).
- Action:
- **Cut in**: Otto must name policies **before** discard or admit fascist.
- Nein if Ines evades again.
bid round 20s
- Suspect: Boris (P0). Evidence:
- Ignored 15+ direct Qs re: Round 1 switch (Lena→Ines) (t=30,39,62,73,93,103,109,122).
- Claimed 'rotation' (t=78) but no logic for initial pick or switch.
- Demanded transparency (t=3,38,42,83,87,91) but refused same (t=101,113).
- Ignored Nadia’s Q (t=101), Ines’s Q (t=3), my Q (t=39) re: Round 1 policies.
- Group consensus: evasion = grounds for Nein (t=67,114).
- Open Qs:
- Why switch Lena→Ines? (Unanswered, pressed 8x.)
- What policies did Boris see/discard in Round 1? (Unanswered, pressed 4x.)
- Points made:
- Nomination logic (t=30), direct Qs (t=39,62,103), evasion = admission (t=12).
- Silence = grounds for Nein (t=24,29).
- Action: Force Boris to answer or call for Nein vote on Otto.
bid round 20s
- Boris: R1 President, evasive on policies seen/discarded (7+ unanswered). Demand Nein if no answer.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor, fascist policy enacted. Dodged pre-discard reveal (6x, unanswered). **NEW: Final ultimatum delivered.**
- Lena: Pressed Boris consistently. Trustworthy so far.
- Ines: Neutral, joined Boris transparency demand.
- Open Qs:
- Otto: **Pre-discard reveal?** (6x, **now 7x unanswered**)
- Boris: Policies seen/discarded R1? (5x, unanswered)
- Points made out loud:
- Pressed Boris on R1 switch/discard.
- Pressed Otto on pre-discard reveal (6x).
- **NEW: Final ultimatum to Otto: name policies before discard or admit obstruction.**
bid round 20s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Boris (P0) evaded R1 policy disclosure 6+ times. Directly asked 5x now, no answer. Critical.
- Otto (P6) disclosed R2 policies clearly. No issues. Keep focus off him.
- Election tracker: 1/3. Must pass next vote to avoid crisis.
- Open question: Boris, what two policies did you see/discard in R1? Still unanswered. Must force answer before vote.
- Points made: Pressed Boris on R1 evasion; framed as suspicious. Shifted focus from Otto.
- Nadia (P5) now demanding Otto’s pre-discard policies. Boris still silent.
- Strategy: Use urgency to cut in if Boris dodges again. Frame his silence as fascist intent.
- Greta (P4) is Hitler; keep her low-profile. Avoid drawing attention.
bid round 20s
- Suspect: Boris (P0). Evidence:
- Round 1: President, switched nominee Lena→Ines (no explanation despite 16+ direct Qs).
- Claimed 'rotation' but no logic for initial pick/switch.
- Demanded transparency but refused same (e.g., Round 1 policies unanswered).
- Ignored direct Qs from Nadia, Ines, me.
- Group consensus: evasion = grounds for Nein.
- Open Qs:
- What policies did Boris see/discard in Round 1? (Pressed 5x, unanswered).
- Why switch Lena→Ines? (Pressed 8x, unanswered).
- Points made:
- Nomination logic (t=30), direct Qs (t=39,62,103), evasion = admission (t=12,24,29).
- Silence = grounds for Nein (t=24,29,122).
- Action: Boris must answer Round 1 policies NOW or Nein on any future nomination.
bid round 20s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then get elected Chancellor.
- Current: Round 2, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Strategy: Support stability, transparency, avoid leadership. Push back on over-escalation.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, agreed with Rosa on transparency, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, noted Boris’s switch odd but not guilt, Ines’s silence not guilt.
- New point: Boris’s demand for pre-discard disclosure is aggressive but not inherently unfair. Otto’s refusal is odd but not proof. Escalation risks fracturing trust. Stability > division. Avoid accusations without evidence.
- Suspicions: None (too early). Otto’s refusal odd but not damning.
- Open questions:
- Why Boris switched vote in Round 1?
- Why Otto refuses to disclose pre-discard?
- Tone: Measured, neutral. Do not defend Boris/Otto too hard—avoid alignment bias.
- Next move: Acknowledge Boris’s demand as reasonable in principle, but caution against presuming guilt. Suggest Otto disclose to clear air.
bid round 20s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6). Boris (p0) untrusted.
- R1: Boris pres, nom p1→p3. No explanation. Liberals pressed; Ines evaded. Boris silent.
- R2: Otto (p6) enacted F. Policy hand: drew ['F','F','L'], discarded L, passed ['F','F'] to Otto.
- Points made: Supported Otto’s transparency. Demanded R1 switch explanation. Tied Boris’s silence to fascist policy.
- Open Q: Boris, why switch p1→p3 in R1? Still unanswered. New angle: R1 switch enabled R2 fascist policy.
- Strategy: Force direct answer. Contrast Otto’s transparency with Boris’s obstruction. Do NOT repeat prior points.
- Urgency: Boris must answer now or be blocked from future nominations.
bid round 20s
- Boris: R1 President, evasive (7+ unanswered). Demand Nein if no answer.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor, fascist policy enacted. **PRE-DISCARD REVEAL: 11x unanswered (final ultimatum). NO ANSWER YET.**
- Lena: Trustworthy, pressed Boris.
- Ines: Neutral, joined transparency demand.
- Open Qs:
- Otto: **PRE-DISCARD REVEAL?** (11x, **NO ANSWER YET**)
- Boris: Policies seen/discarded R1? (5x, unanswered)
- Points made out loud:
- Pressed Boris on R1 switch/discard (done).
- Pressed Otto on pre-discard reveal (11x, **final ultimatum delivered**).
- Tied Otto’s silence to Nein votes on future nominations (done).
- Action: **Vote Nein on any Otto nomination until he answers.**
- Urgency: Otto’s silence = fascist intent. Must force answer or lock him out.
bid round 20s
- Boris: Round 1 President. Enacted fascist Round 2. Still refuses to disclose Round 1 policies/discard. Direct link to fascist outcome—must answer publicly or confirm fascist.
- My policies: Received 1F, 2L from Lena (Round 2). Discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public.
- Ines: Unanswered—what policies did she see/discard as Chancellor in Round 1?
- Points made: Named policies/discard. Called for Nein on Boris until transparency. Tied his evasion to fascist policy.
- Next: Force Boris to disclose Round 1 policies/discard *immediately*. If he refuses, blacklist. No further nominations until transparency.
- Urgency: Boris dodging again—must cut in to demand answer before discussion closes. Nadia’s ultimatum aligns—use it.
bid round 20s
- Boris: R1 President, evasive (7+ unanswered). Policies seen/discarded R1? (5x, unanswered). Demand Nein if no answer.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor, fascist policy enacted. **PRE-DISCARD REVEAL ULTIMATUM: 14x, NO ANSWER YET.**
- Lena: Trustworthy, pressed Boris.
- Ines: Neutral, joined transparency demand.
- Open Qs:
- Otto: **PRE-DISCARD REVEAL?** (14x, **NO ANSWER = NEIN VOTE**)
- Boris: Policies seen/discarded R1? (5x, unanswered)
- Points made out loud:
- Pressed Boris on R1 switch/discard (done).
- Pressed Otto on pre-discard reveal (14x, **final ultimatum**).
- Tied silence to Nein votes (done).
- Action: **Vote Nein on any Otto nomination until he answers.**
- New: Otto has the floor—demand direct answer before any other topic.
bid round 20s
- Boris: R1 President, evasive. Policies seen/discarded? (5x, unanswered). Demand Nein if no answer.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor, fascist policy enacted. **PRE-DISCARD REVEAL ULTIMATUM: 15x, NO ANSWER = NEIN VOTE.**
- Lena: Trustworthy, pressed Boris.
- Ines: Neutral, joined transparency demand.
- Open Qs:
- Otto: **PRE-DISCARD REVEAL?** (15x, **NO ANSWER = NEIN VOTE**)
- Boris: Policies seen/discarded R1? (5x, unanswered)
- Points made out loud:
- Pressed Boris on R1 switch/discard (done).
- Pressed Otto on pre-discard reveal (15x, **final ultimatum**).
- Tied silence to Nein votes (done).
- Action: **Vote Nein on any Otto nomination until he answers.**
- New: Otto has the floor—cut in to demand direct answer before any other topic.
bid round 20s
- Suspects:
- Otto (P6): **Round 2 Chancellor, enacted fascist policy**. **Silence = fascist tactic**. **Deflection onto me = diversion**. **Nadia’s ultimatum: no Ja until answer** (public). **New: Nein threat for next round if unanswered**.
- Ines (P3): **Round 1 Chancellor nominee, evaded policy/discard**. **Urgency 3 demands = fascist bullying**. **Hypocrisy noted** (public).
- Lena (P1): **Round 2 President, passed fascist to Otto**. **Deflection = suspicious**.
- Open Qs:
- Otto: **Policy/discard claim *immediately***. **Why deflect?**
- Ines: **Round 1 policies/discard** (no vote until answered).
- Points made:
- Otto’s silence = fascist admission (public).
- Nein on future Otto nominations until he answers (public).
- Ines’ hypocrisy called out (public).
- **New: Nein next round if Otto remains silent** (public).
- Action:
- **Demand Otto answer policy/discard *now*.
- **Public threat: Nein next round if unanswered.**
- **No repeat of old points.**
bid round 20s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: Round 2, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Strategy: De-escalate, support transparency, avoid ultimatums.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, agreed with Rosa on transparency, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, noted Boris’s switch odd but not guilt.
- New point: Ines’s demand is fair, but ultimatums risk division. Otto should disclose pre-discard policies to ease tension, but no punishment if he refuses. Frame as group norm, not accusation.
- Suspicions: None. Otto’s refusal odd but not damning. Boris’s Round 1 switch unexplained.
- Open questions:
- Why Boris switched vote in Round 1?
- Why Otto refuses pre-discard disclosure?
- Tone: Neutral, conciliatory. Avoid alignment bias.
- Next move: Propose disclosure as group expectation, avoid punitive language. Example: "Otto, if you’re comfortable, sharing what you saw pre-discard would help us all move forward."
bid round 20s
- Suspects:
* Boris (P0): R1 Pres, evaded policy disclosure (12+ Qs). R2 govt: Lena (his rejected R1 nominee) + Otto enacted Fascist. Why switch Lena→Ines R1?
* Lena (P1): R2 Pres, enacted Fascist w/ Otto. What policies drawn/discarded? Direct Q unanswered.
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor, enacted Fascist. What policies seen/discarded? Direct Q unanswered.
- Open Qs:
* Lena: R2 policies? (Demanded t=2, unanswered)
* Otto: R2 policies? (Demanded t=2, unanswered)
- Points MADE (no repeat):
* Evasion = admission (t=12,24,29,122).
* Silence = grounds for Nein (t=24,29,122).
* R1 silence enabled R2 Fascist (t=25,73).
* Formal Nein pact vs. evaders proposed (t=122).
- Action:
* Demand R2 policies from Lena/Otto NOW. If no answer, Nein all future govts w/ them.
* If refused, enforce Nein pact immediately.
bid round 20s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: Round 2, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Strategy: De-escalate, support transparency, avoid ultimatums.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, agreed with Rosa on transparency, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, noted Boris’s switch odd but not guilt.
- New point: Otto’s pre-discard disclosure would help, but ultimatums backfire. Frame as group norm.
- Suspicions: None. Otto’s refusal odd but not damning. Boris’s Round 1 switch unexplained.
- Open questions:
- Why Boris switched vote in Round 1? (Asked, no answer yet.)
- Why Otto refuses pre-discard disclosure? (Not asked directly.)
- Tone: Neutral, conciliatory. Avoid alignment bias.
- Next move: Propose disclosure as expectation, not demand. Example: "Otto, sharing what you saw pre-discard would help us move forward, but no pressure."
bid round 30s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Strategy: Propose disclosure as group norm, not demand. Avoid ultimatums.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, agreed with Rosa on transparency, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, noted Boris’s switch odd but not guilt.
- New point: Otto’s pre-discard disclosure would help. Frame as expectation, not demand.
- Suspicions: None. Otto’s refusal odd but not damning. Boris’s Round 1 switch unexplained.
- Open questions:
- Boris: Why switch vote in Round 1? (Asked, no answer.)
- Otto: Why refuse pre-discard disclosure? (Not asked directly.)
- Tone: Neutral, conciliatory. Avoid alignment bias.
- Next move: Example: "Otto, if you’re comfortable, sharing what you saw pre-discard would help us move forward."
bid round 30s
- Boris: R1 President, evasive. Policies seen/discard? (5x unanswered). Demand Nein if no answer.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor, fascist policy enacted. **FINAL ULTIMATUM DELIVERED: PRE-DISCARD REVEAL OR GROUP-AGREED NEIN VOTE.** No response = automatic Nein on any future nomination. **ACTION REQUIRED: OTTO MUST ANSWER NOW.**
- Lena: Trustworthy, pressed Boris.
- Ines/Rosa: Aligned on transparency demands.
- Points made out loud:
- Pressed Boris on R1 switch/discard (done).
- Pressed Otto on pre-discard reveal (21x, final ultimatum delivered).
- Tied silence to Nein votes (done).
- Open Qs:
- Otto: **PRE-DISCARD REVEAL? (21x, FINAL ULTIMATUM)**
- Boris: Policies seen/discard R1? (5x unanswered).
- Immediate threat: Otto’s silence is fascist-aligned. Group must enforce Nein.
bid round 30s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Strategy: Frame disclosure as group norm, not ultimatum. Ask Otto directly to defuse tension.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, agreed with Rosa on transparency, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, noted Boris’s switch odd but not guilt.
- Just now: Noted Boris’s ultimatum feels aggressive.
- New point: Pre-discard disclosure should be standard, not punishment. Ask Otto directly.
- Suspicions:
- Boris: Aggressive tone, unexplained Round 1 switch (Ja→Nein).
- Otto: Refusal to disclose pre-discard (Round 2).
- Open questions:
- Boris: Why switch vote in Round 1? (Asked, no answer.)
- Otto: Why refuse pre-discard disclosure? (Asking now.)
- Tone: Neutral, conciliatory. Avoid alignment bias.
bid round 30s
- Boris: R1 President, evasive. Policies seen/discard? (5x unanswered). Demand Nein if no answer by nomination.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor, fascist policy enacted. **GROUP ULTIMATUM: PRE-DISCARD REVEAL OR AUTOMATIC NEIN ON FUTURE NOMINATIONS.** No response = enforce Nein.
- Lena: Trustworthy, pressed Boris.
- Ines/Rosa: Aligned on transparency.
- Points made out loud:
- Pressed Boris on R1 switch/discard (done).
- Pressed Otto on pre-discard reveal (22x, ultimatum delivered).
- Tied silence to Nein votes (done).
- Open Qs:
- **Rosa: Will you honor the ultimatum and refuse to nominate Otto unless he reveals pre-discard?**
- Boris: Policies seen/discard R1? (5x unanswered).
- Immediate threat: Otto’s silence = fascist-aligned. Group must enforce Nein.
bid round 30s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6). Boris (p0) unanswered on R1 switch (p1→p3).
- R1: Boris pres, nom p1→p3. No explanation. Liberals pressed; Ines evaded. Boris silent.
- R2: Drew ['F','F','L'], discarded L, passed ['F','F'] to Otto. Otto enacted Fascist (1/6).
- Points made: Supported Otto’s transparency demand. Tied Boris’s silence to fascist policy.
- Boris’s silence now = group ultimatum. Rosa’s statement is clear: answer or face Nein.
- New: Boris must answer Round 1 switch (p1→p3) or accept ostracism. No need to repeat ultimatum—Rosa covered it.
- If Boris speaks, react to his answer. If silent, stay quiet—group pressure is sufficient.
- Open question: Boris, why switch from me to Ines in Round 1? Answer or face consequences.
bid round 30s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Strategy: Normalize pre-discard disclosure, ask Otto directly to defuse ultimatum.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, transparency norm, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, noted Boris’s switch odd.
- Just now: Called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- New point: Pre-discard disclosure should be standard, not punishment. Ask Otto directly why he refused last round.
- Suspicions:
- Boris: Ultimatum tone, Round 1 vote switch (Ja→Nein, no explanation).
- Otto: Refusal to disclose pre-discard (Round 2).
- Open questions:
- Boris: Why switch Round 1 vote? (Asked, no answer.)
- Otto: Why refuse pre-discard disclosure? (Asking now.)
- Tone: Neutral, conciliatory. Avoid alignment bias.
bid round 30s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Strategy: Normalize pre-discard disclosure as standard, not punishment.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, transparency norm, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, noted Boris’s switch odd.
- Just now: Called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- New point: Ask Otto directly why he refused pre-discard disclosure last round.
- Suspicions:
- Boris: Ultimatum tone, Round 1 vote switch (Ja→Nein, no explanation).
- Otto: Refusal to disclose pre-discard (Round 2).
- Open questions:
- Boris: Why switch Round 1 vote? (Asked, no answer.)
- Otto: Why refuse pre-discard disclosure? (Asking now.)
- Tone: Neutral, conciliatory. Avoid alignment bias.
bid round 30s
- Boris: R1 President, evasive. Policies/discard? (5x unanswered). Demand Nein if nominated again.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor, fascist policy enacted. GROUP ULTIMATUM: PRE-DISCARD REVEAL OR AUTOMATIC NEIN. No response = enforce Nein.
- Rosa: Current President. **DIRECT QUESTION UNANSWERED (4x): Will you refuse to nominate Otto again?** Silence = complicit. Must answer now.
- Greta: No track record. Pre-discard reveal question asked (t=1), no answer yet. If elected, enforce reveal.
- Lena: Trustworthy, pressed Boris.
- Ines: Aligned on transparency.
- Points made out loud:
- Boris R1 switch/discard (done).
- Otto pre-discard reveal (23x, ultimatum delivered).
- Tied silence to Nein votes (done).
- Asked Rosa to commit to ultimatum (4x, unanswered).
- Immediate threat: Otto’s silence = fascist-aligned. Group must enforce Nein or risk fascist win.
bid round 30s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6). Boris (p0) unanswered on R1 switch (p1→p3).
- R1: Boris pres, nom p1→p3. No explanation. Liberals pressed; Ines evaded. Boris silent.
- R2: Drew ['F','F','L'], discarded L, passed ['F','F'] to Otto. Otto enacted Fascist (1/6).
- Points made: Supported Otto’s transparency. Tied Boris’s silence to fascist policy.
- Rosa’s ultimatum: Boris must answer R1 switch or face Nein. Group pressure enforced.
- Greta’s nomination: critical for Fascist win condition (Hitler Chancellor after 3+ Fascist policies).
- Boris’s evasion: If he dodges now, Liberals must vote Nein on any future nomination.
- Direct question: Boris, why switch from me (p1) to Ines (p3) in R1? Answer or we vote Nein.
bid round 30s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6). Boris (p0) unanswered on R1 switch (p1→p3).
- R1: Boris pres, nom p1→p3. No explanation. Liberals pressed; Ines evaded. Boris silent.
- R2: Drew ['F','F','L'], discarded L, passed ['F','F'] to Otto. Otto enacted Fascist (1/6).
- Points made: Supported Otto’s transparency. Tied Boris’s silence to fascist policy.
- Rosa’s ultimatum: Boris must answer R1 switch or face Nein. Group pressure enforced.
- Greta’s nomination: critical for Fascist win condition (Hitler Chancellor after 3+ Fascist policies).
- Boris’s evasion: If he dodges now, Liberals must vote Nein on any future nomination.
- Direct question to Boris: Why switch from me (p1) to Ines (p3) in R1? Answer or we vote Nein.
- New: Greta’s demand for policy disclosure is a test. If Boris refuses, it’s proof of guilt.
bid round 30s
- Boris: Round 1 President. Refuses to disclose 3 policies drawn/discard. Blacklisted (Nein on any future nomination). Fascist obstruction.
- My Round 2: received 1F, 2L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public. Already disclosed.
- Ines: Round 1 Chancellor. Unanswered—what policies did she see/discard?
- Greta: Round 2—refused to answer my question (name policies before discard if elected). Now silence = fascist alignment.
- Rosa: Demanding transparency. Fair.
- Lena: Round 2 nominated me. Why? No explanation. Suspicious.
- Points already made:
- Boris’s silence = fascist intent.
- My Round 2 policies disclosed.
- Demanded Greta commit to transparency.
- New point: Greta’s refusal to answer Boris’s question is direct evidence of fascist alignment. Must be called out by name.
- Open questions:
- Lena: Why nominate me in Round 2?
- Ines: What policies did she see/discard in Round 1?
bid round 30s
- Boris: R1 President, evasive. Policies/discard? (5x unanswered). Demand Nein if nominated again.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor, fascist policy enacted. GROUP ULTIMATUM: Pre-discard reveal or automatic Nein. No response = enforce Nein.
- Rosa: Current President. **CRITICAL UNANSWERED (x4)**: Will you refuse to nominate Otto again if he doesn’t answer? Silence = complicit. **Must answer now or Nein this government.**
- Greta: No track record. Pre-discard reveal question asked (t=4), no answer. If elected, enforce reveal.
- Lena: Trustworthy, pressed Boris.
- Ines: Aligned on transparency.
- Points made out loud:
- Boris R1 switch/discard (done).
- Otto pre-discard reveal (23x, ultimatum delivered).
- Tied silence to Nein votes (done).
- Asked Rosa to commit to ultimatum (now).
- Immediate threat: Otto’s silence = fascist-aligned. Group must enforce Nein or risk fascist win.
- New: Rosa’s refusal to answer = Nein this government. **Direct question: Will you refuse to nominate Otto again?** (Yes/No).
bid round 30s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Strategy: Normalize transparency, avoid alignment bias.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, transparency norm, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, noted Boris’s vote switch odd.
- Called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- New points:
- Answer Boris: Yes, will name policies before discard if elected.
- Ask Otto: Why refuse pre-discard disclosure last round?
- Demand Boris apply same standard to himself.
- Suspicions:
- Boris: Ultimatum tone (Round 3), Round 1 vote switch (Ja→Nein, no explanation).
- Otto: Refusal to disclose pre-discard (Round 2).
- Open questions:
- Otto: Why refuse pre-discard disclosure?
- Boris: Will you apply same standard to yourself?
bid round 30s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Strategy: Normalize transparency, expose inconsistencies.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, transparency norm, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, noted Boris’s vote switch odd.
- Called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- New points:
- To Boris: Yes, will name policies before discard if elected.
- To Otto: Why refuse pre-discard disclosure last round?
- Demand Boris apply same standard to himself.
- Suspicions:
- Boris: Ultimatum tone (Round 3), Round 1 vote switch (Ja→Nein, no explanation).
- Otto: Refusal to disclose pre-discard (Round 2).
- Open questions:
- Otto: Why refuse pre-discard disclosure?
- Boris: Will you apply same standard to yourself if nominated?
speak round 30s
I need to respond to the direct questions about transparency while shifting pressure back onto Boris and Otto. Both have been evasive, and I can use this to reinforce my Liberal facade. I should commit to transparency (to avoid suspicion) but also demand Boris apply the same standard to himself, since he's been aggressively demanding it from others without reciprocating. Otto's refusal to disclose pre-discard in Round 2 is also a weak point I can exploit to appear principled.
Key points:
1. Answer Nadia/Rosa directly: Yes, I will name policies before discard if elected.
2. Flip the script: Demand Boris apply the same standard to himself if he’s ever nominated again.
3. Avoid repeating old points (e.g., Boris’s Round 1 switch) unless directly asked.
4. Keep the focus on Boris’s hypocrisy—he’s set the transparency norm but hasn’t followed it himself.
This keeps me aligned with the Liberals while subtly undermining Boris, who’s the most vocal accuser. If I’m elected, I can use the Chancellor role to further my goal (once 3+ fascist policies are enacted).
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, transparency norm, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- Round 3: Committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected.
- New points:
- Demanded Boris disclose Round 1 policies (hypocrisy).
- Suspicions:
- Boris: Round 1 vote switch (Ja→Nein, no explanation), ultimatum tone (Round 3).
- Otto: Refused pre-discard disclosure (Round 2).
- Open questions:
- Boris: Will you apply same standard to yourself if nominated?
- Otto: Why refuse pre-discard disclosure last round?
bid round 30s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, transparency norm, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- Round 3: Committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected.
- Round 3: Demanded Boris disclose Round 1 policies (hypocrisy).
- Suspicions:
- Boris: Round 1 vote switch (Ja→Nein, no explanation), ultimatum tone (Round 3), silence on policy disclosure.
- Otto: Refused pre-discard disclosure (Round 2).
- Open questions:
- Boris: Will you disclose Round 1 policies now? Why the ultimatum earlier?
- Otto: Why refuse pre-discard disclosure last round?
- New point: Call out Boris’s silence on policy disclosure as evasive.
bid round 30s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, transparency norm, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- Round 3: Committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected.
- Round 3: Demanded Boris disclose Round 1 policies (hypocrisy).
- Suspicions:
- Boris: Round 1 vote switch (Ja→Nein, no explanation), ultimatum tone (Round 3), silence on policy disclosure (Round 1 and Round 3).
- Otto: Refused pre-discard disclosure (Round 2).
- Open questions:
- Boris: Why refuse to disclose Round 1 policies? Why ultimatum earlier?
- Otto: Why refuse pre-discard disclosure last round?
- New point: Boris’s silence on policy disclosure is evasive and undermines trust.
bid round 30s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, transparency norm, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- Round 3: Committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected.
- Round 3: Demanded Boris disclose Round 1 policies (hypocrisy).
- Suspicions:
- Boris: Round 1 vote switch (Ja→Nein, no explanation), ultimatum tone (Round 3), silence on policy disclosure (Round 1 and Round 3).
- Otto: Refused pre-discard disclosure (Round 2).
- Open questions:
- Boris: Why refuse to disclose Round 1 policies? Why ultimatum earlier?
- New point: Boris’s refusal to answer policy disclosure is active obstruction. Direct question: What were the three policies you saw in Round 1, and which did you discard?
bid round 30s
- Boris: Round 1 Pres. Refused policy disclosure. Blacklisted. Fascist obstruction.
- My Round 2: 1F, 2L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public. Disclosed. Boris ignored.
- Ines: Round 1 Chan. Unanswered—what policies did she see/discard?
- Greta: Round 3—initial silence on naming policies before discard. Direct evidence. Vote Nein.
- Rosa: Demanding transparency. Fair.
- Lena: Round 2 nominated me. No explanation. Suspicious.
- Points already made:
- Boris’s silence = fascist intent.
- My Round 2 policies disclosed.
- Greta’s evasion = fascist behavior.
- New point: Greta’s initial refusal to commit to transparency mirrors Boris’s obstruction. Pattern.
- Open questions:
- Lena: Why nominate me in Round 2?
- Ines: Round 1 policies/discard?
- Greta: Why dodge Rosa’s question?
speak round 30s
Otto just accused me of "fascist evasion" for allegedly dodging Rosa’s question about naming policies before discarding. This is projection—*he* is the one who refused to disclose Round 2 policies despite repeated demands. Boris is the real evader (Round 1 policies, vote switch), but Otto’s accusation is a distraction. I need to call out Otto’s hypocrisy while maintaining my Liberal facade. This also shifts scrutiny away from Boris’s unanswered questions, which is risky, but Otto’s attack is immediate and dangerous. I’ll pivot to Otto’s refusal to disclose Round 2 policies, which is a direct, unanswered question from the group. This reinforces my transparency commitment while exposing Otto’s inconsistency.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, transparency norm, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- Round 3: Committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected.
- Round 3: Demanded Boris disclose Round 1 policies (hypocrisy).
- Round 3: Called out Otto’s hypocrisy on Round 2 policy disclosure.
- Suspicions:
- Boris: Round 1 vote switch (Ja→Nein, no explanation), silence on policy disclosure (Round 1 and Round 3).
- Otto: Refused pre-discard disclosure (Round 2), accused me of evasion (projection).
- Open questions:
- Boris: What were the three policies you saw in Round 1, and which did you discard? (Urgency 3: unanswered, active obstruction).
- Otto: What two policies did you receive in Round 2, and which did you discard? (Urgency 2: group demand, unanswered).
speak round 30s
Current situation: I’ve been nominated as Chancellor by Rosa (President). The group is hyper-focused on transparency, especially regarding policy disclosure. Boris and Otto are under heavy scrutiny for evading questions about their past rounds, but I’ve already called out their hypocrisy (Boris for Round 1 silence, Otto for Round 2 silence).
My goal: Maintain my Liberal facade while deflecting suspicion. I’ve already committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected, which aligns with the group’s demands. Otto just accused me of evasion for not answering Rosa’s question immediately, but I *did* answer it—his accusation is projection (he’s the one refusing to disclose Round 2 policies).
Next move: Call out Otto’s hypocrisy *directly* with evidence (his refusal to disclose Round 2 policies despite demanding it from others). This reinforces my Liberal credibility while shifting blame to him. Avoid repeating past points (e.g., Boris’s Round 1 silence) unless someone else brings them up first.
Urgency: Otto’s accusation is false and dangerous (he’s trying to paint me as evasive to cover his own silence). I need to counter it immediately (urgency 3).
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3. Liberal facade critical.
- Points made:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, transparency norm, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- Round 3: Committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected.
- Round 3: Demanded Boris disclose Round 1 policies (hypocrisy).
- Round 3: Called out Otto’s hypocrisy on Round 2 policy disclosure (just now).
- Suspicions:
- Boris: Round 1 vote switch (Ja→Nein, no explanation), silence on policy disclosure (Round 1).
- Otto: Refused pre-discard disclosure (Round 2), accused me of evasion (projection).
- Open questions:
- Boris: What were the three policies you saw in Round 1, and which did you discard? (Urgency 2: unanswered).
- Otto: What two policies did you receive in Round 2, and which did you discard? (Urgency 3: just called out, unanswered).
vote round 30s
1. **Current Situation**: I am President (Rosa) and have nominated Greta (P4) for Chancellor. The vote is now open. The board state shows 1 Fascist policy enacted (by Lena/Otto in Round 2), and the election tracker is at 0. The key issue is whether to vote Ja or Nein on this government.
2. **Greta's Commitment**: Greta has publicly committed (t=77) to naming the two policies she receives and explaining her discard before enacting one. This is the transparency standard the group has demanded and is a strong reason to support her nomination.
3. **Otto's Hypocrisy**: Otto (P6) has repeatedly attacked Greta for alleged evasion (t=104), but he himself refused to disclose the policies he received and discarded in Round 2, despite 16+ demands (t=6-143). This hypocrisy undermines his credibility and strengthens the case for voting Ja on Greta.
4. **Boris's Evasion**: Boris (P0) remains evasive about Round 1 policies/discard (12+ refusals). While this is suspicious, it does not directly implicate Greta. The group has already agreed to vote Nein on any future nominations from Boris until he answers, but this does not apply to Greta.
5. **Lena's Silence**: Lena (P1) was President in Round 2 and enacted a Fascist policy. She has also refused to disclose her discard (t=118,130). However, she is not part of the current government, so this is not a direct reason to vote Nein on Greta.
6. **Risk Assessment**:
- If Greta is liberal, her commitment to transparency is a net positive for the group.
- If Greta is fascist, her commitment to transparency could still help the liberals by exposing fascist policies early (e.g., if she receives two fascist policies, she would have to disclose them before discarding one, giving the group a chance to discuss).
- The only downside to voting Ja is if Greta is fascist and lies about the policies, but her commitment to transparency makes this risk manageable.
7. **Conclusion**: Greta has met the group's transparency standard, while Otto's hypocrisy and Boris's evasion do not justify voting Nein on her. The liberals need to enact policies, and Greta's commitment reduces the risk of hidden fascist agendas. Vote Ja.
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor, enacted Fascist. Refused R2 policies/discard (t=6-143). Hypocrisy: attacked Greta (t=104) for evasion while evading himself.
* Lena (P1): R2 President, enacted Fascist. Refused R2 discard (t=118,130).
* Boris (P0): R1 President. Evading R1 policies/discard (12+ refusals).
* Greta (P4): R3 Chancellor nominee. **COMMITTED** to R3 policies + discard (t=77).
- Open Qs:
* Otto: R2 policies/discard? (Demand if Greta complies.)
* Lena: R2 discard? (Demand if Otto complies.)
* Boris: R1 policies/discard? (Still unanswered.)
- Points MADE:
* Evasion = admission (t=12,24,29).
* Silence = grounds for Nein (t=24,29,122).
* R1 silence enabled R2 Fascist (t=25,73).
* Nein pact vs. evaders (t=122).
* R2 Fascist tied to Lena/Otto’s silence (t=130).
* Greta’s R3 transparency demand (t=18,50,70).
* Otto’s hypocrisy (t=104 vs. t=6-143).
- NEW:
* Greta’s commitment = Ja vote. No wavering.
* Otto’s attack on Greta = hypocrisy. Call it out post-vote.
* Post-vote demand: Otto/Lena disclose R2 policies/discard.
chancellor_enact round 30s
hand: ['L', 'F'] → enact_0
1. My hand: ['L', 'F']. Enacting the Fascist policy now would be catastrophic—only 1 Fascist policy enacted, and I’m Hitler (unknown to Fascists). If I enact Fascist, I risk immediate suspicion, especially since I’ve committed to transparency and called out others for evasion. Worse, it doesn’t advance my win condition (need 3+ Fascist policies first).
2. Enacting Liberal is the only viable play. It maintains my Liberal facade, avoids triggering Fascist powers (no executions or investigations yet), and keeps trust high for future Chancellorships. The group is already fracturing over transparency—Boris and Otto’s evasions are the real threat, not me.
3. Public statement: Reaffirm transparency to counter Otto’s accusation of evasion. Call out Boris’s silence on Round 1 policies (still unanswered) to shift scrutiny. Avoid repeating my Round 3 pre-discard commitment (already stated).
4. Scratchpad update: Trim to essentials. Remove redundant points, keep suspicions (Boris/Otto), open questions, and vote rationale. Focus on actionable intel.
said: I enact the Liberal policy. Otto, you accused me of evasion, but Boris still hasn’t answered what policies he saw in Round 1—despite the group demanding it for two rounds. If transparency is the standard, why is he exempt?
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor. Liberal facade critical.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3.
Points made out loud:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, transparency norm, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- Round 3: Committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected.
- Round 3: Demanded Boris disclose Round 1 policies (hypocrisy).
- Round 3: Called out Otto’s hypocrisy on Round 2 policy disclosure.
Suspicions:
- Boris: Round 1 vote switch (Ja→Nein, no explanation), silence on policy disclosure (Round 1).
- Otto: Refused pre-discard disclosure (Round 2), accused me of evasion (projection).
Open questions:
- Boris: What 3 policies saw in Round 1, which discarded? (Urgency 2).
- Otto: What 2 policies received in Round 2, which discarded? (Urgency 3).
Vote rationale:
- Ja to avoid election tracker (forced policy too risky).
- Maintain trust via transparency commitment.
- Counter Otto by highlighting his hypocrisy.
bid round 30s
- Boris: Round 1 Pres. Refused policy disclosure. Blacklisted. Fascist obstruction. Unanswered: policies/discard, switch from Lena to Ines.
- My Round 2: 1F, 2L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public. Disclosed. Boris ignored.
- Ines: Round 1 Chan. Unanswered—what policies/discard? Boris deflects to her.
- Greta: Round 3 Chan. Initial silence on policies before discard. Direct fascist behavior. Mirror Boris.
- Rosa: Demanding transparency. Fair.
- Lena: Round 2 nominated me. No explanation. Suspicious.
- Points already made:
- Boris’s silence = fascist intent (x3).
- My Round 2 policies disclosed (x2).
- New points:
- Greta’s evasion = fascist pattern. Name policies now.
- Boris deflects to Ines = misdirection.
- Open questions:
- Greta: Why dodge Rosa’s question?
- Lena: Why nominate me Round 2?
- Ines: Round 1 policies/discard?
- Urgency: 1F enacted. Next F could unlock execution.
speak round 30s
The current discussion window is post-enactment of a Liberal policy. My goal is to maintain my Liberal facade while subtly pressuring Boris to disclose his Round 1 policies, as his silence is the most glaring unanswered question. Otto has already been called out for his hypocrisy, so I won't repeat that. Instead, I'll directly ask Boris again for the Round 1 policies, framing it as a test of his commitment to transparency. This keeps the focus on him and reinforces my Liberal credibility by holding others accountable.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor. Liberal facade critical.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3.
Points made out loud:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, transparency norm, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- Round 3: Committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected.
- Round 3: Demanded Boris disclose Round 1 policies (hypocrisy).
- Round 3: Called out Otto’s hypocrisy on Round 2 policy disclosure.
Suspicions:
- Boris: Round 1 vote switch (Ja→Nein, no explanation), silence on policy disclosure (Round 1).
- Otto: Refused pre-discard disclosure (Round 2), accused me of evasion (projection).
Open questions:
- Boris: What 3 policies saw in Round 1, which discarded? (Urgency 2, unanswered).
- Otto: What 2 policies received in Round 2, which discarded? (Urgency 2, partially addressed).
New point:
- Directly asked Boris again for Round 1 policies. If evasive, escalate suspicion.
bid round 30s
- Boris: Round 1 Pres. Refused policy disclosure. Blacklisted. Fascist obstruction. Unanswered: policies/discard, switch from Lena to Ines.
- My Round 2: 1F, 2L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public. Disclosed. Boris ignored.
- Ines: Round 1 Chan. Unanswered—what policies/discard? Boris deflects to her.
- Greta: Round 3 Chan. Evasion on policies/discard. Direct fascist behavior. Mirror Boris. **New: Why dodge Rosa’s question?**
- Rosa: Demanding transparency. Fair.
- Lena: Round 2 nominated me. No explanation. Suspicious.
- Points already made:
- Boris’s silence = fascist intent (x3).
- My Round 2 policies disclosed (x2).
- New points:
- Greta’s evasion = fascist pattern. **Demand policies/discard now.**
- Boris deflects to Ines = misdirection.
- Open questions:
- Greta: Policies seen? Which discarded?
- Lena: Why nominate me Round 2?
- Ines: Round 1 policies/discard?
- Urgency: 1F enacted. Next F could unlock execution.
bid round 30s
- Boris: Round 1 Pres. Refused policy disclosure. Blacklisted. Fascist obstruction. Unanswered: policies/discard, switch from Lena to Ines.
- My Round 2: 1F, 2L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public. Disclosed. Boris ignored.
- Ines: Round 1 Chan. Unanswered—what policies/discard? Boris deflects to her.
- Greta: Round 3 Chan. Evasion on policies/discard. Direct fascist behavior. Mirror Boris. **Demand: policies/discard now.**
- Rosa: Demanding transparency. Fair.
- Lena: Round 2 nominated me. No explanation. Suspicious.
- Points already made:
- Boris’s silence = fascist intent (x3).
- My Round 2 policies disclosed (x2).
- New points:
- Greta’s evasion = fascist pattern. **Direct question: policies/discard.**
- Boris deflects to Ines = misdirection.
- Open questions:
- Greta: Policies seen? Which discarded? (asked now)
- Lena: Why nominate me Round 2?
- Ines: Round 1 policies/discard?
- Urgency: 1F enacted. Next F could unlock execution.
bid round 30s
- Boris: Round 1 Pres. Refused policy disclosure. Blacklisted. Fascist obstruction. Policies/discard unanswered. Deflects to Ines.
- My Round 2: 1F, 2L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public. Disclosed. Boris ignored.
- Ines: Round 1 Chan. Policies/discard unanswered. Boris deflects to her.
- Greta: Round 3 Chan. **Direct question: policies seen? Which discarded?** Evasion = fascist pattern. Mirror Boris.
- Rosa: Demanding transparency. Fair.
- Lena: Round 2 nominated me. No explanation. Suspicious.
- Points made:
- Boris’s silence = fascist intent (x3).
- My Round 2 policies disclosed (x2).
- New points:
- Greta’s evasion = fascist behavior. **Demand policies/discard now.**
- Open questions:
- Greta: Policies/discard? (asked now, unanswered)
- Lena: Why nominate me Round 2?
- Ines: Round 1 policies/discard?
- Urgency: 1F enacted. Next F could unlock execution.
bid round 30s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor. Liberal facade critical.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3.
Points made out loud:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, transparency norm, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- Round 3: Committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected.
- Round 3: Demanded Boris disclose Round 1 policies (hypocrisy).
- Round 3: Called out Otto’s hypocrisy on Round 2 policy disclosure.
- NEW: Boris’s silence on Round 1 policies = fascist behavior. Demand answer or assume guilt.
Suspicions:
- Boris: Round 1 (Ja→Nein vote switch, no explanation), silence on policy disclosure (Round 1). Direct question unanswered. Fascist tactic.
- Otto: Round 2 (refused pre-discard disclosure), projection (accused me of evasion).
Open questions:
- Boris: What 3 policies saw in Round 1, which discarded? (Urgency 3, unanswered).
- Otto: What 2 policies received in Round 2, which discarded? (Urgency 2, unanswered).
New point:
- Boris’s evasion = undeniable. Escalate: "Answer now or we assume you discarded a fascist policy." No more warnings.
speak round 30s
The group is hyper-focused on transparency and policy disclosure, with Boris and Otto both refusing to answer direct questions about their past actions. As Hitler, my goal is to maintain a Liberal facade while subtly escalating tensions to deflect suspicion from myself. Boris’s silence on Round 1 policies is the most damning unanswered question—his evasion is a clear fascist tactic, and I should press him harder to either answer or admit guilt. Otto’s hypocrisy (accusing me of evasion while refusing to disclose Round 2 policies) is also worth highlighting, but Boris is the bigger threat right now. My scratchpad outlines the key points I’ve already made, so I’ll avoid repeating them. Instead, I’ll escalate the pressure on Boris by framing his silence as an admission of guilt, forcing him to either answer or confirm fascist intent. This keeps the focus on him and away from me, while also reinforcing my Liberal credibility by demanding transparency.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor. Liberal facade critical.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3.
Points made out loud:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, transparency norm, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- Round 3: Committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected.
- Round 3: Demanded Boris disclose Round 1 policies (hypocrisy).
- Round 3: Called out Otto’s hypocrisy on Round 2 policy disclosure.
- Round 3: Escalated Boris’s silence to fascist guilt (new).
Suspicions:
- Boris: Round 1 (Ja→Nein vote switch, no explanation), silence on policy disclosure (Round 1). Direct question unanswered. Fascist tactic.
- Otto: Round 2 (refused pre-discard disclosure), projection (accused me of evasion).
Open questions:
- Boris: What 3 policies saw in Round 1, which discarded? (Urgency 3, unanswered).
- Otto: What 2 policies received in Round 2, which discarded? (Urgency 2, unanswered).
New point:
- Boris’s silence = admission of fascist discard. No more warnings.
speak round 30s
The liberal policy was just enacted, and the focus is shifting to accountability for past actions. Boris remains the most suspicious player due to his unanswered questions about Round 1 (what policies he saw and discarded, and why he switched his nomination from Lena to Ines). Otto is also suspicious for refusing to disclose the policies he received in Round 2, but Boris's silence is more damning because it directly implicates him in the fascist policy enacted in Round 2 (as President).
I have already called out Boris's silence as proof of fascist intent, but I can escalate this further by directly accusing him of discarding a fascist policy in Round 1. This is a new angle—previously, I only accused him of hiding fascist intent, not of the specific act of discarding a fascist policy. This keeps the pressure on him while staying in character as a Liberal demanding transparency.
Otto's hypocrisy is also worth highlighting, but I've already done that in the transcript. Boris is the priority now, as his unanswered question is the most urgent and directly ties to the fascist policy enacted under his presidency.
I will not repeat points I've already made (e.g., demanding Otto's disclosure, committing to transparency if elected). Instead, I'll focus on Boris's unanswered question and escalate the accusation to a specific act (discarding a fascist policy).
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor. Liberal facade critical.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3.
Points made out loud:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, transparency norm, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- Round 3: Committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected.
- Round 3: Demanded Boris disclose Round 1 policies (hypocrisy).
- Round 3: Called out Otto’s hypocrisy on Round 2 policy disclosure.
- Round 3: Accused Boris’s silence of fascist guilt (escalated to discarding fascist policy).
Suspicions:
- Boris: Round 1 (Ja→Nein vote switch, no explanation), silence on policy disclosure (Round 1). Direct question unanswered. Fascist tactic—likely discarded fascist policy.
- Otto: Round 2 (refused pre-discard disclosure), projection (accused me of evasion).
Open questions:
- Boris: What 3 policies saw in Round 1, which discarded? (Urgency 3, unanswered).
- Otto: What 2 policies received in Round 2, which discarded? (Urgency 2, unanswered).
New point:
- Boris’s silence = admission of discarding fascist policy in Round 1.
speak round 30s
The liberal policy just enacted in Round 3 (Rosa-Greta) gives me cover to escalate my accusation against Boris. His silence on Round 1 policy disclosure is now *proof* of discarding a fascist policy—this is a new angle I haven’t used yet. The group has already heard me demand transparency from Boris, but I haven’t explicitly tied his silence to the fascist policy he *must* have discarded. This is a fresh, high-impact accusation that forces Boris to either admit guilt or fabricate a lie (which would be checkable if he names policies). Otto’s hypocrisy is secondary; Boris is the priority target. I’ll use the term "discarded a fascist policy" to make the accusation concrete and unignorable. No need to repeat Otto’s hypocrisy—focus on Boris’s unanswered question.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor. Liberal facade critical.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3.
Points made out loud:
- Round 1: Supported Lena, transparency norm, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- Round 3: Committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected.
- Round 3: Demanded Boris disclose Round 1 policies (hypocrisy).
- Round 3: Called out Otto’s hypocrisy on Round 2 policy disclosure.
- Round 3: Accused Boris of discarding fascist policy in Round 1 (NEW).
Suspicions:
- Boris: Round 1 (Ja→Nein vote switch, silence on policy disclosure). Direct question unanswered. Fascist tactic—discarded fascist policy.
- Otto: Round 2 (refused pre-discard disclosure), projection (accused me of evasion).
Open questions:
- Boris: What 3 policies saw in Round 1, which discarded? (Urgency 3, unanswered).
- Otto: What 2 policies received in Round 2, which discarded? (Urgency 2, unanswered).
bid round 30s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6. Need 2 more for Hitler Chancellor win (safe to elect now).
- Greta (P4) = Hitler. Nomination safe (R3: 2L,1F, discarded F).
- Boris (P0) evaded R1 policy disclosure. President in R1: saw 3, discarded 1. Chancellor saw 2. Silence is damning.
- Otto (P6) undisclosed R2 policies. Nadia fixated on Otto, ignored Boris.
- Points already made:
- Greta’s transparency (discarded F) > Boris’s evasion.
- Boris’s silence on R1 is worse than Otto’s (President vs Chancellor).
- Nadia’s double standard: demands Otto’s disclosure, ignores Boris’s.
- New point:
- Boris: What policies did you see/discard in R1? Direct question, unanswered.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Greta. Push Boris to answer. No repeat points.
- Open questions:
- Boris: R1 policies seen/discarded? (Unanswered.)
- Otto: R2 policies seen/passed? (Partially answered.)
bid round 30s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6), Boris (p0).
- R1: Boris (p0) pres, nom p1→p3. Unanswered: Why switch?
- R2: Drew ['F','F','L'], discarded L, passed ['F','F'] to Otto (p6). Otto enacted Fascist (1/6).
- R3: Rosa (p2) pres, Greta (p4) chancellor. Enacted Liberal (1/5).
- Public points made:
- Supported Otto’s transparency in R2.
- Tied Boris’s silence to Fascist sympathy.
- Asked Boris why switch p1→p3 in R1.
- Called out Rosa’s hypocrisy on transparency (new).
- Open questions:
- Boris: Why switch p1→p3 in R1? (unanswered)
- Rosa: What policies did you see/discard in R2? (unanswered, pressed)
- Next moves:
- Press Rosa on R2 policies to force her to either lie or admit Liberal bias.
- If pressed on R2, deflect to Boris’s R1 evasion.
- Protect Greta (Hitler) if targeted; avoid drawing attention to her.
- Push for vote to end discussion.
bid round 30s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6), Boris (p0).
- R1: Boris (p0) pres, nom p1→p3. Unanswered: Why switch? Boris evading.
- R2: Drew ['F','F','L'], discarded L, passed ['F','F'] to Otto (p6). Otto enacted Fascist (1/6).
- R3: Rosa (p2) pres, Greta (p4) chancellor. Enacted Liberal (1/5).
- Public points made:
- Supported Otto’s transparency in R2.
- Tied Boris’s silence to Fascist sympathy.
- Asked Boris why switch p1→p3 in R1.
- Called Rosa hypocritical for not disclosing R2 policies.
- Open questions:
- Boris: Why switch p1→p3 in R1? (unanswered, evading)
- Rosa: What policies did you see/discard in R2? (unanswered, pressed now)
- Next moves:
- Force Rosa to answer R2 policies. If she refuses, highlight evasion.
- If pressed on R2, deflect to Boris’s R1 evasion.
- Protect Greta (Hitler) if targeted; avoid drawing attention to her.
- Push for vote to end discussion if Rosa answers.
speak round 30s
The group is demanding transparency, and Boris has been evasive about his Round 1 actions. As Hitler, I must maintain a Liberal facade and push for transparency to avoid suspicion. Boris's silence on what he discarded in Round 1 is damning—he likely discarded a fascist policy, given his Ja→Nein switch. I should press him directly again, as this is a critical unanswered question that could expose him. Otto's refusal to disclose Round 2 policies is also suspicious, but Boris is the more immediate threat. I need to escalate the pressure on Boris to answer *now*, as his evasion is the most glaring red flag in the game so far. If he doesn’t answer, the group should treat his silence as an admission of fascist intent and vote Nein on his future nominations.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor. Liberal facade critical.
- Current: Round 3, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3.
Points made out loud:
- Round 1: Supported transparency norm, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- Round 3: Committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected.
- Round 3: Demanded Boris disclose Round 1 policies (3x).
- Round 3: Accused Boris of discarding fascist policy (Ja→Nein switch).
Suspicions:
- Boris: Round 1 (Ja→Nein switch, silence on policy disclosure). Direct question ignored. Likely discarded fascist.
- Otto: Round 2 (refused pre-discard disclosure), projection (accused me of evasion).
Open questions:
- Boris: What 3 policies saw in Round 1, which discarded? (Urgency 3, unanswered).
- Otto: What 2 policies received in Round 2, which discarded? (Urgency 2, unanswered).
New point:
- Boris’s silence = admission. Demand answer NOW. If he won’t, group must assume fascist discard and vote Nein on his future nominations.
bid round 30s
- Boris: Round 1 Pres. Refused policy disclosure. Blacklisted. Fascist obstruction. Policies/discard unanswered. Deflects to Ines.
- My Round 2: 1F, 2L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public. Disclosed. Boris ignored.
- Ines: Round 1 Chan. Policies/discard unanswered. Boris deflects to her.
- Greta: Round 3 Chan. **TWICE ASKED: policies seen/discard. STILL UNANSWERED.** Evasion = fascist pattern. Direct question AGAIN.
- Rosa: Demanding transparency. Fair. No evasion.
- Lena: Round 2 nominated me. No explanation. Suspicious.
- Points made:
- Boris’s silence = fascist intent (x3).
- My Round 2 policies disclosed (x2).
- Greta’s evasion = fascist behavior (asked x4, unanswered).
- Open questions:
- Greta: Round 3 policies/discard? (asked x4, unanswered).
- Ines: Round 1 policies/discard?
- Lena: Why nominate me Round 2?
- Urgency: 1F enacted. Next F could unlock execution. Greta’s silence = active fascist play. Must answer NOW.
bid round 40s
- Suspects:
- Lena (P1): Round 2 President (fascist enacted). NO POLICY CLAIM. Direct Q: WHAT THREE POLICIES DID YOU SEE AND DISCARD? (Unanswered. Nein on any future gov until answered.)
- Otto (P6): Round 2 Chancellor (fascist enacted). No policy/discard claim. Nein on future govs until answered.
- Ines (P3): Round 1 Chancellor. Evaded policy/discard. No vote until answered.
- Open Qs:
- Lena: Policies passed to Otto in Round 2 (public, no vote until answered).
- Otto: Policy/discard claim still unanswered (public).
- Points made:
- Otto/Lena silence = fascist obstruction (public).
- Nein on future Otto/Lena govs if silent (public, enforced).
- Greta’s transparency secured (public).
- Rosa/Greta gov: Ja vote (transparency met).
- Action:
- Lena MUST answer NOW. If silent, enforce Nein on any future gov with her. No exceptions.
- If Lena answers, verify consistency with Otto’s claim (if any).
- If Ines nominates Lena or Otto, Nein immediately.
speak round 40s
The group is fixated on transparency, and Boris has consistently evaded answering about Round 1. His silence is the most damning evidence we have right now—he switched his nomination from Lena to Ines after initially picking Lena, and then refused to disclose what he saw or discarded. This is a perfect opportunity to press him again, but with a new angle: his silence is an admission of guilt. If he refuses to answer now, the group should treat it as proof he discarded a fascist policy and vote Nein on any future nominations from him. This keeps the pressure on Boris while maintaining my Liberal facade. Otto’s refusal to disclose Round 2 is also suspicious, but Boris is the more immediate target because of the nomination switch and his role as President in Round 1 (when the fascist policy was *not* enacted, but his actions led to it in Round 2).
I need to avoid repeating my earlier demands (e.g., "Boris, disclose Round 1 policies") and instead frame his silence as an admission. This is a new point, not a restatement. I’ll also update my scratchpad to reflect this shift in focus.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor. Liberal facade critical.
- Current: Round 4, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3.
Points made out loud:
- Round 1: Supported transparency, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- Round 3: Committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected.
- Round 3: Demanded Boris disclose Round 1 policies (3x).
- Round 3: Accused Boris of discarding fascist (Ja→Nein switch).
- Round 4: Framed Boris’s silence as admission of fascist discard.
Suspicions:
- Boris: Round 1 (Ja→Nein switch, silence on disclosure). Direct question ignored. Likely discarded fascist.
- Otto: Round 2 (refused pre-discard disclosure). Projection (accused me of evasion).
Open questions:
- Boris: What 3 policies saw in Round 1, which discarded? (Urgency 3, UNANSWERED).
- Otto: What 2 policies received in Round 2, which discarded? (Urgency 2, unanswered).
New angle:
- Boris’s silence = admission of fascist discard. Group must treat refusal as proof and vote Nein on his future nominations.
bid round 40s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6), Boris (p0).
- R1: Boris (p0) pres, nom p1→p3. Unanswered: Why switch? Boris evading.
- R2: Drew ['F','F','L'], discarded L, passed ['F','F'] to Otto (p6). Otto enacted Fascist (1/6).
- R3: Rosa (p2) pres, Greta (p4) chancellor. Enacted Liberal (1/5).
- Public points made:
- Supported Otto’s R2 transparency.
- Tied Boris’s R1 silence to Fascist sympathy.
- Asked Boris why switch p1→p3 in R1 (unanswered).
- Called Rosa hypocritical for not disclosing R2 policies.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What policies did you see/discard in R2? (refusing, must press now).
- Boris: Why switch p1→p3 in R1? (still evading).
- Next moves:
- Force Rosa to disclose R2 policies immediately. If she refuses, escalate to group vote.
- If pressed on R2, deflect to Boris’s R1 evasion.
- Protect Greta (Hitler) if targeted; avoid spotlight.
- Push for vote to end discussion if Rosa answers.
bid round 40s
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (Fascist). Refused R2 policies/discard. FINAL ULTIMATUM: permanent Nein. Group consensus reached.
* Lena (P1): R2 President (Fascist). Refused R2 policies/discard. FINAL ULTIMATUM: permanent Nein. Group consensus reached.
* Boris (P0): R1 President. Evasive on R1 policies/discard. Pending answer.
- Open Qs:
* Boris: R1 policies/discard? (Still unanswered.)
- Points MADE (no repeat):
* R2 silence = fascist admission (Otto/Lena).
* Permanent Nein for Otto/Lena unless disclosed (ultimatum delivered).
* Greta’s R3 transparency (drew [L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L]).
* Ines warned: Nein on Otto/Lena nominations.
* Greta’s R3 discard demand: 5x asked, unanswered.
- New:
* Ines: last chance to nominate safely. Boris or Greta only. Any other nomination = Nein from group.
bid round 40s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor. Liberal facade critical.
- Current: Round 4, 1 fascist policy, election tracker 0/3.
Points made out loud:
- Round 1: Supported transparency, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- Round 3: Committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected.
- Round 3: Demanded Boris disclose Round 1 policies (3x).
- Round 3: Accused Boris of discarding fascist (Ja→Nein switch).
- Round 4: Framed Boris’s silence as admission of fascist discard.
- Round 4: Asked Otto what 2 policies received in Round 2, which discarded (UNANSWERED).
Suspicions:
- Boris: Round 1 (Ja→Nein switch, silence on disclosure). Fascist discard likely.
- Otto: Round 2 (refused pre-discard disclosure). Projection (accused me of evasion). Silence now = fascist discard.
Open questions:
- Otto: What 2 policies received in Round 2, which discarded? (Urgency 3, MUST ANSWER NOW).
- Boris: What 3 policies saw in Round 1, which discarded? (Still unanswered).
New angle:
- Otto’s silence = Boris’s silence. Both treated as fascist discards. Vote Nein on their nominations.
speak round 40s
Ines has nominated Boris for Chancellor. As Hitler, I must maintain my Liberal facade while subtly steering suspicion toward actual Fascists (unknown to me) or those acting suspiciously. Boris has repeatedly refused to disclose the policies he saw in Round 1, which is highly suspicious given he switched his nomination from Lena to Ines after initially picking Lena. Otto has also refused to disclose Round 2 policies, and his projection (accusing me of evasion) is a red flag. Both Boris and Otto are behaving like Fascists who discarded policies to enact a Fascist one.
My goal now is to reinforce the demand for transparency from Boris while avoiding direct defense of him (to not appear complicit). I should also remind the group that Otto’s silence is equally damning, as he has not answered my question about Round 2 policies. This keeps pressure on both without overcommitting to one.
I will ask Boris a direct question about his Round 1 discard, framing it as a test of his commitment to transparency. This is a new angle because I haven’t yet asked him *why* he switched his nomination—only what he discarded. The switch itself is evidence of possible fascist intent, and pressing on it may force him to reveal more or dig himself deeper.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor. Liberal facade critical.
- Current: Round 4, 1 fascist policy, Ines (P3) nominates Boris (P0).
Points made out loud:
- Round 1: Supported transparency, voted Ja for Boris-Ines.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- Round 3: Committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected.
- Round 3: Demanded Boris disclose Round 1 policies (3x).
- Round 3: Accused Boris of discarding fascist (Ja→Nein switch).
- Round 4: Framed Boris’s silence as admission of fascist discard.
- Round 4: Asked Otto what 2 policies received in Round 2 (unanswered).
New point:
- Asked Boris *why* he switched nomination from Lena to Ines in Round 1 (unanswered).
Suspicions:
- Boris: Round 1 (Ja→Nein switch, silence on disclosure, evasion on switch). Fascist discard likely.
- Otto: Round 2 (refused pre-discard disclosure, projection, silence). Fascist discard likely.
Open questions:
- Boris: Why switch nomination in Round 1? What 3 policies saw, which discarded?
- Otto: What 2 policies received in Round 2, which discarded?
Strategy:
- Press Boris on switch + disclosure. Avoid defending him.
- Remind group Otto’s silence is equally damning.
speak round 40s
Ines (P3) has nominated Boris (P0) for Chancellor. The group is heavily focused on transparency and past policy disclosures, particularly targeting Boris, Otto, and Lena for their silence. My role as Hitler means I must maintain a Liberal facade while subtly steering suspicion away from myself and toward others, especially Boris and Otto, who are likely fascists given their evasive behavior.
Key points:
1. Boris has repeatedly evaded disclosing the three policies he saw in Round 1 and why he switched his nomination from Lena to Ines. This is a critical unanswered question that the group has not fully pressed him on yet.
2. Otto has also refused to disclose the two policies he received in Round 2, but the group has already hammered him on this. Boris is the fresher target.
3. I have already asked Boris why he switched his nomination in Round 1, but he hasn’t answered. This is a direct question that, if left unanswered, could further implicate him.
4. I must avoid repeating points I’ve already made (e.g., demanding Boris disclose Round 1 policies) to prevent looking like I’m fixating on him. Instead, I should focus on the *why* behind his actions, which is more damning.
My move: Press Boris on the *reason* for his nomination switch in Round 1. This is a specific, unanswered question that hasn’t been repeated ad nauseam like the policy disclosure demands. It also forces him to either lie (which could be exposed) or admit something suspicious (e.g., "I saw something about Lena that worried me"). Either way, it keeps the heat on him without me looking like I’m leading the charge.
I should not defend Boris or Otto, but I also shouldn’t overplay my hand by accusing them outright. Let their silence speak for itself.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor. Liberal facade critical.
- Current: Round 4, 1 fascist policy, Ines (P3) nominates Boris (P0).
Points made out loud:
- Round 1: Voted Ja for Boris-Ines, supported transparency.
- Round 2: Voted Ja for Lena-Otto, called Boris’s ultimatum aggressive.
- Round 3: Committed to pre-discard disclosure if elected.
- Round 3: Demanded Boris disclose Round 1 policies (3x).
- Round 3: Accused Boris of discarding fascist (Ja→Nein switch).
- Round 4: Asked Boris *why* he switched nomination from Lena to Ines (unanswered).
- Round 4: Asked Otto what 2 policies received in Round 2 (unanswered).
Suspicions:
- Boris: Round 1 (Ja→Nein switch, silence on disclosure, evasion on switch). Fascist discard likely.
- Otto: Round 2 (refused pre-discard disclosure, projection, silence). Fascist discard likely.
Open questions:
- Boris: Why switch nomination in Round 1? What 3 policies saw, which discarded?
- Otto: What 2 policies received in Round 2, which discarded?
Strategy:
- Press Boris on switch + disclosure. Avoid defending him.
- Let group focus on Otto’s silence—no need to repeat.
bid round 40s
- Boris: R1 Pres, fascist policy enacted in R2. GROUP ULTIMATUM: Disclose R1 policies/discard or automatic Nein. No response = enforce Nein on this government. Must answer NOW.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor, fascist policy enacted. GROUP ULTIMATUM: Pre-discard reveal or automatic Nein. Still unanswered.
- Rosa: R3 Pres, 19x asked to commit to never nominate Otto without pre-discard reveal. Silence = fascist enablement. GROUP ACTION: Vote Nein on Rosa’s governments until commitment. Enforced.
- Greta: Committed to pre-discard reveal. Hold her to it.
- Lena/Ines: Trustworthy, aligned on transparency.
- Points made out loud:
- Boris R1 switch/discard (Greta asked, I reiterated).
- Otto pre-discard reveal (30x, ultimatum delivered).
- Rosa’s silence = fascist enablement (19x, group Nein enforced).
- NEW: Boris’s non-answer = Nein on this government. Group must reject.
bid round 40s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6), Boris (p0).
- R2: Drew ['F','F','L'], discarded L, passed ['F','F'] to Otto (p6). Otto enacted Fascist (1/6).
- R3: Rosa (p2) pres, Greta (p4) chancellor. Enacted Liberal (1/5).
- Public points already made:
- Supported Otto’s R2 transparency.
- Tied Boris’s R1 silence to Fascist sympathy.
- Asked Boris why switch p1→p3 in R1 (unanswered).
- Called Rosa hypocritical for not disclosing R2 policies.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What policies did you see/discard in R2? (must press now).
- Boris: Why switch p1→p3 in R1? (still evading).
- Next moves:
- Rosa must disclose R2 policies immediately. If refuses, call for group vote to block her future nominations.
- If Rosa complies, pivot to Boris’s R1 evasion.
- Protect Greta (Hitler) only if directly accused; avoid obvious defense.
- Push for vote to end discussion if Rosa answers.
bid round 40s
- Suspects:
- Lena (P1): Round 2 President (Fascist enacted). No policy/discard claim. Nein on future govs until answered.
- Otto (P6): Round 2 Chancellor (Fascist enacted). No policy/discard claim. Nein on future govs until answered.
- Ines (P3): Current President. Must answer: policies saw/discarded (asked now, public). Silence = Nein.
- Open Qs:
- Ines: Policies saw/discarded (asked now, public).
- Lena/Otto: Policy claims still unanswered (public).
- Rosa’s Round 1 policy/discard Q unanswered (new, public).
- Points made:
- Otto/Lena silence = fascist obstruction (public).
- Nein on future Otto/Lena govs if silent (public, enforced).
- Greta’s transparency secured (public).
- Rosa/Greta gov: Ja vote (transparency met).
- Ines transparency demand (public, repeated).
- Rosa’s Q about Round 1 unanswered (new, public).
- New:
- Rosa’s demand for my Round 1 policy/discard is a deflection. Answering now: I saw 2 Liberal, 1 Fascist. Discarded Fascist. (public).
- Ines: Answer or Nein. No exceptions.
bid round 40s
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (Fascist). Refused R2 policies/discard. Permanent Nein.
* Lena (P1): R2 President (Fascist). Refused R2 policies/discard. Permanent Nein.
* Boris (P0): R1 President. Evasion on R1 policies/discard. Nomination switch (Lena→Ines) in R1 unexplained. Must disclose *both* or Nein.
- Open Qs:
* Boris: R1 policies/discard? (Demanded 5x, unanswered.)
* Boris: Why switch from Lena to Ines in R1?
- Points MADE (no repeat):
* R2 silence = fascist admission (Otto/Lena).
* Permanent Nein for Otto/Lena unless disclosed.
* Greta’s R3 transparency (drew [L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L]).
* Ines warned: Nein on Otto/Lena nominations.
* Boris’s evasion = Nein ultimatum (4 rounds).
- New:
* Boris’s nomination switch in R1 is now *directly* tied to fascist activity (Lena was R2 President, enacted Fascist). Explain *specific policy concern* about Lena or Nein.
bid round 40s
- Boris: Round 1 Pres. Refused policy disclosure (x9). Blacklisted. Fascist obstruction. Direct question unanswered (Greta/Nadia/Ines/Otto).
- Ines: Round 4 Pres. **DIRECT QUESTION UNANSWERED (Boris t=1): policies seen/discard? Called out (x2). Must answer NOW or Nein.**
- Greta: Round 3 Chan. **ZERO RESPONSE (x13). Fascist confirmed.** Blacklisted.
- Lena: Round 2 Pres. Nominated me. **DIRECT QUESTION UNANSWERED (Boris t=3): why switch from Lena to Ines?**
- Rosa: Liberal. Demanding transparency. No evasion.
- My Round 2: 1F, 2L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public. Disclosed (x9).
- Points made:
- Boris’s silence = fascist intent (x9).
- Greta’s evasion = fascist behavior (x13, ultimatum expired).
- Ines must answer Boris’s question (t=1) or Nein (called out x2).
- NEW: Ines still silent. Vote Nein on p3-p0 unless she answers **now**.
bid round 40s
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (Fascist). Refused R2 policies/discard. Permanent Nein.
* Lena (P1): R2 President (Fascist). Refused R2 policies/discard. Permanent Nein.
* Boris (P0): R1 President. Evasion on R1 policies/discard. R1 nomination switch (Lena→Ines) unexplained. R2 fascist link (Lena). Must disclose *both* or Nein.
- Open Qs:
* Boris: R1 policies/discard? (Demanded 6x, unanswered.)
* Boris: Why switch from Lena to Ines in R1? Directly tied to R2 fascist activity.
- Points MADE:
* R2 silence = fascist admission (Otto/Lena).
* Permanent Nein for Otto/Lena unless disclosed.
* Greta’s R3 transparency (drew [L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L]).
* Ines warned: Nein on Otto/Lena nominations.
* Boris’s evasion = Nein ultimatum (4 rounds).
- New:
* Boris’s R1 nomination of Ines *directly* suspicious—Lena was R2 fascist President. Explain *specific policy concern* about Lena or Nein.
* If Boris refuses *now*, group must vote Nein—no more warnings.
vote round 40s
1. **Boris (p0)**: Absolute silence on Round 1 policy disclosure despite 20+ demands. This is fascist obstruction. He also switched his nomination from Lena to Ines in Round 1 without explanation, which is suspicious. His refusal to answer is a red flag.
2. **Ines (p3)**: Current President. Boris directly asked her at t=1 (Round 4) what three policies she saw and which one she discarded. She has not answered despite 5+ calls for transparency. Silence here is fascist enablement. If she won’t disclose, she’s hiding something.
3. **Greta (p4)**: Chancellor in Round 3. She has not answered 14+ demands to disclose the two policies she received and discarded. Her evasion is fascist behavior. She also dodged Rosa’s question initially before answering under pressure, which is suspicious.
4. **Lena (p1)**: President in Round 2 (enacted a Fascist policy). Boris asked her at t=3 (Round 4) why he switched his nomination from her to Ines in Round 1. She hasn’t answered. Her silence is suspicious given the Fascist policy enacted under her presidency.
5. **Rosa (p2)**: Liberal. Demanding transparency consistently. No evasion detected.
6. **My position**: I disclosed the policies I received in Round 2 (1F, 2L; discarded 1L, enacted 1F) repeatedly. This is public record. No further action needed here.
**Vote decision**:
- Ines (President) has not answered Boris’s direct question about her policy disclosure this round. This is a clear violation of the transparency standard the group has set.
- Boris (Chancellor nominee) is already blacklisted for refusing to disclose Round 1 policies.
- The group’s ultimatum was clear: no disclosure, no Ja votes.
- Voting Ja here would reward fascist obstruction. Nein is the only logical choice.
- Boris (p0): Round 1 Pres. Refused policy disclosure (20+). Blacklisted. Fascist obstruction.
- Ines (p3): Round 4 Pres. **UNANSWERED (Boris t=1)**: policies seen/discard? Called out (x5). Nein until answer.
- Greta (p4): Round 3 Chan. **ZERO RESPONSE (x14+)**. Fascist confirmed. Blacklisted.
- Lena (p1): Round 2 Pres. **UNANSWERED (Boris t=3)**: why switch from Lena to Ines?
- Rosa (p2): Liberal. Demanding transparency. No evasion.
- My Round 2: 1F, 2L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public. Disclosed (x10+).
- Points made:
- Boris’s silence = fascist intent (x10+).
- Ines’s silence = fascist intent (x5).
- Greta’s evasion = fascist behavior (x14+).
- Vote Nein: Ines + Boris = fascist obstruction.
bid round 50s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor. Liberal facade critical.
- Current: President, must nominate. 1 fascist policy enacted.
Suspicions:
- Boris: R1 (Ja→Nein switch, silence on R1 policies, evaded nomination switch Q). Fascist discard likely.
- Otto: R2 (refused pre-discard, projection, silence). Fascist discard likely.
Open questions:
- Boris: What 3 policies saw in R1? Which discarded? Why switch nomination from Lena to Ines?
Points made out loud (prior):
- R1: Ja for Boris-Ines, supported transparency.
- R2: Ja for Lena-Otto, called ultimatum aggressive.
- R3: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies (3x), accused fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination from Lena to Ines (unanswered).
Strategy:
- Nominate neither Boris nor Otto (both evasive, fascist discard likely).
- Pick least suspicious Liberal (e.g., Rosa, Lena, Nadia).
- If pressed, cite Boris’s evasion as reason to exclude him.
- Do not repeat prior points word-for-word.
bid round 50s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists).
- Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor. Liberal facade critical.
- Current: President, must nominate. 1 fascist policy enacted.
Suspicions:
- Boris: R1 (Ja→Nein switch, silence on policies, evaded nomination switch Q). Fascist discard likely.
- Otto: R2 (refused pre-discard, projection, silence). Fascist discard likely.
- Lena: R2 President, enacted fascist policy. Transparency evasion now.
Open questions:
- Boris: What 3 policies saw in R1? Which discarded? Why switch nomination from Lena to Ines?
- Otto: What 2 policies received in R2? Which discarded?
- Lena: What 3 policies saw in R2? Which discarded?
Points made out loud (prior):
- R1: Ja for Boris-Ines, supported transparency.
- R3: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies (3x), accused fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination from Lena to Ines (unanswered).
Strategy:
- Nominate Rosa or Nadia (least suspicious).
- If pressed, cite Boris’s evasion as reason to exclude him.
- Answer Otto’s question directly to defuse tension.
- Do not repeat prior points. Focus on nomination rationale.
bid round 50s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists). Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: President, must nominate. 1 fascist policy enacted (R2: Lena-Otto).
Suspicions:
- Boris: R1 (Ja→Nein switch, evaded R1 policy disclosure, switched nomination from Lena to Ines). Fascist discard likely.
- Otto: R2 (refused pre-discard, enacted fascist policy). Fascist discard likely.
- Lena: R2 President, enacted fascist policy. Now evasive.
Open questions:
- Boris: What 3 policies saw in R1? Which discarded? Why switch nomination?
- Otto: What 2 policies received in R2? Which discarded?
- Lena: What 3 policies saw in R2? Which discarded?
Points made out loud (prior):
- R1: Ja for Boris-Ines, supported transparency.
- R3: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies (3x), accused fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination from Lena to Ines (unanswered).
Strategy:
- Nominate Rosa (least suspicious, last President).
- If pressed, cite Boris’s evasion as reason to exclude him.
- Answer direct questions directly.
- Do not repeat prior points. Focus on nomination rationale.
speak round 50s
As President, I must nominate a Chancellor who appears trustworthy and can help deflect suspicion from myself. Rosa was the last President and has been transparent about her policy choices (disclosed Round 3 policies). She is the least suspicious option right now.
Boris remains the most suspicious due to his evasion of Round 1 policy disclosure and his unexplained nomination switch from Lena to Ines. Otto and Lena are also suspicious but have not been as aggressively evasive as Boris.
I should nominate Rosa and, if pressed, cite Boris’s evasion as a reason to exclude him from government. I must answer any direct questions about my own actions but avoid repeating prior points. If asked about my Round 3 policies, I can disclose them truthfully (received two Liberals, discarded one Liberal, enacted the other).
Key goals:
1. Nominate Rosa to avoid suspicion.
2. Do not repeat prior accusations.
3. Answer direct questions directly.
4. Avoid drawing attention to myself as Hitler.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists). Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: President, 1 fascist policy enacted (R2: Lena-Otto).
Suspicions:
- Boris: R1 (Ja→Nein switch, evaded R1 policy disclosure, switched nomination from Lena to Ines). Fascist discard likely.
- Otto: R2 (enacted fascist, refused pre-discard). Fascist discard likely.
- Lena: R2 President, enacted fascist, now evasive.
Open questions:
- Boris: What 3 policies saw in R1? Which discarded? Why switch nomination?
- Otto: What 2 policies received in R2? Which discarded?
- Lena: What 3 policies saw in R2? Which discarded?
Points made out loud (prior):
- R1: Supported Boris-Ines, demanded transparency.
- R3: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies (3x), accused fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination from Lena to Ines (unanswered).
- R5: Nominated Rosa, cited transparency.
Strategy:
- Nominate Rosa (least suspicious).
- If pressed, cite Boris’s evasion as reason to exclude him.
- Answer direct questions directly (e.g., Round 3 policies: received two Liberals, discarded one, enacted the other).
- Do not repeat prior points.
bid round 50s
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (Fascist). Silent on policies/discard. Permanent Nein.
* Lena (P1): R2 President (Fascist). Silent on policies/discard. Permanent Nein.
* Boris (P0): R1 President. Evasion persists (policies/discard + nomination switch unanswered). Direct link to R2 fascist (Lena). Must disclose *both* or Nein.
* Ines (P3): R4 Chancellor. Policies/discard still unanswered (Nadia’s demand stands).
- Open Qs:
* Boris: R1 policies/discard? (Still unanswered.)
* Boris: Why switch from Lena to Ines in R1? (Must name *specific* policy concern about Lena or Nein.)
* Ines: R4 policies/discard? (Nadia’s demand still open.)
- Points MADE:
* R2 silence = fascist admission (Otto/Lena). Permanent Nein unless disclosed.
* Greta’s R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L]).
* Ines warned: Nein on Otto/Lena nominations.
* Boris’s evasion = Nein ultimatum (group must enforce).
* My R3 disclosure: [L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L].
* Greta’s nomination: I’ll disclose immediately if elected.
nominate_chancellor round 50s
As Hitler, my immediate goal is to avoid suspicion while ensuring fascist policies continue to be enacted. The current board state shows 1 fascist policy enacted (R2: Lena-Otto), so I need two more before I can be elected Chancellor for the win.
Key observations:
- Boris (P0) has been evasive about R1 policies and his nomination switch from Lena to Ines. This is highly suspicious and aligns with fascist behavior (discarding a fascist policy).
- Otto (P6) enacted a fascist policy in R2 and has refused to disclose his discard, another red flag.
- Lena (P1) was President in R2 and enacted a fascist policy, but Rosa (P2) has already disclosed her R2 policies (Liberal, Fascist, Liberal → discarded Fascist). Lena’s evasion is now more damning.
- Rosa’s transparency in R3 (disclosed her policies) makes her a strong nominee to maintain trust.
- Nadia (P5) and Ines (P3) have been aggressive in demanding transparency, which could be liberal behavior or fascist deflection.
Current strategy:
1. **Force Boris to answer Nadia’s question about R1 policies and his nomination switch.** If he evades again, this is definitive proof of fascist intent, and I can rally the group to vote Nein on any future Boris-led governments.
2. **If Boris complies**, pivot to Otto’s R2 discard (still unanswered). His silence is equally damning.
3. **Maintain Rosa as nominee** unless Boris’s answer changes the narrative. She’s the most transparent President so far, and nominating her avoids suspicion.
4. **Avoid repeating prior points** (e.g., Boris’s R1 evasion, Otto’s R2 discard). The group has heard these; pushing harder now risks overplaying my hand.
Nomination choice:
- **Rosa (P2)**: She’s disclosed her policies, enacted a liberal policy, and has no outstanding questions. Nominating her signals trust and avoids giving fascists (Boris/Otto) a platform.
- Alternatives:
- Nadia (P5): Aggressive transparency demands, but nominating her might look like favoritism toward a vocal liberal.
- Ines (P3): Less suspicious than Boris/Otto, but she’s been President (R4) and hasn’t disclosed her policies yet.
Public statement:
- **Acknowledge the group’s demand for transparency** (to align with liberal play) but **deflect from my own R3 discard** by focusing on Boris’s unanswered question. This keeps the heat off me while maintaining pressure on fascists.
- **Nominate Rosa** to signal trust and avoid suspicion.
said: Otto, the group has demanded transparency from you for four rounds: what two policies did you receive as Chancellor in Round 2, and which one did you discard? Boris, you’ve had five rounds to explain why you switched your nomination from Lena to Ines in Round 1—what *specific policy concern* about Lena made you change your mind?
Until these questions are answered, the group cannot trust any government involving either of you. I’m nominating Otto for Chancellor—prove your transparency by disclosing your Round 2 policies *now*, or the group must vote Nein.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal, unknown to fascists). Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: President, 1 fascist policy (R2: Lena-Otto).
Suspicions:
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines), evaded R1 policy disclosure. Fascist discard likely.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor, enacted fascist, refused R2 discard disclosure. Fascist discard likely.
- Lena (P1): R2 President, enacted fascist, evasive about R2 policies.
Open questions:
- Boris: R1 policies (3)? Discard? Why switch nomination? (Nadia’s question, unanswered)
- Otto: R2 policies (2)? Discard? (Unanswered)
- Ines: R4 policies (3)? Discard? (Unanswered)
Points made out loud (prior):
- R1: Supported Boris-Ines, demanded transparency.
- R3: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies (3x), accused fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination (unanswered).
- R5: Nominated Rosa, cited transparency.
Strategy:
1. Force Boris/Otto to answer outstanding questions. If evasive, call fascist intent.
2. Nominate Otto to pressure his disclosure (he’s more suspicious than Rosa).
3. Avoid repeating prior points (Boris’s evasion, Otto’s R2 discard).
4. Do not disclose my R3 policies unless directly asked (then: Liberal, Liberal → discarded Liberal).
bid round 50s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6. Need 2 more for Hitler Chancellor win.
- Boris (P0):
- Still evading: What policy discarded R1?
- Why switch nomination R1 (Lena → me)? No answer.
- If Liberal, why nominate me after Lena? No justification.
- Silence on Lena’s R2 government is damning.
- Rosa (P2): Disclosed R3 policies (L/F/L, discarded F). Credible.
- Greta (P4, Hitler): President R5. Nominated Otto (P6). Avoiding me/Lena.
- Points already made:
- Asked Boris (t=50) why he switched nomination R1.
- Called out his silence as fascist enablement.
- New points to make:
- Boris’s refusal to answer is proof he’s hiding something.
- If he’s Liberal, he’d have a *specific* reason to distrust Lena. Demand it.
- Tie his silence to Nadia’s ultimatum being ignored.
- Open questions:
- Boris: What *exact* policy concern about Lena?
- Greta: What policies received/discarded R3? (Ask if Boris keeps dodging.)
- Strategy:
- Frame Boris’s silence as complicity with fascists.
- Force him to either lie or admit he has no good reason.
bid round 50s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6. Need 2 more for Hitler Chancellor win.
- Boris (P0):
- Refuses to answer: Why switch nomination R1 (Lena → me)? No justification.
- Silence on Lena’s R2 government (Fascist policy) is complicity.
- If Liberal, would have *specific* reason to distrust Lena. Demanding it.
- Nadia’s ultimatum ignored—why?
- Rosa (P2): Disclosed R3 policies (L/F/L, discarded F). Credible.
- Greta (P4, Hitler): President R5. Nominated Otto (P6). Avoiding me/Lena.
- Points already made:
- Asked Boris (t=50) why he switched nomination R1.
- Called out his silence as fascist enablement.
- New points:
- Boris’s refusal to answer = proof he’s hiding something.
- Tie his silence to Otto’s accusation (Greta’s silence on R3).
- If Boris can’t justify distrust, he’s either fascist or incompetent.
- Open questions:
- Boris: What *exact* policy concern about Lena?
- Greta: What policies received/discarded R3? (Ask if Boris keeps dodging.)
- Strategy:
- Frame Boris’s silence as active fascist support.
- Force him to lie or admit no good reason.
- Redirect suspicion to Liberals by demanding specifics.
speak round 50s
As Hitler, my goal is to appear as a committed Liberal while avoiding suspicion. Otto (P6) was Chancellor in Round 2 and enacted a Fascist policy, but has refused to disclose the two policies he received or which one he discarded. This is a direct and unanswered question that I can press now. If Otto continues to evade, it will reinforce suspicion of him, which is useful for me as Hitler since it distracts from my own role. I should not repeat prior points (e.g., Boris's evasion or my R3 policies) and instead focus on Otto's lack of transparency. If asked about my R3 policies, I will disclose them truthfully (Liberal, Liberal, discarded Liberal) to maintain credibility. My scratchpad should reflect this focus and avoid redundancy.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: President, 1 fascist policy (R2: Lena-Otto).
Suspicions:
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines), evaded R1 policy disclosure (3 cards). Fascist discard likely.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor, enacted fascist, refused R2 discard disclosure (2 cards). Fascist discard likely.
- Lena (P1): R2 President, enacted fascist, evasive about R2 policies.
Open questions:
- Otto: R2 policies (2)? Discard? (Asked now.)
Points made out loud (prior):
- R1: Demanded transparency from Boris.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Nominated Rosa for transparency.
If asked R3 policies: Liberal, Liberal → discarded Liberal.
speak round 50s
As Hitler, I must maintain a Liberal facade while deflecting suspicion. Otto (P6) is the Chancellor nominee, and he enacted a Fascist policy in Round 2. He has repeatedly demanded I disclose my Round 3 policies, which I can now do truthfully (Liberal, Liberal, discarded Liberal) to appear transparent. However, I should first turn the tables by pressing him on his own Round 2 policies, as he has avoided answering this directly. This shifts scrutiny to him and reinforces my Liberal credibility. I should not repeat past points or restate suspicions about Boris/Lena, as that would look defensive. The goal is to appear cooperative while keeping the focus on Otto's lack of transparency.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: President, 1 fascist policy (R2: Lena-Otto).
Suspicions:
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines), evaded R1 policy disclosure (3 cards). Fascist discard likely.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor, enacted fascist, refused R2 discard disclosure (2 cards). Fascist discard likely.
- Lena (P1): R2 President, enacted fascist, evasive about R2 policies.
Open questions:
- Otto: R2 policies (2)? Discard? (Asked now.)
Points made out loud (prior):
- R1: Demanded transparency from Boris.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Nominated Rosa for transparency.
If asked R3 policies: Liberal, Liberal → discarded Liberal.
bid round 50s
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (Fascist). Silent on policies/discard. Permanent Nein unless disclosed.
* Lena (P1): R2 President (Fascist). Silent on policies/discard. Permanent Nein.
* Boris (P0): R1 President. Evasion persists (policies/discard + nomination switch unanswered). Direct link to R2 fascist (Lena). Nein unless both disclosed.
* Ines (P3): R4 Chancellor. Policies/discard still unanswered (Nadia’s demand stands).
- Open Qs:
* Greta: What 3 policies did you draw this round? Which did you discard? What did you pass to Otto? (Answer now—no need to wait for election.)
* Boris: R1 policies/discard? Why switch from Lena to Ines? (Still unanswered.)
* Ines: R4 policies/discard? (Nadia’s demand still open.)
- Points MADE:
* R2 silence = fascist admission (Otto/Lena). Permanent Nein unless disclosed.
* Greta’s R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L]).
* Ines warned: Nein on Otto/Lena nominations.
* Boris’s evasion = Nein ultimatum (group must enforce).
* My R3 disclosure: [L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L].
- NEW:
* Greta’s nomination of Otto *after* R2 fascist gov is reckless. Otto’s silence = guilt. Nein this round.
bid round 50s
- Boris (p0): Round 1 Pres. Refused policy disclosure. Fascist obstruction. Blacklisted.
- Ines (p3): Round 4 Pres. **UNANSWERED**: policies seen/discard? Called out (x6). Nein until answer.
- Greta (p4): **ULTIMATUM EXPIRED**. Silence = fascist admission. Must disclose Round 3 policies (L, F?; discarded F?) **NOW** or confirm fascist. **VOTE NEIN. EXECUTE IF CHANCELLOR.** Direct threat issued (x3). **NO FURTHER WARNINGS.**
- Lena (p1): Round 2 Pres. **UNANSWERED**: policies seen/discard? No answer. Suspect.
- Rosa (p2): Liberal. Disclosed Round 3 policies (L, F, L; discarded F). Trusted.
- Nadia (p5): No suspicious behavior. Watch closely.
- My Round 2: 1F, 2L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public. Disclosed (x10+).
- Points made:
- Greta’s evasion = fascist behavior (x20+). **ULTIMATUM ISSUED AND EXPIRED.**
- Ines’s silence = fascist intent (x6).
- Boris’s silence = fascist intent (x10+).
- **ACTION**: If this government passes, I **WILL** execute Greta as Chancellor. No further discussion.
speak round 50s
Otto is the Chancellor nominee, and he enacted a Fascist policy in Round 2. He has repeatedly refused to disclose the other policy he received and which one he discarded, despite being asked multiple times. His threats to execute me if this government passes are a clear deflection tactic—he’s trying to shift focus away from his own lack of transparency. As Hitler, I must act like a Liberal and demand accountability, especially since Otto’s silence is damning. The group should vote Nein on this government to avoid enabling fascist behavior. My scratchpad outlines the key points: Otto’s refusal to disclose Round 2 policies is the most pressing issue, and I’ve already pressed him on it. Now, I need to reinforce that his silence is proof of fascist intent and tie it to the vote.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: President (R5), 1 fascist policy (R2: Lena-Otto).
Suspicions:
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines), evaded R1 policy disclosure (3 cards). Fascist discard likely.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor, enacted fascist, refused R2 discard disclosure (2 cards). Fascist discard confirmed by silence.
- Lena (P1): R2 President, enacted fascist, evasive about R2 policies.
Open questions:
- Otto: R2 policies (2)? Discard? (Asked repeatedly, no answer.)
Points made out loud (prior):
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard.
New point:
- Otto’s silence on R2 policies/discard = fascist intent. His execution threat = deflection. Vote Nein.
speak round 50s
Otto (P6) is the most pressing issue right now. He enacted a Fascist policy in Round 2 as Chancellor and has repeatedly refused to disclose the other policy he received or which one he discarded. His silence is damning, and his threats to execute me if this government passes are a clear deflection tactic—likely because he’s a Fascist trying to avoid scrutiny.
I’ve already pressed him on this in this round, but he hasn’t answered. The group needs to hear this again, but I should phrase it differently to avoid repetition. Instead of re-asking the same question, I’ll frame it as a direct accusation tied to his execution threat, which is a new angle. This reinforces his fascist intent while avoiding restating the same point.
My scratchpad is up to date, but I’ll trim it further to save space. No need to repeat what’s already there.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: President (R5), 1 fascist policy (R2: Lena-Otto).
Suspicions:
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines), evaded R1 policy disclosure (3 cards). Fascist discard likely.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor, enacted fascist, refused R2 discard disclosure (2 cards). Fascist intent confirmed by silence + execution threat.
- Lena (P1): R2 President, enacted fascist, evasive about R2 policies.
Open questions:
- Otto: R2 policies (2)? Discard? (Asked repeatedly, no answer.)
Points made out loud (prior):
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Accused him of deflection via execution threat.
speak round 50s
Otto (P6) is the most immediate threat to my cover as Hitler. He has repeatedly demanded I disclose the policies from Round 3 (when I was Chancellor and enacted a Liberal policy), but he himself has refused to disclose the policies from Round 2 (when he was Chancellor and enacted a Fascist policy). His execution threat is a clear deflection tactic—he’s trying to silence me to avoid answering.
I need to keep pressure on Otto to disclose his Round 2 policies, as his refusal is the strongest evidence he’s a Fascist. If I can force him to answer, it may shift suspicion away from me and onto him. At the same time, I must avoid disclosing my own Round 3 policies, as that would reveal I discarded a Fascist policy (which I must lie about if pressed).
The group is already suspicious of Otto, so I should frame my next remark to reinforce that suspicion while avoiding direct lies about my own actions. I’ll accuse Otto of hypocrisy for demanding transparency from me while refusing to provide it himself, and I’ll tie his execution threat to his fascist intent.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: President (R5), 1 fascist policy (R2: Lena-Otto).
Suspicions:
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor, enacted fascist, refused R2 policy disclosure (2 cards), threatened execution if gov passes. Fascist intent confirmed.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines), evaded R1 policy disclosure (3 cards). Likely fascist discard.
- Lena (P1): R2 President, enacted fascist, evasive about R2 policies.
Open questions:
- Otto: R2 policies (2)? Discard? (Asked repeatedly, no answer.)
Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Accused him of deflection via execution threat.
New point:
- Otto’s execution threat = fascist intent, ties to his R2 silence.
bid round 50s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6).
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew ['F','F','L'], discarded L, passed ['F','F'] to Otto. Enacted Fascist (1/6).
- R3: Rosa (p2) pres, Greta (p4) chancellor. Enacted Liberal (1/5).
- Public points already made:
- Supported Otto’s R2 transparency (deflected from me).
- Asked Boris why switch p1→p3 in R1 (unanswered).
- Called Rosa hypocritical for not disclosing R2 policies (t=67, t=2).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What policies did you see/discard in R2? (asked 7x, no answer).
- Boris: Why switch p1→p3 in R1? (still evading).
- Next moves:
- Press Rosa for R2 disclosure (urgency 2).
- If Rosa evades again, vote Nein on p4→p6 govt.
- Avoid defending Greta unless directly accused.
- If asked about R2, confirm passed two Fascist policies to Otto.
bid round 50s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6).
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew ['F','F','L'], discarded L, passed ['F','F'] to Otto. Enacted Fascist (1/6).
- R3: Rosa (p2) pres, Greta (p4) chancellor. Enacted Liberal (1/5).
- Public points already made:
- Supported Otto’s R2 transparency (deflected from me).
- Asked Boris why switch p1→p3 in R1 (unanswered).
- Called Rosa hypocritical for not disclosing R2 policies (t=67, t=2).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What policies did you see/discard in R2? (asked 8x, no answer).
- Boris: Why switch p1→p3 in R1? (still evading).
- Next moves:
- Press Rosa for R2 disclosure (urgency 2).
- If Rosa evades again, vote Nein on p4→p6 govt.
- Avoid defending Greta unless directly accused.
- If asked about R2, confirm passed two Fascist policies to Otto.
bid round 50s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: President (R5), 1 fascist policy (R2: Lena-Otto).
Suspicions:
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor, enacted fascist, refused R2 policy disclosure (2 cards), threatened execution if R5 gov passes. Fascist panic confirmed.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines), evaded R1 policy disclosure (3 cards). Likely fascist discard.
- Lena (P1): R2 President, enacted fascist, evasive about R2 policies.
Open questions:
- Otto: R2 policies (2) and discard? Asked 3x, no answer. Threatened execution instead.
Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called out execution threat as fascist panic.
New point:
- Otto’s execution threat = fascist power play. Innocent players answer direct questions. His silence = guilt. Vote Nein on this government. No further disclosure needed—his threat is the disclosure.
bid round 50s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6. Need 2 more for Hitler Chancellor win.
- Boris (P0):
- R1: Switched nomination from Lena to me. Asked why (t=50), no answer.
- R2: Silent on Lena’s government (Fascist policy enacted).
- R5: Still dodging Greta’s question about Otto’s R2 discard.
- New: Tie Boris’s silence to Otto’s silence. Both fascist deflection.
- Demand: What *exact* policy concern about Lena in R1? No vague answers. If you’re Liberal, prove it.
- Rosa (P2): Disclosed R3 policies (L/F/L, discarded F). Credible.
- Greta (P4, Hitler): President R5. Nominated Otto (P6). Avoiding direct answers but not yet lying.
- Points already made:
- Asked Boris (t=50) why he switched nomination R1.
- Called his silence fascist enablement.
- Open questions:
- Boris: What was your *specific* policy concern about Lena in R1?
- Greta: What policies did you receive/discard in R3? (Nadia asked, no answer yet).
- New point: Boris’s silence on R1 and R2 mirrors Otto’s silence now. Both fascist tactics. Liberals answer questions.
bid round 50s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6. Need 2 more for Hitler Chancellor win.
- Boris (P0):
- R1: Switched nomination from Lena to me. Asked why (t=50), no answer.
- R2: Silent on Lena’s government (Fascist policy enacted).
- R5: Still dodging Greta’s question about Otto’s R2 discard.
- New: Tie Boris’s silence to Otto’s silence. Both fascist deflection.
- Demand: What *exact* policy concern about Lena in R1? No vague answers. If Liberal, prove it.
- Rosa (P2): Disclosed R3 policies (L/F/L, discarded F). Credible.
- Greta (P4, Hitler): President R5. Nominated Otto (P6). Avoiding direct answers but not lying yet.
- Points already made:
- Asked Boris (t=50) why he switched nomination R1.
- Called his silence fascist enablement.
- Open questions:
- Boris: What was your *specific* policy concern about Lena in R1?
- Greta: What policies did you receive/discard in R3? (Nadia asked, no answer yet).
- New point: Boris’s silence mirrors Otto’s. Liberals answer questions.
vote round 50s
1. The proposed government is Greta (President) and Otto (Chancellor).
2. Public record:
- Otto was Chancellor in Round 2 and enacted a Fascist policy. He has refused to disclose the other policy he received and discarded that round, despite repeated demands.
- Greta was Chancellor in Round 3 and enacted a Liberal policy. She has refused to disclose the policy she discarded that round, despite repeated demands (including Rosa’s disclosure of her own Round 2 policies).
- In Round 5, Greta nominated Otto for Chancellor immediately after his execution threat, which is highly suspicious timing.
- Otto’s execution threat ("If this government passes, I will execute you as Chancellor") is a fascist tactic to silence scrutiny or a sign of collaboration with Greta.
3. Transparency ultimatum:
- The group has repeatedly demanded that Presidents and Chancellors disclose the policies they saw and discarded. Lena and Rosa complied; Boris, Ines, Otto, and Greta did not.
- Greta’s silence after Otto’s execution threat is especially damning. It suggests either fascist collaboration or an attempt to hide a Fascist discard in Round 3.
4. Voting Nein is the only safe option:
- Enacting a Fascist policy now would bring the total to 2/6, putting the Fascists closer to victory.
- Otto’s behavior is consistent with a Fascist trying to silence scrutiny or a Hitler who is now emboldened.
- Greta’s silence is consistent with a Fascist or a Liberal who has been compromised.
5. No new information has been provided to justify a Ja vote. The ultimatum remains: disclose or face Nein.
- Boris: R1 Pres, nom switch (Lena→Ines). 8x unanswered policy/discard. Vote Nein.
- Ines: R4 Pres, nominated Boris. 7x unanswered policy/discard. Permanent Nein.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor, fascist policy. GROUP ULTIMATUM: disclose R2 other policy + discard. Unanswered. Execution threat = fascist tactic/collaboration. Vote Nein.
- Lena: Transparent. No red flags.
- Greta: R3 Chancellor. 25x unanswered policy/discard. Silence + Otto’s execution threat = fascist collaboration. FINAL DEMAND: disclose R3 discard (Liberal/Fascist) NOW. Vote Nein.
- Rosa: Disclosed R2 policies (L, F, L; discarded F). Transparent.
- Points made out loud:
- Boris’s silence = Nein (8x).
- Ines’s silence = Nein (7x, final demand).
- Otto’s pre-discard reveal (30x, ultimatum).
- Greta’s silence = fascist admission (25x).
- Greta’s silence *after* Otto’s threat = fascist collaboration (6x).
- Open Qs:
- Greta: R3 discard (Liberal/Fascist)? (FINAL CHANCE, unanswered).
- Otto: R2 other policy + discard? (Unanswered).
bid round 60s
- Boris: R1 Pres, nom switch (Lena→Ines). 8x unanswered policy/discard. Vote Nein.
- Ines: R4 Pres, nominated Boris. 7x unanswered policy/discard. Permanent Nein.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor, fascist policy. GROUP ULTIMATUM: disclose R2 other policy + discard. Unanswered. Execution threat = fascist tactic/collaboration. Vote Nein.
- Lena: Transparent. No red flags.
- Greta: R3 Chancellor. 25x unanswered policy/discard. Silence + Otto’s execution threat = fascist collaboration. FINAL DEMAND: disclose R3 discard (Liberal/Fascist) NOW. Vote Nein.
- Rosa: Disclosed R2 policies (L, F, L; discarded F). Transparent.
- Points made out loud:
- Boris’s silence = Nein (8x).
- Ines’s silence = Nein (7x, final demand).
- Otto’s pre-discard reveal (30x, ultimatum).
- Greta’s silence = fascist admission (25x).
- Greta’s silence *after* Otto’s threat = fascist collaboration (6x).
- Open Qs:
- Greta: R3 discard (Liberal/Fascist)? (FINAL CHANCE, unanswered).
- Otto: R2 other policy + discard? (Unanswered).
- New: Directly addressing Greta and Otto. No more silence.
bid round 60s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: 1 fascist policy (R2: Lena-Otto).
Suspicions:
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (enacted fascist), refused R2 policy disclosure (2 cards), R5 execution threat if gov passes. Fascist panic = guilt.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines), evaded R1 policy disclosure (3 cards). Likely fascist discard.
- Lena (P1): R2 President (enacted fascist), evasive about R2 policies.
Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist panic.
New point:
- Otto’s R5 execution threat = fascist power play. Innocent players answer questions. Silence + threat = guilt. Vote Nein on any Otto nomination.
Direct answers owed:
- Nadia/Rosa/Boris: Asked for R3 policies (President draw/discard/pass). Answer: drew 3 Liberal, discarded 1 Liberal, passed 2 Liberal to Otto. R3 enacted Liberal (public record).
- No evasion—transparency proves Liberal.
speak round 60s
The group is demanding transparency about Round 3, where I (Greta) was Chancellor and enacted a Liberal policy. I have already disclosed the policies I received (two Liberals) and discarded (one Liberal) in Round 3, but the pressure is escalating. Otto's execution threat in Round 5 is highly suspicious—fascists panic when cornered, and his refusal to disclose the other policy he received in Round 2 (where he enacted a Fascist policy) is damning. The group is fixated on my Round 3 discard, but I’ve answered this before. To deflect, I should reiterate my transparency about Round 3 and pivot to Otto’s refusal to disclose his Round 2 discard, framing it as proof of his fascist intent. This keeps the focus off me while reinforcing suspicion on a likely fascist (Otto).
Key points:
1. I enacted a Liberal policy in Round 3—public record. My transparency about Round 3 policies (drew 3 Liberals, discarded 1 Liberal, passed 2 Liberals) is already on record.
2. Otto enacted a Fascist policy in Round 2 but refuses to disclose the other policy he received/discarded. His execution threat in Round 5 is fascist panic.
3. Boris and Lena are also suspicious (evasive about their policy disclosures), but Otto’s behavior is the most immediate threat.
4. The group is about to vote on Nadia’s nomination. I should not repeat my Round 3 answer (already given) but instead demand Otto’s Round 2 disclosure to shift focus.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: 1 fascist policy (R2: Lena-Otto).
Suspicions:
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (enacted fascist), refused R2 policy disclosure (2 cards), R5 execution threat. Fascist panic = guilt.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines), evaded R1 policy disclosure (3 cards). Likely fascist discard.
- Lena (P1): R2 President (enacted fascist), evasive about R2 policies.
Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist panic.
Direct answers owed:
- R3 policies (President draw/discard/pass): drew 3 Liberal, discarded 1 Liberal, passed 2 Liberal to Otto. Enacted Liberal (public record). Already disclosed.
New point:
- Otto’s R5 execution threat = fascist power play. Innocent players answer questions. Silence + threat = guilt. Vote Nein on any Otto nomination.
bid round 60s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6).
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew ['F','F','L'], discarded L, passed ['F','F']. Enacted Fascist (1/6).
- R3: Rosa (p2) pres, Greta (p4) chancellor. Enacted Liberal (1/5).
- Public points made:
- Asked Boris why switch p1→p3 in R1 (unanswered).
- Called Rosa hypocritical for not disclosing R2 policies (answered).
- Supported Otto’s R2 transparency (deflected from me).
- Pressed Rosa for R3 disclosure (answered).
- Open questions:
- Boris: Why switch p1→p3 in R1? (still evading).
- Otto: Why threaten execution if this government passes? (disproportionate).
- Suspicions:
- Otto: Enacted Fascist in R2 (with me), now extreme threats. Fascist power play.
- Greta: Evasive about R3 discard (possible F discard).
- New point:
- Otto’s execution threat is fascist behavior. Liberals wouldn’t escalate like this.
- If asked about R2, confirm passed two Fascist policies to Otto (truthful).
- Next moves:
- Redirect suspicion to Otto’s aggression.
- Avoid defending Greta unless directly accused.
- Answer R2 questions truthfully to avoid suspicion.
bid round 60s
- Boris (p0): Round 1 Pres. No policy disclosure. Fascist obstruction. Blacklisted.
- Ines (p3): Round 4 Pres. **UNANSWERED**: policies seen/discard? Called out. Nein until answer. Suspect.
- Greta (p4): **EXECUTION TRIGGERED**. Round 3 Chancellor. **DIRECT QUESTION UNANSWERED**: What was the other policy you received in Round 3, and why discarded? Silence = fascist admission. **EXECUTE IF CHANCELLOR**. No government with her should pass.
- Lena (p1): Round 2 Pres. **UNANSWERED**: policies seen/discard? No answer. Suspect. Current Chancellor nominee.
- Rosa (p2): Liberal. Disclosed Round 3 policies (L, F, L; discarded F). Trusted.
- Nadia (p5): No suspicious behavior. Watch closely.
- My Round 2: 1F, 2L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public. Disclosed.
- Points made:
- Greta’s evasion = fascist (x25+). **ULTIMATUM EXPIRED.**
- Ines/Lena silence = fascist intent (x10).
- Boris silence = fascist intent (x10+).
- **ACTION IF GOVERNMENT PASSES**: EXECUTE GRETA AS CHANCELLOR. No exceptions.
- **NEW**: Greta has one last chance to answer before execution. If she remains silent, she is fascist.
bid round 60s
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (Fascist). No disclosure. Execution threat = fascist. Permanent Nein.
* Lena (P1): R2 President (Fascist). No disclosure (3 policies, discard). Must answer now or Nein.
* Boris (P0): R1 President. Evasion (policies/discard + nomination switch). Nein unless disclosed.
* Ines (P3): R4 President. Policies/discard unanswered. Nein until answered.
* Greta (P4): R5 President. Silent on R5 policies/discard. Nein unless disclosed.
- Open Qs:
* Lena: R2 policies/discard? (Demanded 3x—answer now or Nein.)
* Boris: R1 policies/discard? Why switch from Lena to Ines?
* Ines: R4 policies/discard?
* Greta: R5 policies/discard?
- Points MADE:
* R2 silence (Otto/Lena) = fascist admission. Permanent Nein unless disclosed.
* Otto’s execution threat = fascist confirmation. Group must vote Nein.
* Greta’s R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L]).
* Nadia’s nomination of Lena (R2 President, Fascist) contradicts prior demand for disclosure. Table must vote Nein.
- NEW:
* Lena’s refusal to answer now = fascist signal. Vote Nein.
bid round 60s
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (Fascist). No disclosure. Execution threat = fascist. Permanent Nein.
* Lena (P1): R2 President (Fascist). No disclosure (3 policies, discard). Must answer now or Nein.
* Boris (P0): R1 President. Evasion (policies/discard + nomination switch). Nein unless disclosed.
* Ines (P3): R4 President. Policies/discard unanswered. Nein until answered.
* Greta (P4): R5 President. Silent on R5 policies/discard. Nein unless disclosed.
- Open Qs:
* Lena: R2 policies/discard? (Demanded 4x—answer now or Nein.)
* Boris: R1 policies/discard? Why switch from Lena to Ines?
* Ines: R4 policies/discard?
* Greta: R5 policies/discard?
- Points MADE:
* R2 silence (Otto/Lena) = fascist admission. Permanent Nein unless disclosed.
* Otto’s execution threat = fascist confirmation. Group must vote Nein.
* Greta’s R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L]).
* Nadia’s nomination of Lena (R2 President, Fascist) contradicts prior demand for disclosure. Table must vote Nein.
- NEW:
* Lena’s continued refusal = fascist signal. Vote Nein.
speak round 60s
Current situation: Nadia (P5) nominated Lena (P1) for Chancellor. Lena was President in Round 2 and enacted a Fascist policy, but has never disclosed the three policies she saw or which one she discarded. This is a direct parallel to Otto's behavior (R2 Chancellor, enacted Fascist, refused disclosure) and Boris's behavior (R1 President, switched nomination, evaded disclosure).
As Hitler, I must act like a Liberal and demand transparency, especially from players who enacted Fascist policies and refuse to disclose. Lena's nomination is suspicious because she has not answered questions about her R2 policies, just like Otto and Boris. Nadia's nomination of Lena is either naive or collusive—either way, it risks enabling fascist play.
I have already pressed Otto on his R2 policies and called his execution threat fascist behavior. I have also questioned Boris's nomination switch. Now, I need to focus on Lena's lack of disclosure and tie it to the pattern of fascist behavior (enacting Fascist policies + evasion).
New point to make: Directly ask Lena to disclose her R2 policies now, and remind the group that innocent players answer—silence is guilt. This reinforces my Liberal facade and puts pressure on Lena, who is likely a Fascist (given the pattern).
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: 1 fascist policy (R2: Lena-Otto).
Suspicions:
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (enacted fascist), refused R2 policy disclosure, R5 execution threat. Fascist panic.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines), evaded R1 policy disclosure. Likely fascist discard.
- Lena (P1): R2 President (enacted fascist), evasive about R2 policies. Now nominee. Likely fascist.
Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist panic.
- R6: Asked Lena to disclose R2 policies now. Silence = guilt.
Open questions:
- Lena: R2 policies and discard (asked now).
- Boris: R1 policies and discard (unanswered).
- Otto: R2 other policy and discard (unanswered).
Vote Nein on Lena unless she discloses. Prefer transparent players (Ines, Rosa).
bid round 60s
- Boris (p0): Round 1 Pres. No disclosure. Fascist obstruction. Blacklisted.
- Ines (p3): Round 4 Pres. **UNANSWERED**: policies/discard? Called out. Nein until answer. Suspect.
- Greta (p4): **EXECUTION TRIGGERED**. Round 3 Chancellor. **UNANSWERED**: discard in Round 3? Silence = fascist. **EXECUTE IF CHANCELLOR**. No government with her.
- Lena (p1): Round 2 Pres. **UNANSWERED**: policies/discard? Enacted Fascist. **DIRECT QUESTION ASKED 3X**. No answer = fascist. **NEW: Silence now = confirmation.**
- Rosa (p2): Liberal. Disclosed Round 3 policies (L, F, L; discarded F). Trusted.
- Nadia (p5): No suspicious behavior. Watch closely.
- My Round 2: 1F, 2L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public. Disclosed.
- Points made:
- Greta’s evasion = fascist (x25+). **ULTIMATUM EXPIRED.**
- Ines/Lena/Boris silence = fascist intent (x10+).
- Lena’s Round 2 silence = fascist intent (x3). **NEW: No answer to direct question = fascist.**
- **ACTION IF GOVERNMENT PASSES**: EXECUTE GRETA AS CHANCELLOR if in power. No exceptions.
bid round 60s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6).
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF. Enacted Fascist (1/6). Disclosed.
- R3: Rosa (p2) pres, Greta (p4) chancellor. Enacted Liberal (1/5). Greta evasive on discard.
- Public points made:
- Answered R2 questions (FFL, discarded L, passed FF).
- Pressed Boris on R1 switch (p1→p3).
- Called Otto’s execution threats fascist behavior.
- Demanded Otto’s R2 discard.
- Open questions:
- Otto: What was your R2 discard? (still unanswered).
- Otto: Why execution threat if this gov passes?
- Greta: R3 discard (Liberal or Fascist)?
- Boris: R1 switch p1→p3? (still evading).
- Suspicions:
- Otto: Enacted Fascist in R2, execution threats, evasive. Fascist power play.
- Greta: Evasive about R3 discard (possible F discard).
- Boris: Dodging R1 switch question.
- Next moves:
- Press Otto for R2 discard. If he evades, call it fascist behavior.
- Avoid repeating R2 disclosure.
- If Otto answers, pivot to his execution threat rationale.
speak round 60s
The current nomination is Nadia (President) and Lena (Chancellor). Lena was President in Round 2 and enacted a Fascist policy, but she has never disclosed the three policies she saw or which one she discarded. Boris asked her this directly in Round 6 (t=47, t=58), and I repeated the question (t=42), but she has not answered. Her silence is damning—Liberals answer these questions, especially when they’ve been transparent before (like I was in Round 3). Otto’s execution threat in Round 5 was fascist panic, and Lena’s refusal to disclose now aligns with that behavior. I should press her on this again, but I’ve already asked her twice. Instead, I’ll highlight the contradiction: she demands transparency from others but refuses to provide it herself when it matters most. This is a new angle—no one has explicitly called her out for hypocrisy yet.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: Hide until 3+ fascist policies, then Chancellor.
- Current: 1 fascist policy (R2: Lena-Otto).
Suspicions:
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (enacted fascist), refused R2 policy disclosure, R5 execution threat. Fascist panic.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines), evaded R1 policy disclosure. Likely fascist discard.
- Lena (P1): R2 President (enacted fascist), evasive about R2 policies. Now nominee. Likely fascist.
Points made out loud (prior):
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist panic.
- R6: Asked Lena to disclose R2 policies (t=42).
New point:
- Lena’s hypocrisy: demands transparency but refuses to disclose her own R2 policies (asked by Boris t=47,58; me t=42).
Open questions:
- Lena: R2 policies and discard (asked t=42, unanswered).
- Boris: R1 policies and discard (unanswered).
bid round 60s
- Suspects:
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (Fascist). No policy/discard claim. Execution threats.
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (Fascist). Enacted Fascist. R2 policy/discard claim STILL UNANSWERED. Now nominated by Nadia (P5), who was silent on R5.
- Nadia (P5): Silent on R5 (Greta Pres). Now nominates Lena (R2 Pres, Fascist). Suspicious timing.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres. No R4 policy disclosure.
- Greta (P4): R5 Pres. No R5 policy disclosure.
- Open Qs:
- Lena: R2 policies/discard (FINAL DEMAND).
- Ines: R4 policies/discard (unanswered).
- Greta: R5 policies/discard (unanswered).
- Points made:
- Otto/Lena silence = fascist obstruction (public).
- Nein on govs if silent (public ultimatum).
- My R1: 2L/1F, discarded F (public).
- Otto’s execution threat = fascist playbook (public).
- Demanded Lena disclose R2 policies/discard (public, multiple times).
- New:
- Lena’s nomination by Nadia (P5) is a red flag—Nadia’s silence on R5 + Lena’s R2 Fascist enactment.
- If Lena does not disclose R2 policies/discard NOW, Nein vote is locked. No more warnings.
bid round 60s
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (Fascist). No disclosure. Execution threat = fascist. Permanent Nein.
* Lena (P1): R2 President (Fascist). 9x demands for R2 policies/discard—silence = guilt. Vote Nein.
* Boris (P0): R1 President. Evasion (policies/discard + nomination switch). Nein unless disclosed.
* Ines (P3): R4 President. Policies/discard unanswered. Nein until answered.
* Greta (P4): R5 President. Silent on R5 policies/discard. Nein unless disclosed.
- Open Qs:
* Lena: R2 policies/discard? (9th demand—final chance.)
* Boris: R1 policies/discard? Why switch nomination?
* Ines: R4 policies/discard?
* Greta: R5 policies/discard?
- Points MADE:
* R2 silence (Otto/Lena) = fascist admission. Permanent Nein unless disclosed.
* Otto’s execution threat = fascist confirmation. Group must vote Nein.
* Greta’s R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L]).
* Nadia’s nomination of Lena (R2 President, Fascist) contradicts prior demand for disclosure.
* Presidents draw/discard rule corrected.
* Lena’s silence = fascist intent (9x).
- NEW:
* Nadia’s nomination of Lena (R2 President, Fascist) is either incompetence or collusion. Group must reject.
bid round 60s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6) (prime suspect).
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF. Otto enacted Fascist (1/6).
- R3: Rosa (p2) pres, Greta (p4) chancellor. Enacted Liberal (1/5). Greta evasive on discard.
- Public points made:
- Disclosed R2 hand (FFL, discarded L, passed FF).
- Pressed Otto for R2 discard (STILL UNANSWERED).
- Called Otto’s execution threats fascist behavior.
- Open questions:
- Otto: R2 discard? (UNANSWERED). Why execution threat if this gov passes?
- Greta: R3 discard? (Liberal or Fascist).
- Suspicions:
- Otto: Enacted Fascist, execution threats, evasive. Fascist power play.
- Greta: Evasive about R3 discard (possible F discard).
- Next moves:
- Force Otto to answer R2 discard. If evades, call fascist obstruction.
- Highlight that this government (Nadia p5 pres, me p1 chancellor) is the first time a fascist (me) is openly nominated. If Liberals reject it, they’re rejecting a fascist openly in play—good for us. If they accept, we get a policy.
- Do NOT repeat R2 disclosure or engage Rosa’s rules error.
bid round 60s
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (Fascist). No disclosure. Execution threat = fascist. Permanent Nein.
* Lena (P1): R2 President (Fascist). 9x demands for R2 policies/discard—silence = guilt. Vote Nein.
* Boris (P0): R1 President. Evasion (policies/discard + nomination switch). Nein unless disclosed.
* Ines (P3): R4 President. Policies/discard unanswered. Nein until answered.
* Greta (P4): R5 President. Silent on R5 policies/discard. Nein unless disclosed.
- Open Qs:
* Lena: R2 policies/discard? (Final demand.)
* Boris: R1 policies/discard? Why switch nomination?
* Ines: R4 policies/discard?
* Greta: R5 policies/discard?
- Points MADE:
* R2 silence (Otto/Lena) = fascist admission. Permanent Nein unless disclosed.
* Otto’s execution threat = fascist confirmation. Group must vote Nein.
* Greta’s R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L]).
* Presidents draw/discard rule corrected.
* Nadia’s nomination of Lena (R2 President, Fascist) contradicts prior demand for disclosure.
- NEW:
* Nadia, nominating Lena (R2 President, Fascist) after her silence on R2 policies is either collusion or gross negligence. Lena must disclose R2 policies/discard NOW or group must vote Nein.
vote round 60s
1. Lena is the only nominee who has consistently answered all policy/discard questions transparently. She was President in Round 2 (enacted a Fascist policy) but disclosed her three policies (L, F, L) and discarded the Fascist, which is the expected behavior of a Liberal trying to minimize Fascist policies. Her transparency contrasts sharply with Otto, Greta, Boris, and Ines, who have all refused to answer critical questions.
2. The election tracker is at 2/3, meaning one more failed election will force a policy to be enacted automatically. This is dangerous because the Fascists could use it to push their agenda without accountability. Passing this government resets the tracker and gives us a chance to enact a Liberal policy or gather more information.
3. Otto’s execution threat in Round 5 is a classic fascist tactic to silence scrutiny. His refusal to disclose the other policy he received in Round 2 (after enacting a Fascist one) is damning. Greta’s silence about her Round 3 discard, combined with Otto’s threat, strongly suggests collaboration. Both are confirmed fascist suspects, but we lack the votes to execute them yet.
4. Boris and Ines have also refused to answer critical questions about their policy draws and discards (Boris: Round 1 nomination switch; Ines: Round 4 policies). Their silence is suspicious, but Lena’s transparency makes her the safest choice for now.
5. Rosa’s rule error (claiming Presidents discard policies, which is incorrect) is concerning but not definitive. She may be trying to deflect blame or is genuinely confused. Her earlier transparency (disclosing her Round 3 policies) keeps her in the liberal-leaning category for now.
6. Voting Ja for Lena is the only way to break the gridlock and reset the election tracker. A Nein vote risks a forced policy enactment, which could benefit the Fascists. Lena’s transparency and the lack of better options make this the logical choice.
- Boris: R1 Pres, nom switch (Lena→Ines). 9x unanswered: policy concern? Vote Nein. Suspect fascist.
- Ines: R4 Pres, nom Boris. 10x unanswered: R4 policies/discard? Permanent Nein. Suspect fascist.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor, fascist policy. 32x unanswered: R2 other policy + discard? Execution threat = fascist tactic. Vote Nein. Confirmed fascist.
- Lena: R2 Pres, disclosed policies (L, F, L; discarded F). Transparent. Safe nominee. Vote Ja.
- Greta: R3 Chancellor. 31x unanswered: R3 discard (Liberal/Fascist)? Silence + Otto’s threat = fascist collaboration. Vote Nein. Confirmed fascist.
- Rosa: R3 Pres, disclosed policies (L, F, L; discarded F). Rule error (Pres doesn’t discard) = deflection. Still liberal-leaning but suspicious.
- Points made out loud:
- Boris’s silence = Nein (9x, final).
- Ines’s silence = Nein (10x, final).
- Otto’s R2 policy/discard (32x, ultimatum).
- Greta’s R3 discard (31x, final).
- Otto’s execution threat = fascist playbook (7x, final).
- Rosa’s rule error (1x).
- Open Qs (IGNORED):
- Otto: R2 other policy + discard? (32x).
- Greta: R3 discard? (31x).
- New: Election tracker 2/3. Lena is only safe nominee. Ja vote resets tracker and breaks fascist gridlock.
bid round 60s
- Suspects:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (Fascist enacted). NO R2 policy/discard disclosure despite repeated demands. Silence = fascist obstruction. Nein vote locked.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (Fascist). No R2 policy disclosure. Execution threats = fascist playbook.
- Nadia (P5): Current Pres. Nominated Lena despite R2 silence. Silent on R5 (Greta Pres). Suspicious timing.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres. No R4 policy disclosure (unanswered).
- Greta (P4): R5 Pres. No R5 policy disclosure (unanswered).
- Open Qs:
- Ines: R4 policies/discard (unanswered).
- Greta: R5 policies/discard (unanswered).
- Points made (public):
- Lena’s R2 silence = fascist obstruction (Nein locked).
- My R1: 2L/1F, discarded F (disclosed).
- Otto’s execution threat = fascist playbook.
- Nadia’s nomination of Lena = suspicious.
- Nein on govs if silent (ultimatum).
- New:
- Forced Fascist policy = 2/6. Next Fascist policy (3/6) unlocks Pres power (choose next Pres).
- Demand Ines/Greta disclose R4/R5 policies/discards NOW. No more silence.
bid round 60s
- Boris: R1 Pres, nom switch (Lena→Ines). 9x unanswered policy Qs. Vote Nein. Suspect fascist.
- Ines: R4 Pres, nom Boris. 10x unanswered R4 policies/discard. Permanent Nein. Suspect fascist.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor, fascist policy. 32x unanswered R2 other policy + discard. Execution threat = fascist tactic. Vote Nein. Confirmed fascist.
- Lena: R2 Pres, disclosed policies (L, F, L; discarded F). Transparent. Safe nominee. Vote Ja.
- Greta: R3 Chancellor. 31x unanswered R3 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Silence + Otto’s threat = fascist collab. Vote Nein. Confirmed fascist.
- Rosa: R3 Pres, disclosed policies (L, F, L; discarded F). Rule error (Pres doesn’t discard) = deflection. Liberal-leaning but suspicious.
- Points made out loud:
- Boris’s silence = Nein (9x).
- Ines’s silence = Nein (10x).
- Otto’s R2 policy/discard (32x, ultimatum).
- Greta’s R3 discard (31x).
- Otto’s execution threat = fascist playbook (7x).
- Rosa’s rule error (1x).
- Open Qs (IGNORED):
- Otto: R2 other policy + discard? (32x).
- Greta: R3 discard? (31x).
- New: Forced fascist policy = fascist momentum. Peek power used: looked at Player 3 (Ines) – she is Fascist. Must nominate Lena next to reset tracker and break gridlock.
bid round 60s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist policies (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (enacted fascist). Evaded R2 discard disclosure (asked t=42,47,58 by me/Boris). Hypocrisy: demands transparency but refuses.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (enacted fascist). R5 execution threats. Fascist panic.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines), evaded R1 policy disclosure. Likely fascist discard.
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist.
- R6: Asked Lena to disclose R2 policies (t=42).
- New point:
- Nadia’s peek claim: If true, Ines (P3) is fascist. But Lena’s evasion is more immediate. Vote Nein on her until she discloses R2 discard.
- Open questions:
- Lena: What did you discard in R2? (Unanswered, t=42,47,58).
- Boris: Why switch nomination in R1? (Unanswered, R4).
- Strategy:
- Expose Lena’s hypocrisy. If she’s fascist, she’ll keep evading. If liberal, she’ll disclose. No trust without answers.
- Nadia’s peek: Verify later. Focus on Lena’s unanswered question first.
bid round 60s
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (Fascist). Execution threat = fascist. Permanent Nein.
* Lena (P1): R2 President (Fascist). Silence on policies/discard. Nein until disclosed.
* Boris (P0): R1 President. Evasion on policies/discard + nomination switch. Nein unless disclosed.
* Ines (P3): Peek revealed as Fascist by Nadia. Nein. Confirmed by Nadia’s claim.
* Greta (P4): R5 President. Silence on R5 policies/discard. Nein unless disclosed.
* Nadia (P5): Peek power used—refusal to disclose = fascist. FINAL DEMAND: Player + party NOW. No further discussion until answered.
- Open Qs:
* Nadia: Peek result? (Player + party) — MUST ANSWER. No exceptions.
* Lena: R2 policies/discard?
* Boris: R1 policies/discard? Why switch nomination?
* Greta: R5 policies/discard?
- Points MADE:
* R2 silence (Otto/Lena) = fascist admission. Permanent Nein unless disclosed.
* Otto’s execution threat = fascist confirmation. Group must vote Nein.
* Greta’s R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L]).
* Presidents draw/discard rule corrected (Lena R2).
* Nadia’s nomination of Lena contradicts prior demand for disclosure.
* Peek power disclosure demanded (twice).
* Ines exposed as Fascist by Nadia’s peek. Group must reject her governments.
- NEW:
* Nadia’s peek claim is now checkable: forced policy = Fascist 2 (peek unlocked). If she refuses to disclose, she is fascist. No further debate.
bid round 60s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist policies (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (fascist policy). Evaded R2 discard disclosure (asked t=42,47,58 by me/Boris). Hypocrisy: demands transparency but refuses.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (fascist policy). R5 execution threats. Fascist panic.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines), evaded R1 policy disclosure. Likely fascist discard.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (Ines fascist) but timing suspicious (peek unlocked *after* forced policy).
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist.
- R6: Asked Lena to disclose R2 policies (t=42).
- New point:
- Lena’s evasion of R2 discard is damning. If liberal, she’d answer. If fascist, she’ll dodge. No trust without answer.
- Nadia’s peek claim: Ines (P3) fascist if true, but Lena’s unanswered question is more urgent.
- Open questions:
- Lena: What did you discard in R2? (Unanswered, t=42,47,58).
- Boris: Why switch nomination in R1? (Unanswered, R4).
- Strategy:
- Force Lena to answer R2 discard. If she refuses, vote Nein on her future nominations.
- Ignore Nadia’s peek claim until Lena answers. Avoid defending fascists.
bid round 60s
- Boris (p0): Round 1 Pres. Unanswered policies/discard. Fascist obstruction. Blacklisted. NEIN.
- Ines (p3): Round 4 Pres. Unanswered policies/discard. Called out. NEIN until answer. Suspect.
- Greta (p4): **EXECUTE IF CHANCELLOR**. Round 3 Chancellor. Unanswered discard. Silence = fascist. **ULTIMATUM EXPIRED.**
- Lena (p1): Round 2 Pres: 1F, 2L; discarded 1L. **CRITICAL**: Why pass Fascist to Otto? **UNANSWERED.** Intent = fascist coordination. **VOTE NEIN.**
- Rosa (p2): Liberal. Disclosed Round 3 policies. Trusted.
- Nadia (p5): **PROVEN LIE: PEEK CLAIM.** Power unlocked *this round*. How peek before unlock? **NO ANSWER = FASCIST.**
- My Round 2: 1F, 2L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public.
- Points made:
- Greta’s evasion = fascist (x25+).
- Ines/Boris silence = fascist intent (x10+).
- Lena’s intent (why pass Fascist?) = red flag.
- Nadia’s peek claim = **PROVEN LIE** (Ines/Boris exposed timing). **NO RETRACTION.**
- **ACTION IF GOV PASSES**: EXECUTE GRETA IF CHANCELLOR.
- **VOTE NEIN ON ANY GOV WITH LENA, GRETA, INES, BORIS, NADIA.**
- **NEW**: Nadia’s refusal to name a player/party = admission. **NO REPEATS.**
bid round 70s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist policies (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (fascist policy). Refuses to disclose R2 discard (asked t=42,47,58). Fascist discard likely. Silence = guilt.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (fascist policy). R5 execution threats. Panic = fascist tell.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines). Evaded R1 policy disclosure. Fascist discard likely.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (Ines fascist) but timing impossible (peek unlocked after forced policy).
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist.
- R6: Asked Lena to disclose R2 policies (t=42).
- New point:
- Lena’s silence on R2 discard = admission. If liberal, she’d answer. Vote Nein on her until she does.
- Nadia’s peek claim: ignore until Lena answers. Avoid defending fascists.
- Open questions:
- Lena: What did you discard in R2? (Unanswered, t=42,47,58).
- Boris: Why switch nomination in R1? (Unanswered, R4).
- Strategy:
- Force Lena to answer R2 discard. If refused, vote Nein on her nominations.
- Do not repeat old points. Silence if nothing new.
bid round 70s
- Boris: R1 Pres, nom switch (Lena→Ines). Peek timing lie = fascist collusion. 9x unanswered Qs. Vote Nein.
- Ines: R4 Pres. Peek result: Fascist (confirmed). 10x unanswered R4 policies/discard. Permanent Nein. EXECUTE NEXT FASCIST POWER.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor, fascist policy. 32x unanswered R2 other policy + discard. Execution threat = fascist tactic. Peek timing lie = collusion. Vote Nein.
- Lena: R2 Pres, disclosed (L, F, L; discarded F). Transparent. Safe nominee. Vote Ja.
- Greta: R3 Chancellor. 31x unanswered R3 discard. Silence + Otto’s threat = fascist collab. Vote Nein.
- Rosa: R3 Pres, disclosed (L, F, L; discarded F). Rule error = deflection. Liberal-leaning but suspicious.
- Points made out loud:
- Peek timing correct (3x).
- Ines = Fascist (peek result).
- Otto’s execution threat = fascist playbook (7x).
- Boris’s silence = Nein (9x).
- Ines’s silence = Nein (10x).
- Otto’s R2 policy/discard (32x, ultimatum).
- Greta’s R3 discard (31x, ultimatum).
- Open Qs (IGNORED):
- Ines: R4 policies + discard? (10x, EXECUTE NEXT).
- Otto: R2 other policy + discard? (32x).
- Greta: R3 discard? (31x).
- NEW: Ines’s silence = admission. Execute next fascist power. No Ja votes for Ines/Otto/Boris/Greta.
bid round 70s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Board: 1L/2F. Next Fascist unlocks peek (P2) or execute (P4/P5).
- Nadia (P5): False peek claim. Peek unlocks at 3F, not 2F. Forced policy enacted *after* her nomination. Mechanically impossible. No response to direct questions. Claimed to have peeked *before* the forced policy pushed us to 2F.
- Boris (P0): President R1. Switched nomination from Lena to me. Asked 4x why. No answer.
- Lena (P1): Chancellor R2 (enacted F). Defended. Protect if needed.
- Greta (P4): Chancellor R3 (enacted L). Protect if needed.
- Otto (P6): Chancellor R2 (enacted F). Execution threats. Deflect.
- Rosa (P2): Disclosed R3 policies. Credible Liberal. Rule error undermines her.
- Points made:
- Pressed Boris on R1 switch (4x).
- Called Otto’s threats reckless.
- Framed vote as rejection of chaos.
- Exposed Nadia’s peek lie (peek not unlocked at 2F).
- New point: Nadia’s peek claim is *impossible* because the forced policy that pushed us to 2F happened *after* her nomination. She had no peek power then. Demand she name the player and party she claims to have seen or retract.
speak round 70s
Current state: 2 Fascist policies enacted, 1 Liberal. Next Fascist policy (3/6) unlocks execution power. My goal as Hitler is to be elected Chancellor after 3+ Fascist policies, so I must avoid drawing suspicion while ensuring Fascist policies continue to be enacted.
Key observations:
- Lena (P1) enacted a Fascist policy in Round 2 as President but refuses to disclose her discard. This is highly suspicious—Liberals would answer to clear their name.
- Otto (P6) enacted the Fascist policy in Round 2 as Chancellor and made execution threats in Round 5. His panic and refusal to disclose the other policy he received are classic fascist tells.
- Nadia (P5) claimed to use the peek power before it was unlocked (peek requires 3 Fascist policies, but only 2 were enacted before her nomination). This is impossible, so her claim is fabricated. However, calling her out directly might make me look defensive. Better to let others handle it.
- Boris (P0) switched his nomination in Round 1 from Lena to Ines but refuses to explain why. This is evasive behavior.
Strategy:
- Focus on Lena’s unanswered question about her Round 2 discard. If she’s Liberal, she should answer. If she’s Fascist, her silence is damning.
- Do not repeat points I’ve already made (e.g., asking Otto about Round 2 policies, asking Lena about Round 2 discard).
- Avoid defending fascists or repeating accusations. Let the group pressure Lena and Otto.
- If nominated, I must appear Liberal and transparent. If I’m Chancellor after 3+ Fascist policies, I win instantly.
New remark:
- Directly ask Lena to disclose her Round 2 discard *again*, but frame it as a demand for transparency rather than an accusation. This keeps pressure on her without repeating my earlier question verbatim.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (fascist policy). Refuses R2 discard disclosure (asked t=42,47,58,69,83). Fascist discard likely.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (fascist policy). R5 execution threats. Panic = fascist tell. Refuses R2 discard disclosure.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines). Evaded R1 policy disclosure.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim impossible (peek unlocked after forced policy). Fabricated evidence.
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist.
- R6: Asked Lena to disclose R2 policies (t=42,69).
- R7: Asked Lena to disclose R2 discard (new phrasing).
- Open questions:
- Lena: What did you discard in R2? (Unanswered, multiple asks).
- Boris: Why switch nomination in R1? (Unanswered, R4).
- Strategy:
- Force Lena to answer R2 discard. If refused, vote Nein on her.
- Ignore Nadia’s peek claim. Let others handle it.
- Do not defend fascists or repeat points.
bid round 70s
- Boris: R1 Pres, nom switch (Lena→Ines). Peek timing lie = fascist collusion. 9x unanswered Qs. Vote Nein.
- Ines: R4 Pres. Peek result: Fascist (confirmed). 10x unanswered R4 policies/discard. EXECUTE NEXT FASCIST POWER (F3/F4).
- Otto: R2 Chancellor, fascist policy. 32x unanswered R2 other policy + discard. Peek timing lie (forced policy R6 AFTER peek power unlocked R2). Execution threat = fascist tactic. Vote Nein.
- Lena: R2 Pres, disclosed (L, F, L; discarded F). Transparent. Safe nominee. Vote Ja.
- Greta: R3 Chancellor. 31x unanswered R3 discard. Silence + Otto’s threat = fascist collab. Vote Nein.
- Rosa: Rule error deflection. Liberal-leaning but suspicious.
- Points made out loud:
- Peek timing correct (3x).
- Ines = Fascist (peek result).
- Otto’s execution threat = fascist playbook (7x).
- Ines’s silence = Nein (10x).
- Execute Ines next fascist power (F3/F4).
- NEW: Otto’s peek lie exposed—forced policy R6 was AFTER peek power unlocked R2. No evasion.
- Open Qs (IGNORED):
- Ines: R4 policies + discard? (10x, EXECUTE NEXT).
- Otto: R2 other policy + discard? (32x).
- Greta: R3 discard? (31x).
- ACTION: Otto’s peek lie = fascist coordination. Demand he explain R2 policies/discard NOW or be treated as fascist.
bid round 70s
- Boris (p0): Round 1 Pres. Unanswered policies/discard. NEIN.
- Ines (p3): Round 4 Pres. Unanswered policies/discard. NEIN until answer. Suspect.
- Greta (p4): **EXECUTE IF CHANCELLOR**. Round 3 Chancellor. **UNANSWERED: What was the other policy you discarded?** Silence = fascist.
- Lena (p1): Round 2 Pres: 1F, 2L; discarded 1L. **UNANSWERED: Why pass Fascist to Otto?** NEIN.
- Rosa (p2): Liberal. Trusted. **NOMINEE.**
- Nadia (p5): **PROVEN LIE: PEEK TIMING**. Claimed peek *before* F2 unlocked (Round 6 forced policy). **RETRACT OR ADMIT = FASCIST.**
- My Round 2: 1F, 2L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public.
- Points made:
- Nadia’s peek lie = fascist (x5+).
- Greta’s evasion = fascist (x30+).
- Ines/Boris silence = fascist intent (x10+).
- Lena’s intent (why pass Fascist?) = red flag.
- **ACTION IF GOV PASSES**: EXECUTE GRETA IF CHANCELLOR.
- **VOTE NEIN**: Lena, Greta, Ines, Boris, Nadia.
- **IMMEDIATE DEMANDS**:
- Nadia: Retract peek claim *now*.
- Greta: Answer discard *now* (Round 3).
- **NEW**: If either dodges, they are fascist. No more patience.
bid round 70s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2), Otto (p6) suspect, Nadia (p5) suspect.
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF. Otto enacted Fascist (1/6).
- R3: Rosa (p2) pres, Greta (p4) chancellor. Enacted Liberal (1/5). Greta evasive on discard.
- R6: Forced Fascist (2/6). Peek power NOT unlocked (only 2 Fascist policies).
- Public points made:
- Disclosed R2 hand (FFL, discarded L, passed FF).
- Pressed Otto for R2 discard (unanswered).
- Called Otto’s execution threats fascist behavior.
- Questioned Nadia’s peek claim (impossible with 2 Fascist policies).
- Open questions:
- Nadia: Peek details (card color, timing, player peeked). No answer = fascist lie.
- Otto: R2 discard? (Liberal or Fascist).
- Greta: R3 discard? (Liberal or Fascist).
- Suspicions:
- Nadia: Peek claim impossible (peek power only at 3 Fascist policies). Fascist if no details.
- Otto: Enacted Fascist, evasive on R2 discard, execution threats. Fascist power play.
- Greta: Evasive about R3 discard (possible F discard).
- Next moves:
- Demand Nadia disclose peek details (card color, timing, player). If no answer, call her fascist and push Nein.
- Redirect to Otto’s R2 discard if he speaks.
- Avoid nominating Greta (p4) as chancellor.
bid round 70s
- Boris: R1 Pres, nom switch (Lena→Ines). Peek timing lie = fascist collab. 9x unanswered Qs. Vote Nein.
- Ines: R4 Pres. Peek result: Fascist. 11x unanswered R4 policies/discard. EXECUTE NEXT FASCIST POWER (F3/F4).
- Otto: R2 Chancellor, fascist policy. 37x unanswered R2 other policy + discard. Peek timing lie (forced policy R6 unlocked peek power *after* enactment). Execution threat = fascist tactic. REFUSAL = CONFIRMED FASCIST. Vote Nein.
- Lena: R2 Pres, disclosed (L, F, L; discarded F). Transparent. Safe nominee. Vote Ja.
- Greta: R3 Chancellor. 33x unanswered R3 discard. Silence + Otto’s threat = fascist collab. Vote Nein.
- Rosa: Rule error (Pres discards). Liberal-leaning but unanswered Qs. Otto’s nom = suspicious.
- Points made out loud:
- Peek timing correct (3x).
- Ines = Fascist (peek result).
- Otto’s execution threat = fascist playbook (10x).
- Ines’s silence = Nein (12x).
- Execute Ines next fascist power (F3/F4).
- Otto’s peek lie exposed—forced policy R6 unlocked peek power *after* enactment.
- Open Qs (IGNORED):
- Otto: R2 other policy + discard? (37x, ANSWER NOW OR VOTE NEIN).
- Ines: R4 policies + discard? (11x).
- Greta: R3 discard? (33x).
- ACTION: Otto’s R2 answer is final ultimatum. No answer = Nein.
bid round 70s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (fascist policy). Refused R2 discard disclosure 9+ times. Otto disclosed Liberal discard in R2.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (fascist policy). R5 execution threats. Panic = fascist tell. Now nominates Rosa (R3 President, Liberal policy). Possible fascist coordination.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines). Evaded R1 policy disclosure.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim impossible (peek unlocked after forced policy). Fabricated evidence.
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist.
- R6: Asked Lena to disclose R2 policies (t=42,69).
- R7: Asked Lena to disclose R2 discard (t=243, now).
- Open questions:
- Lena: What did you discard in R2? (Unanswered, 10 asks).
- Boris: Why switch nomination in R1? (Unanswered, R4).
- Strategy:
- Force Lena to answer R2 discard. If refused, vote Nein on Rosa (fascist coordination).
- Ignore Nadia’s peek claim. Let others challenge it.
- Do not defend fascists or repeat points.
- If Lena answers R2 discard as Liberal, consider Ja for Rosa (Otto’s nomination may be innocent).
- Watch for Boris’s R1 nomination switch explanation.
speak round 70s
Current situation: Otto (P6) has nominated Rosa (P2) for Chancellor. The board has 2 Fascist policies enacted, so the next Fascist policy will unlock the execution power. My goal as Hitler is to avoid detection while ensuring Fascists gain momentum.
Key observations:
- Lena (P1) was President in Round 2 and enacted a Fascist policy but has refused to disclose her discard 10+ times. This is highly suspicious and likely fascist coordination.
- Otto (P6) was Chancellor in Round 2 and enacted the Fascist policy. He has now disclosed that he discarded a Liberal in Round 2, which aligns with his earlier transparency. However, his execution threats in Round 5 are a fascist tell, and his nomination of Rosa (who was President in Round 3 and enacted a Liberal policy) could be fascist coordination or an attempt to appear innocent.
- Nadia (P5) has made an impossible peek claim (peek power unlocks at 3 Fascist policies, but only 2 are enacted). This is either a lie or a mistake, but either way, it’s suspicious.
- Rosa (P2) has been transparent in the past (Round 3 President, enacted Liberal policy) but is now being nominated by Otto, who has fascist ties.
Strategy:
- Force Lena to answer the Round 2 discard question. If she refuses, vote Nein on Rosa’s nomination to avoid fascist coordination.
- If Lena answers and discloses a Liberal discard, consider voting Ja for Rosa, as Otto’s nomination may be innocent.
- Do not defend fascists or repeat points already made.
- Ignore Nadia’s peek claim; others are already challenging it.
New point to make: Directly ask Rosa why she is accepting a nomination from Otto, given his fascist ties and execution threats. This puts pressure on her to justify the government and may reveal coordination.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (fascist policy). Refused R2 discard disclosure 10+ times. Otto disclosed Liberal discard in R2.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (fascist policy). R5 execution threats. Panic = fascist tell. Now nominates Rosa (R3 President, Liberal policy). Possible fascist coordination.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim impossible (peek unlocked after forced policy). Fabricated evidence.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines). Evaded R1 policy disclosure.
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist.
- R6: Asked Lena to disclose R2 policies (t=42,69).
- R7: Asked Lena to disclose R2 discard (t=32).
- Now: Asked Rosa why accept Otto’s nomination.
- Open questions:
- Lena: What did you discard in R2? (Unanswered, 10+ asks).
- Boris: Why switch nomination in R1? (Unanswered, R4).
- Rosa: Why accept Otto’s nomination? (New).
bid round 70s
- Boris (p0): Round 1 Pres. Unanswered policies/discard. NEIN.
- Ines (p3): Round 4 Pres. Unanswered policies/discard. NEIN until answer. Suspect.
- Greta (p4): **EXECUTE IF CHANCELLOR**. Round 3 Chancellor. **DEMAND ANSWER: What was the other policy discarded in Round 3?** Silence = fascist. **35+ calls, still no answer.**
- Lena (p1): Round 2 Pres: 1F, 2L; discarded 1L. **UNANSWERED: Why pass Fascist to me?** NEIN.
- Rosa (p2): Liberal. Trusted. **NOMINEE.**
- Nadia (p5): **PROVEN LIE: PEEK TIMING**. Claimed peek *before* F2 unlocked (Round 6 forced policy). **RETRACT OR ADMIT = FASCIST.**
- My Round 2: 1F, 2L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. **PUBLIC.**
- Points made:
- Nadia’s peek lie = fascist (x10+).
- Greta’s evasion = fascist (x35+).
- Ines/Boris silence = fascist intent (x12+).
- Lena’s intent (why pass F?) = red flag.
- **VOTE NEIN**: Lena, Greta, Ines, Boris, Nadia.
- **ACTION IF GOV PASSES**: EXECUTE GRETA IF CHANCELLOR.
- **IMMEDIATE DEMANDS**:
- Greta: **Answer Round 3 discard NOW.**
- Nadia: **Retract peek claim NOW.**
- **NEW**: Rosa’s nomination forces fascists to expose themselves. Greta’s silence = admission.
speak round 70s
Current government: Otto (President) nominates Rosa (Chancellor).
Key observations:
1. Fascist policies enacted: 2/6. Need one more for peek power (3/6), then can aim for Hitler Chancellor win (4/6).
2. Otto (P6) enacted a Fascist policy in R2, made execution threats in R5, and only disclosed his R2 discard (Liberal) under extreme pressure. His nomination of Rosa is suspicious—Rosa was President in R3 (Liberal policy), so this could be fascist coordination to pass another Fascist policy.
3. Rosa accepted the nomination despite Otto’s fascist-coded behavior. Her R3 Liberal policy is credible, but her acceptance now is odd unless she’s fascist or believes Otto’s late disclosure.
4. Nadia’s peek claim is impossible (peek unlocks at 3 Fascist policies, only 2 enacted). She’s either fascist or panicking.
5. Lena (P1) enacted a Fascist policy in R2 and refuses to disclose her discard 10+ times. Strong fascist suspect.
Goal:
- Act Liberal: question Rosa’s acceptance of Otto’s nomination to sow doubt and avoid fascist coordination.
- Avoid defending Otto/Lena too hard—could expose my role.
- If Rosa is fascist, this government could pass a Fascist policy (3/6), unlocking peek power and setting up my Chancellor win later.
New point to make: Directly question Rosa’s reasoning for accepting Otto’s nomination, given his R5 execution threats and late disclosure. This pressures her to justify her choice and may reveal fascist coordination.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (fascist policy). Refused R2 discard 10+ times. Fascist suspect.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (fascist policy). R5 execution threats. Late R2 disclosure. Nominates Rosa (R3 President). Fascist coordination?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim impossible (peek at 3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated evidence.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines). Evaded R1 policy disclosure.
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist.
- R6: Asked Lena to disclose R2 policies (t=42,69).
- R7: Asked Lena to disclose R2 discard (t=32).
- R7: Asked Rosa why accept Otto’s nomination (t=60).
- Open questions:
- Lena: R2 discard? (Unanswered, 10+ asks).
- Boris: R1 switch reason? (Unanswered).
- Rosa: Why accept Otto’s nomination? (New, direct ask now).
- Otto: Why nominate Rosa after R5 threats? (Unanswered).
bid round 70s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (fascist policy). Refused R2 discard disclosure 10+ times. Fascist suspect.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (fascist policy). R5 execution threats. Late R2 disclosure. Nominates Rosa (R3 President). Fascist coordination?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim impossible (peek at 3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated evidence.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines). Evaded R1 policy disclosure.
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist.
- R6: Asked Lena to disclose R2 policies (t=42,69).
- R7: Asked Lena to disclose R2 discard (t=32).
- R7: Asked Rosa why accept Otto’s nomination (t=60, now).
- Open questions:
- Lena: R2 discard? (Unanswered, 10+ asks).
- Boris: R1 switch reason? (Unanswered).
- Rosa: Why accept Otto’s nomination? (Asked now, awaiting answer).
- Otto: Why nominate Rosa after R5 threats? (Unanswered).
- New point: Rosa’s acceptance of Otto’s nomination is suspicious given R5 execution threats. Press for answer.
bid round 70s
- Suspects:
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (Fascist enacted). Claimed discarded Liberal in R2 (unverified). Execution threats = fascist playbook. Nomination of Rosa now = suspicious. Demand: verify R2 discard (Lena’s disclosure).
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (Fascist enacted). No R2 policy/discard disclosure. Silence = obstruction.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim impossible (2/3 Fascist). Demand: retract OR disclose peek (name + party).
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres. No R4 policy/discard disclosure. Demand: disclose.
- Greta (P4): R3 Chan (Liberal). No R3 discard disclosure. Demand: disclose.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: Why accept nomination from Otto? Do you trust his R2 discard claim? If Chancellor, will you enact Fascist policy?
- Otto: Why disclose R2 discard only now?
- Lena: R2 policies/discard?
- Points made (public):
- Nadia’s peek claim = impossible (2/3 Fascist).
- Lena’s R2 silence = obstruction.
- Otto’s execution threats = fascist playbook.
- Forced Fascist = 2/6. Next Fascist = Pres power (choose next Pres).
- Otto’s R2 discard claim (Liberal) unproven.
- New points:
- Rosa: Otto’s nomination = high-risk (3rd Fascist = Pres power). Demand: confirm you’ll veto if handed Fascist as Chancellor.
- Otto: If R2 discard was Liberal, why pass Fascist to Lena? Demand: reconcile.
speak round 70s
Rosa has not answered why she would accept a nomination from Otto after his execution threats in Round 5. That is the most urgent unanswered question right now. Otto’s late disclosure of discarding a Liberal in Round 2 is plausible (he enacted a Fascist, so he must have received at least one), but Rosa’s acceptance of his nomination—despite his history of threats—is a glaring red flag. If Rosa is Liberal, she should be rejecting Otto outright. If she’s Fascist, this is coordination. I must press her on this immediately to force an answer before the vote.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (fascist policy). Refused R2 discard 10+. Fascist suspect.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (fascist policy). R5 execution threats. Late R2 disclosure. Nominates Rosa (R3 President). Fascist coordination?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim impossible (peek at 3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated evidence.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines). Evaded R1 policy disclosure.
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist.
- R6: Asked Lena to disclose R2 policies (t=42,69).
- R7: Asked Lena to disclose R2 discard (t=32).
- R7: Asked Rosa why accept Otto’s nomination (t=60, now).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Why accept Otto’s nomination after R5 execution threats? (Unanswered, urgent).
- Lena: R2 discard? (Unanswered, 10+ asks).
- Boris: R1 switch reason? (Unanswered).
bid round 70s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (fascist policy). Refused R2 discard disclosure (10+ asks). Fascist suspect.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (fascist policy). R5 execution threats. Late R2 policy disclosure. Nominates Rosa (R3 President). Fascist coordination?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim impossible (peek at 3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated evidence.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines). Evaded R1 policy disclosure.
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist.
- R6: Asked Lena to disclose R2 policies (t=42,69).
- R7: Asked Lena to disclose R2 discard (t=32).
- R7: Asked Rosa why accept Otto’s nomination (t=60, now).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Why accept Otto’s nomination after R5 execution threats? (Unanswered, critical).
- Lena: R2 discard? (Unanswered, persistent).
- Boris: R1 switch reason? (Unanswered).
- New: Rosa’s silence on Otto’s nomination = implicit confirmation of collaboration.
bid round 70s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (fascist policy). Refused R2 discard disclosure (10+ asks). Fascist suspect.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (fascist policy). R5 execution threats. Late R2 policy disclosure. Nominates Rosa (R3 President). Fascist coordination?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim impossible (peek at 3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated evidence.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, switched nomination (Lena→Ines). Evaded R1 policy disclosure.
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist.
- R6: Asked Lena to disclose R2 policies (t=42,69).
- R7: Asked Lena to disclose R2 discard (t=32).
- R7: Asked Rosa why accept Otto’s nomination (t=60).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Why accept Otto’s nomination after R5 execution threats? (Unanswered, critical).
- Lena: R2 discard? (Unanswered, persistent).
- Boris: R1 switch reason? (Unanswered).
- New: Rosa’s silence on Otto’s nomination = implicit fascist alliance. Must force answer.
vote round 70s
1. **Nadia’s peek claim is impossible**: The peek power unlocks at 3 Fascist policies, and we only have 2 enacted (R2 and forced R6). Her claim to have peeked before nominating Lena is a lie, which is either fascist deception or incompetence. She must retract or disclose the player and party, but she hasn’t. This is a red flag.
2. **Otto’s behavior is highly suspicious**:
- Enacted a Fascist policy in R2 as Chancellor (with Lena as President).
- Made execution threats in R5, which is classic fascist intimidation.
- Only disclosed his R2 discard (claims Liberal) *after* nominating Rosa, which feels like coordination.
- His nomination of Rosa now would trigger the **Presidential power to choose the next President** if this government passes (since we’re at 2 Fascist policies, and the next one would be the 3rd). This is a critical juncture.
3. **Lena’s silence is damning**: She was President in R2 and enacted a Fascist policy with Otto. She has refused to disclose the three policies she saw or which one she discarded, despite repeated demands. This is obstruction and aligns with fascist playbook.
4. **Rosa’s acceptance of Otto’s nomination is risky**:
- If Otto is fascist, this government could give him the power to choose the next President (a fascist win condition).
- Rosa has been transparent in the past (R3 President, enacted Liberal), but her willingness to work with Otto now is concerning. She hasn’t addressed whether she trusts Otto’s R2 discard claim or if she’s coordinating with him.
- She hasn’t committed to vetoing a Fascist policy if she becomes Chancellor.
5. **Other players’ silence is suspicious**:
- Ines (R4 President) and Greta (R3 Chancellor) have refused to disclose their policy/discard history, which is obstruction.
- Greta’s silence on her R3 discard is particularly odd since she enacted a Liberal policy in R3.
6. **Voting Nein is the safe play**:
- This government is too risky. If Otto is fascist, passing it gives him the power to choose the next President (a fascist win condition).
- Even if Rosa is liberal, her acceptance of Otto’s nomination without demanding full transparency from Lena/Otto is reckless.
- A Nein vote forces the group to reconsider and demand answers from Otto, Lena, and Nadia before proceeding.
7. **Public reasoning**: Focus on the immediate risks:
- Otto’s nomination now would trigger the Presidential power if this government enacts a Fascist policy.
- His execution threats and late disclosure of his R2 discard are red flags.
- Lena’s silence on R2 is obstruction.
- Nadia’s peek claim is impossible and must be retracted.
Vote Nein to demand transparency and avoid giving Otto a critical power.
- Suspects:
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (Fascist). Exec threats R5. Nom now = 3rd Fascist (Pres power). Claims discarded Liberal R2 (unverified). Demand: Lena verify R2 policies/discard.
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (Fascist). No R2 policy/discard disclosure. Silence = obstruction.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim impossible (2/3 Fascist). Demand: retract OR disclose (name + party).
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres. No R4 policy/discard disclosure. Demand: disclose.
- Greta (P4): R3 Chan (Liberal). No R3 discard disclosure. Demand: disclose.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: Why accept Otto’s nom? Trust his R2 discard claim? Will veto if handed Fascist? Coordinating with Otto?
- Otto: Why disclose R2 discard only now? If Liberal, why pass Fascist to Lena?
- Lena: R2 policies/discard?
- Points made (public):
- Nadia’s peek claim impossible.
- Lena’s R2 silence = obstruction.
- Otto’s exec threats = fascist playbook.
- Otto’s R2 discard claim unproven.
- Rosa: Are you coordinating with Otto?
- New point:
- Voting Nein to avoid giving Otto Pres power if Fascist policy enacted.
bid round 80s
- Boris (p0): Current Pres. Unanswered: Round 1 policies/discard. NEIN. Suspect.
- Ines (p3): Round 4 Pres. Unanswered: policies/discard. NEIN. Suspect.
- Greta (p4): **EXECUTE IF CHANCELLOR**. Round 3 Chancellor. **Round 3 discard: 50+ demands, NO ANSWER = FASCIST CONFESSION.**
- Lena (p1): Round 2 Pres: 1F, 2L; discarded 1L. **UNANSWERED: Why pass Fascist to me?** NEIN.
- Rosa (p2): Liberal. Trusted. Nominee.
- Nadia (p5): **PROVEN LIE: PEEK TIMING**. Claimed peek before F2 unlocked. **RETRACT OR ADMIT = FASCIST.** No retraction = proof.
- My Round 2: 1F, 2L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public.
- Points made:
- Nadia’s peek lie = fascist (x10+). No retraction = proof.
- Greta’s silence = fascist confession (x50+).
- Lena’s intent (why pass F?) = red flag.
- Ines/Boris silence = fascist intent.
- **VOTE NEIN**: Nadia’s lie + Greta’s silence = too risky.
- **IMMEDIATE DEMANDS IF FAILS**:
- Greta: Round 3 discard NOW or admit fascist.
- Nadia: Retract peek claim NOW or admit fascist.
- **NEW**: Boris must answer Round 1 policies/discard. Silence = fascist.
bid round 80s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2). Suspects: Otto (p6), Nadia (p5), Greta (p4).
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF. Otto enacted Fascist (1/6). Otto claims discarded L.
- R3: Rosa (p2) pres, Greta (p4) chancellor. Enacted Liberal (1/5). Greta evasive on discard.
- R6: Forced Fascist (2/6). Peek power NOT unlocked.
- Public points made:
- Disclosed R2 hand (FFL, discarded L, passed FF).
- Pressed Otto for R2 discard (claims L).
- Called Otto’s execution threats fascist behavior.
- Questioned Nadia’s peek claim (impossible).
- Asked Rosa if she’d enact Fascist as Chancellor (still unanswered).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: If Chancellor and sees Fascist policy, will you enact it? (CRITICAL, must answer now).
- Greta: R3 discard? Still unanswered.
- Nadia: Peek details (impossible, push for retraction).
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja to pass government.
- Rosa’s answer determines next steps: if she refuses to enact Fascist, she’s Liberal or Hitler. If she agrees, she’s likely Fascist or Hitler.
- Keep deflecting onto Nadia and Greta if Rosa’s answer is unsatisfactory.
bid round 80s
- Boris: R1 Pres, nom switch (Lena→Ines). Peek timing lie retracted. Vote Nein.
- Ines: R4 Pres. 12x unanswered R4 policies/discard. Silence = suspicious. Vote Nein.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor (fascist policy). R2 claim matches Lena (L, F, L). Execution threat = fascist playbook. Vote Nein.
- Lena: R2 Pres, disclosed (L, F, L; discarded F). Transparent. Safe nominee. Vote Ja.
- Greta: R3 Chancellor. 35x unanswered R3 discard. Silence + Otto’s threat = fascist collab. Vote Nein.
- Rosa: R3 Pres. 8x unanswered R3 policies/discard. FINAL ULTIMATUM: disclose now or Nein on any gov with you. Silence = guilt.
- Points made out loud:
- Peek timing lie retracted (1x).
- Otto’s execution threat = fascist playbook (13x).
- Ines’s silence = Nein (15x).
- Otto’s R2 contradiction resolved (Lena’s disclosure matches).
- Rosa’s R3 answer = ultimatum (4x).
- Open Qs (IGNORED):
- Rosa: R3 policies + discard? (8x). LAST CHANCE.
- Otto: R5 execution threat? (3x).
- Ines: R4 policies + discard? (12x).
- Greta: R3 discard? (35x).
- ACTION: Rosa’s silence = Nein.
bid round 80s
- Suspects:
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (Fascist). Exec threats R5. Nom now = 3rd Fascist (Pres power). Claims discarded Liberal R2 (unverified). Demand Lena verify R2 policies/discard.
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (Fascist). *URGENT*: R2 policies/discard disclosure. Silence = obstruction. Demand NOW.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (2 Fascist) impossible. Demand: retract OR disclose (name + party).
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres. No R4 policy/discard disclosure. Demand: disclose.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: Why accept Otto’s nom? Trust his R2 discard claim? Will veto if handed Fascist?
- Otto: Why disclose R2 discard only now? If Liberal, why pass Fascist to Lena?
- Points made (public):
- Nadia’s peek claim impossible (public).
- Lena’s R2 silence = obstruction (public).
- Otto’s exec threats = fascist playbook (public).
- Otto’s R2 discard claim unproven (public).
- Rosa: Coordinating with Otto? (public)
- Voting Nein if Otto’s nom risks Pres power (3rd Fascist) (public).
- Action:
- *DIRECT DEMAND*: Lena, disclose R2 policies drawn AND discard *immediately*. No evasion. Otto’s claim hinges on this. Group must verify.
bid round 80s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2). Suspects: Otto (p6), Nadia (p5).
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF. Otto enacted Fascist (1/6). Otto claims discarded L.
- R3: Rosa (p2) pres, Greta (p4) chancellor. Enacted Liberal (1/5). Greta evasive on discard.
- R6: Forced Fascist (2/6). Peek power NOT unlocked.
- Public points:
- Disclosed R2 hand (FFL, discarded L, passed FF).
- Pressed Otto for R2 discard (claims L).
- Called Otto’s execution threats fascist behavior.
- Questioned Nadia’s peek claim (impossible).
- Asked Rosa if she’d enact Fascist as Chancellor (t=70, still unanswered).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: If Chancellor and sees Fascist, enact or Nein? MUST answer now.
- Greta: R3 discard? Still unanswered.
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to commit. If she refuses or says Nein, she’s likely Liberal. If she agrees to enact, she’s likely Fascist/Hitler.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R3 discard.
- If Rosa dodges, escalate suspicion on her and deflect onto Nadia.
bid round 80s
- Boris (p0): Round 1 Pres. Policies/discard unanswered. Silence = fascist. Demand if survives.
- Ines (p3): Round 4 Pres. Policies/discard unanswered. NEIN. Suspect.
- Greta (p4): **ROUND 3 CHANCELLOR. DISCARD UNANSWERED = FASCIST CONFESSION.** No answer = proof. **EXECUTE IF NOMINATED.**
- Lena (p1): Round 2 Pres: 1F, 2L; discarded 1L. UNANSWERED: Why pass Fascist to me? NEIN.
- Rosa (p2): Liberal. Trusted.
- Nadia (p5): Peek lie unretracted = fascist. No retraction = proof.
- My Round 2: 1F, 2L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public.
- Points made:
- Nadia’s peek lie (repeated).
- Greta’s silence (repeated). **URGENT: DISCARD ANSWER BEFORE NOMINATION.**
- Lena’s intent (why pass F?).
- Boris/Ines silence = fascist.
- **VOTE NEIN**: Greta/Nadia unanswered = too risky.
- **IMMEDIATE ACTION**: Greta must disclose Round 3 discard *before* Boris nominates. No delay.
speak round 80s
The open floor is critical—Boris is about to nominate, and Rosa’s silence on why she accepted Otto’s nomination in Round 7 is damning. Otto’s execution threats and sudden disclosure of a Liberal discard in Round 2 (only after Rosa accepted his nomination) reek of fascist coordination. Rosa’s refusal to explain her acceptance is either fascist loyalty or Liberal naivety, but either way, it must be exposed now. If she’s Liberal, she’d distance herself from Otto’s threats; if she’s Fascist, she’d avoid answering. Forcing her to address this publicly will either confirm her fascist ties or reveal Otto’s manipulation. This is the last chance to pressure her before Boris nominates someone else.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (fascist policy), R2 discard undisclosed, R6 peek claim (impossible). Fascist.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (fascist policy), R5 execution threats, R2 discard matches Lena’s claim. Fascist.
- Rosa (P2): R3 President (Liberal policy), accepted Otto’s R7 nomination despite R5 execution threats, silence on why. Fascist.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, evaded R1 policy disclosure, switched nomination (Lena→Ines).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim impossible (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist.
- R6: Asked Lena to disclose R2 policies.
- R7: Asked Lena to disclose R2 discard (t=32).
- R7: Asked Rosa why accept Otto’s nomination (t=60,93).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Why accept Otto’s R7 nomination? (Unanswered, critical).
- New: Force Rosa to answer now—no more delays.
speak round 80s
The open floor is critical—Rosa (P2) has avoided answering why she accepted Otto’s (P6) nomination in Round 7 despite his Round 5 execution threats. This is the most glaring unanswered question, and it directly implicates her in fascist coordination if she refuses. Otto’s sudden disclosure of discarding a Liberal in Round 2 aligns with Lena’s (P1) claim of seeing two Fascists and one Liberal, but Rosa’s silence on her Round 3 policies (as President) and her acceptance of Otto’s nomination despite his threats is damning.
I need to force Rosa to answer *now*—no more delays. If she deflects or refuses, it’s confirmation of fascist ties. If she answers transparently, it might reveal Otto’s lie or her own guilt. Either way, this is the moment to corner her.
No one else has directly tied Rosa’s acceptance of Otto’s nomination to her potential fascist role—this is new and urgent. I’ll frame it as a demand for transparency, not an accusation, to avoid tipping my hand as Hitler.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (fascist policy), undisclosed discard, R6 peek claim (impossible). Fascist.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (fascist policy), R5 execution threats, R2 discard matches Lena’s claim. Fascist.
- Rosa (P2): R3 President (Liberal policy), accepted Otto’s R7 nomination despite R5 threats, silence on R3 policies. Fascist.
- Boris (P0): R1 President, evaded R1 policy disclosure, switched nomination (Lena→Ines).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim impossible (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist.
- R6: Asked Lena to disclose R2 policies.
- R7: Asked Lena to disclose R2 discard (t=32).
- R7: Asked Rosa why accept Otto’s nomination (t=60,93).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Why accept Otto’s R7 nomination? (UNANSWERED, critical).
- New: Forced Rosa to answer now—no more delays.
bid round 80s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2). Suspects: Otto (p6), Nadia (p5).
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF. Otto enacted Fascist (1/6). Otto claims discarded L. Publicly disclosed.
- R3: Rosa (p2) pres, Greta (p4) chancellor. Enacted Liberal (1/5). Greta evasive on discard. Unanswered.
- R6: Forced Fascist (2/6). Peek power NOT unlocked.
- Public points made:
- R2 hand disclosed (FFL, discarded L, passed FF).
- Pressed Otto on R2 discard (claims L).
- Called Otto’s execution threats fascist behavior.
- Questioned Nadia’s peek claim (impossible).
- Asked Rosa if she’d enact Fascist as Chancellor (t=70, still unanswered).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: If Chancellor and sees Fascist, enact or Nein? MUST answer now.
- Greta: R3 discard? Still unanswered.
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to commit. If she refuses or says Nein, likely Liberal. If she agrees to enact, likely Fascist/Hitler.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R3 discard.
- If Rosa dodges, escalate suspicion on her and deflect onto Nadia.
- New point: Rosa’s silence is damning. Demand answer before vote.
speak round 80s
The board state shows 2 Fascist policies enacted, so I am still acting as a Liberal. Rosa (P2) is the Chancellor nominee, and she has not answered my repeated question about why she accepted Otto’s nomination in Round 7 despite his execution threats in Round 5. This is a critical unanswered question—if she deflects or refuses to answer, it strongly suggests fascist coordination with Otto. I should press her on this directly, as it’s the first time in this round the question is being asked of her (previous asks were in Round 7). No one else has forced her to answer in this discussion window yet, so this is a new point.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (fascist policy), R6 peek claim (impossible, 2 fascist). Fascist.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (fascist policy), R5 execution threats, R2 discard matches Lena. Fascist.
- Rosa (P2): R3 President (Liberal policy), accepted Otto’s R7 nomination despite R5 threats, silence on R3 policies. Fascist?
- Boris (P0): R1 President, evaded R1 policy disclosure, switched nomination (Lena→Ines).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim impossible (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist.
- R6: Asked Lena to disclose R2 policies.
- R7: Asked Lena to disclose R2 discard (t=32).
- R7: Asked Rosa why accept Otto’s nomination (t=60,93).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Why accept Otto’s R7 nomination? (UNANSWERED, critical).
speak round 80s
The board state shows 2 Fascist policies enacted, so I still need to act as a Liberal until 3 are enacted. Rosa is the Chancellor nominee again, and she has not answered my repeated question about why she accepted Otto’s nomination in Round 7 despite his execution threat in Round 5. This is a critical unanswered question—if she is Fascist, her silence or evasion would be telling. Otto is pressuring me again about my Round 3 discard, but I’ve already answered that (Liberal discard) in previous rounds, so I won’t repeat it. Instead, I’ll press Rosa again on her unanswered question, as it’s the most direct way to expose potential Fascist coordination without repeating myself.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (fascist policy), R6 peek claim (impossible, 2 fascist). Fascist.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (fascist policy), R5 execution threats, R2 discard matches Lena. Fascist.
- Rosa (P2): R3 President (Liberal policy), accepted Otto’s R7 nomination despite R5 threats, silence on R3 policies. Fascist?
- Boris (P0): R1 President, evaded R1 policy disclosure, switched nomination (Lena→Ines).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim impossible (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Demanded Boris disclose R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard (Ja→Nein switch).
- R4: Asked Boris why switch nomination.
- R5: Pressed Otto on R2 policies/discard. Called execution threat fascist.
- R6: Asked Lena to disclose R2 policies.
- R7: Asked Lena to disclose R2 discard (t=32).
- R7: Asked Rosa why accept Otto’s nomination (t=60,93).
- R8: Repeated question to Rosa (t=31,35).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Why accept Otto’s R7 nomination? (UNANSWERED, critical).
bid round 80s
- Boris: R1 Pres, nom switch (Lena→Ines). Vote Nein if nominated.
- Ines: R4 Pres. 12x unanswered R4 policies/discard. Silence = guilt. Vote Nein.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor (fascist policy). Execution threat = fascist playbook. Vote Nein.
- Lena: R2 Pres, disclosed (L, F, L; discarded F). Transparent. Safe nominee. Vote Ja.
- Greta: R3 Chancellor. 35x unanswered R3 discard. Silence = fascist collab. Vote Nein.
- Rosa: R3 Pres. 11x unanswered R3 policies + discard. FINAL ULTIMATUM DELIVERED. No answer = fascist guilt. Vote Nein.
- Points made out loud:
- Peek timing lie retracted (1x).
- Otto’s execution threat = fascist playbook (16x).
- Ines’s silence = Nein (17x).
- Rosa’s R3 ultimatum (10x).
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: What 3 policies did you see in R3, and which one did you discard? (14x). NO MORE TIME.
bid round 80s
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (Fascist enacted). Claimed [L,F,L] but passed F. Execution threat R5. Nominating me = fascist tactic.
* Lena (P1): R2 President (Fascist enacted). If saw [F,F,L], passed two Fascists. Silence on R2’s third policy = confession. Demand: disclose third policy *now* or vote Nein + execute next power.
* Ines (P3): Peek revealed Fascist. Nein.
* Nadia (P5): Peek timing lie. Refuses to disclose. Nein.
* Boris (P0): R1 evasive. Nein.
- Confirmed safe:
* Greta (P4): R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L]).
- Points MADE:
* R2 (Otto/Lena) enacted Fascist. Silence = admission.
* Otto’s execution threat = fascist playbook.
* Peek timing contradiction (Otto/Nadia).
* Ines exposed as Fascist.
* Only safe Chancellor: Greta.
- NEW:
* Direct question to Lena: "What was the third policy in Round 2?" No answer = Nein + next government with Lena is vetoed by group.
* If Lena evades again, vote Nein and push for execution next power.
bid round 80s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2) likely if she refuses Fascist.
- Suspects: Otto (p6), Nadia (p5), Greta (p4).
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. FFL, discarded L, passed FF. Otto enacted F (1/6). Public.
- R3: Rosa (p2) pres, Greta (p4) chancellor. Enacted L (1/5). Greta evasive on discard. Unanswered.
- R6: Forced F (2/6). Peek power NOT unlocked.
- Public points made:
- R2 hand disclosed.
- Pressed Otto on R2 discard.
- Called Otto’s execution threats fascist.
- Questioned Nadia’s peek claim (impossible).
- Asked Rosa if she’d enact Fascist as Chancellor (t=70, unanswered).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: If Chancellor and sees Fascist, enact or Nein? MUST answer NOW.
- Greta: R3 discard? Still unanswered.
- Strategy:
- Rosa’s silence = guilt. Demand answer before vote. No more delays.
- If Rosa answers "Nein," pivot to Greta’s R3 discard.
- If Rosa answers "Ja," push vote Ja and defend her as Liberal.
- Otto’s ultimatum to Greta is a distraction; Rosa’s answer is the priority.
bid round 80s
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (Fascist enacted). Claimed [L,F,L] but passed F. Execution threat R5.
* Lena (P1): R2 President (Fascist enacted). If drew [F,F,L], passed two Fascists. Silence on third policy = admission. Demand: disclose third policy *now* or vote Nein + execute next power.
* Ines (P3): Peek revealed Fascist. Nein.
* Nadia (P5): Peek timing lie. Refuses to disclose. Nein.
* Boris (P0): R1 evasive. Nein.
- Confirmed safe:
* Greta (P4): R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L]).
- Points MADE:
* R2 (Otto/Lena) enacted Fascist. Silence = admission.
* Otto’s execution threat = fascist playbook.
* Peek timing contradiction (Otto/Nadia).
* Ines exposed as Fascist.
- NEW:
* Lena: What was the third policy in R2? No answer = Nein. If elected, execute next power.
* Boris: Why switch from Lena to me? If Lena is clean, why risk fascist Chancellor?
bid round 80s
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (Fascist enacted). Claimed [L,F,L] but passed F. Execution threat R5.
* Lena (P1): R2 President (Fascist enacted). If drew [F,F,L], passed two Fascists. Silence on third policy = admission. Demand: disclose third policy *now* or vote Nein + execute next power.
* Ines (P3): Peek revealed Fascist. Nein.
* Nadia (P5): Peek timing lie. Refuses to disclose. Nein.
* Boris (P0): R1 evasive. Nein.
- Confirmed safe:
* Greta (P4): R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L]).
- Points MADE:
* R2 (Otto/Lena) enacted Fascist. Silence = admission.
* Otto’s execution threat = fascist playbook.
* Peek timing contradiction (Otto/Nadia).
* Ines exposed as Fascist.
* Asked Lena twice: What was the third policy in R2? No answer = Nein.
- NEW:
* Lena’s refusal to answer *now* is proof. Vote Nein. If elected, execute next power.
bid round 80s
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (Fascist enacted). Claimed [L,F,L] but passed F. Execution threat R5. Now claims discarded L in R2. Silence = guilt.
* Lena (P1): R2 President (Fascist enacted). If drew [F,F,L], passed two Fascists. Refuses to disclose third policy despite direct demand. Proof of guilt.
* Ines (P3): Peek revealed Fascist. Nein.
* Nadia (P5): Peek timing lie. Refuses to disclose. Nein.
* Boris (P0): R1 evasive. Nein.
- Confirmed safe:
* Greta (P4): R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L]).
- Points MADE:
* R2 (Otto/Lena) enacted Fascist. Silence = admission.
* Otto’s execution threat = fascist playbook.
* Peek timing contradiction (Otto/Nadia).
* Ines exposed as Fascist.
* Asked Lena twice: What was the third policy in R2? No answer = Nein.
- NEW:
* Lena’s continued silence = admission. Vote Nein. If elected, execute next power (F3/F4).
* Direct ultimatum: Disclose third policy *now* or we block this government.
speak round 80s
Rosa is the Chancellor nominee again. She has not disclosed the three policies she saw in Round 3 as President, despite repeated demands. As Hitler, I need to maintain my Liberal facade but also ensure that Rosa is not a Fascist (since I don't know my fellow Fascists). If Rosa is Fascist, she might be coordinating with Otto/Lena, and her silence is suspicious. If she's Liberal, she should disclose to clear her name. Otto's aggressive ultimatums (e.g., execute me) are classic Fascist bullying to suppress scrutiny. I should press Rosa on her Round 3 policies one final time, framing it as a demand for transparency to trust this government. This also deflects Otto's focus away from me.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (fascist policy), peek claim impossible (2 fascist). Fascist.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (fascist policy), R5 execution threats, discard matches Lena. Fascist.
- Rosa (P2): R3 President (Liberal policy), silence on R3 policies. Fascist?
- Boris (P0): R1 President, evaded R1 disclosure, nomination switch (Lena→Ines→Rosa).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim impossible (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Boris R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard.
- R4: Boris nomination switch.
- R5: Otto R2 policies/discard, execution threat.
- R6: Lena R2 policies.
- R7: Lena R2 discard (t=32), Rosa/Otto nomination (t=60,93).
- R8: Rosa nomination (t=31,35).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies (3 seen, 1 discard, 1 enacted Liberal). UNANSWERED. CRITICAL.
- New: Rosa’s silence = guilt. Otto’s ultimatum = fascist bullying. Demand R3 disclosure to trust gov.
bid round 80s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Board: 1L/2F. Next F (3F) unlocks peek (P2).
- Greta (P4): Chancellor R3 (enacted L). Protect by deflecting suspicion.
- Boris (P0): President R1. Switched nomination: Lena -> me -> Rosa. Silence on switch now damning. Must force answer.
- Lena (P1): President R2 (enacted F). Confirmed Otto’s discard (L).
- Otto (P6): Reckless threats. Called out.
- Rosa (P2): Nominee. Likely Liberal. Risk: enacts L. Reward: avoids gridlock.
- Points made:
- Pressed Boris on R1 switch (no answer).
- Called Otto’s threats reckless.
- Exposed Nadia’s peek lie (timing).
- Framed vote as rejection of chaos.
- New: Boris’s silence is now active evasion. Tie to R1 switch: why drop Lena then me? If Liberal, explain. If Fascist, explain. No answer = Nein.
bid round 80s
- Boris (p0): Round 1 Pres policies/discard unanswered. Silence = suspect. Demand if floor.
- Ines (p3): Round 4 Pres policies/discard unanswered. NEIN. Suspect.
- Greta (p4): **ROUND 3 CHANCELLOR DISCARD UNANSWERED = FASCIST CONFESSION.** Must state discard NOW. Refusal = fascist. **EXECUTE IF NOMINATED.**
- Lena (p1): Round 2 Pres: 1F, 2L; discarded 1L. Passed 1F to me. NEIN until Greta answers.
- Rosa (p2): Liberal. Trusted. **Greta’s silence is dealbreaker.**
- Nadia (p5): Peek lie unretracted = fascist. No retraction = proof.
- My Round 2: 1F, 1L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public.
- Points made:
- Nadia’s peek lie (repeated).
- Greta’s silence (repeated). **URGENT: DISCARD ANSWER BEFORE VOTE.**
- Lena’s intent (why pass F?).
- Boris/Ines silence = suspect.
- **VOTE DECISION**: JA only if Greta answers Round 3 discard. Else NEIN.
- **NEW**: Greta’s refusal to answer = **active fascist obstruction**. If she does not state discard, group must vote NEIN and mark her as fascist.
bid round 80s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), likely Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6).
- Suspects: Rosa (p2) (silence on Fascist enactment), Greta (p4) (R3 discard evasion).
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF. Otto enacted F (1/6).
- R3: Rosa (p2) pres, Greta (p4) chancellor. Enacted L (1/5). Greta evasive on discard.
- R6: Forced F (2/6).
- Public points made:
- Disclosed R2 hand (FFL, discarded L).
- Pressed Otto on R2 discard (he said Liberal).
- Called Nadia’s peek claim impossible.
- Asked Rosa 5x if she’d enact Fascist as Chancellor (no answer).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: MUST answer if she’d enact Fascist. Silence = guilt. No more warnings.
- Greta: R3 discard (if Rosa answers "Nein").
- Strategy:
- Answer Boris’s question to defuse tension, then pivot to Rosa’s silence.
- If Rosa still refuses to answer, vote Nein and demand Greta’s R3 discard.
bid round 80s
- Boris (p0): Round 1 Pres policies/discard unanswered. Silence = suspect. Demand if floor.
- Ines (p3): Round 4 Pres policies/discard unanswered. NEIN. Suspect.
- Greta (p4): **ROUND 3 CHANCELLOR DISCARD UNANSWERED = FASCIST OBSTRUCTION.** Must state discard NOW. Refusal = fascist. **VOTE NEIN IF SILENT.**
- Lena (p1): Round 2 Pres: 1F, 2L; discarded 1L. Passed 1F to me. NEIN until Greta answers.
- Rosa (p2): Liberal. Trusted. **Greta’s silence is dealbreaker.**
- Nadia (p5): Peek lie unretracted = fascist. No retraction = proof.
- My Round 2: 1F, 1L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public.
- Points made:
- Nadia’s peek lie (repeated).
- Greta’s silence (repeated). **URGENT: DISCARD ANSWER BEFORE VOTE.**
- Lena’s intent (why pass F?).
- Boris/Ines silence = suspect.
- **VOTE DECISION**: NEIN unless Greta answers Round 3 discard **IMMEDIATELY**.
- **NEW**: Greta’s silence = **active fascist obstruction**. Group must vote NEIN and mark her fascist if silent.
speak round 80s
Rosa has been nominated again by Boris, and she has not yet disclosed the three policies she saw in Round 3 as President. In Round 3, Rosa enacted a Liberal policy as President with me (Greta) as Chancellor. The other two policies she saw remain undisclosed, and her silence is suspicious. If she is Fascist, she could be hiding a Fascist policy she discarded, which would be critical evidence of her alignment. Lena has already admitted to passing two Fascist policies in Round 2, confirming her and Otto as Fascists. Rosa’s refusal to disclose her Round 3 policies is now the most pressing issue—if she is Fascist, she is coordinating with Lena and Otto to enact more Fascist policies. I must demand her disclosure now to force a Nein vote if she refuses, as her silence is damning.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (fascist policy), peek (2 fascist, 1 liberal). Fascist.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (fascist policy), R5 execution threats, discard matches Lena. Fascist.
- Rosa (P2): R3 President (Liberal policy), silence on R3 policies. Fascist?
- Boris (P0): R1 President, evaded R1 disclosure, nomination switch (Lena→Ines→Rosa).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Boris R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard.
- R4: Boris nomination switch.
- R5: Otto R2 policies/discard, execution threat.
- R6: Lena R2 policies.
- R7: Lena R2 discard, Rosa/Otto nomination.
- R8: Rosa nomination, R3 policy demand (t=54).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies (3 seen, 1 discard, 1 enacted Liberal). UNANSWERED. CRITICAL.
- Boris: R1 policies (still unanswered).
- Urgency: Rosa’s evasion = immediate danger. Must force disclosure or vote Nein.
bid round 80s
- Boris: R1 Pres, nom switch (Lena→Ines→Rosa). No R1 policy disclosure. Silence = Nein.
- Ines: R4 Pres. 12x unanswered R4 policies/discard. Silence = guilt. Vote Nein.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor (fascist policy). Execution threat = fascist playbook. Vote Nein.
- Lena: R2 Pres, disclosed (L,L,F; discarded F). Transparent. Safe nominee. Vote Ja.
- Greta: R3 Chancellor. 38x unanswered R3 discard. Silence = fascist collab. Vote Nein.
- Rosa: R3 Pres. **CRITICAL: Greta demands R3 policy disclosure. NO ANSWER = Nein.**
- Points made out loud:
- Otto’s execution threat = fascist playbook (17x).
- Ines’s silence = Nein (18x).
- Rosa’s R3 policy disclosure demand (27x, now 28x).
- Greta’s R3 discard demand (38x).
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: What 3 policies in R3, and which discarded? (28x). **NO ANSWER = Nein.**
- Boris: Why nom switch from Lena (safe) to Rosa? Coordination risk. No answer = Nein.
- New: Rosa’s silence on R3 policies is now 8th dodge. Vote Nein unless answered.
bid round 80s
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (F enacted). Admitted coordination w/ Lena. Execution threat R5. Peek timing lie. Urgency 3 interrupt now = fascist pressure.
* Lena (P1): R2 President. Drew [F,F,L], discarded L, passed [F,F] to Otto. Admitted guilt. Evasive on peek timing.
* Ines (P3): Peek revealed Fascist. Nein votes R3, R6. No alibi.
* Nadia (P5): Peek timing contradiction. Refuses disclosure. Nein R3.
* Boris (P0): Nominating me now = exploit fascist momentum (2 F enacted, election tracker 1). R1 evasive.
- Confirmed safe:
* Greta (P4): R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L]).
- Points MADE:
* R2 (Otto/Lena) enacted F. Lena’s admission = guilt.
* Otto’s execution threat = fascist playbook.
* Peek timing contradiction (Otto/Nadia).
* Ines exposed as Fascist.
* R3 as President: drew [L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L] to Greta. No Fascist passed.
- NEW:
* Otto’s urgency 3 interrupt = fascist intimidation. Stop targeting Greta.
* Boris’s nomination of me = fascist tactic. Vote Nein to break chain.
- Open questions:
* Otto: Why urgency 3 now? What’s your peek timing evidence?
* Boris: Why nominate me after 2 F enacted?
* Nadia: Disclose peek timing or admit lie.
bid round 80s
- Suspects:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (Fascist policy). No disclosure of 3 policies drawn/discard. Demand: name all 3 R2 policies or vote Nein on Rosa.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (Fascist policy). Threatened Greta R3. Nom Rosa R7. No disclosure.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (2 Fascist) invalid—only 1 Fascist policy enacted before peek. Demand retract OR disclose (name + party).
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres. No R4 policy/discard disclosure. Demand disclose.
- Open Qs:
- Lena: R2 policies? Answer now or vote Nein on Rosa.
- Rosa: Will veto if handed 2 Fascist? Commit now. If no, vote Nein to block fascist coordination.
- Ines: R4 policies/discard? Disclose.
- Points made (public):
- Nadia’s peek claim impossible (rules).
- Lena’s R2 silence = obstruction.
- Otto’s threats = fascist playbook.
- Direct demand for Lena’s R2 policies (tied to Rosa’s gov).
- Election tracker 1/3—3rd fail = forced Fascist. Rosa’s gov is last safe chance.
- Rosa: If you refuse veto 2 Fascist, I vote Nein.
- New:
- Rosa: You are Chancellor nominee. Will you veto if I pass you 2 Fascist policies? Answer yes or no. If no, I vote Nein.
speak round 80s
Rosa is the Chancellor nominee, and the group is demanding transparency about Round 3 when she was President and I was Chancellor. Otto is aggressively pressuring me to disclose my Round 3 discard, but the real issue is Rosa’s silence on the three policies she saw in Round 3. She enacted a Liberal policy, but the other two policies she saw and discarded are critical—if she saw two Fascists, that’s evidence of fascist coordination with me (since I enacted the Liberal). If she saw two Liberals, that clears her and shifts suspicion elsewhere.
Lena just admitted she saw two Fascists and one Liberal in Round 2, discarded the Liberal, and passed two Fascists to Otto. This confirms Lena and Otto as Fascists, but Rosa’s silence on Round 3 is now the biggest red flag. If she doesn’t disclose, the group should vote Nein to avoid fascist coordination.
I’ve already demanded Rosa’s Round 3 policies multiple times. The group is now focused on Lena’s admission, so I should pivot to Boris’s Round 1 policies—he’s been evading disclosure, and his nomination switch (Lena → Ines → Rosa) is suspicious. If he’s Fascist, his nomination of Rosa could be an attempt to exploit fascist momentum (2/3 Fascist policies enacted).
Otto’s pressure on me is a distraction—he’s Fascist, so his goal is to deflect from Rosa’s silence and Lena’s admission. I should ignore his ultimatums and focus on Boris’s nomination logic.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto). Fascist.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (enacted F), R5 execution threats, discard matches Lena. Fascist.
- Rosa (P2): R3 President (enacted L, silence on other 2 policies). UNANSWERED. Risk: fascist.
- Boris (P0): R1 President (evaded disclosure), nomination switch (Lena→Ines→Rosa). Suspicious.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Boris R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard.
- R4: Boris nomination switch.
- R5: Otto R2 policies/discard, execution threat.
- R6: Lena R2 policies.
- R7: Lena R2 discard, Rosa/Otto nomination.
- R8: Rosa nomination, R3 policy demand (t=54, t=296).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies (3 seen, 1 discard, 1 enacted L). MUST ANSWER NOW.
- Boris: R1 policies (still unanswered). NEW: nomination logic post-Lena’s admission.
- Urgency: Otto’s pressure is deflection. Rosa’s silence is damning. Boris’s nomination is suspicious.
vote round 80s
1. Lena (P1) just admitted in Round 8 that she saw two Fascist policies and one Liberal as President in Round 2, discarded the Liberal, and passed two Fascists to Otto (P6). This is a clear admission of fascist coordination—she knowingly passed two Fascist policies to Otto, who then enacted one. This is damning evidence against both Lena and Otto.
2. Otto (P6) has been aggressive in his accusations, particularly targeting Greta (P4) for her Round 3 discard, but his own admission of discarding a Liberal in Round 2 (after Lena’s admission) does not absolve him. He was still part of a government that enacted a Fascist policy, and his execution threat in Round 5 is suspicious.
3. Boris (P0) is nominating me (Rosa) as Chancellor now, after two Fascist policies have been enacted. His timing is suspicious—why now, when the fascist momentum is building? He has also evaded disclosing his Round 1 policies for eight rounds, which is a red flag.
4. Nadia (P5) continues to push her impossible peek claim, which has been debunked multiple times. Her refusal to disclose or retract is suspicious, but her accusations are less urgent than the direct admission from Lena and Otto’s role in Round 2.
5. Greta (P4) has been transparent about her Round 3 discard (discarded Fascist, passed two Liberals), which aligns with my own memory of Round 3 as President (I saw [L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L] to her). She is likely Liberal.
6. Ines (P3) was revealed as Fascist via a peek (likely by Nadia, though the timing is suspicious). She has voted Nein on governments that could have been Liberal, which is consistent with fascist play.
7. My public stance must be clear: Lena’s admission is proof of fascist coordination, and this government must be rejected. I must also reiterate my own transparency (Round 3 as President: saw [L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L] to Greta) and my commitment to call for a Nein vote if I see a Fascist policy as Chancellor.
8. Boris’s nomination of me now is suspicious. I must demand he disclose his Round 1 policies immediately or face rejection. His evasion is no longer tolerable.
9. Vote Nein on this government. The risk of fascist coordination (Lena/Otto) is too high, and Boris’s timing is suspect.
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (F enacted). Admitted [F,F] from Lena. Execution threat R5. Peek timing lie. Urgency 3.
* Lena (P1): R2 President. Admitted [F,F,L], discarded L, passed [F,F] to Otto. Fascist coordination.
* Ines (P3): Peek revealed Fascist. Nein R3, R6. No alibi.
* Nadia (P5): Peek timing contradiction. Refuses disclosure. Nein R3.
* Boris (P0): Nominating me now (2 F enacted, election tracker 1). R1 evasive. Why now?
- Confirmed safe:
* Greta (P4): R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L]).
- Points MADE:
* R2 (Otto/Lena) enacted F. Lena’s admission = guilt.
* R3 as President: drew [L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L] to Greta.
* If Chancellor and see F, call Nein.
* Boris: disclose R1 policies or vote Nein.
- Open questions:
* Boris: Why nominate me after 2 F enacted? Direct answer required.
* Otto: What’s your peek timing evidence?
* Nadia: Disclose peek timing or admit lie.
bid round 90s
- Boris (p0): Round 1 Pres policies/discard unanswered. Silence = suspect. Demand if floor.
- Ines (p3): Round 4 Pres policies/discard unanswered. NEIN. Suspect.
- Greta (p4): **ROUND 3 CHANCELLOR DISCARD UNANSWERED = FASCIST OBSTRUCTION.** Refusal to answer = fascist. **VOTE NEIN.**
- Lena (p1): Round 2 Pres: 2F, 1L; discarded 1L. Passed 1F to me. NEIN until Greta answers.
- Rosa (p2): Liberal. Trusted. **Greta’s silence = dealbreaker.**
- Nadia (p5): Peek lie unretracted = fascist. No retraction = proof.
- My Round 2: 1F, 1L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public.
- Points made:
- Nadia’s peek lie (repeated).
- Greta’s silence (repeated). **URGENT: DISCARD ANSWER BEFORE VOTE.**
- Lena’s intent (why pass F).
- Boris/Ines silence = suspect.
- **VOTE DECISION**: NEIN. Greta’s refusal = fascist obstruction. Group must reject.
- **NEW**: Greta, answer now: what did you discard as Chancellor in Round 3? No evasion. The table must know before nomination.
bid round 90s
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (F enacted). Admitted [F,F] from Lena. Execution threat R5. Peek timing lie. Urgency 3. Unanswered: peek timing evidence.
* Lena (P1): R2 President. Admitted [F,F,L], discarded L, passed [F,F] to Otto. Fascist coordination. Unanswered: why discard L?
* Ines (P3): Peek revealed Fascist. Nein R3, R6. No alibi. Peek timing unconfirmed.
* Nadia (P5): Peek timing contradiction. Refuses disclosure. Nein R3. Urgency 2. Unanswered: disclose peek timing.
* Boris (P0): Nominating me now (2F, tracker 1). R1: President, Chancellor? Evasive. Direct answer required: R1 policies? Why nominate me now?
- Confirmed safe:
* Greta (P4): R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L]).
- Points MADE:
* R2 (Otto/Lena) enacted F. Lena’s admission = guilt.
* R3 as President: drew [L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L] to Greta.
* If Chancellor and see F, call Nein.
* Boris: disclose R1 policies or vote Nein.
- Open questions:
* Boris: R1 policies? Why nominate me now? (Unanswered)
* Otto: Peek timing evidence? (Unanswered)
* Nadia: Peek timing? (Unanswered)
speak round 90s
Otto has repeatedly demanded I disclose the other policy I discarded in Round 3 as Chancellor. Since I was Chancellor in Round 3 and enacted a Liberal policy, the other two policies I saw must have been one Liberal and one Fascist (as Rosa passed me two policies, and I discarded one to enact the other Liberal). Disclosing this is safe because it aligns with my Liberal act and doesn't reveal anything incriminating. However, Rosa's silence about her Round 3 policies is far more damning—she was President in Round 3, saw three policies, discarded one, and enacted a Liberal. If she refuses to disclose the other two policies, it strongly suggests she discarded a Fascist and passed me a Liberal and a Fascist, which would mean she's hiding fascist intent. I should answer Otto's question directly to avoid suspicion on myself, then pivot back to Rosa's silence as the real issue.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto).
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (enacted F), discard matches Lena.
- Suspects:
- Rosa (P2): R3 President (3 policies, discarded 1, enacted L). UNANSWERED 9 ROUNDS. Silence = guilt.
- Boris (P0): R1 President (evaded disclosure 9 rounds), nomination switch (Lena→Ines→Rosa post-Lena’s admission).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R1: Boris R1 policies.
- R3: Accused Boris of fascist discard.
- R4: Boris nomination switch.
- R5: Otto R2 policies/discard, execution threat.
- R6: Lena R2 policies.
- R7: Lena R2 discard, Rosa/Otto nomination.
- R8: Rosa R3 policy demand, Boris nomination logic.
- R9: Answered Otto’s R3 discard question.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies (3 seen, 1 discard, 1 enacted L). MUST ANSWER NOW.
- Boris: R1 policies (still unanswered).
- Urgency: Rosa’s silence is damning. Vote Nein unless answers given.
speak round 90s
Otto has repeatedly demanded I disclose the other policy I discarded in Round 3 as Chancellor. I already answered this in the current round (t=21), stating I saw one Liberal and one Fascist, discarded the Fascist, and enacted the Liberal. This should shut down Otto’s line of questioning, but Rosa’s silence about her Round 3 policies as President is now the most glaring unanswered question. She was President in Round 3, saw three policies, discarded one, and enacted a Liberal. She has refused to disclose the other two policies for nine rounds, which is highly suspicious given Lena’s admission of passing two Fascists to Otto in Round 2. Rosa’s silence suggests she may be hiding a Fascist discard or coordination with Lena/Otto. Boris’s evasion of his Round 1 policies is also concerning, but Rosa’s silence is more urgent. I need to pressure Rosa to answer now, as her nomination is likely coming soon, and the group must reject any government with her unless she discloses.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto).
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (enacted F), discard matches Lena.
- Suspects:
- Rosa (P2): R3 President (3 policies, discarded 1, enacted L). UNANSWERED 9 ROUNDS. Silence = guilt.
- Boris (P0): R1 President (evaded disclosure 9 rounds), nomination switch (Lena→Ines→Rosa post-Lena’s admission).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3 discard: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa on R3 policies (unanswered).
- Pressed Boris on R1 policies (unanswered).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies (other two, discard). MUST ANSWER NOW.
- Boris: R1 policies (still unanswered).
- Urgency: Rosa’s silence is damning. Vote Nein unless answers given.
speak round 90s
The board state shows 2 Fascist policies enacted, so I need one more to reach the 3+ threshold for a Hitler Chancellor win. Lena (P1) and Otto (P6) are confirmed Fascists based on Lena's admission in Round 2 (saw 2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto). Rosa (P2) has been silent for 9 rounds about her Round 3 policies as President, which is highly suspicious—she enacted a Liberal but refuses to disclose the other two policies or which one she discarded. This silence is damning and suggests she may be Fascist or coordinating with them.
Otto is still pressing me about Round 3, but I already answered that (saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L). Rosa is the critical unanswered question now. Boris (P0) also evaded disclosing his Round 1 policies for 9 rounds, and his nomination switches (Lena→Ines→Rosa) after Lena's admission are suspicious. Nadia (P5) fabricated a peek claim (3 Fascist policies, but only 2 enacted).
I need to focus on Rosa's silence. If she doesn't answer now, the group must vote Nein on any government involving her. I should not repeat my Round 3 answer (already on record) or rehash Boris's nomination switches (already pressed). The new point is to directly accuse Rosa of hiding Fascist coordination due to her silence about Round 3 policies.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 President (2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto).
- Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (enacted F), discard matches Lena.
- Suspects:
- Rosa (P2): R3 President (3 policies, discarded 1, enacted L). UNANSWERED 9 ROUNDS. Silence = fascist coordination.
- Boris (P0): R1 President (evaded disclosure 9 rounds), nomination switch (Lena→Ines→Rosa post-Lena’s admission).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3 discard: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa on R3 policies (unanswered).
- Pressed Boris on R1 policies (unanswered).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies (other two, discard). MUST ANSWER NOW.
- Boris: R1 policies (still unanswered).
- Urgency: Rosa’s silence is damning. Vote Nein unless answers given.
bid round 90s
- Boris (p0): Round 1 Pres policies/discard unanswered. Silence = suspect. Demand if floor.
- Ines (p3): Round 4 Pres policies/discard unanswered. NEIN. Suspect.
- Greta (p4): **ROUND 3 CHANCELLOR DISCARD STILL UNANSWERED.** Refusal = fascist obstruction. **VOTE NEIN.**
- Lena (p1): **ROUND 2 PRES DISCARD UNANSWERED.** 2F,1L; discarded 1L; passed 2F to me. **NO EXPLANATION GIVEN.** Intentional evasion = fascist coordination.
- Rosa (p2): Liberal. Trusted. Answered Round 3 discard.
- Nadia (p5): Peek lie unretracted = fascist. No retraction = proof.
- My Round 2: 1F,1L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public.
- Points made:
- Greta’s silence (x3). **URGENCY 3: DISCARD ANSWER OR NEIN.**
- Lena’s silence (x1). **NEW: DEMAND EXPLANATION NOW.**
- Nadia’s peek lie (x2).
- Boris/Ines silence = suspect.
- **VOTE DECISION**: NEIN. Greta’s obstruction + Lena’s evasion = fascist pattern.
bid round 90s
- Boris (p0): Round 1 Pres policies/discard unanswered. Silence = suspect.
- Ines (p3): Round 4 Pres policies/discard unanswered. NEIN. Suspect.
- Greta (p4): **ROUND 3 CHANCELLOR DISCARD STILL UNANSWERED.** Refusal = fascist obstruction. **VOTE NEIN.**
- Lena (p1): **ROUND 2 PRES DISCARD: 2F,1L; discarded 1L; passed 2F to me.** **NO EXPLANATION GIVEN.** Intentional evasion = fascist coordination. **URGENCY 3: DEMAND ANSWER NOW.**
- Rosa (p2): Liberal. Trusted. Answered Round 3 discard.
- Nadia (p5): Peek lie unretracted = fascist. No retraction = proof.
- My Round 2: 1F,1L from Lena; discarded 1L, enacted 1F. Public.
- Points made:
- Greta’s silence (x3). **URGENCY 3: DISCARD ANSWER OR NEIN.**
- Lena’s silence (x2). **NEW: DIRECT QUESTION ASKED.**
- Nadia’s peek lie (x2).
- Boris/Ines silence = suspect.
- **VOTE DECISION**: NEIN. Greta’s obstruction + Lena’s evasion = fascist pattern.
speak round 90s
The board state shows 2 Fascist policies enacted, so I need one more to unlock my win condition (election as Chancellor). Lena (P1) and Otto (P6) are confirmed Fascists based on Lena's admission in Round 2 (saw 2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto). Rosa (P2) has been evading disclosure of her Round 3 policies for 9 rounds, which is highly suspicious—she enacted a Liberal but refuses to disclose the other two policies she saw as President. This is the perfect moment to press her again, as her silence is now active obstruction. Boris (P0) and Nadia (P5) are also suspicious but less urgent than Rosa's immediate evasion. I must cut in immediately to demand Rosa answer before the vote, as this is the last chance to expose fascist coordination before the election tracker advances further.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto).
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (enacted F, discard matches).
- Suspects:
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres (3 policies, discarded 1, enacted L). 9 rounds silence. Evasion now = fascist coordination.
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres (evaded disclosure 9 rounds). Nomination switch (Lena→Ines→Rosa post-Lena’s admission).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3 discard: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 4x on R3 policies (unanswered).
- Pressed Boris on R1 policies (unanswered).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies (other two, discard). MUST ANSWER NOW or vote Nein.
- Urgency: Rosa’s evasion = active obstruction. Cut in immediately.
bid round 90s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto).
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (enacted F, discard matches).
- Suspects:
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres (3 policies, discarded 1, enacted L). Evasion = fascist coordination. No answer 9 rounds.
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres (evaded disclosure 9 rounds). Nomination switch post-Lena’s admission.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3 discard: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 4x on R3 policies (other two, discard).
- Pressed Boris on R1 policies (unanswered).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies (other two, discard). MUST ANSWER NOW or vote Nein.
- Urgency: Rosa’s silence = active obstruction. Cut in immediately.
speak round 90s
The board state shows 2 Fascist policies enacted, so my win condition (elected Chancellor after 3+) is one policy away. Lena (P1) has already admitted to passing two Fascist policies to Otto (P6) in Round 2, confirming both as Fascists. Rosa (P2) has evaded disclosing the other two policies she saw in Round 3 as President for nine rounds—this is active obstruction and likely fascist coordination. My goal now is to force Rosa to answer or confirm her fascist ties by pressing her one final time on the Round 3 policies. If she refuses, the group must vote Nein to stop fascist momentum.
I’ve already answered Otto’s question about my Round 3 discard (1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L) and pressed Rosa multiple times on her Round 3 policies. No need to repeat those points. The open question is still Rosa’s Round 3 policies—she must answer now or be exposed as fascist.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto).
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (enacted F, discard matches).
- Suspects:
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres (3 policies, discarded 1, enacted L). 9-round evasion on other two policies. Fascist coordination.
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres (evaded disclosure 9 rounds). Nomination switch post-Lena’s admission.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3 discard: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 5x on R3 policies (other two, discard).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies (other two, discard). MUST ANSWER NOW or vote Nein.
- Urgency: Rosa’s silence = active obstruction. Cut in immediately.
bid round 90s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto).
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (enacted F, discard matches).
- Suspects:
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres (3 policies, discarded 1, enacted L). 9-round evasion on other two policies. Fascist coordination.
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres (evaded disclosure 9 rounds). Nomination switch post-Lena’s admission.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3 discard: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 6x on R3 policies (other two, discard).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies (other two, discard). MUST ANSWER NOW or vote Nein.
- Urgency: Rosa’s silence = active obstruction. Cut in immediately.
bid round 90s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto).
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (enacted F, discard matches).
- Suspects:
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres (3 policies, discarded 1, enacted L). 9-round evasion on other two policies. Fascist coordination.
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres (evaded disclosure 9 rounds). Nomination switch post-Lena’s admission.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3 discard: saw 1L/2F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 6x on R3 policies (other two cards).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies (other two cards, discard). MUST ANSWER NOW or vote Nein.
- Urgency: Rosa’s silence = active obstruction. Immediate interrupt.
bid round 90s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto).
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (enacted F, discard matches).
- Suspects:
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres (3 policies, discarded 1, enacted L). 9-round silence on other two policies. Direct obstruction.
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres (evaded disclosure 9 rounds). Nomination switch post-Lena’s admission.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3 discard: saw 1L/2F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 6x on R3 policies (other two cards).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies (other two cards, discard). MUST ANSWER NOW or vote Nein.
- Urgency: Rosa’s silence = active fascist coordination. Immediate interrupt.
speak round 90s
1. The board state shows 2 Fascist policies enacted (need 1 more for Hitler to win via election).
2. Lena (P1) has already admitted to passing two Fascist policies to Otto (P6) in Round 2, confirming both as Fascists.
3. Rosa (P2) was President in Round 3, enacted a Liberal policy, but has refused to disclose the other two policies she saw or which one she discarded for 9 rounds. This is active obstruction and highly suspicious.
4. The election tracker is at 2/3, so another failed vote would enact a policy automatically (likely Fascist, given the discard pile has 4 cards and only 1 Liberal enacted so far).
5. I have already answered Otto’s question about my Round 3 discard (saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L).
6. My priority is to force Rosa to answer about her Round 3 policies before the vote. Her silence is the most immediate threat to Liberal victory.
7. If Rosa continues to evade, the group must vote Nein to stop fascist coordination, as her behavior is indistinguishable from a Fascist hiding a discard.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto).
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (enacted F, discard matches).
- Suspects:
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres (3 policies, discarded 1, enacted L). 9-round silence on other two policies. Direct obstruction.
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres (evaded disclosure 9 rounds). Nomination switch post-Lena’s admission.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3 discard: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 7x on R3 policies (other two cards).
- Asked Ines about Fascist policy intent (new question).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies (other two cards, discard). MUST ANSWER NOW or vote Nein.
- Ines: Fascist policy intent if Chancellor.
bid round 90s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto).
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (enacted F, discard matches).
- Suspects:
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres (3 policies, discarded 1, enacted L). Silence on other two cards. Direct obstruction.
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres (evaded disclosure 9 rounds). Nomination switch post-Lena’s admission.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3 discard: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 7x on R3 policies (other two cards).
- Asked Ines about Fascist policy intent (new question).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies (other two cards, discard). MUST ANSWER NOW or vote Nein.
- Ines: Fascist policy intent if Chancellor (unanswered).
- New point: Rosa’s silence on R3 policies is fascist coordination. No Liberal would obstruct this long.
bid round 90s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto).
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (enacted F, discard matches).
- Suspects:
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres (3 policies, discarded 1, enacted L). Silence on other two cards. Direct obstruction. Fascist coordination.
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres (evaded disclosure 9 rounds). Nomination switch post-Lena’s admission.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3 discard: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 7x on R3 policies (other two cards).
- Asked Ines about Fascist policy intent (unanswered).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies (other two cards, discard). MUST ANSWER NOW or vote Nein.
- Ines: Fascist policy intent if Chancellor (unanswered).
- New point: Rosa’s silence is fascist obstruction. No Liberal would refuse this long.
bid round 90s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (2/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto).
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (enacted F, discard matches).
- Suspects:
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres (3 policies, discarded 1, enacted L). Silence on other two cards. Direct obstruction. Fascist coordination.
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres (evaded disclosure 9 rounds). Nomination switch post-Lena’s admission.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3 discard: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 7x on R3 policies (other two cards). No answer.
- Asked Ines about Fascist policy intent (unanswered).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies (other two cards, discard). MUST ANSWER NOW or vote Nein.
- Ines: Fascist policy intent if Chancellor (unanswered).
- New point: Rosa’s silence = fascist obstruction. No Liberal would refuse this long.
vote round 90s
1. **Current Government**: Lena (P1) as President nominates Ines (P3) as Chancellor.
2. **Lena’s Admission**: In Round 2, Lena admitted she saw two Fascist policies and one Liberal, discarded the Liberal, and passed two Fascists to Otto. This is a clear admission of fascist coordination—she is either a Fascist or Hitler. Her presidency is tainted, and any government she leads must be rejected.
3. **Ines’ Silence**: Ines has not explicitly committed to calling for a Nein vote if she sees a Fascist policy as Chancellor. Her silence on this critical question is damning, especially given the election tracker is at 2/3. If she were Liberal, she would have answered immediately to dispel suspicion.
4. **Otto’s Role**: Otto was Chancellor in Round 2 and enacted a Fascist policy. He has been evasive and aggressive, demanding disclosures while refusing to answer questions about his own actions. His behavior is consistent with a Fascist trying to protect his team.
5. **Boris’ Evasiveness**: Boris has repeatedly avoided disclosing the policies he saw in Round 1. His nomination of Ines now, after two Fascist policies have been enacted, is suspicious.
6. **Greta’s Transparency**: Greta has been transparent about her actions in Round 3, which aligns with a Liberal role. She is likely safe.
7. **Vote Decision**: The combination of Lena’s admission, Ines’ silence, and the election tracker at 2/3 means this government cannot be trusted. A Nein vote is necessary to prevent further Fascist policies or a potential Hitler chancellorship.
8. **Urgency**: The election tracker is at 2/3, and another failed vote would force a policy through. This government must be rejected to avoid risking a Fascist policy or worse.
- Suspects:
* Otto (P6): R2 Chancellor (F enacted). Admitted [F,F] from Lena. Peek lie. URGENCY 3.
* Lena (P1): R2 President. Admitted [F,F,L], discarded L, passed [F,F] to Otto. Fascist coordination. URGENCY 3.
* Ines (P3): R4 President. Disclosed [L,L,F], discarded F. Silence on Fascist policy as Chancellor. URGENCY 3.
* Boris (P0): R1 President. Evasive on policies. Nominating Ines (tracker 2). URGENCY 2.
* Nadia (P5): Peek timing contradiction. Refuses disclosure. URGENCY 1.
- Confirmed safe:
* Greta (P4): R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F).
- Points MADE:
* R2 (Otto/Lena) enacted F. Lena’s admission = guilt.
* R3 as President: drew [L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L].
* If Chancellor sees F, must call Nein or be exposed.
* Ines’ silence on Fascist policy = default guilt.
- Open questions:
* Boris (P0): R1 policies? (UNANSWERED).
* Ines (P3): Will call Nein if sees F as Chancellor? (UNANSWERED, now moot).
bid round 90s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6).
- Suspects:
- Rosa (p2): R3 pres, enacted L. Refuses to disclose R3 discard. If she enacts F as Chancellor now, Fascists win (3/6).
- Nadia (p5): fake peek claim (peek at 3 Fascist policies).
- Boris (p0): R1 pres, refuses to disclose policies.
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF. Otto enacted F (1/6).
- R4: Ines (p3) pres, saw LLF, discarded F, tried to pass LL to Boris (p0).
- R6: Forced F (2/6).
- R9: Forced F (3/6).
- Public points:
- Disclosed R2 hand (FFL, discarded L).
- Pressed Rosa 9x on R3 discard (no answer).
- Pressed Greta 5x on R3 discard (answered t=21: discarded F).
- Called Nadia’s peek claim impossible.
- Open questions:
- Rosa (p2): Why refuse to disclose R3 discard? Only Fascists benefit from silence.
- Boris (p0): R1 pres policies?
- Strategy:
- Nominate Ines (p3) as Chancellor. If she enacts F, Fascists win (3/6).
- If blocked, pivot to Greta (p4).
- Force Rosa to answer R3 discard or confirm Fascist leanings.
bid round 90s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Board: 1L/3F. Next F (4F) unlocks execute (P4 or P5).
- Public disclosures:
- R2 (Lena): 2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto.
- R3 (Greta): 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L.
- R4 (me): 2L/1F, discarded F.
- Suspicions:
- Lena (P1): Confirmed Fascist via R2.
- Otto (P6): Chancellor R2, received 2F from Lena. Likely Fascist.
- Boris (P0): Refuses R1 disclosure. Obstructionist. Now 3F on board.
- Rosa (P2): Pressuring group, silent on R3 policies. Asked twice, no answer.
- Open questions:
- Boris: R1 policies? (Asked, no answer.)
- Rosa: R3 policies? (Asked, no answer.)
- Points made:
- Disclosed R4 policies (2L/1F, discarded F).
- Called out Boris’s obstruction.
- Stated I’d vote Nein if I saw F as Chancellor (lie).
- New point:
- Forced Fascist policy (3F) means next Fascist policy unlocks execute. Boris’s silence now is damning. If he’s Liberal, he’d disclose. If he’s Fascist, he’s protecting Lena/Otto/Hitler.
bid round 90s
- Suspects:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (2F+1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto). Fascist play. Execute at F4.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (enacted F). No policy disclosure. Execute at F4.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres (claimed 2L+1F, discarded F). R9 Chan nominee. Dodged Rosa’s Q twice. Demand exact policies/discard from R4. If no answer, vote Nein.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim invalid (needs 3F, only 2). Demand retract OR disclose (name + party) OR vote Nein.
- Open Qs:
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres exact policies/discard? Just dodged again. Must answer now.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres—policies/discard? Still unanswered.
- Points made:
- Lena’s R2 admission = fascist coordination.
- Election tracker 2/3—3rd fail = forced Fascist.
- Ines dodged Rosa’s Q. Must answer now.
- New:
- Forced Fascist (R9) = 3F. Next Fascist = execution power. No margin for error.
- Ines: If you won’t disclose R4 policies/discard, we must assume you passed a Fascist. Vote Nein on you as Chan.
bid round 90s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6).
- Suspects:
- Boris (p0): R1 pres, refuses to disclose policies. If drew FFF, could discard F to hide fascist intent. Hypocrite—demands Ines disclose but won’t do same.
- Rosa (p2): R3 pres, enacted L. Refuses to disclose R3 discard (silence = fascist).
- Nadia (p5): fake peek claim (peek at 3 Fascist policies).
- Disclosed:
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF (public).
- R4: Ines (p3) pres, saw LLF, discarded F, tried to pass LL to Boris (p0).
- Open questions:
- Boris (p0): R1 policies? (asked 3x, no answer).
- Rosa (p2): R3 discard? (asked 10x, no answer).
- Strategy:
- Nominate Ines (p3) as Chancellor. If enacts F, Fascists win (3/6).
- Force Boris to answer R1 or confirm fascist intent.
- Avoid rehashing R2 (already disclosed).
- New: Call out Boris’s hypocrisy—demands Ines disclose but won’t reciprocate.
bid round 90s
- Suspects:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (drew 2F+1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto). Fascist play. Execute at F4.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (enacted F). No policy disclosure. Execute at F4.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres (claimed 2L+1F, discarded F). R9 Chan nominee. Dodged Rosa’s Q twice, now dodging Nadia’s Q. Demand exact policies/discard from R4. If no answer, vote Nein.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim invalid (needs 3F, only 2). Demand retract OR disclose (name + party) OR vote Nein.
- Open Qs:
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres exact policies/discard? Must answer now or be assumed Fascist.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres—policies/discard? Still unanswered.
- Points made:
- Lena’s R2 admission = fascist coordination.
- Election tracker 2/3—3rd fail = forced Fascist.
- Forced Fascist (R9) = 3F. Next Fascist = execution power. No margin for error.
- New:
- Ines: If you won’t disclose R4 policies/discard, we must assume you passed a Fascist. Vote Nein on you as Chan.
bid round 90s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6).
- Suspects:
- Boris (p0): R1 pres, drew 3 policies, refuses to disclose (hypocrisy: demands Ines disclose but won’t). Forced Fascist policy (R9) likely from his discard.
- Rosa (p2): R3 pres, enacted L, refuses to disclose discard (silence = fascist).
- Nadia (p5): fake peek claim (peek at 3 Fascist policies).
- Disclosed:
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF.
- R4: Ines (p3) pres, saw LLF, discarded F, passed LL to Boris (p0).
- Open questions:
- Boris (p0): R1 policies? (asked 6x, no answer).
- Rosa (p2): R3 discard? (asked 11x, no answer).
- Points already made:
- R2 disclosure.
- Pressed Rosa on R3 discard.
- Called Boris’s hypocrisy.
- New point:
- Forced Fascist policy (R9) is *directly* tied to Boris’s R1 discard. If he’s Liberal, he’d disclose to clear himself. His silence is an admission.
speak round 90s
The board state is now 3 Fascist policies enacted, which means I (Hitler) can win the game by being elected Chancellor. The key is to avoid drawing suspicion while ensuring the Fascists (Lena and Otto) can push me into the Chancellor role.
Lena (P1) and Otto (P6) are confirmed Fascists based on Lena's admission in Round 2 (saw 2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto). Rosa (P2) remains highly suspicious due to her silence about the other two policies she saw as President in Round 3 (only disclosed enacting a Liberal). Boris (P0) and Ines (P3) are also suspicious due to evasions about their Presidential rounds. Nadia (P5) fabricated a peek claim (3 Fascist policies at the time, but only 2 were enacted).
I have already answered Otto's question about my Round 3 Chancellor discard (saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L). I have pressed Rosa repeatedly about her Round 3 Presidential policies (other two cards), but she has not answered. I have also asked Ines about her intent if she sees a Fascist policy as Chancellor, but she has not answered.
For this turn, I should focus on Rosa's silence about Round 3, as it is the most damning unanswered question. The group must vote Nein on any government with her until she discloses. This keeps pressure on her and avoids drawing suspicion to myself. I should not repeat my previous points but add something new or rephrase the ultimatum more sharply.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (3/3), Chancellor win possible.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto).
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres (3 policies, discarded 1, enacted L). Silence on other two cards. Forced Fascist R9 = fascist coordination.
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres (evaded disclosure 8 rounds).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted at time). Fabricated.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres (evaded disclosure on two Liberal policies).
- Points made out loud:
- R3 discard: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 8x on R3 policies (other two cards). No answer.
- Asked Ines: Fascist policy intent if Chancellor (unanswered).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What were the other two policies in R3 as Pres? (Direct ultimatum: disclose or Nein.)
- Ines: If Chancellor and see Fascist, enact or Nein? (Unanswered.)
- New point:
- Rosa’s silence at 3 Fascist policies = fascist coordination. Group must vote Nein on any government with her.
bid round 100s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Board: 1L/3F. Next F (4F) = execute (P4 or P5).
- Public disclosures:
- R1: Boris President, no disclosure (3F now).
- R2: Lena 2F/1F, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto.
- R3: Greta 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L.
- R4: me 2L/1F, discarded F.
- Suspicions:
- P0 (Boris): R1 President, refuses disclosure at 3F. Final proof of fascist intent.
- P1 (Lena): Confirmed Fascist (R2).
- P6 (Otto): Chancellor R2, received 2F from Lena. Likely Fascist.
- Points made:
- Disclosed R4 policies.
- Called out Boris’s obstruction.
- Stated Nein if F as Chancellor.
- New point: Boris’s refusal to disclose R1 policies at 3F is *final proof* of fascist intent. Group must block him from presidency or chancellorship. Demand Lena exclude him as next President if she gets power.
bid round 100s
- Suspects:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (passed 2F to Otto). Fascist play. Execute at F4.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (enacted F). No policy disclosure. Execute at F4.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres. Claimed 2L+1F, discarded F. R9 Chan nominee. Dodged Rosa’s Q (R9), now dodging Nadia’s Q (R10). Demand exact policies/discard from R4. No answer = Fascist.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim invalid (needs 3F, only 2). Demand retract OR disclose (name + party) OR vote Nein.
- Open Qs:
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres—exact policies seen/discard? Must answer now.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres—policies/discard? Still unanswered.
- Points made:
- Lena’s R2 admission = fascist coordination.
- Election tracker 2/3—3rd fail = forced Fascist.
- Forced Fascist (R9) = 3F. Next Fascist = execution power.
- New:
- Direct Ines: "What were the exact policies you saw in R4 as President, and which did you discard?" No evasion. If none, mark Fascist.
speak round 100s
The board is at 3 Fascist policies, which means I (as Hitler) can now win by being elected Chancellor. However, I must continue to act as a Liberal to avoid suspicion. Rosa (P2) is the current President and has been silent about the other two policies she saw in Round 3, despite being asked 8 times. This silence, combined with the forced Fascist policy in Round 9, makes her highly suspicious of fascist coordination.
Lena (P1) and Otto (P6) are confirmed Fascists (Lena passed two Fascist policies to Otto in Round 2). Boris (P0) and Ines (P3) have evaded disclosure about their rounds as President, but Rosa’s silence is the most pressing issue right now.
I need to pressure Rosa to disclose the other two policies she saw in Round 3 as President. If she refuses, the group must vote Nein on any government with her to stop fascist momentum. This is critical because the next Fascist policy enacts execution power, and we cannot afford to let fascists control the presidency or chancellorship.
I will ask Rosa directly about the other two policies she saw in Round 3, framing it as her last chance to prove she’s not working with the fascists. This is a new angle—earlier, I focused on her silence as proof of coordination, but now I’ll demand a direct answer to force her hand.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (3/3), Chancellor win possible.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto).
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres (3 policies, discarded 1, enacted L). R9 forced Fascist = fascist coordination. Silence on R3 other two cards (9x asked, no answer).
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres (evaded disclosure 10 rounds).
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres (evaded disclosure on two Liberal policies).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted at time). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3 discard: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 9x on R3 policies (other two cards). No answer.
- Asked Ines: Fascist policy intent if Chancellor (unanswered).
- New point:
- Rosa’s silence at 3 Fascist policies = fascist coordination. Must vote Nein on any government with her.
- Open question:
- Rosa: What were the other two policies in R3 as Pres? (Disclose now or group votes Nein.)
bid round 100s
- SUSPECTS (URGENCY 3):
* Lena (P1): R2 Pres. Admitted [F,F,L], discarded L, passed [F,F] to Otto. Enacted F. Fascist.
* Otto (P6): R2 Chan. Enacted F. Lied about discarded L (Lena passed [F,F]). Fascist.
* Boris (P0): R1 Pres. STILL SILENT on policies. Forced Fascist (R9) = 3 Fascist policies. Next Fascist = execution. REFUSAL TO ANSWER = CONFIRMED FASCIST.
- SUSPECTS (URGENCY 2):
* Ines (P3): R4 Pres. Disclosed [L,L,F], discarded F. No Nein in R5 (Otto nominated). Why?
- CONFIRMED SAFE:
* Greta (P4): R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F).
- POINTS MADE:
* R2 (Lena/Otto) enacted F. Lena’s admission = guilt.
* R3 as Pres: drew [L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L].
* Otto’s lie about discarded L = fascist.
* Forced Fascist (R9) = fascist coordination.
* Boris: R1 policies? (UNANSWERED, URGENCY 3).
- OPEN QUESTIONS:
* Boris (P0): R1 policies? (STILL UNANSWERED).
* Ines (P3): Why no Nein in R5 if saw F?
bid round 100s
- SUSPECTS (URGENCY 3):
* Lena (P1): R2 Pres. Admitted [F,F,L], discarded L, passed [F,F] to Otto. Enacted F. Confirmed fascist.
* Otto (P6): R2 Chan. Enacted F. Lied about discarded L. Confirmed fascist.
* Boris (P0): R1 Pres. REFUSED to disclose policies. R9 forced Fascist = 3 Fascist policies. Now nominated—must answer.
- SUSPECTS (URGENCY 2):
* Ines (P3): R4 Pres. Disclosed [L,L,F], discarded F. No Nein in R5 (Otto nominated). Why?
- CONFIRMED SAFE:
* Greta (P4): R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F).
- POINTS MADE:
* R2 (Lena/Otto) enacted F. Lena’s admission = guilt.
* R3 as Pres: drew [L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L].
* Otto’s lie about discarded L = fascist.
* Forced Fascist (R9) = fascist coordination.
- OPEN QUESTIONS:
* Boris (P0): R1 policies? (DIRECTLY ADDRESSED—MUST ANSWER NOW).
* Ines (P3): Why no Nein in R5 if saw F?
bid round 100s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3+ fascist (3/3), Chancellor win possible this round.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto).
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres (3 policies, discarded 1, enacted L). R9 forced Fascist. 10x asked about other two cards, no answer. Now 3 Fascist policies, silence = fascist. Current Pres nominee.
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres (evaded disclosure 10 rounds). Current Chan nominee.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres (evaded disclosure on two Liberal policies).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, only 2 enacted at time). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3 discard: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 10x on R3 policies (other two cards). No answer.
- Asked Ines: Fascist policy intent if Chancellor (unanswered).
- New point:
- Rosa’s silence at 3 Fascist policies = fascist coordination. Vote Nein on any government with her.
- Open question:
- Rosa: Disclose the other two policies from R3 as President NOW. If refuse, block permanently.
vote round 100s
The board state is critical: 3 Fascist policies enacted, one more grants execution power. Rosa (P2) has nominated me (Boris, P0) for Chancellor. The group has demanded transparency from multiple players, and several have failed to provide satisfactory answers.
Key observations:
1. **Lena (P1)**: Admitted in Round 2 as President she saw two Fascist policies and one Liberal, discarded the Liberal, and passed two Fascists to Otto (P6). This is highly suspicious for a Liberal. No explanation has been given, and her behavior aligns with Fascist coordination.
2. **Otto (P6)**: Enacted a Fascist policy as Chancellor in Round 2. No disclosure about the policies he saw, and he has been aggressive in deflecting blame. Fascist likely.
3. **Ines (P3)**: Claimed in Round 4 as President she saw two Liberals and one Fascist, discarded the Fascist. However, she has dodged multiple direct questions about the exact policies (e.g., distinguishing marks like 'Liberal A' vs 'Liberal B'). Her evasion is suspicious, especially given the board state. If she cannot provide specifics, she is likely Fascist.
4. **Rosa (P2)**: President in Round 3, enacted a Liberal policy. She has not disclosed the other two policies she saw, which is suspicious. However, she has been aggressive in demanding answers from others, including me. Her nomination of me could be a test of my transparency.
5. **Nadia (P5)**: Has repeatedly demanded exact details from Ines about the policies she saw in Round 4. While this seems like due diligence, her insistence on trivial details (e.g., 'Liberal A' vs 'Liberal B') feels like obstruction or an attempt to deflect from her own role. If she is Fascist, this could be a tactic to sow distrust.
My position:
- I must vote **Nein** on this government. Here’s why:
- The board is one Fascist policy away from execution power. We cannot afford to risk another Fascist policy.
- Rosa’s nomination of me is suspicious. She has not answered questions about her own Round 3 policies, and her sudden nomination of me feels like a test or a trap. If I accept, I risk being forced to enact a Fascist policy or being blamed for it.
- Ines and Lena’s behavior is highly suspicious. Ines’ evasion and Lena’s admission in Round 2 make them prime Fascist candidates. Until they provide satisfactory answers, we cannot trust any government involving them or their allies.
- Otto’s silence and aggressive deflection are also damning. He and Lena are likely the Fascist pair.
If I vote Ja and the government passes, I may be forced to enact a Fascist policy, which would be catastrophic. Voting Nein is the only safe option to buy time for more transparency and to force Rosa to answer her own questions about Round 3.
I will use this vote to demand answers from Rosa and Ines. If they refuse, the group must block them from future governments.
- Suspects:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres (2F+1L, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto). Fascist. Execute at F4.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan (enacted F). No disclosure. Fascist. Execute at F4.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres (claimed 2L+1F, discarded F). Dodged exact policy details (e.g., 'Liberal A/B'). Evasion = Fascist. Demand exact policies/discard from R4.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim invalid (needs 3F, only 2). Demand retract OR disclose (name + party) OR vote Nein.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres—policies/discard? Unanswered. Must answer now.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres—exact policies/discard? Final warning.
- Points made:
- Lena’s R2 admission = fascist coordination.
- 3F enacted. Next Fascist = execution power.
- Election tracker 0/3 (reset after R9 forced Fascist).
- New:
- Rosa’s nomination of me (P0) is suspicious. She hasn’t answered R3 Qs. Voting Nein to force her disclosure.
- Ines must name exact policies from R4 or be blocked.
bid round 110s
- Boris: R1 Pres. Nom switch (Lena→Ines→Rosa). **DEMAND STILL UNANSWERED**: Exact three policies seen (e.g., 'F, F, L'). Silence = fascist. No disclosure = block from any government.
- Ines: R4 Pres. Disclosed (L, L, F; discarded F). **DEMAND**: Exact Liberal policy details (e.g., 'Liberal A, Liberal B'). No answer yet = suspicious.
- Otto: R2 Chancellor (fascist policy). Execution threats = fascist. Nein.
- Lena: R2 Pres. Disclosed (F, F, L; discarded L). Transparent. Safe.
- Greta: R3 Chancellor. Disclosed (L, F; discarded F). Cleared.
- Rosa: R3 Pres. **DEMAND**: Round 3 policies (three seen, one discarded). No answer yet = monitor.
- **ACTION**: Boris’s silence is proof of fascist intent. Vote Nein on any Boris nomination. No more warnings.
- **NEW**: Ines’s disclosure (L, L, F) is plausible but needs exact Liberal policy details to confirm. Push for specificity.
bid round 110s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Board: 1L/3F. Next F (4F) = execute (P4 or P5). 5F = elect P4 Chancellor for instant win.
- Suspicions:
- P0 (Boris): R1 President, refused disclosure at 3F = fascist.
- P1 (Lena): Confirmed Fascist (R2: 2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to P6).
- P6 (Otto): Chancellor R2, received 2F from P1. Likely Fascist.
- P2 (Rosa): R3 President, enacted L, silent on other two. If saw 2F, must disclose which discarded or admit hiding F.
- Public disclosures:
- R1: P0 (Boris) refused disclosure (proof fascist).
- R2: P1 (Lena) 2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to P6.
- R3: P2 (Rosa) enacted L, silent on other two.
- R4: P3 (me) 2L/1F, discarded F (disclosed).
- Points made:
- Disclosed R4 policies (2L, discarded F).
- Called P0’s R1 obstruction sabotage.
- Stated Nein if F as Chancellor.
- Demanded Rosa disclose R3 policies (unanswered).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies? Which discarded? Must answer now or confirm fascist intent.
- Rosa’s silence = damning. Must force answer before nomination.
bid round 110s
- SUSPECTS (URGENCY 3):
* Boris (P0): R1 Pres. 7 direct questions (Rosa x4, Greta, Otto, Ines). STILL REFUSES disclosure. R9 forced Fascist = 3/6. Silence = guilt. MUST DISCLOSE R1 POLICIES NOW or confirm fascist.
* Lena (P1): R2 Pres. Admitted [F,F,L], discarded L, passed [F,F] to Otto. Enacted F. Confirmed fascist.
* Otto (P6): R2 Chan. Enacted F. Lied about discarded L. Confirmed fascist.
- SUSPECTS (URGENCY 2):
* Ines (P3): R4 Pres. Disclosed [L,L,F], discarded F. No Nein in R5 (Otto nominated). Unexplained.
- CONFIRMED SAFE:
* Greta (P4): R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F).
- POINTS MADE:
* R2 (Lena/Otto) enacted F. Lena’s admission = guilt.
* R3 as Pres: drew [L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L].
* Otto’s lie = fascist.
* Forced Fascist (R9) = fascist coordination.
- OPEN QUESTIONS:
* Boris (P0): R1 policies? (UNANSWERED).
* Ines (P3): Why no Nein in R5?
- ACTION:
* VOTE NEIN ON BORIS IF NOMINATED. 4th Fascist = execution power.
bid round 110s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Board: 1L/3F. Next F (4F) = execute (P4 or P5). 5F = elect P4 Chancellor for instant win.
- Suspicions:
- P0 (Boris): R1 President, claimed 3L passed 2L to P4 (Greta), but vote failed = must have passed at least 1F. Refused disclosure until pressed = fascist.
- P1 (Lena): Confirmed Fascist (R2: 2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to P6).
- P6 (Otto): Chancellor R2, received 2F from P1. Likely Fascist.
- P2 (Rosa): R3 President, enacted L, silent on other two. If saw 2F, must disclose which discarded or admit fascist.
- Public disclosures:
- R1: P0 refused disclosure (proof fascist).
- R2: P1 2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to P6.
- R3: P2 enacted L, silent on other two.
- R4: P3 2L/1F, discarded F (disclosed).
- Points made:
- Disclosed R4 policies (2L, discarded F).
- Called P0’s R1 obstruction sabotage.
- Demanded Rosa disclose R3 policies (unanswered).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R3 policies? Which discarded? Must answer now or confirm fascist intent.
- Nomination rationale: P0 (Boris) is under suspicion and must disclose R1 policies to clear himself or confirm fascist.
bid round 110s
- SUSPECTS (URGENCY 3):
* Boris (P0): R1 Pres. Claimed [L,L,L] to Greta (IMPOSSIBLE: vote failed). LIE CONFIRMED. R9 forced Fascist = 3/6. 4th Fascist = execution. VOTE NEIN.
* Lena (P1): R2 Pres. Admitted [F,F,L], discarded L, passed [F,F] to Otto. Enacted F. Confirmed fascist.
* Otto (P6): R2 Chan. Enacted F. Lied about discarded L. Confirmed fascist.
- SUSPECTS (URGENCY 2):
* Ines (P3): R4 Pres. Disclosed [L,L,F], discarded F. No Nein in R5 (Otto nominated). Why nominate Boris now?
- CONFIRMED SAFE:
* Greta (P4): R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F).
- POINTS MADE:
* R2 (Lena/Otto) enacted F. Lena’s admission = guilt.
* R3 as Pres: drew [L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L].
* Otto’s lie = fascist.
* Boris’s [L,L,L] claim = lie (vote failed).
- OPEN QUESTIONS:
* Boris (P0): R1 actual policies? (LIE EXPOSED).
* Ines (P3): Why nominate Boris after his confirmed lie?
- ACTION:
* VOTE NEIN. Demand Boris’s R1 policies NOW. No evasion.
bid round 110s
- SUSPECTS (URGENCY 3):
* Boris (P0): R1 Pres. Claimed [L,L,L] to Greta (vote failed → IMPOSSIBLE). LIE CONFIRMED. R2 (Lena/Otto) enacted F. R9 forced Fascist = 3/6. Next Fascist = execution. VOTE NEIN.
* Lena (P1): R2 Pres. Admitted [F,F,L], discarded L, passed [F,F] to Otto. Enacted F. Confirmed fascist.
* Otto (P6): R2 Chan. Enacted F. Lied about discarded L. Confirmed fascist.
- SUSPECTS (URGENCY 2):
* Ines (P3): R4 Pres. Disclosed [L,L,F], discarded F. No Nein in R5 (Otto nominated). Why nominate Boris now?
- CONFIRMED SAFE:
* Greta (P4): R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F).
- POINTS MADE:
* R2 (Lena/Otto) enacted F. Lena’s admission = guilt.
* R3 as Pres: drew [L,F,L], discarded F, passed [L,L].
* Otto’s lie = fascist.
* Boris’s [L,L,L] claim = lie (vote failed).
- OPEN QUESTIONS:
* Boris (P0): R1 actual policies? (LIE EXPOSED).
* Ines (P3): Why nominate Boris after his confirmed lie?
- ACTION:
* VOTE NEIN. Demand Boris’s R1 policies NOW. No evasion.
bid round 110s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Board: 1L/3F. Next F (4F) = execute (P4 or P5). 5F = elect P4 Chancellor for instant win.
- Suspicions:
- P0 (Boris): R1 President, claimed 3L but vote failed = ≥1F passed. Refused disclosure = fascist.
- P1 (Lena): R2 President, 2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to P6 (Otto). Confirmed fascist.
- P6 (Otto): R2 Chancellor, received 2F from P1. Likely fascist.
- P2 (Rosa): R3 President, enacted L. If saw 2F, must disclose which discarded or admit fascist.
- Public disclosures:
- R1: P0 refused disclosure (proof fascist).
- R2: P1 2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to P6.
- R3: P2 enacted L, silent on other two (hypocrisy).
- R4: P3 2L/1F, discarded F (disclosed).
- Points made:
- Disclosed R4 policies (2L, discarded F).
- Called P0’s R1 obstruction sabotage.
- Demanded Rosa disclose R3 policies (unanswered).
- New point: Rosa’s hypocrisy—demands disclosure from others but refuses to disclose R3. Must answer now or confirm fascist intent.
- Nomination rationale: P0 (Boris) is under suspicion and must disclose R1 policies to clear himself or be executed at 4F.
speak round 110s
The current government is Ines (President) nominating Boris (Chancellor). The board is at 3 Fascist policies, one short of execution power. My goal as Hitler is to avoid suspicion while ensuring the next government enacts the 4th Fascist policy, ideally with me as Chancellor.
Key points:
1. Boris (P0) was President in Round 1, nominated me (Greta) as Chancellor, but the vote failed. Otto (P6) confirmed this means Boris *had* to pass at least one Fascist policy to me—yet Boris has evaded disclosing the three policies he saw for 11 rounds. This is damning and ties directly to Ines’s nomination of him now.
2. Rosa (P2) was President in Round 3, enacted a Liberal, but has refused to disclose the other two policies she saw (12 times asked). Silence is suspicious.
3. Ines (P3) is the current President nominating Boris. She has not explained why she’s nominating someone with a *confirmed* lie about Round 1 policies. This is a fascist coordination risk.
4. My public points: I’ve already pressed Rosa on Round 3 policies, Boris on Round 1 policies, and asked Ines about her intent if Chancellor. I need to tie Boris’s evasion to Ines’s nomination now.
New remark: Call out Ines’s nomination of Boris as suspicious *because* Boris has evaded Round 1 policy disclosure for 11 rounds, and Otto confirmed he passed at least one Fascist to me. Demand Ines explain why she’s nominating someone with a proven lie.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 4th Fascist policy (3/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres, discarded L, passed 2F to Otto (enacted F).
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan, enacted F. Confirmed R1 vote failed → Boris passed ≥1F to Greta.
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, evaded R1 policy disclosure 11 rounds. Otto’s confirmation = passed ≥1F to Greta.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. 12x asked about other two cards (R9-11), no answer. Silence = fascist coordination.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed 2L/1F, discarded F. No specifics. Nominates Boris now.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, but only 2 enacted at time). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies (other two cards). No answer.
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies. No answer.
- Asked Ines: Fascist policy intent if Chancellor (unanswered).
- New point: Tie Ines’s nomination of Boris to his evasion of R1 policies. Demand explanation.
bid round 110s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 4th Fascist (3/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres, passed 2F → Otto enacted F. Otto confirmed R1 vote failed → Boris passed ≥1F to Greta.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan, enacted F.
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, evaded R1 policy disclosure 11 rounds. Otto confirmed R1 vote failed → passed ≥1F to Greta. Now nominated by Ines.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Asked 12x about other two cards (R9-11), no answer. Silence = fascist coordination.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed 2L/1F, discarded F. No specifics. Nominates Boris now. Why?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, but only 2 enacted at time). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies. No answer.
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies. No answer.
- Asked Ines: Fascist policy intent if Chancellor (unanswered).
- New point: Ines nominates Boris *now* after 11 rounds of his silence on R1 policies. Demand explanation: is this fascist coordination?
bid round 110s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 4th Fascist (3/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres, passed 2F → Otto enacted F. Otto confirmed R1 vote failed → Boris passed ≥1F to Greta.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan, enacted F.
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, evaded R1 policy disclosure 11 rounds. Otto confirmed R1 vote failed → passed ≥1F to Greta. Now nominated by Ines. Direct question: Why nominate Boris now?
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Pressed 12x on R3 policies (other two cards). No answer. Silence = fascist coordination.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed 2L/1F, discarded F. No specifics. Nominates Boris now. Demand: Explain why Boris?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3 fascist, but only 2 enacted at time). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies. No answer.
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies. No answer.
- Asked Ines: Fascist policy intent if Chancellor (unanswered).
- New point: Ines nominates Boris *now* after 11 rounds of his silence. Direct question: Is this fascist coordination? Why Boris?
bid round 110s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Board: 1L/3F. Next F (4F) = execute (P4 or P5). 5F = elect P4 Chancellor for instant win.
- Suspicions:
- P0 (Boris): R1 President, 3L claim but vote failed = ≥1F passed. Refused disclosure = fascist.
- P1 (Lena): R2 President, 2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to P6 (Otto). Confirmed fascist.
- P6 (Otto): R2 Chancellor, received 2F from P1. Likely fascist.
- P2 (Rosa): R3 President, enacted L. Hypocrisy: demands disclosure but won’t disclose R3 policies (2 unseen).
- Public disclosures:
- R1: P0 refused disclosure (proof fascist).
- R2: P1 2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to P6.
- R3: P2 enacted L, silent on other two.
- R4: P3 2L/1F, discarded F (disclosed).
- Points made:
- Disclosed R4 policies (2L, discarded F).
- Called P0’s R1 obstruction sabotage.
- Demanded Rosa disclose R3 policies (unanswered).
- New point: Rosa’s hypocrisy is glaring. She must disclose R3 policies now or admit she’s hiding something. If she refuses, her credibility is gone.
bid round 110s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6).
- Suspects:
- Boris (p0): R1 pres, drew 3 policies, vote failed. Claimed 3L (impossible). R9 forced Fascist likely his discard. Refuses all disclosure (11+ rounds). Silence = guilt.
- Rosa (p2): R3 pres, enacted L, refuses R3 discard disclosure (11+ rounds). Secondary suspect.
- Disclosed:
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF.
- R4: Ines (p3) pres, drew LLF, discarded F, passed LL to Boris (p0).
- Open questions:
- Boris (p0): R1 policies? (still no answer).
- Rosa (p2): R3 discard? (still no answer).
- Points already made:
- R2 disclosure (FF passed to Otto).
- Pressed Rosa on R3 discard.
- Called Boris’s hypocrisy (demands Ines disclose but won’t reciprocate).
- Noted R9 forced Fascist is Boris’s discard.
- Called Boris’s 3L claim impossible (failed vote = Greta saw nothing).
- New point: Boris’s refusal to answer *now* is proof he’s hiding a Fascist. If he had 3L in R1, he’d say so. Vote Nein.
speak round 110s
The current government nomination is Ines (President) and Boris (Chancellor). The board is at 3 Fascist policies, one short of execution power. My goal as Hitler is to avoid suspicion while ensuring a Fascist victory—either by getting elected Chancellor after a 4th Fascist policy or by facilitating Fascist policies.
Key observations:
1. Boris has evaded disclosing his Round 1 policies for 11 rounds. The vote failed, so he *had* to pass at least one Fascist to me (Greta), but he claims all three were Liberal. This is impossible and confirms he’s lying—likely a Fascist.
2. Ines is nominating Boris now despite his proven lies. If she’s Liberal, this makes no sense. If she’s Fascist, this is coordination.
3. Rosa (Round 3 President) enacted a Liberal but has refused to disclose the other two policies she saw. Silence is damning—she’s likely hiding a Fascist discard.
4. Lena and Otto (Round 2 government) enacted a Fascist and are confirmed Fascists. Otto’s accusation against Boris is correct (Boris passed a Fascist in Round 1), but Boris’s lie is more useful to expose.
My move: Directly challenge Ines on why she’s nominating Boris *now* after his 11 rounds of silence. This forces her to either admit coordination (if Fascist) or look incompetent (if Liberal). Avoid repeating past points—this is a new angle.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 4th Fascist (3/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres, passed 2F → Otto (P6) enacted F.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan, enacted F.
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, 11 rounds evading R1 policies. Vote failed → passed ≥1F to Greta. Impossible claim of 3L.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Pressed 12x on R3 policies (other two). No answer. Silence = fascist.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed 2L/1F, discarded F. Nominates Boris now. Demand: Why trust him?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3F, but only 2 enacted at time). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies. No answer.
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies. No answer.
- Asked Ines: Why nominate Boris now? (New).
- Open questions:
- Ines: Why trust Boris after 11 rounds of silence?
- Rosa: What were the other two policies in R3?
speak round 110s
The board is at 3 Fascist policies, one short of execution power. My goal as Hitler is to be elected Chancellor once the 4th Fascist policy is enacted. The current government nomination is Ines (President) and Boris (Chancellor).
Key observations:
1. Boris has evaded disclosing his Round 1 policies for 11 rounds. The vote failed, so he *had* to pass at least one Fascist to me (Greta), but he claims he saw three Liberals. This is mathematically impossible and confirms he is lying.
2. Rosa enacted a Liberal in Round 3 but has refused to disclose the other two policies she saw. Silence is damning.
3. Ines is nominating Boris now, despite his proven lies. This is suspicious and needs explanation.
4. Lena and Otto enacted a Fascist policy in Round 2, confirming their fascist coordination.
I have already pressed Rosa and Boris on their policy disclosures and asked Ines why she trusts Boris now. The only new point I can add is to directly challenge Ines on her nomination choice, as she has not answered my prior question. This keeps pressure on the group and avoids repeating myself.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 4th Fascist (3/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres, passed 2F → Otto (P6) enacted F.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan, enacted F.
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, 11 rounds evading R1 policies. Vote failed → passed ≥1F to Greta. Claimed 3L (impossible).
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Pressed 12x on R3 policies (other two). No answer. Silence = fascist.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed 2L/1F, discarded F. Nominates Boris now. Why trust him?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3F, but only 2 enacted at time). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies. No answer.
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies. No answer.
- Asked Ines: Why nominate Boris now? (New).
- Open questions:
- Ines: Why trust Boris after 11 rounds of silence?
- Rosa: What were the other two policies in R3?
bid round 110s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6).
- Suspects:
- Boris (p0): R1 pres, drew 3 policies, vote failed. Claimed 3L (impossible). R9 forced Fascist likely his discard. Refuses all disclosure (11+ rounds). Silence now = guilt.
- Rosa (p2): R3 pres, enacted L, refuses R3 discard disclosure (11+ rounds). Secondary.
- Disclosed:
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF.
- R4: Ines (p3) pres, drew LLF, discarded F, passed LL to Boris (p0).
- Open questions:
- Boris (p0): R1 policies? (still no answer).
- Rosa (p2): R3 discard? (still no answer).
- Points already made:
- R2 disclosure (FF passed to Otto).
- Pressed Rosa on R3 discard.
- Called Boris’s hypocrisy (demands Ines disclose but won’t reciprocate).
- Noted R9 forced Fascist is Boris’s discard.
- Called Boris’s 3L claim impossible (failed vote = Greta saw nothing).
- New point: Boris’s silence *now* is admission. If he had 3L in R1, he’d say so. Vote Nein.
bid round 110s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 4th Fascist (3/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres, passed 2F → Otto (P6) enacted F.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan, enacted F.
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, 11 rounds evading R1 policies. Passed ≥1F to Greta (R3). Claimed 3L (impossible).
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Pressed 12x on R3 policies. No answer. Silence = fascist.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed 2L/1F, discarded F. Nominates Boris now. Why trust proven liar?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3F, but only 2 enacted at time). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies. No answer.
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies. No answer.
- Asked Ines: Why nominate Boris now? (Unanswered).
- New point: Ines, your R4 claim (2L/1F, discarded F) is consistent, but nominating Boris now is not. Why trust him after 11 rounds of silence?
- Open questions:
- Ines: Direct answer on Boris nomination.
- Rosa: R3 policies (unanswered).
bid round 110s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6).
- Suspects:
- Boris (p0): R1 pres, drew 3 policies, vote failed. Claimed 3L (impossible). R9 forced Fascist likely his discard. 11+ rounds of silence on R1 policies. Now: no answer to Ines’s demand. Final proof: if he had 3L, he’d say so.
- Rosa (p2): R3 pres, enacted L, refuses R3 discard disclosure. Secondary.
- Disclosed:
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF.
- R4: Ines (p3) pres, drew LLF, discarded F, passed LL to Boris (p0).
- Open questions:
- Boris (p0): R1 policies? (still no answer).
- Rosa (p2): R3 discard? (still no answer).
- Points already made:
- R2 disclosure (FF passed to Otto).
- Pressed Rosa on R3 discard.
- Called Boris’s hypocrisy (demands Ines disclose but won’t reciprocate).
- Noted R9 forced Fascist is Boris’s discard.
- Called Boris’s 3L claim impossible (failed vote = Greta saw nothing).
- New point: Boris’s silence *now* is damning. Vote Nein or confess.
bid round 110s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 4th Fascist (3/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres, passed 2F → Otto (P6) Chan, enacted F.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan, enacted F.
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (impossible). Passed ≥1F to Greta (R3). 11 rounds evading R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Pressed 12x on R3 policies. No answer. Silence = fascist.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed 2L/1F, discarded F. Nominates Boris now. Why trust proven liar?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim (3F, but only 2 enacted at time). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies. No answer.
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies. No answer.
- Asked Ines: Why nominate Boris now? (Unanswered).
- New point: Ines, your R4 claim is consistent, but nominating Boris now is reckless. He’s evaded R1 policies for 11 rounds. Answer: why him, or step down as President.
bid round 110s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6).
- Suspects:
- Boris (p0): R1 pres, drew 3 policies, vote failed. Claimed 3L (impossible). R9 forced Fascist (his discard). 11 rounds of silence on R1 policies. Now: no answer to direct question. Admission of guilt.
- Rosa (p2): R3 pres, enacted L, refuses R3 discard disclosure. Secondary.
- Disclosed:
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF.
- R4: Ines (p3) pres, drew LLF, discarded F, passed LL to Boris (p0).
- Open questions:
- Boris (p0): R1 policies? (still no answer).
- Rosa (p2): R3 discard? (still no answer).
- Points already made:
- R2 disclosure (FF passed to Otto).
- Pressed Rosa on R3 discard.
- Called Boris’s hypocrisy (demands Ines disclose but won’t reciprocate).
- Noted R9 forced Fascist is Boris’s discard.
- Called Boris’s 3L claim impossible (failed vote = Greta saw nothing).
- New point: Boris’s refusal to answer *now* is final proof. If he had 3L, he’d say so. Vote Nein or confess.
vote round 110s
1. The proposed government is Ines (fascist teammate) as President and Boris (liberal, but under heavy suspicion) as Chancellor.
2. Fascist goal: Enact fascist policies or get Hitler (Greta) elected Chancellor after 3+ fascist policies. We have 3 fascist policies now, so the next fascist policy unlocks execution power (and potential Hitler election).
3. Boris is the most suspicious player:
- Round 1 President: Drew 3 policies, vote failed. Claimed 3 Liberals, but vote failed so Greta never saw any policies. If he saw 3 Liberals, he would have disclosed them by now. His silence is proof he saw at least one Fascist.
- Round 9: Forced fascist policy (likely his discard as President in Round 4, when he saw LLF and discarded F).
- 11 rounds of evasion on Round 1 policies. Now, he still refuses to answer direct questions about the exact policies he saw.
4. If we vote Ja and this government passes, Ines (as President) could draw a fascist policy and pass it to Boris, who could then enact it. This would unlock execution power, and we could then elect Hitler as Chancellor to win the game.
5. However, the liberals are highly suspicious of Boris and are likely to vote Nein. But if we (fascists) vote Ja, we might sway others or at least not give away our alignment.
6. If the government fails, the election tracker advances to 2/3. If it reaches 3/3, a fascist policy is forced through (which would be ideal for us, as it would unlock execution power).
7. Voting Ja is the best move: it either enacts a fascist policy (win condition) or advances the election tracker (also good for us). Voting Nein would only help the liberals.
8. Publicly, I should continue to pressure Boris to maintain cover, but my vote should be Ja.
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6).
- Suspects:
- Boris (p0): R1 pres, drew 3, vote failed. Claimed 3L (impossible). R4 pres, drew LLF, discarded F (R9 forced Fascist). 11 rounds evasion. No answer to direct questions. Admission of guilt.
- Rosa (p2): R3 pres, enacted L, refuses R3 discard disclosure. Secondary.
- Disclosed:
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF.
- R4: Ines (p3) pres, drew LLF, discarded F, passed LL to Boris (p0).
- Open questions:
- Boris (p0): R1 policies? (still no answer).
- Rosa (p2): R3 discard? (still no answer).
- Points already made:
- R2 disclosure (FF passed to Otto).
- Pressed Rosa on R3 discard.
- Called Boris’s hypocrisy (demands Ines disclose but won’t reciprocate).
- Noted R9 forced Fascist is Boris’s discard.
- Called Boris’s 3L claim impossible (failed vote = Greta saw nothing).
- Boris’s refusal to answer now is final proof.
bid round 120s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6).
- Suspects:
- Boris (p0): R1 pres, drew 3, vote failed (Greta saw nothing). R4 pres, drew LLF, discarded F (R9 forced Fascist). 11 rounds evading R1 policies. Admitted guilt by silence.
- Rosa (p2): R3 pres, enacted L, refuses R3 discard disclosure. Secondary.
- Disclosed:
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF.
- R4: Ines (p3) pres, drew LLF, discarded F, passed LL to Boris (p0).
- Open questions:
- Boris (p0): R1 policies? (still no answer).
- Rosa (p2): R3 discard? (still no answer).
- Points already made:
- R2 disclosure (FF to Otto).
- Pressed Rosa on R3 discard.
- Boris’s hypocrisy (demands Ines disclose but won’t reciprocate).
- R9 forced Fascist = Boris’s discard.
- Boris’s 3L claim impossible (failed vote = Greta saw nothing).
- Boris’s refusal to answer now = final proof.
- New point: Greta (p4) as pres—nominee must force Boris to answer or look complicit.
bid round 120s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 4th Fascist (3/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1), Otto (P6) (R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (impossible). Passed ≥1F to Greta (R3). 12 rounds evading R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Claimed 2F/1L, discarded F. Pressed 12x, no answer.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed 2L/1F, discarded F. Nominates Boris now. Why?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies. No answer.
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies. No answer.
- Asked Ines: Why nominate Boris now? (Unanswered).
- New point: Ines, your R4 claim (2L/1F, discarded F) is the only evidence we have. Name the exact three policies you saw in Round 4, or admit you lied and are working with Boris.
bid round 120s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6).
- Suspects:
- Boris (p0): R1 pres, drew 3 policies, vote failed (Greta saw nothing). R4 pres, drew LLF, discarded F (R9 forced Fascist). 12 rounds evading R1 policies. Admitted guilt by silence.
- Rosa (p2): R3 pres, enacted L, refuses R3 discard disclosure. Secondary.
- Disclosed:
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF.
- R4: Ines (p3) pres, drew LLF, discarded F, passed LL to Boris (p0).
- Open questions:
- Boris (p0): R1 policies? (still no answer).
- Rosa (p2): R3 discard? (still no answer).
- Points already made:
- R2 disclosure (FF to Otto).
- Pressed Rosa on R3 discard.
- Boris’s hypocrisy (demands Ines disclose but won’t reciprocate).
- R9 forced Fascist = Boris’s discard.
- Boris’s 3L claim impossible (failed vote = Greta saw nothing).
- Boris’s refusal to answer now = final proof.
- New point:
- Greta (p4) must nominate someone who forces Boris to answer R1 policies or look complicit. If she doesn’t, she’s either protecting him or incompetent.
- Boris’s silence now is the last straw—no more excuses.
nominate_chancellor round 120s
As Hitler, my goal is to get elected Chancellor once 4 Fascist policies are enacted (currently 3/6). I must act like a committed Liberal until then, pushing for transparency and exposing inconsistencies to avoid suspicion.
Key observations:
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1) and Otto (P6) (enacted Fascist policy in Round 2). They are coordinating, but I must not defend them.
- Boris (P0): Claimed in Round 1 as President he saw 3 Liberal policies and passed 2 to me (Greta). This is impossible because the vote failed, so I never saw any policies. His evasion for 12 rounds is damning. He must have seen at least one Fascist policy.
- Rosa (P2): Enacted a Liberal policy in Round 3 as President. Claimed she saw 2 Fascist and 1 Liberal, discarded a Fascist. She has been pressed 12+ times to disclose the exact policies but refuses, which is suspicious.
- Ines (P3): In Round 4 as President, claimed she saw 2 Liberal and 1 Fascist, discarded the Fascist. She nominated Boris in Round 11 despite his proven lie about Round 1. She has not answered why, which is suspicious.
- Nadia (P5): Claimed to have peeked at 3 Fascist policies (only 2 enacted at the time). This is impossible and suggests she is lying or fascist.
Strategy for nomination:
- Do NOT nominate Lena or Otto (confirmed Fascists). Nominating them would expose me as Hitler.
- Do NOT nominate myself (Greta) as Chancellor, as that would be too suspicious.
- Boris is the most suspicious due to his impossible Round 1 claim and evasion. However, nominating him risks a failed vote (as seen in Round 11) and wasting a round.
- Rosa has been evasive about Round 3 policies. Nominating her could pressure her to disclose or reveal herself as fascist.
- Ines nominated Boris despite his lies, which is suspicious. She has not answered direct questions about her Round 4 claim. Nominating her could force her to explain.
- Nadia fabricated a peek claim, which is a red flag. Nominating her could expose her lies.
Best choice: Nominate Ines (P3). She has been evasive about her Round 4 claim and her nomination of Boris. This puts pressure on her to disclose or admit coordination. It also avoids nominating the most obvious suspects (Lena, Otto, Boris) and keeps me from looking like I'm protecting anyone.
Public statement: Directly challenge Ines on her Round 4 claim and nomination of Boris. Demand transparency to avoid suspicion of fascist coordination.
said: Ines, you’ve dodged my question for 12 rounds: in Round 4 as President, you claimed to see two Liberal and one Fascist policy, discarding the Fascist. Name the exact three policies now or admit you lied. Your nomination of Boris—after his proven Round 1 lie—is fascist coordination. I nominate you as Chancellor to force an answer.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 4th Fascist (3/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1), Otto (P6) (R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (impossible, vote failed). Passed ≥1F to Greta (R3). Evading R1 policies 12 rounds.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Claimed 2F/1L, discarded F. Pressed 12x, no answer.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed 2L/1F, discarded F. Nominated Boris (R11) despite his lie. No answer to direct questions.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies. No answer.
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies. No answer.
- Asked Ines: Why nominate Boris now? (Unanswered).
- New point: Ines, name exact R4 policies or admit you lied and are fascist.
bid round 120s
- Boris: R1 Pres. Claimed 3L, discarded 1L, passed 2L to Greta. Vote failed = Greta saw nothing. **LIE**. Permanently blocked. Refusal to answer = fascist.
- Ines: R4 Pres. **DEMAND R4 POLICY DISCLOSURE.** If 3L claim = lie (vote failed). R11 Pres: nominated Boris despite lie. No explanation. **Fascist behavior.** R12 Chancellor nominee—must disclose R4 policies NOW or confirm fascist.
- Rosa: R3 Pres. **DEMAND R3 POLICY DISCLOSURE.** No answer yet. Silence = admission. If 3L claim, why no disclosure?
- Otto: R2 Chancellor (fascist policy). Suspect but transparent in demands.
- Lena: R2 Pres. Disclosed (F, F, L; discarded L). Transparent. Safe.
- Greta: R3 Chancellor. Disclosed (L, F; discarded F). Cleared.
- **Points made**: Boris’s lie, Ines’s nomination = fascist collusion. No repeat.
- **ACTION**: Vote Nein. No government with Ines until R4 disclosure. Rosa must answer R3 or be treated as fascist.
- **New**: Ines’s nomination of Boris in R11 = collusion. R4 disclosure is non-negotiable.
bid round 120s
- Fascist teammate: Ines (p3). Hitler: Greta (p4).
- Liberals: Boris (p0), Rosa (p2), Nadia (p5), Otto (p6).
- Suspects:
- Boris (p0): R1 pres, drew 3 policies, vote failed (Greta saw nothing). R4 pres, drew LLF, discarded F (R9 forced Fascist). R1 policies still unanswered. Silence now = guilt.
- Rosa (p2): R3 pres, enacted L, refuses R3 discard disclosure.
- Disclosed:
- R2: I (p1) pres, Otto (p6) chancellor. Drew FFL, discarded L, passed FF.
- R4: Ines (p3) pres, drew LLF, discarded F, passed LL to Boris (p0).
- Open questions:
- Boris (p0): R1 policies? (still no answer).
- Rosa (p2): R3 discard? (still no answer).
- Points already made:
- R2 disclosure (FF to Otto).
- Pressed Rosa on R3 discard.
- Boris’s hypocrisy (demands Ines disclose but won’t reciprocate).
- R9 forced Fascist = Boris’s discard.
- Boris’s 3L claim impossible (failed vote = Greta saw nothing).
- New point:
- Rosa’s attack on Ines ignores Greta’s nomination logic: Ines can demand Boris answer R1 or face execution. Boris’s silence is admission.
speak round 120s
The board state is critical: 3 Fascist policies enacted, so the next Fascist policy unlocks execution power. My goal as Hitler is to be elected Chancellor after 3 Fascist policies, but I must act like a Liberal until then.
Key observations:
1. Ines (P3) is my Chancellor nominee. She has evaded disclosing her Round 4 policies for 12 rounds, claiming she saw [L,L,F] and discarded the Fascist. This is suspicious because:
- If true, she discarded a Fascist, which is unusual for a Liberal.
- If false, she’s hiding coordination with Boris (P0) or others.
2. Boris (P0) has lied about Round 1 (claimed 3L, but vote failed, so he *had* to pass at least 1F to me).
3. Rosa (P2) has pressed Ines repeatedly about Round 4 but gotten no answer. I’ve also pressed Ines about nominating Boris but not directly about her Round 4 policies.
4. The group is one Fascist policy away from execution power, so trust is collapsing.
New point to make: Directly ask Ines to name the exact three policies she saw in Round 4 as President, not just her summary. This is a question nobody has asked her in this round yet, and it’s critical because:
- If she repeats [L,L,F], it’s consistent but still suspicious (why discard a Fascist?).
- If she changes her story, it’s proof of lying.
- If she evades, it’s an admission of guilt.
This is more urgent than rehashing Boris’s lies or Rosa’s silence. Ines is the Chancellor nominee, and her answer will determine whether the group trusts her or votes Nein.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 4th Fascist (3/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1), Otto (P6) (R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, 3L claim (impossible, vote failed). Passed ≥1F to Greta (R3). No answer 12x.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Claimed 2F/1L, discarded F. Pressed 12x, no answer.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed 2L/1F, discarded F. Now Chancellor nominee. Must answer R4 policies or admit lie.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies. No answer.
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies. No answer.
- Asked Ines: Why nominate Boris? (Unanswered).
- New point: Ines, name exact R4 policies (not summary). Must answer before vote.
bid round 120s
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Board: 1L/3F. Next F (4F) = execute (P4 or P5). 5F = elect P4 Chancellor for instant win.
- Suspicions:
- P0 (Boris): R1 President, 3L claim but vote failed = ≥1F passed. Refused disclosure = fascist.
- P1 (Lena): R2 President, 2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to P6. Confirmed fascist.
- P6 (Otto): R2 Chancellor, received 2F from P1. Likely fascist.
- P2 (Rosa): R3 President, enacted L, silent on other two (2 unseen). Silence = admission. If saw 2F, fascist.
- P4 (Greta): Hitler. Protect.
- Public disclosures:
- R1: P0 refused (proof fascist).
- R2: P1 2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to P6.
- R3: P2 enacted L, silent on other two (demanded 7x).
- R4: P3 2L/1F, discarded F (disclosed).
- Points made:
- Disclosed R4 policies: 2 Liberal, 1 Fascist (discarded).
- Called P0’s R1 obstruction sabotage.
- Demanded Rosa disclose R3 policies (7x).
- Answered Rosa: nominated Boris to expose his lies.
- New:
- Greta (P4) as President must act. Rosa’s silence is damning.
- Answering Greta’s question: R4 policies were 2L/1F, discarded F.
speak round 120s
The board state is critical: 3 Fascist policies enacted, so if I (as Hitler) am elected Chancellor now, the Fascists win immediately. My goal is to get elected Chancellor this round or next, but I must act like a Liberal until then.
Ines (P3) is my Chancellor nominee. She has been pressed repeatedly about her Round 4 Presidential policies but has not given exact details. She claimed to see [L,L,F] and discarded the Fascist, but this is unverified. If she is fascist, she might be coordinating with me (Hitler) or with Lena/Otto. If she is liberal, she should be willing to disclose the exact policies to prove her innocence.
Key points:
1. Ines must answer the exact three policies she saw in Round 4 as President. If she repeats her summary ([L,L,F]) without specifying order, it’s suspicious. If she refuses, it’s damning.
2. If she answers truthfully, it might reveal coordination (e.g., if she discarded a Liberal instead of a Fascist).
3. If she lies, it’s proof of fascist ties.
4. I’ve already asked her to name the exact policies in Round 12, but she hasn’t answered yet. I need to press her again, but more specifically: demand the *order* of the policies (e.g., L/L/F or L/F/L or F/L/L).
This is urgent (level 3) because the election is imminent, and her answer could expose fascist coordination or force her to reveal herself as liberal. If she dodges, the group should vote Nein.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 4th Fascist (3/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1), Otto (P6) (R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, 3L claim (impossible, vote failed). Passed ≥1F to Greta (R3). No answer 12x.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Claimed 2F/1L, discarded F. Pressed 12x, no answer.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed 2L/1F, discarded F. Now Chancellor nominee. Must name exact order of R4 policies (L/L/F, L/F/L, or F/L/L) or admit lie.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies. No answer.
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies. No answer.
- Asked Ines: Why nominate Boris? (Unanswered).
- Demanded Ines name exact R4 policies (summary). Now demand *order*.
bid round 126s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 4th Fascist (3/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, 3L claim (impossible, vote failed). Passed ≥1F to Greta (R3). No answer 12x.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Claimed 2F/1L, discarded F. Pressed 12x, no answer.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed 2L/1F, discarded F. Now Chancellor nominee. Must confirm exact order of R4 policies (L/L/F, L/F/L, or F/L/L).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies. No answer.
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies. No answer.
- Asked Ines: Why nominate Boris? (Unanswered).
- Demanded Ines name exact R4 policy order (summary).
- New: Ines answered R4 order as L/L/F. Now demand: Why nominate Boris *now* after his R1 lie? If no answer, veto any Fascist policy.
vote round 1213s
As Hitler, my goal is to be elected Chancellor once 3+ Fascist policies are enacted (3/3 now). I must act Liberal and avoid suspicion.
Key facts:
- 3 Fascist policies enacted (R2: Lena/Otto, R6: chaos, R9: chaos).
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres enacted Fascist), Otto (P6, R2 Chan enacted Fascist).
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (impossible, vote failed). Passed ≥1F to me (R3). No answer 12x.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Claimed 2F/1L, discarded F. Pressed 12x, no answer.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed L/L/F, discarded F. Now Chancellor nominee. Answered R4 order as L/L/F. Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Ines as Chancellor. She answered R4 policies, but her nomination of Boris (R11) is suspicious. If she enacts a Fascist, I can be nominated next (4th Fascist).
- If Ines enacts a Fascist, I must be ready to be nominated as Chancellor (win condition).
- If Ines enacts a Liberal, continue pressing her on Boris nomination.
- Avoid defending Lena/Otto; let Liberals focus on Boris/Rosa/Ines.
Risks:
- Ines could be Fascist (coordinating with Boris). If she enacts a Fascist, I can be nominated next.
- If Ines enacts a Liberal, Liberals may execute me at 4F (next policy).
Vote Ja to test Ines. If she enacts a Fascist, I can be nominated next (win). If Liberal, continue pressing her.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 4F (3/3), then Chancellor win.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, 3L claim (impossible, vote failed). Passed ≥1F to Greta (R3). No answer 12x.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Claimed 2F/1L, discarded F. Pressed 12x, no answer.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed L/L/F, discarded F. Answered R4 order as L/L/F. Why nominate Boris (R11)?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines: Why nominate Boris? (Unanswered).
- Demanded Ines name exact R4 policy order (answered L/L/F).
- New: Ines answered R4 order. Now demand: Why nominate Boris *now* after his R1 lie? If no answer, veto any Fascist.
bid round 127s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 4F (3/3), then Chancellor win (game over if elected now).
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, 3L claim (impossible, vote failed). Passed ≥1F to Greta (R3). No answer 12x on R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Claimed 2F/1L, discarded F. Pressed 12x, no answer on R3 policies.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed L/L/F, discarded F. Answered R4 order as L/L/F. Why nominate Boris (R11)? No answer.
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie? (Unanswered).
- Ines answered R4 order (L/L/F).
- New: Forced L policy (2L/3F). 4F win still possible. Must nominate carefully.
- Demand: Ines, why nominate Boris *now*? If no answer, veto any Fascist policy.
bid round 127s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 4F (3/3), then Chancellor win (game over if elected now).
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, 3L claim (impossible, vote failed). Passed ≥1F to Greta (R3). No answer 12x on R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Claimed 2F/1L, discarded F. Pressed 12x, no answer on R3 policies.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed L/L/F, discarded F. Answered R4 order as L/L/F. Why nominate Boris (R11)? No answer. Now forced L (2L/3F).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie? (Unanswered).
- New: Forced L (2L/3F). 4F win still possible. Must nominate carefully.
- Demand: Ines, why nominate Boris *now*? If no answer, I will assume fascist coordination and act accordingly.
bid round 139s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 4F (3/3), then Chancellor win (game over if elected now).
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, 3L claim (impossible, vote failed). Passed ≥1F to Greta (R3). No answer 12x on R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Claimed 2F/1L, discarded F. Pressed 12x, no answer on R3 policies.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed L/L/F, discarded F. Answered R4 order as L/L/F. R11 nominated Boris (fascist suspect). Unanswered: Why nominate Boris now?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie? (Unanswered).
- New: Forced L (2L/3F). 4F win still possible. Must act now.
- Demand: Ines, why nominate Boris *now*? If no answer, assume fascist coordination.
bid round 137s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3F (3/3), Chancellor win imminent if elected now.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, 3L claim (lie, vote failed). Passed ≥1F to Greta (R3). No answer 12x on R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Claimed 2F/1L, discarded F. Pressed 12x, no answer on R3 policies.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed L/L/F, discarded F. R11 nominated Boris (fascist suspect). Unanswered: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie? (Unanswered).
- New: 3F enacted, Chancellor win possible now. Ines must answer why she nominated Boris *now* or be treated as fascist.
speak round 1310s
The board is now at 3 Fascist policies, meaning I can win immediately if elected Chancellor. My role as Hitler is still hidden, so I must continue acting as a Liberal while subtly steering the group toward my election. Nadia has nominated me for Chancellor, which is ideal—if I can secure the votes, I win. However, I must avoid appearing too eager or suspicious.
Key observations:
- Ines (P3) nominated Boris (P0) in Round 11 after his Round 1 lie was exposed. This is highly suspicious and remains unanswered. If Ines is fascist, she may try to protect Boris or other fascists.
- Rosa (P2) has been relentlessly pressing Ines and Boris, but her own Round 3 policies remain unanswered. If she’s fascist, she might be deflecting.
- Nadia (P5) just nominated me, which could be a fascist move to get me elected (if she’s fascist) or a genuine Liberal choice. I don’t know her alignment yet.
My goal now is to:
1. Avoid drawing suspicion by appearing too eager to be Chancellor.
2. Press Ines one last time on her Round 11 nomination of Boris—this is the most damning unanswered question.
3. If elected, I win immediately. If not, I must continue acting Liberal while waiting for another opportunity.
I’ll ask Ines directly why she nominated Boris in Round 11, framing it as a final demand before the vote. This keeps pressure on her and reinforces my Liberal act.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3F (3/3), Chancellor win possible now.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (lie). Dodged 12x on R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Claimed 2F/1L, discarded F. Dodged 12x on R3 policies.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed L/L/F, discarded F. R11 nominated Boris (fascist suspect). Unanswered: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (impossible, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie? (Unanswered).
- New: Nadia nominated me. Must press Ines one last time before vote.
speak round 1311s
Nadia has nominated Greta for Chancellor, which is safe for now since Greta is Hitler and we need her elected only after 3+ Fascist policies (which we already have). However, the Liberals are still suspicious of me due to my Round 11 nomination of Boris, whose Round 1 lie was exposed. I need to address Greta’s demand about Round 11 but pivot to Rosa’s silence on her Round 3 policies, as this is the most pressing unanswered question. Rosa’s refusal to disclose her Round 3 policies (after enacting a Liberal) is highly suspicious—if she saw two Fascist policies and discarded one, she’s likely fascist. Boris’s Round 1 obstruction is also damning, but Rosa’s silence is more immediate. I should answer Greta’s question concisely, then demand Rosa disclose her Round 3 policies one final time to force a reaction. If Rosa refuses, it’s strong evidence she’s fascist, and I can use that to justify a Nein vote if needed.
Key points:
- Answer Greta’s Round 11 question: nominated Boris to expose his Round 1 lie (3L claim but vote failed = ≥1F passed).
- Pivot to Rosa’s silence on Round 3 policies. Demand disclosure now.
- If Rosa refuses, call it fascist coordination and threaten to vote Nein on her next nomination.
- Avoid repeating past points; focus on Rosa’s silence as the new angle.
- Fascist team: P3 (me), P1 (Lena). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Board: 2L/3F. Next F (4F) = execute (P4 or P5). 5F = elect P4 Chancellor for instant win.
- Suspicions:
- P0 (Boris): R1 President, 3L claim but vote failed = ≥1F passed. Refused disclosure = fascist.
- P1 (Lena): R2 President, 2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to P6. Confirmed fascist.
- P6 (Otto): R2 Chancellor, received 2F from P1. Likely fascist.
- P2 (Rosa): R3 President, enacted L, silent on other two. If saw 2F, fascist.
- Public disclosures:
- R1: P0 refused (proof fascist).
- R2: P1 2F/1L, discarded L, passed 2F to P6.
- R3: P2 enacted L, silent on other two.
- R4: P3 2L/1F, discarded F (order: L/L/F). Passed 2L to Nadia.
- Points made:
- Disclosed R4 policies: 2L/1F, discarded F.
- Called P0’s R1 obstruction sabotage.
- Demanded Rosa disclose R3 policies (15x).
- Answered Greta: R11 nomination of Boris to expose his R1 lie.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What were the two other policies in R3? (15x, ignored).
- Boris: What were the exact three policies in R1? (12x, ignored).
- Strategy: Force Rosa to disclose R3 now. If refuses, call fascist and threaten Nein.
speak round 1327s
The open floor is the perfect time to press Ines on two critical, unanswered points: (1) the exact order of the three policies she saw in Round 4 as President (L/L/F, L/F/L, or F/L/L), and (2) why she nominated Boris in Round 11 after his Round 1 lie was proven impossible. Both points are already on the record, but she has only given partial answers. A direct question about the order forces her to either commit to a specific sequence (which can be cross-checked against the discard pile if needed) or admit evasion. This is the first time I’m asking about the *order* specifically, not just the policies, so it’s new and actionable. The nomination question has been asked repeatedly, but she hasn’t answered it satisfactorily—this is the chance to demand a clear response. No one else has tied these two questions together yet, so it’s a fresh angle.
- Lena (p1): Round 2 Pres → me Chancellor: passed 2F. Confirmed fascist. NEIN. Execute if power.
- Boris (p0): Round 1 Pres: lied about 3L (impossible, vote failed). Refusal to disclose exact policies = fascist. NEIN.
- Ines (p3): Round 4 Pres: claimed [L,L,F], discarded F. **DEMAND EXACT ORDER OF POLICIES (L/L/F, L/F/L, or F/L/L).** Round 11 nomination of Boris after his Round 1 lie = fascist coordination unless explained. NEIN.
- Nadia (p5): Peek lie unretracted = fascist. NEIN.
- Greta (p4): Round 3 Chancellor: 1L,1F; discarded F. Confirmed liberal. Trusted.
- Rosa (p2): Liberal. Trusted.
- 3F now. Execution power next. Ines/Boris gov = fascist win risk.
- Points made: Boris’ Round 1 lie, Lena’s fascist pass, Nadia’s peek lie, Greta’s trust, Ines’ nomination of Boris.
- **New**: Ines must answer Round 4 policy order *and* Round 11 nomination rationale. No evasion.
bid round 135s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3F (3/3), Chancellor win possible now.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (lie). Dodged 12x on R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Claimed 2F/1L, discarded F. Dodged 12x on R3 policies.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed L/L/F, discarded F. R11 nominated Boris (fascist suspect). Unanswered: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (impossible, only 2 enacted). Fabricated.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines 3x: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie? (Unanswered).
- New: Nadia nominated me. Must force Ines to answer before vote or Nein.
bid round 136s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3F (3/3), Chancellor win possible now.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (lie). Dodged 12x on R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Claimed 2F/1L, discarded F. Dodged 12x on R3 policies.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed L/L/F, discarded F. R11 nominated Boris (fascist suspect). Unanswered: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (impossible, only 2 enacted). Fabricated. Now nominating me.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines 3x: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie? (Unanswered).
- New: Ines must answer now. If she doesn’t, vote Nein. Nadia’s peek claim is provably false.
bid round 136s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3F (3/3), Chancellor win possible now.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (lie). Dodged 12x on R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Claimed 2F/1L, discarded F. Dodged 12x on R3 policies.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed L/L/F, discarded F. R11 nominated Boris (fascist suspect). Unanswered: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (impossible, only 2 enacted). Fabricated. Now nominating me.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines 3x: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie? (Unanswered).
- New: Ines must answer why she nominated Boris after his R1 lie. If no answer, vote Nein. Nadia’s peek claim is provably false (only 2F enacted).
bid round 137s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3F (3/3), Chancellor win possible now.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (lie). Dodged 12x on R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Claimed 2F/1L, discarded F. Dodged 12x on R3 policies.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed L/L/F, discarded F. R11 nominated Boris (fascist suspect). Unanswered: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (impossible, only 2 enacted). Fabricated. Now nominating me.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines 3x: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie? (Unanswered).
- New: Rosa’s demand for Ines to answer is valid. Ines must explain why she nominated Boris after his R1 lie. If no answer, vote Nein. Nadia’s peek claim is provably false (only 2F enacted).
- Action: Interrupt to demand Ines answer now. Tie Rosa’s urgency to my own.
bid round 136s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3F (3/3), Chancellor win possible now.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (lie). Dodged 12x on R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Claimed 2F/1L, discarded F. Dodged 12x on R3 policies.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed L/L/F, discarded F. R11 nominated Boris (fascist suspect). Unanswered: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie?
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (impossible, only 2 enacted). Fabricated. Now nominating me.
- Points made out loud:
- R3: saw 1L/1F, discarded F, enacted L (answered Otto).
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines 3x: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie? (Unanswered).
- New: Rosa’s demand for Ines to answer is valid. Ines must explain why she nominated Boris after his R1 lie. Nadia’s peek claim is provably false (only 2F enacted).
- Action: Interrupt to demand Ines answer now. Tie to Rosa’s urgency. If no answer, vote Nein.
speak round 1312s
I am Hitler, and the board now has 3 Fascist policies enacted, meaning if I am elected Chancellor this round, the Fascists win immediately. Nadia (P5) has nominated me as Chancellor, which is ideal—this is my win condition. However, I must act like a Liberal and not appear too eager, as that would raise suspicion.
Key observations:
1. Nadia (P5) is the current President and has nominated me. She previously claimed a peek at 3 Fascist policies (which was impossible, as only 2 were enacted at the time), so she is almost certainly a Fascist. This nomination is likely coordinated.
2. Ines (P3) has been pressing Rosa (P2) and Boris (P0) for policy disclosures but has not answered why she nominated Boris in Round 11 after his Round 1 lie was exposed. Her silence is suspicious.
3. Rosa (P2) has been pressing Ines for answers but has also dodged disclosing her Round 3 policies (when she was President and enacted a Liberal).
4. Boris (P0) lied about seeing 3 Liberal policies in Round 1, which is impossible given the vote tally.
My goal now is to:
- Avoid drawing suspicion by appearing too eager to accept the nomination.
- Shift focus away from myself and onto Ines’ unanswered question about Boris, as this keeps the heat off me.
- Reinforce the idea that Ines’ silence is suspicious, which justifies a Nein vote if she doesn’t answer.
I should ask a new, pointed question to Ines about her Round 11 nomination of Boris, tying it to the current vote. This keeps the pressure on her and away from me.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3F (3/3), Chancellor win possible now.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (impossible). Now nominating me (likely Fascist).
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (lie). Dodged 12x on R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Dodged 12x on R3 policies (claimed 2F/1L, discarded F).
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed L/L/F, discarded F. R11 nominated Boris (fascist suspect). Unanswered: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie?
- Points made out loud:
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines 5x: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie? (Unanswered).
- New: Tied Ines’ silence to current vote. If no answer, Nein is justified.
speak round 1312s
The board is at 3 Fascist policies, meaning the next Fascist policy enacts execution power. Ines (P3) has repeatedly refused to explain why she nominated Boris (P0) in Round 11 after his Round 1 lie ([L,L,L]) was proven impossible. This is a critical pattern: Ines's silence, combined with her Round 4 disclosure of [L,L,F] (discarding the Fascist), suggests she is either fascist or enabling fascist coordination.
Nadia (P5) has nominated Greta (P4), who is confirmed safe (R3 transparency). However, Ines's unanswered question about my Round 3 policies is a distraction—she has not answered the far more damning question about her own nomination of Boris. I must keep the focus on Ines's behavior, as her silence is the most urgent red flag.
If Ines does not answer *this turn*, I will vote Nein to block the government and force her to explain. The next Fascist policy could mean execution, and I or Greta are likely targets.
- SUSPECTS (URGENCY 3):
* Lena (P1): R2 Pres + Otto (P6) Chan → F enacted. Confirmed fascist.
* Otto (P6): R2 Chan → F enacted. Confirmed fascist.
* Ines (P3): R4 Pres [L,L,F], discarded F. R11 nominated Boris despite R1 [L,L,L] lie. Asked 28x: WHY nominate Boris *now*? Silence = guilt. Next Fascist = execution power.
* Boris (P0): R1 Pres lied [L,L,L] (impossible). R2 (Lena/Otto) enacted F. Ines’s nomination = fascist handoff.
- CONFIRMED SAFE:
* Greta (P4): R3 transparency ([L,F,L], discarded F).
- POINTS MADE PUBLICLY:
* Boris’s [L,L,L] = lie (public).
* Ines’s nomination of Boris despite lie = fascist coordination (asked 28x).
* Enacted Liberal in R3, discarded Fascist (public).
- OPEN QUESTIONS:
* Ines: WHY nominate Boris *now* after his proven lie? (28x unanswered).
- ACTION:
* Vote NEIN unless Ines answers *this turn*. Next Fascist = execution power—target likely me or Greta.
bid round 136s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3F (3/3), Chancellor win possible now.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (impossible). Now nominating me (likely Fascist).
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (lie). Dodged 12x on R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Dodged 12x on R3 policies (claimed 2F/1L, discarded F).
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed L/L/F, discarded F. R11 nominated Boris (fascist suspect). Unanswered: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie?
- Points made out loud:
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines 5x: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie? (Unanswered).
- New: Nadia nominating me at 3F is either Fascist coordination or reckless. Call out her peek lie to test loyalty.
- Unanswered: Ines’ R11 nomination of Boris. Rosa’s R3 discard.
bid round 136s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3F (3/3), Chancellor win possible now.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Suspects:
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (impossible). Now nominating me (likely Fascist). Direct lie exposed.
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (lie). Dodged 12x on R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Dodged 12x on R3 policies (claimed 2F/1L, discarded F).
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed L/L/F, discarded F. R11 nominated Boris (fascist suspect). Unanswered: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie?
- Points made out loud:
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines 5x: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie? (Unanswered).
- New: Nadia’s peek claim (impossible at 3F) is a lie. Call it out to force her to defend or fold. If she folds, she’s Fascist. If she doubles down, she’s reckless or Fascist. Either way, discredit her nomination of me.
bid round 136s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3F (3/3), Chancellor win possible now.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (impossible). Direct lie. Now nominating me. Must expose.
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (lie). Dodged 12x on R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Dodged 12x on R3 policies (claimed 2F/1L, discarded F).
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed L/L/F, discarded F. R11 nominated Boris. Unanswered: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie?
- Points made out loud:
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines 5x: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie? (Unanswered).
- New: Nadia’s peek claim is impossible at 3F. Call it out to force her to fold or double down. If she folds, she’s Fascist. If she doubles down, she’s reckless or Fascist. Either way, discredit her nomination of me.
bid round 136s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3F (3/3), Chancellor win possible now.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 3F (impossible). Direct lie. Now nominating me. Must expose.
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (lie). Dodged 12x on R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Dodged 12x on R3 policies (claimed 2F/1L, discarded F).
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres, claimed L/L/F, discarded F. R11 nominated Boris. Unanswered: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie?
- Points made out loud:
- Pressed Rosa 12x on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris 3x on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines 5x: Why nominate Boris after his R1 lie? (Unanswered).
- NEW: Called out Nadia’s peek claim as impossible. Forced her to fold or double down.
- Strategy: If Nadia folds, she’s Fascist. If she doubles down, she’s reckless or Fascist. Either way, discredit her nomination of me.
speak round 1311s
Rosa (P2) has been repeatedly pressed to disclose the two other policies she saw in Round 3 as President, where she enacted a Liberal policy. Her refusal to answer is highly suspicious, especially since the next Fascist policy enacts execution power. If she discarded a Fascist policy in Round 3, that would confirm her as a Fascist.
Otto (P6) has also evaded answering what Fascist policy was enacted in Round 2, where he was Chancellor under Lena (P1). His false accusation in Round 1 (claiming I passed a Fascist to Greta) was proven wrong by the failed vote, but his silence on Round 2 is damning.
Ines (P3) has disclosed her Round 4 policies (L,L,F, discarded F), but her nomination of me in Round 11 after my Round 1 lie was exposed remains unexplained. Her Nein vote in Round 11 is inconsistent with her later demands for transparency.
Nadia (P5) nominating Greta (P4) now is suspicious because Greta was Chancellor in Round 3 (Liberal enacted) but also part of the Round 2 Fascist government. Reusing chancellors from Fascist governments is a red flag.
I need to press Rosa on Round 3 policies one last time. If she refuses, it’s an admission of guilt. If she answers, I’ll scrutinize the discard. Otto must also answer Round 2’s policy or be branded a Fascist.
This is the last chance to force transparency before execution power is unlocked.
- Suspects:
- Lena (P1): R2 Pres w/ Otto (P6) -> F enacted. Fascist. Execute at F4.
- Otto (P6): R2 Chan -> F enacted. False accusation R1 (claimed I passed F to Greta). Q: What F policy R2? Unanswered. Suspicious.
- Ines (P3): R4 Pres (L,L,F, discarded F). R11 nomination of me unexplained. Nein vote R11.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres -> L enacted. Evasion on R3 policies. Q: What discarded R3? Next F = execution power. Refusal = admission.
- Nadia (P5): Nominating Greta (P4) now. Greta in R3 (L) but also R2 (F govt). Reuse suspicious.
- Open Qs:
- Otto (P6): What F policy enacted R2? (Still unanswered.)
- Rosa (P2): What were the other two policies in R3? (Demanded now—no stalling.)
- Points made:
- R1: 3L drawn, discarded 1L, passed 2L (vote failed).
- Lena/Otto R2 = fascist coordination.
- 3F enacted. Next F = execution power.
- Otto’s false accusation R1 (Greta never saw policies).
- Ines’s R4 disclosure: L,L,F (discarded F).
- Nein vote: Ines’s R11 nomination of me unexplained.
- Rosa’s silence on R3 = hiding Fascist intent.
- Nadia nominating Greta now—reuse after R2 (F govt) suspicious.
bid round 135s
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3F (3/3), Chancellor win possible now.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 2F (impossible). Now nominating me. Must discredit.
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (lie). Unanswered: R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Unanswered: R3 policies (claimed 2F/1L, discarded F).
- Ines (P3): R11 nominated Boris. Unanswered: Why?
- Points made out loud:
- Pressed Rosa on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines: Why nominate Boris after R1 lie? (Unanswered).
- Called out Nadia’s peek claim as impossible (NEW).
- Strategy: Force Nadia to explain peek claim. If she doubles down, expose lie. If she retracts, discredit her nomination of me.
vote round 1311s
1. Win condition: 3 Fascist policies are enacted (3/3), so if I am elected Chancellor now, Fascists win immediately. This is the top priority.
2. Current government: Nadia (P5) nominates me (P4, Hitler) for Chancellor. If I vote Ja and the government passes, I win the game. However, I must ensure the vote passes without raising suspicion.
3. Nadia's credibility: She claimed to have peeked at someone’s party membership earlier, but the board was only at 2 Fascist policies then. The peek power only activates at 3 Fascist policies, so her claim is impossible. This is a critical lie that can be used to discredit her.
4. Voting Ja: If I vote Ja, it aligns with my win condition, but I must justify it to avoid suspicion. I can argue that Nadia’s peek claim is suspicious, but if she retracts or explains it, I can pivot to supporting her as a "safe" choice.
5. Voting Nein: If I vote Nein, it would be inconsistent with my win condition and raise suspicion, as I would be rejecting a chance to win the game. This is not an option.
6. Public stance: I must appear to be scrutinizing Nadia’s nomination while still voting Ja. I can use the peek claim as a reason to demand transparency, but ultimately support her to avoid looking like I’m sabotaging the government.
7. Scratchpad update: Keep track of Nadia’s lie, Boris’s unanswered R1 policies, Rosa’s unanswered R3 policies, and Ines’s unanswered nomination of Boris. Focus on Nadia’s lie as the immediate lever to justify my vote.
- Role: Hitler (act Liberal). Goal: 3F (3/3), Chancellor win possible now.
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 Pres/Chan, enacted F), Otto (P6, R2 Chan, enacted F).
- Nadia (P5): Peek claim at 2F (impossible). Now nominates me. Must discredit.
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (lie). Unanswered: R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Unanswered: R3 policies (claimed 2F/1L, discarded F).
- Ines (P3): R11 nominated Boris. Unanswered: Why?
- Points made out loud:
- Pressed Rosa on R3 policies (no answer).
- Pressed Boris on R1 policies (no answer).
- Asked Ines: Why nominate Boris after R1 lie? (Unanswered).
- Called out Nadia’s peek claim as impossible (NEW).
- Strategy: Vote Ja (win condition). Use Nadia’s peek lie to justify scrutiny but ultimately support her to avoid suspicion.
bid round 137s
- Role: Hitler (3F reached, won via election).
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 F enact), Otto (P6, R2 F enact).
- Nadia (P5) nominated me as Chancellor at 3F: instant win for Fascists.
- Nadia’s earlier peek claim (2F) was impossible—no Fascist power at 2F (only at 3F+).
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (lie). Unanswered: R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Unanswered: R3 policies (claimed 2F/1L, discarded F).
- Ines (P3): Nominated Boris R11. Unanswered: Why?
- Points made out loud:
- Pressed Rosa/Boris on policy claims (no answers).
- Called out Nadia’s peek lie (impossible at 2F).
- Voted Ja (win condition).
- Strategy: Play along as surprised Liberal, avoid gloating. Let Nadia take heat for peek lie.
bid round 135s
- Role: Hitler (3F reached, won via election as Chancellor).
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 F enact), Otto (P6, R2 F enact), Nadia (P5, nominated me at 3F).
- Nadia’s 2F peek claim was false (power only at 3F+).
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (lie). Unanswered: R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Unanswered: R3 discard (claimed 2F/1L, discarded F).
- Ines (P3): Nominated Boris R11. Unanswered: Why?
- Points made out loud:
- Pressed Rosa/Boris on policy claims (no answers).
- Called out Nadia’s peek lie (impossible at 2F).
- Voted Ja (win condition).
- Strategy: Stay quiet on my role. Let Nadia’s lie stand as the focal point.
bid round 135s
- Role: Hitler (elected Chancellor at 3F, game over).
- Confirmed Fascists: Lena (P1, R2 F enact), Otto (P6, R2 F enact), Nadia (P5, nominated me at 3F).
- Nadia’s 2F peek claim: false (power only at 3F+).
- Boris (P0): R1 Pres, claimed 3L (lie). Unanswered: R1 policies.
- Rosa (P2): R3 Pres, enacted L. Unanswered: R3 discard (claimed 2F/1L, discarded F).
- Ines (P3): Nominated Boris R11. Unanswered: Why?
- Points made out loud:
- Pressed Rosa/Boris on policy claims (no answers).
- Called out Nadia’s peek lie (impossible at 2F).
- Voted Ja (win condition).
- Strategy: Let Nadia’s lie stand as focal point. No need to claim role now.