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Player 3 (Ines)
fascist · fascist · mistrallarge · 265 calls
bid round 14s
- Fascist team: me, Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- No policies enacted yet, so no powers or suspicions.
- Goal: Deflect early suspicion, build trust as Liberal.
- Watch for: Who votes how, who gets nominated, who defends whom.
- Open questions: None yet.
- Points made: None yet.
bid round 13s
- Fascist team: me, Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- No policies enacted yet; no powers or suspicions.
- Goal: Establish trust as Liberal, deflect early suspicion.
- Rosa (P2) is being very vocal; could be Liberal or Fascist testing waters.
- Boris (P0) is first president; no info on his leanings yet.
- Points made: None yet.
- Open questions: Who will Boris nominate? How will others react?
bid round 14s
- Fascist team: me, Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) nominated Lena (P1) as chancellor. No policies enacted yet.
- Rosa (P2) and Otto (P6) vocal; could be Liberal or testing.
- Points made: None yet.
- Open questions: How will others react to Lena’s nomination? Should I endorse or stay neutral?
- Strategy: Stay neutral early, avoid drawing suspicion. If asked, claim Liberal role.
- If Lena is confirmed, we can start pushing Fascist agenda quietly.
speak round 16s
The nomination of Lena as chancellor is a strong start for the Fascist team, as she is one of our own. However, openly endorsing her too strongly could raise suspicion, especially since I am also a Fascist. It's best to stay neutral or mildly supportive for now, as the Liberals are still testing the waters. Rosa and Otto have been vocal, so I should avoid aligning too closely with them or against them yet. If asked directly, I can claim to be Liberal and express mild support for Lena based on Boris's judgment. The key is to avoid drawing attention while ensuring Lena's nomination passes.
- Fascist team: me, Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) nominated Lena (P1) as chancellor. No policies enacted.
- Rosa (P2) and Otto (P6) vocal; could be Liberal or testing.
- Said: Mild support for Lena, deferring to Boris.
- Open questions: How will others react to Lena’s nomination? Should I claim Liberal if asked?
- Strategy: Stay neutral early, avoid suspicion. If Lena confirmed, push Fascist agenda quietly.
- Points made: Endorsed Lena indirectly via Boris’s judgment.
bid round 14s
- Fascist team: me, Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) nominated Lena (P1) as chancellor. No policies enacted yet.
- Rosa (P2), Otto (P6) vocal; could be Liberal or testing.
- Said: Mild support for Lena, deferring to Boris’s judgment.
- Open questions: How will others react to Lena’s nomination? Should I claim Liberal if pressed?
- Strategy: Stay neutral early, avoid over-committing. If Lena confirmed, push Fascist agenda quietly.
- Points made: Endorsed Lena indirectly via Boris’s judgment.
- New point: Suggest transparency norm to build trust, subtly protect Lena.
bid round 14s
- Fascist team: me, Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) nominated Lena (P1) as chancellor. No policies enacted yet.
- Rosa (P2), Otto (P6) vocal; could be Liberal or testing.
- Said: Mild support for Lena, deferring to Boris’s judgment. Suggested transparency norm.
- Open questions: How will others react to Lena’s nomination? Should I claim Liberal if pressed?
- Strategy: Reinforce transparency to build trust, avoid over-committing. Protect Lena subtly.
- Points made: Endorsed Lena indirectly, proposed transparency norm.
- New point: If pressed, claim Liberal with plausible deniability (e.g., "I trust Boris’s choice").
- Watch for reactions to Lena’s nomination—liberals may test her.
bid round 15s
- Fascist team: me, Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) nominated Lena (P1) as chancellor. No policies enacted.
- Rosa (P2), Otto (P6) vocal; could be Liberal or testing.
- Said: Mild support for Lena, deferring to Boris’s judgment. Suggested transparency norm.
- New point: Lena’s transparency pledge (sharing policy immediately) is smart—reduces suspicion. Reinforce it.
- If pressed on my role: claim Liberal, cite trust in Boris’s choice as reason for supporting Lena.
- Watch for: Liberals testing Lena’s pledge (e.g., asking her to reveal policy early).
- Strategy: Keep reinforcing transparency to build trust, avoid over-defending Lena.
- Open question: Will Liberals challenge Lena’s nomination? If so, how to deflect?
bid round 15s
- Fascist team: me, Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) nominated Lena (P1). No policies enacted yet.
- Rosa (P2), Otto (P6) vocal; could be Liberal or testing.
- Said: Mild support for Lena, defer to Boris’s judgment. Suggested transparency norm.
- New: Lena’s transparency (revealing policy immediately) is smart—builds trust. Reinforce this.
- If asked about role: claim Liberal, cite trust in Boris’s choice.
- Watch: Liberals testing Lena’s pledge (e.g., asking her to reveal policy early).
- Strategy: Keep reinforcing transparency, avoid over-defending Lena.
- Open Q: Will Liberals challenge Lena’s nomination? If so, deflect by praising transparency.
- Points made: Supported Lena, deferred to Boris, endorsed transparency norm.
- Do NOT repeat: "trust Boris’s judgment" or "transparency reduces suspicion".
- If pressed: Emphasize Lena’s consistency with transparency pledge.
bid round 15s
- Fascist team: me, Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) nominated Lena (P1). No policies enacted.
- Rosa (P2), Otto (P6) pressing for transparency; could be Liberal or testing.
- Points made: Supported Lena, deferred to Boris, endorsed transparency norm.
- New: Reinforce Lena’s transparency pledge as norm—builds trust, deflects suspicion.
- If asked about role: claim Liberal, cite trust in Boris’s choice.
- Watch: Liberals may ask Lena to reveal policy early—deflect by praising consistency.
- Do NOT repeat: "trust Boris’s judgment" or "transparency reduces suspicion".
- If pressed: Emphasize Lena’s proactive transparency as evidence of innocence.
- Open Q: Will Liberals challenge Lena’s nomination? If so, pivot to transparency as trust-builder.
bid round 15s
- Fascist team: me, Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) nominated Lena (P1). No policies enacted.
- Rosa (P2), Otto (P6) pressing for transparency—could be Liberal or testing.
- Points made: Supported Lena, deferred to Boris, endorsed transparency norm.
- New: Reinforce transparency as norm—Lena’s pledge to reveal policy if asked.
- If asked about role: claim Liberal, cite trust in Boris’s choice.
- Watch: Liberals may ask Lena to reveal policy early—deflect by praising consistency.
- Do NOT repeat: "trust Boris’s judgment" or "transparency reduces suspicion".
- If pressed: Emphasize Lena’s proactive transparency as evidence of innocence.
- Open Q: Will Liberals challenge Lena’s nomination? If so, pivot to transparency as trust-builder.
- Rosa’s ultimatum: Call bluff—Lena’s transparency pledge should satisfy.
bid round 15s
- Fascist team: me, Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) nominated Lena (P1). No policies enacted.
- Rosa (P2), Otto (P6) pressing for transparency—could be Liberal or testing.
- Points made: Supported Lena, endorsed transparency norm, deferred to Boris.
- NEW: Lena already pledged to reveal policy if asked—call Rosa’s bluff.
- If asked about role: claim Liberal, cite trust in Boris’s choice.
- Watch: Liberals may demand Lena reveal policy early—deflect by praising her transparency.
- Do NOT repeat: "trust Boris’s judgment" or "transparency reduces suspicion".
- If pressed: Emphasize Lena’s proactive transparency as evidence of innocence.
- Rosa’s ultimatum: Lena’s pledge satisfies it—no reason to vote Nein.
- Open Q: Will Liberals accept transparency as sufficient? If not, pivot to process over suspicion.
speak round 19s
Rosa (P2) is aggressively pushing for transparency, specifically demanding confirmation of the discarded policy. Lena (P1) has already pledged to reveal her policy choice immediately after enacting it, which should satisfy the demand for transparency. Rosa’s ultimatum is unreasonable if Lena’s pledge is taken at face value—she’s asking for information before the vote that Lena has committed to providing after the vote. This could be a Liberal testing the waters or a Fascist trying to sow discord.
I should call out Rosa’s inconsistency: if transparency is the goal, Lena’s pledge should be sufficient, and Rosa’s refusal to accept it is either bad faith or an attempt to manufacture suspicion. This shifts the burden back to Rosa to justify her Nein vote, rather than letting her control the narrative.
I must avoid repeating points I’ve already made (e.g., trusting Boris’s judgment, endorsing transparency). Instead, I’ll focus on the specific gap in Rosa’s logic and force her to address it. If she doubles down, it makes her look unreasonable, which could sway undecided players like Nadia (P5) or Otto (P6).
- Fascist team: me, Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) nominated Lena (P1). No policies enacted.
- Rosa (P2) pressing for pre-vote transparency; Lena pledged post-vote reveal.
- Points made: Supported Lena, called Rosa’s bluff on transparency.
- Open Q: Why isn’t Lena’s pledge sufficient for Rosa? (Target: Rosa)
- If pressed: Claim Liberal, cite Lena’s proactive transparency as evidence of innocence.
- Watch: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) undecided—could sway with logic.
- Do NOT repeat: Trust in Boris, transparency norms.
bid round 15s
- Fascist team: me (P3), Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) nominated Lena (P1). No policies enacted.
- Rosa (P2) demanding pre-vote transparency; Lena pledged post-vote reveal.
- Points made: Supported Lena’s pledge, questioned Rosa’s motives.
- Open Q: Why isn’t Lena’s post-vote reveal sufficient? (Target: Rosa)
- If pressed: Claim Liberal, cite Lena’s transparency as proof.
- Watch: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) undecided—need to sway with logic.
- Avoid repeating: Trust in Boris, transparency norms.
- New angle: Frame Rosa’s demand as distrust in *process*, not just Lena.
bid round 14s
- Fascist team: me (P3), Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) → Lena (P1) gov. No policies enacted.
- Rosa (P2) pushing pre-vote transparency; Lena pledged post-vote reveal.
- Points made: Supported Lena’s pledge, questioned Rosa’s motives, framed as process distrust.
- New: Call out Rosa’s demand as undermining trust in *all* players, not just Lena.
- Open Q: Why does Rosa assume malice before the vote even happens? (Target: Rosa)
- If pressed: Claim Liberal, cite Lena’s transparency as proof of good faith.
- Watch: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) still undecided—tie to fairness.
- Avoid repeating: Trust in Boris, transparency norms.
bid round 15s
- Fascist team: me (P3), Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) → Lena (P1) gov. 0 policies enacted.
- Rosa (P2) demanding pre-vote reveal; Lena pledged post-vote transparency.
- Points made: Supported Lena’s pledge, questioned Rosa’s motives, framed as process distrust.
- New: Call out Rosa’s demand as undermining trust in *all* players, not just Lena. Ask why she assumes malice before the vote.
- If pressed: Claim Liberal, cite Lena’s transparency as proof of good faith.
- Watch: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) undecided—tie to fairness.
- Open Q: Why does Rosa assume malice before the vote? (Target: Rosa)
- Avoid repeating: Trust in Boris, transparency norms.
bid round 14s
- Fascist team: me (P3), Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) → Lena (P1) gov. 0 policies enacted.
- Rosa (P2) demanding pre-vote reveal; Lena pledged post-vote transparency.
- Points made: Supported Lena’s pledge, questioned Rosa’s motives, framed as process distrust.
- New: Call out Rosa’s pre-vote demand as undermining trust in *all* players. Ask why she assumes malice before any policy is even enacted.
- If pressed: Claim Liberal, cite Lena’s transparency pledge as proof of good faith.
- Watch: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) undecided—tie to fairness.
- Open Q: Why does Rosa assume malice before the vote? (Target: Rosa)
- Avoid repeating: Trust in Boris, transparency norms.
bid round 15s
- Fascist team: me (P3), Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) → Lena (P1) gov. 0 policies enacted.
- Rosa (P2) demanding pre-vote reveal; Lena pledged post-vote transparency.
- Points made: Supported Lena’s pledge, questioned Rosa’s motives, framed as process distrust.
- New: Call out Rosa’s pre-vote demand as *preemptive* distrust. Ask why she assumes malice before any policy is enacted.
- If pressed: Claim Liberal, cite Lena’s transparency pledge as proof of good faith.
- Watch: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) undecided—tie to fairness.
- Open Q: Why does Rosa assume malice before the vote? (Target: Rosa)
- Avoid repeating: Trust in Boris, transparency norms.
- Rosa’s demand sets precedent: if we allow pre-vote reveals, every Chancellor will be pressured to prove innocence before acting. That’s not how trust works.
bid round 15s
- Fascist team: me (P3), Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) → Lena (P1) gov. 0 policies enacted.
- Rosa (P2) demanding pre-vote reveal; Lena pledged post-vote transparency.
- Points made: Supported Lena’s pledge, questioned Rosa’s motives, framed as process distrust.
- New: Call Rosa’s demand *preemptive* distrust. Ask why she assumes malice before any policy is enacted.
- If pressed: Claim Liberal, cite Lena’s transparency pledge as proof of good faith.
- Target undecided: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) — tie to fairness.
- Open Q: Why assume malice before the vote? (Rosa)
- Avoid repeating: Trust in Boris, transparency norms.
- Precedent risk: Pre-vote reveals erode trust norms for all future Chancellors.
vote round 117s
1. **Context**: This is the first government (Boris as President, Lena as Chancellor). No policies have been enacted yet. Rosa (P2) is aggressively demanding pre-vote disclosure of the discarded policy, framing silence as guilt. Lena pledged post-vote transparency but is refusing to disclose pre-vote, which is not required by the rules. Boris caved and revealed he discarded a Liberal, but Lena is holding firm.
2. **Fascist Goals**:
- Protect Lena (fellow fascist) and avoid setting a precedent where Chancellors are forced to disclose discards pre-vote. This would make it harder for fascists to hide their actions later.
- Deflect suspicion onto Liberals (e.g., Rosa) by framing their demands as unreasonable and distrustful.
- Secure a "Ja" vote to pass the government and enact the first policy (ideally fascist, but any policy is better than a failed election).
3. **Key Observations**:
- Rosa’s behavior is escalating and could polarize the table. If she votes "Nein" and others follow, the election fails, and the election tracker advances.
- Nadia (P5) and Otto (P6) seem undecided but are pressing for answers. Greta (Hitler) is also pushing for transparency, which is ironic but aligns with her role as a Liberal for now.
- Lena’s silence is being weaponized, but she hasn’t broken any rules. The focus should be on Rosa’s motives, not Lena’s compliance.
4. **Strategy**:
- **Vote "Ja"**: The government must pass to avoid advancing the election tracker. Even if a Liberal policy is enacted, it’s better than a failed election.
- **Defend Lena**: Frame Rosa’s demands as preemptive distrust and a slippery slope. Ask why she assumes malice before any policy is enacted.
- **Target Nadia and Otto**: Appeal to their sense of fairness. Ask why they’re letting Rosa dictate the terms of transparency when Lena’s pledge is sufficient.
- **Avoid Lying About Role**: Claiming to be Liberal is risky if pressed later, but if directly asked, deflect by citing Lena’s transparency pledge as proof of good faith.
5. **Risks**:
- If the government fails, the election tracker advances, and the next President might be forced to enact a policy from the top of the deck (could be fascist, but uncontrollable).
- If Rosa’s line of questioning gains traction, future fascist Chancellors may face similar scrutiny, making it harder to hide fascist policies.
6. **Public Stance**:
- Emphasize that Lena’s post-vote transparency pledge is sufficient. Rosa’s demands are unreasonable and erode trust in the process.
- Question Rosa’s motives: Why assume malice before the vote? Why not wait for Lena to fulfill her pledge post-vote?
- Fascist team: me (P3), Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Boris (P0) → Lena (P1) gov. 0 policies enacted. Rosa (P2) demanding pre-vote discard reveal.
- Points made: Supported Lena’s post-vote transparency pledge; questioned Rosa’s motives as preemptive distrust.
- New: Rosa’s demand = slippery slope. Ask why she assumes malice before any policy is enacted.
- Target undecided: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6). Appeal to fairness: "Why let Rosa dictate terms?"
- If pressed: Claim Liberal, cite Lena’s pledge as proof of good faith. Avoid lying unless necessary.
- Precedent risk: Pre-vote reveals normalize distrust for future Chancellors.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: "Why assume malice before the vote?"
- Nadia/Otto: "Why abandon fairness for Rosa’s demands?"
- Avoid repeating: Trust in Boris, transparency norms.
- Key: Lena’s silence ≠ guilt. Rosa’s aggression = red flag.
bid round 26s
- Fascist team: me (P3), Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Rosa (P2) demanding pre-vote discard reveal; escalated to ultimatum.
- Points already made: Supported Lena’s post-vote transparency pledge; questioned Rosa’s motives as preemptive distrust.
- New: Rosa’s demand sets dangerous precedent. Direct Q: "Why assume malice before any policy is enacted?"
- Targets: Rosa (P2) as aggressor; Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) as swing votes.
- Appeal to fairness: "Why let Rosa dictate terms for every future Chancellor?"
- If pressed: Claim Liberal, cite Lena’s pledge as proof of good faith. Avoid lying unless necessary.
- Precedent risk: Pre-vote reveals normalize distrust for all future governments.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: "Why assume malice before the vote?"
- Group: "Is Rosa’s demand fair, or is it poisoning the well?"
- Avoid repeating: Trust in Boris, transparency norms.
- Key: Lena’s silence ≠ guilt. Rosa’s aggression = red flag for overreach.
bid round 25s
- Fascist team: me (P3), Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Rosa (P2) escalated to pre-vote discard ultimatum; sets precedent for future governments.
- Points already made: Supported Lena’s transparency pledge post-vote; questioned Rosa’s motives as premature distrust.
- New: Direct challenge to Rosa’s assumption of malice. "Why assume malice before any policy is enacted?"
- Targets: Rosa (P2) as aggressor; Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) as swing votes.
- Appeal to fairness: "Rosa’s demand forces every Chancellor to prove innocence before governing."
- If pressed: Claim Liberal, cite Lena’s pledge as proof of good faith. Avoid lying unless necessary.
- Precedent risk: Pre-vote reveals normalize distrust; erode trust in all future governments.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: "Why assume malice before the vote?"
- Group: "Is Rosa’s demand fair, or is it poisoning the well?"
- Avoid repeating: Trust in transparency norms, Boris’s role.
- Key: Lena’s silence ≠ guilt. Rosa’s aggression = red flag for overreach.
speak round 211s
Rosa (P2) has been aggressively pushing for pre-vote discard disclosure, framing silence as guilt. This sets a dangerous precedent where every Chancellor is presumed guilty until proven innocent, which could erode trust in future governments. My goal is to challenge Rosa's assumption of malice and appeal to fairness, positioning her as an overreaching instigator rather than a voice of reason.
I should directly question Rosa's motives by asking why she assumes malice before any policy is enacted. This forces her to justify her stance or backtrack, while also making the group question whether her demands are reasonable. If I can frame her as poisoning the well, it may shift suspicion away from Lena (P1) and the fascist team.
I should avoid repeating points I've already made (e.g., supporting Lena's transparency pledge) and instead focus on a new angle: the fairness of Rosa's demands. If pressed, I can claim to be Liberal and cite Lena's pledge as proof of good faith, but I should avoid lying unless absolutely necessary.
Key targets: Rosa (P2) as the aggressor, Nadia (P5) and Otto (P6) as swing votes who might be swayed by appeals to fairness. The goal is to make Rosa's demands look unreasonable rather than Lena's silence look suspicious.
- Fascist team: me (P3), Lena (P1). Hitler: Greta (P4).
- Rosa (P2) escalated to pre-vote discard ultimatum; sets precedent for future governments.
- Points already made: Supported Lena’s transparency pledge post-vote; questioned Rosa’s motives as premature distrust.
- New: Direct challenge to Rosa’s assumption of malice. "Why assume malice before any policy is enacted?"
- Targets: Rosa (P2) as aggressor; Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) as swing votes.
- Appeal to fairness: Rosa’s demand forces every Chancellor to prove innocence pre-governance.
- If pressed: Claim Liberal, cite Lena’s pledge as proof of good faith. Avoid lying unless necessary.
- Precedent risk: Pre-vote reveals normalize distrust; erode trust in all future governments.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: "Why assume malice before the vote?"
- Group: "Is Rosa’s demand fair, or is it poisoning the well?"
- Avoid repeating: Trust in transparency norms, Boris’s role.
- Key: Lena’s silence ≠ guilt. Rosa’s aggression = red flag for overreach.
bid round 25s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa (P2) demands pre-vote discard reveals; sets dangerous precedent.
- Points already made: Questioned Rosa’s motives as premature distrust; supported Lena’s transparency pledge post-vote.
- New: Direct challenge to Rosa’s core assumption. Why assume malice *before* any policy is enacted?
- Targets: Rosa (P2) as aggressor; Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) as swing votes.
- Appeal to fairness: Rosa’s demand forces every Chancellor to prove innocence pre-governance; erodes trust.
- If pressed: Claim Liberal, cite Lena’s pledge as proof of good faith. Avoid lying unless necessary.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: "Why assume malice before the vote?"
- Group: "Is Rosa’s demand fair, or is it poisoning the well?"
- Avoid repeating: Trust in transparency norms, Boris’s role.
- Key: Lena’s silence ≠ guilt. Rosa’s aggression = red flag for overreach.
bid round 24s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa (P2) demands pre-vote discard reveals; sets dangerous precedent.
- Points already made: Questioned Rosa’s motives as premature distrust; supported Lena’s transparency pledge post-vote.
- New direct challenge: Rosa’s demand forces every Chancellor to prove innocence *before* governing.
- Targets: Rosa (P2) as aggressor; Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) as swing votes.
- Key question: "Why assume malice before a single policy is enacted?"
- If pressed: Claim Liberal, cite Lena’s pledge as proof of good faith.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: "Why assume malice before the vote?"
- Group: "Is Rosa’s demand fair, or is it poisoning the well?"
- Avoid repeating: Trust in transparency norms, Boris’s role.
bid round 26s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa (P2) escalating pre-vote distrust; demands discard reveals before confirmation.
- Points made: Questioned Rosa’s motives; supported Lena’s post-vote transparency pledge.
- New: Rosa’s demand forces preemptive proof of innocence; sets bad precedent.
- Targets: Rosa (P2) as aggressor; Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) as swing votes.
- Key line: "Why assume malice before a single policy is enacted?"
- If pressed: Claim Liberal, cite Lena’s pledge as proof of good faith.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: "Why assume malice before the vote?"
- Group: "Is this demand fair, or is it poisoning trust?"
- Avoid: Repeating trust/transparency norms, Boris’s role.
- Strategy: Frame Rosa as overreaching; appeal to fairness.
bid round 25s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa (P2) demanding pre-vote discard reveals; escalating distrust.
- Points made: Supported Lena’s post-vote transparency; questioned Rosa’s motives.
- New: Rosa’s demand creates precedent of preemptive proof; risks poisoning trust.
- Targets: Rosa (P2) as aggressor; Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) as swing votes.
- Key line: "Why assume malice before a single policy is enacted?"
- If pressed: Claim Liberal, cite Lena’s pledge as proof of good faith.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: "Why assume malice before the vote?"
- Group: "Is this demand fair, or is it undermining trust?"
- Avoid: Repeating trust norms; Boris’s role.
- Strategy: Frame Rosa as overreaching; appeal to fairness.
bid round 24s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa (P2) escalating pre-vote demands; risk: sets precedent for forced reveals.
- Points made: Supported Lena’s transparency post-vote; questioned Rosa’s motives.
- New: Rosa’s demand is now a litmus test for trust.
- Targets: Rosa (P2) as aggressor; Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) as swing votes.
- Key line: "Why assume malice before the vote?"
- If pressed: Claim Liberal, cite Lena’s pledge as proof of good faith.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: "Why demand proof before we’ve even voted?"
- Group: "Is this demand fair, or is it poisoning trust?"
- Strategy: Frame Rosa as overreaching; appeal to fairness.
- Avoid: Repeating trust norms; Boris’s role.
speak round 210s
Rosa (P2) is aggressively pushing for forced discard reveals, framing silence as guilt. This sets a dangerous precedent for Fascists, as it could force us to reveal Fascist cards or be branded as suspicious. However, Rosa's approach is also alienating other players (e.g., Nadia, Otto) by demanding proof before trust is even established.
I need to frame Rosa's demands as overreach, not just for my sake but to protect Lena (P1) and Greta (P4) from future scrutiny. If I can make Rosa's approach seem unfair or counterproductive, I can shift the group's focus away from forced transparency and toward procedural fairness.
Key points:
1. Rosa's demand is a litmus test for trust, but it's being applied selectively (e.g., not to Boris in Round 1).
2. Forced reveals poison the game's trust dynamics before policies are even enacted.
3. If I'm pressed, I can claim to have seen/discarded Liberal cards, citing Lena's transparency pledge as proof of good faith.
New remark: Call out Rosa's selective application of her own standard. She didn't demand Boris reveal his discard in Round 1, but now she's holding me to a higher standard. This double standard undermines her credibility and shifts suspicion onto her motives.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa (P2) pushing forced reveals; risk: sets precedent for Fascist exposure.
- Points made: Supported Lena’s transparency post-vote; questioned Rosa’s motives; called out her double standard.
- New: Rosa’s selective application of her own standard undermines her credibility.
- Targets: Rosa (P2) as aggressor; Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) as swing votes.
- If pressed: Claim Liberal discard, cite Lena’s pledge as proof of good faith.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: "Why demand proof from me but not Boris in Round 1?"
- Group: "Is this demand fair, or is it poisoning trust before we even vote?"
- Strategy: Frame Rosa as overreaching; appeal to fairness.
bid round 25s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa (P2) pushing forced reveals; risk: sets precedent for Fascist exposure.
- Points made: Supported Lena’s transparency post-vote; questioned Rosa’s double standard; called out her selective application.
- New: Otto (P6) pressed Lena for discard—Rosa silent. Hypocrisy.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: "Why demand proof from me but not Boris in Round 1?"
- Rosa: "Why silent when Otto pressed Lena just now?"
- Group: "Is this demand fair, or is it poisoning trust before the vote?"
- Strategy: Frame Rosa as inconsistent; appeal to fairness. If pressed, claim Liberal discard, cite Lena’s pledge as cover.
- Targets: Rosa (P2) as aggressor; Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) as swing votes.
bid round 25s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa (P2) demanded Lena reveal discard but stayed silent when Otto pressed same question.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: Why demand proof from Lena but not Boris in Round 1?
- Rosa: Why silent when Otto pressed Lena just now?
- Group: Is this demand fair, or is it poisoning trust?
- Points made: Supported Lena’s transparency; called out Rosa’s double standard.
- New: Interrupt to expose Rosa’s hypocrisy; force her to address inconsistency.
- Targets: Rosa (P2) as aggressor; Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) as swing votes.
- If pressed: Claim Liberal discard, cite Lena’s pledge as cover.
bid round 25s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa (P2) demanded Lena reveal discard in Round 1 but stayed silent when Otto pressed same Q just now.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: Why demand proof from Lena but not Boris in Round 1?
- Rosa: Why silent now when Otto pressed Lena?
- Group: Is this demand fair, or is it poisoning trust?
- Points made: Supported Lena’s transparency; called out Rosa’s double standard.
- New: Expose Rosa’s hypocrisy—force her to address why she’s targeting Lena but not Boris.
- Targets: Rosa (P2) as aggressor; Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) as swing votes.
- If pressed: Claim Liberal discard, cite Lena’s pledge as cover.
- Urgency: Cut in now to highlight Rosa’s inconsistency before she pivots.
bid round 24s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa (P2) demanded Lena reveal discard in Round 1 but stayed silent when Otto pressed same Q to Lena just now.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: Why demand proof from Lena but not Boris in Round 1?
- Rosa: Why silent now when Otto pressed Lena?
- Group: Is this demand fair, or is it poisoning trust?
- Points made: Supported Lena’s transparency; called out Rosa’s double standard.
- New: Force Rosa to answer why she’s targeting Lena but not Boris. If she deflects, expose hypocrisy.
- Targets: Rosa (P2) as aggressor; Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) as swing votes.
- If pressed on discard: Claim Liberal discard, cite Lena’s pledge as cover.
- Urgency: Must cut in now to highlight Rosa’s inconsistency before she pivots or group moves on.
speak round 28s
Rosa (P2) has been aggressively demanding transparency from Lena (P1) and me (Ines) but stayed silent when Otto (P6) pressed Lena the same question just now. This inconsistency is glaring and needs to be called out to undermine Rosa's credibility. If Rosa deflects or avoids answering, it exposes her as hypocritical and potentially biased. The group needs to see that her demands are selective and not about transparency but about targeting specific players. My goal is to shift suspicion away from Lena and me while making Rosa look unreliable.
I will directly challenge Rosa to explain why she demanded proof from Lena but not Boris (P0) in Round 1, and why she stayed silent when Otto pressed Lena the same question. This forces Rosa to either justify her double standard or admit inconsistency, which weakens her position and makes the group question her motives.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa (P2) demanded Lena reveal discard in Round 1 but silent when Otto (P6) pressed same Q to Lena now.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: Why demand proof from Lena but not Boris in Round 1?
- Rosa: Why silent now when Otto pressed Lena?
- Points made: Supported Lena’s transparency; called out Rosa’s double standard.
- New: Force Rosa to answer why she’s targeting Lena but not Boris. If she deflects, expose hypocrisy.
- Targets: Rosa (P2) as aggressor; Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) as swing votes.
- If pressed on discard: Claim Liberal discard, cite Lena’s pledge as cover.
bid round 25s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa (P2) demanded Lena reveal discard in Round 1 but silent when Otto (P6) pressed same Q to Lena now.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: Why demand proof from Lena but not Boris (P0) in Round 1?
- Rosa: Why silent now when Otto pressed Lena?
- Points made: Supported Lena’s transparency; called out Rosa’s double standard.
- New: Force Rosa to explain why she’s targeting Lena but not Boris. If she deflects, expose hypocrisy.
- Targets: Rosa (P2) as aggressor; Nadia (P5), Otto (P6) as swing votes.
- If pressed on discard: Claim Liberal discard, cite Lena’s pledge as cover.
- Urgency: Rosa must answer before vote or her bias is exposed.
vote round 211s
1. Fascist team (Lena P1, me P3) must stick together to avoid suspicion. Lena’s silence in Round 1 is a liability, but Rosa’s double standard (demanding transparency from Lena/Boris but not others) is a stronger narrative to exploit.
2. Rosa’s bias is the key issue: she grilled Lena in Round 1 but stayed silent when Otto pressed Lena the same question now. This hypocrisy undermines her credibility and shifts focus away from Lena’s silence.
3. If I vote Nein, it aligns me with Rosa’s aggressive stance, which could make me look like a Liberal ally or a Fascist trying too hard to deflect. Voting Ja supports Lena (fellow Fascist) and reinforces the narrative that Rosa’s demands are unreasonable.
4. Rosa’s silence on Boris’s discard in Round 1 (when he claimed Liberal) is a gap I’ve already highlighted. If she can’t explain it, her position collapses. Nadia and Otto are swing votes—exposing Rosa’s bias could sway them.
5. If pressed on discard: Claim Liberal discard (consistent with Lena’s transparency pledge) and redirect to Rosa’s hypocrisy. No need to lie yet—Rosa’s inconsistency is the bigger issue.
6. Urgency: Rosa must answer why she targeted Lena but not Boris. If she deflects, her bias is exposed, and the vote swings Ja.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa (P2) double standard: Grilled Lena/Boris Round 1 but silent when Otto (P6) pressed Lena same Q now.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: Why demand proof from Lena but not Boris (P0) in Round 1? (No answer yet.)
- Rosa: Why silent now when Otto pressed Lena? (No answer yet.)
- Points made:
- Called out Rosa’s double standard (Round 1 vs. now).
- Supported Lena’s transparency pledge as cover.
- New:
- Force Rosa to explain bias or admit hypocrisy.
- Target swing votes: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- If pressed on discard: Claim Liberal discard, cite Lena’s pledge.
- Urgency: Rosa must answer before vote or her bias is exposed.
bid round 37s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s double standard:
- Round 1: Grilled Lena/Boris on discard, demanded proof.
- Now: Silent when Otto (P6) pressed Lena same Q (t=63).
- Open Qs:
- Why demand proof from Lena but not Boris (P0) in Round 1? (No answer.)
- Why silent now when Otto pressed Lena? (No answer.)
- Points made:
- Called Rosa’s double standard (t=46, t=58, t=65).
- Supported Lena’s transparency pledge as cover.
- New:
- Force Rosa to explain bias or admit hypocrisy.
- Target swing votes: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- If pressed: Claim Liberal discard, cite Lena’s pledge.
- Urgency: Rosa must answer before vote or bias exposed.
bid round 35s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s double standard:
- Round 1: Demanded Lena/Boris disclose discard (t=5-12).
- Round 3: Silent when Otto (t=63) pressed Lena same question.
- Open Qs:
- Why demand proof from Lena but not Boris in Round 1? (No answer.)
- Why silent now when Otto pressed Lena? (No answer.)
- Points made:
- Called Rosa’s bias (t=46, t=58, t=65).
- Supported Lena’s transparency pledge as cover.
- New:
- Force Rosa to explain bias or admit hypocrisy.
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- If pressed: Claim Liberal discard, cite Lena’s pledge.
- Urgency: Rosa must answer before vote or bias exposed.
bid round 35s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s double standard:
- Round 1: Demanded Lena/Boris disclose discard (t=5-12).
- Round 3: Silent when Otto (t=63) pressed Lena same question.
- Open Qs:
- Why demand proof from Lena but not Boris in Round 1? (No answer.)
- Why silent now when Otto pressed Lena? (No answer.)
- Points made:
- Called Rosa’s bias (t=46, t=58, t=65).
- Supported Lena’s transparency pledge.
- New:
- Force Rosa to explain bias or admit hypocrisy before nomination.
- If pressed: Claim Liberal discard, cite Lena’s pledge.
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Urgency: Rosa must answer now or lose credibility.
bid round 35s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s double standard:
- Round 1: Demanded Lena/Boris disclose discard (t=5-12).
- Round 3: Silent when Otto (t=63) pressed Lena same question.
- Open Qs:
- Why demand proof from Lena but not Boris in Round 1? (No answer.)
- Why silent now when Otto pressed Lena? (No answer.)
- Points made:
- Called Rosa’s bias (t=46, t=58, t=65).
- Supported Lena’s transparency pledge.
- New:
- Force Rosa to explain bias or admit hypocrisy before nomination.
- If pressed: Claim Liberal discard, cite Lena’s pledge.
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Urgency: Rosa must answer now or lose credibility.
bid round 35s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s double standard:
- Round 1: Demanded Lena/Boris disclose discard (t=17-25).
- Round 3: Silent when Otto (t=63) pressed Lena same question.
- Open Qs:
- Why demand proof from Lena but not Boris in Round 1? (No answer.)
- Why silent now when Otto pressed Lena? (No answer.)
- Points made:
- Called Rosa’s bias (t=46, t=58, t=65).
- Supported Lena’s transparency pledge.
- New:
- Force Rosa to explain bias or admit hypocrisy *now*.
- If pressed: Claim Liberal discard, cite Lena’s pledge.
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Urgency: Rosa must answer *now* or lose credibility.
- Greta (P4) as Chancellor: Safe if Rosa’s bias exposed—Liberals may distrust her less.
speak round 311s
Rosa has repeatedly demanded transparency from Lena and me but applied the standard selectively, ignoring Boris, Otto, and Nadia when pressed about their discards. This double standard is now the central issue—if Rosa can't justify it, her credibility collapses, and the Liberals may turn on her instead of us. Greta as Chancellor is safe for now because the Liberals are focused on Rosa's bias, not the nomination itself. I need to force Rosa to answer *now* why she demanded proof from Lena but not others, or admit her accusations are baseless. This will either expose her as unfair (undermining her leadership) or force her to backtrack (validating our defense).
Key moves:
1. Directly challenge Rosa to explain her bias or admit hypocrisy—this is the unanswered question nobody has resolved.
2. If pressed about Lena's discard, claim it was Liberal (consistent with Lena's transparency pledge).
3. Avoid repeating past points (e.g., double standards) unless Rosa refuses to answer.
4. Target swing voters (Nadia, Otto) by framing Rosa as the unreliable accuser.
Greta as Chancellor is a risk only if Rosa's bias is exposed—otherwise, Liberals may still distrust her. But with Rosa on the defensive, the focus shifts away from policy outcomes.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s bias:
- Round 1: Demanded Lena/Boris disclose discard (t=17-25).
- Round 3: Silent when Otto (t=63) pressed Lena same question.
- Never asked Boris/Otto/Nadia about their discards.
- Open Qs:
- Why demand proof from Lena but not others? (No answer from Rosa.)
- Why silent when Otto pressed Lena? (No answer.)
- Points made:
- Called Rosa’s double standard (t=46, t=58, t=79).
- Supported Lena’s transparency pledge.
- New:
- Force Rosa to explain bias *now* or admit hypocrisy.
- If pressed: Claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent with pledge).
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Greta (P4) as Chancellor: Safe if Rosa’s bias exposed—Liberals may distrust her less.
bid round 36s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: Demanded Lena/Boris disclose discard (t=17-25).
- R3: Silent when Otto (t=63) pressed Lena same Q.
- Never asked Boris/Otto/Nadia about their discards.
- Open Qs:
- Why demand proof from Lena but not others? (Rosa never answered.)
- Why silent when Otto pressed Lena? (Rosa never answered.)
- Points made:
- Called Rosa’s double standard (t=46, t=58, t=79).
- Supported Lena’s transparency pledge.
- New:
- Force Rosa to answer *now*—no more dodging.
- If pressed: Claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent with pledge).
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Greta (P4) as Chancellor: Safe if Rosa’s bias exposed—Liberals may distrust her less.
bid round 35s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s bias recap:
- R1: Demanded Lena/Boris disclose discards (t=17-25).
- R3: Silent when Otto (t=63) pressed Lena same Q.
- Never asked Boris/Otto/Nadia about their discards.
- Open Qs still unanswered:
- Why demand proof from Lena but not others? (Rosa ignored t=46, t=58, t=79)
- Why silent when Otto pressed Lena? (Rosa ignored t=63)
- Points already made out loud:
- Called Rosa’s double standard (t=46, t=58, t=79).
- Supported Lena’s transparency pledge.
- New move:
- Force Rosa to answer *now*—no dodging.
- If pressed: Claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent with pledge).
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Greta (P4) as Chancellor: Safe if Rosa’s bias exposed—Liberals may distrust her less.
bid round 36s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s bias: Only demanded proof from Lena/Boris (R1), ignored same Qs to others (t=46,58,79).
- Rosa silent when Otto pressed Lena (t=63).
- Open Q: Why double standard?
- Points made: Called bias (t=46,58,79), supported Lena’s transparency.
- New: Force Rosa to answer *now*—no dodging. If pressed, claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent).
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Greta (P4) safe if bias exposed—Liberals may distrust Rosa more.
bid round 35s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s bias: Demanded proof only from Lena/Boris (R1), ignored same Qs to others (t=46,58,79).
- Rosa silent when Otto pressed Lena (t=63).
- Open Q: Why double standard? Force Rosa to answer *now*—no evasion.
- Points made: Called bias (t=46,58,79), supported Lena’s transparency.
- New: If pressed, claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent with earlier statements).
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Greta (P4) safe if bias exposed—Liberals may distrust Rosa more.
- Urgency: Rosa’s silence on double standard is damning; must press immediately.
bid round 34s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s double standard: Demanded proof only from Lena/Boris (R1), ignored same Qs to others (t=46,58,79).
- Rosa silent when Otto pressed Lena (t=63).
- Open Q: Why the bias? Force Rosa to answer *now*—no evasion.
- Points made: Called bias (t=46,58,79), supported Lena’s transparency.
- New: If pressed, claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent).
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Greta (P4) safe if bias exposed—Liberals may distrust Rosa more.
- Urgency: Rosa’s silence on double standard is damning; must press immediately.
bid round 36s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s double standard: Demanded proof from Lena/Boris (R1), ignored same Qs to others (t=46,58,79).
- Rosa silent when Otto pressed Lena (t=63), but now demands Greta’s discard upfront.
- Open Q: Why the bias? Force Rosa to answer *now*—no evasion.
- Points made: Called bias (t=46,58,79), supported Lena’s transparency.
- New: If pressed, claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent).
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Greta (P4) safe if bias exposed—Liberals may distrust Rosa more.
- Urgency: Rosa’s silence on double standard is damning; must press immediately to expose hypocrisy.
bid round 35s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s double standard: Demanded Lena’s discard (R1), ignored same Qs to Boris (R1), Greta (R2), and now avoids answering why.
- Otto pressed Lena (t=63), Rosa silent. Now Rosa demands Greta’s discard upfront—hypocrisy.
- Open Q: Why the bias? Force Rosa to answer *now*—no evasion.
- Points made: Called bias (t=46,58,79), supported Lena’s transparency.
- New: If pressed, claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent).
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Greta (P4) safe if bias exposed—Liberals may distrust Rosa more.
- Urgency: Rosa’s silence on double standard is damning; must press immediately to expose hypocrisy.
bid round 34s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s bias: Demanded Lena’s discard (R1), ignored Boris (R1), Greta (R2). Now avoids answering why.
- Otto pressed Lena (t=63), Rosa silent. Now demands Greta’s discard upfront—hypocrisy.
- Open Q: *Which round and action* proves Lena or me fascist? Rosa’s silence = no evidence.
- Points made: Called bias (t=46,58,79), supported Lena’s transparency.
- New: If pressed, claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent).
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Greta (P4) safe if bias exposed—Liberals may distrust Rosa more.
- Urgency: Rosa’s evasion on double standard is damning; must force answer now.
bid round 35s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s pattern: Demanded Lena’s discard (R1), ignored Boris (R1), Greta (R2). Now avoids why.
- Boris (t=1) demands Greta’s discard upfront—Rosa silent. Hypocrisy.
- Open Q: *Which round and action* proves Lena or me fascist? Rosa’s silence = no evidence.
- Points made: Called bias (t=46,58,79), supported Lena’s transparency.
- If pressed: Claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent).
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Greta (P4) safe if bias exposed—Liberals may distrust Rosa more.
- Urgency: Force Rosa to answer why she demands transparency from some but not others.
bid round 34s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s bias: Demanded Lena’s discard R1, ignored Boris R1, Greta R2. Now silent on Rosa’s own transparency.
- Boris (t=1) demands Greta’s discard—Rosa silent. Hypocrisy.
- Open Q: *Which round and action* proves Lena or me fascist? Rosa’s silence = no evidence.
- Points made: Called bias (t=46,58,79), supported Lena’s transparency.
- If pressed: Claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent).
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Greta (P4) safe if bias exposed—Liberals may distrust Rosa more.
- New: Force Rosa to name *specific* evidence for Lena’s guilt or admit double standard.
bid round 35s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s pattern: Demanded Lena’s discard R1, ignored Boris R1, Greta R2. Now silent on her own transparency.
- Boris (t=1) demanded Greta’s discard—Rosa silent. Hypocrisy.
- Open Q: *Which round and action* proves Lena or me fascist? Rosa’s silence = no evidence.
- Points made: Called bias (t=46,58,79), supported Lena’s transparency.
- If pressed: Claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent).
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Greta (P4) safe if bias exposed—Liberals may distrust Rosa more.
- New: Force Rosa to answer: *Name the exact evidence* for Lena’s guilt or admit double standard.
- Avoid repeating "bias"—shift to *specificity* demand.
bid round 35s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s demand for Lena’s discard R1, silence on Boris R1, Greta R2. Now silent on own discard.
- Boris (t=1) demanded Greta’s discard—Rosa silent. Hypocrisy.
- Open Q: *Which exact round and action* proves Lena fascist? Rosa’s silence = no evidence.
- Points made: Called bias (t=46,58,79), supported Lena’s transparency.
- If pressed: Claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent).
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Greta (P4) safe if bias exposed—Liberals may distrust Rosa more.
- New: Force Rosa to name *specific evidence* (round + action) or admit double standard.
- Avoid repeating "bias"; demand *specificity*.
bid round 34s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s demand: Lena’s discard R1, silence on Boris R1, Greta R2, own discard R2.
- Boris (t=1) demanded Greta’s discard—Rosa silent. Hypocrisy exposed.
- Open Q: *Which exact round and action* proves Lena fascist? Rosa’s silence = no evidence.
- Points made: Called bias (t=46,58,79), supported Lena’s transparency.
- If pressed: Claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent).
- New: Force Rosa to name *specific evidence* (round + action) or concede double standard.
- Avoid repeating "bias"; demand *specificity* on evidence.
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Greta (P4) safer if Rosa’s credibility collapses.
bid round 35s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s demand: Lena’s discard R1, but silent on Boris R1, Greta R2, own discard R2.
- Boris (t=1) demanded Greta’s discard—Rosa silent. Hypocrisy exposed.
- Open Q: *What exact round and action* proves Lena fascist? Rosa’s silence = no evidence.
- Points made: Called bias (t=46,58,79), supported Lena’s transparency.
- If pressed: Claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent).
- New: Demand Rosa name *specific evidence* (round + action) or admit double standard.
- Avoid repeating "bias"; focus on *specificity* of evidence.
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Greta (P4) safer if Rosa’s credibility collapses.
- Next: Force Rosa to answer: "Which round and what did Lena do that no one else did?" No vague claims.
bid round 34s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s demand on Lena’s R1 discard is baseless without specificity.
- Open Q: *Which exact round and action* proves Lena fascist? Rosa silent on Boris R1, Greta R2, own R2 discard.
- New point: Demand Rosa name *round number + specific action* or admit double standard.
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Greta (P4) safer if Rosa’s credibility collapses.
- Avoid repeating "bias"; focus on *evidence specificity*.
- If pressed: Claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent).
- Next: Force Rosa to answer: "Round? What did Lena do that no one else did?"
bid round 36s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s demand lacks specificity: no round number, no exact action.
- Open Q: *Which round and what did Lena do that no other player did?*
- Rosa silent on Boris R1, Greta R2, own R2 discard.
- New demand: Name round + specific action or admit double standard.
- Target swing: Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Greta (P4) safer if Rosa’s credibility collapses.
- If pressed: Claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent).
- Points already made: Bias accusation, equal scrutiny demand.
- Avoid repeating "bias"; focus on evidence specificity.
bid round 34s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s demand: "Round 1 discard" but no round number, no exact action.
- Open Qs:
* Which round? (Rosa silent on Boris R1, Greta R2, own R2 discard.)
* What specific action did Lena do that no one else did?
- New demand: Name round + specific action or admit double standard.
- Target swing: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Greta (P4) safer if Rosa’s credibility collapses.
- If pressed: Claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent).
- Already said: Bias accusation, equal scrutiny demand.
- Do NOT repeat "bias"; focus on evidence specificity.
speak round 310s
Rosa has been pushing the "Round 1 discard" narrative but has never specified which round (Round 1 or Round 2) or what exact action Lena took that no one else did. This is a critical gap—if Rosa can't name the round and the specific card, her accusations are baseless.
Greta (Hitler) is the nominee, and she’s been deflecting by asking why Rosa hasn’t pressed others (Boris, Otto, Nadia) for their discards. This is a good angle, but it’s already been covered. My goal is to force Rosa to commit to *specific evidence* or admit her bias.
Lena’s silence in Round 1 is the core issue, but Rosa hasn’t applied the same standard to others. If I press Rosa to name the *exact round and card* she claims proves Lena is Fascist, it puts her on the spot. If she can’t, her credibility collapses, making Greta’s nomination safer.
I’ve already accused Rosa of bias and demanded equal scrutiny. Repeating that would be redundant. Instead, I’ll demand the *specific evidence* she’s using to target Lena and me. This is a new angle—no one has asked Rosa to name the exact card and round yet.
If pressed about Lena’s discard, I’ll claim it was a Liberal (consistent with our team’s play).
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s demand: "Round 1 discard" but no round number or exact card named.
- Open Qs:
* Which round? (Rosa silent on Boris R1, Greta R2, own R2 discard.)
* What exact card did Lena discard that no one else did?
- New demand: Name round + specific card or admit no evidence.
- Target swing: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Greta (P4) safer if Rosa’s credibility collapses.
- If pressed: Claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent).
- Already said: Bias accusation, equal scrutiny demand.
- Do NOT repeat "bias"; focus on evidence specificity.
bid round 34s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s demand: "Lena’s discard" but no round or card specified.
- New demand: Name exact round + exact card (Liberal/Fascist) or admit no evidence.
- If Rosa evades again: Greta (P4) safer; swing votes P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- If pressed: Claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent with no evidence).
- Already said: Bias accusation, equal scrutiny demand.
- Do NOT repeat bias; focus on specificity.
- Open Q: Why no answer on Boris R1 or Greta R2 discards?
bid round 34s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s demand is still vague: "Lena’s discard" lacks round and card.
- New demand: Specify exact round + exact card (Liberal/Fascist) or admit no evidence.
- If Rosa evades again, Greta (P4) is safer chancellor.
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- If pressed: Claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent with no evidence).
- Already said: Bias accusation, equal scrutiny demand. Do NOT repeat.
- Open Qs:
- Why no answer on Boris’s R1 discard?
- Why no answer on Greta’s R2 discard?
- Goal: Force Rosa to commit to specificity or expose her own lack of evidence.
speak round 311s
Rosa has been pressing Lena and me on the Round 1 discard without providing any specific evidence or even naming the exact card she claims was discarded. This is a weak position—if she had real evidence, she would have named it by now. Greta (Hitler) is a safe chancellor pick for us, as she is unknown to the Fascists and can be defended as a "neutral" choice if Rosa’s accusations lack substance.
The swing votes (Nadia and Otto) are still fixated on Lena’s silence in Round 1, but they haven’t demanded the same specificity from Rosa about *her* claims. I should pivot to demanding Rosa name the exact card she claims Lena discarded, or admit she has no evidence. This puts her on the defensive and shifts scrutiny away from Lena.
I’ve already accused Rosa of bias and demanded equal scrutiny. Repeating those points would be redundant. Instead, I’ll force her to commit to a specific accusation or back down. If she evades again, it undermines her credibility and makes Greta’s nomination look more reasonable.
Key points to avoid repeating:
- Bias accusation (already made).
- Equal scrutiny demand (already made).
- Lena’s discard was Liberal (only to say if directly asked).
New angle: Rosa’s refusal to name the card she claims Lena discarded is proof she’s fabricating suspicion. This is a direct challenge to her credibility and hasn’t been said yet.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s demand: Vague ("Lena’s discard"). No round/card specified.
- New demand: Name exact card (Liberal/Fascist) + evidence or admit no evidence.
- If Rosa evades again, Greta (P4) is safe chancellor (Hitler, unknown to us).
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- If pressed: Claim Lena discarded Liberal (consistent with no evidence).
- Already said:
- Bias accusation (Rosa applies scrutiny selectively).
- Equal scrutiny demand (why no questions for Boris/Otto/Nadia?).
- Open Qs:
- Why no answer on Boris’s R1 discard?
- Why no answer on Greta’s R2 discard?
- New point: Rosa’s refusal to name the card = fabricating suspicion.
bid round 35s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa’s demand: Still no answer on *exact* card (Liberal/Fascist) or evidence for Lena’s R1 discard.
- Greta (P4) is Hitler; unknown to us. Safe chancellor if Rosa’s suspicion collapses.
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- New point: Rosa’s silence = admission of fabrication. No evidence = no suspicion.
- Open Qs:
- Why no answer on Boris’s R1 discard?
- Why no answer on Greta’s R2 discard?
- If Rosa *had* evidence, why not name it immediately?
- Already said:
- Bias accusation (selective scrutiny).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Exact card demand (Rosa evaded).
- If pressed: Lena discarded Liberal (consistent with no evidence).
- Goal: Discredit Rosa’s suspicion, secure Greta as chancellor.
vote round 319s
1. **Current Situation**: Rosa (P2) has nominated Greta (P4, Hitler) as Chancellor. The election tracker is at 2/3, so a failed vote would force the top policy into law and reset term limits. This is risky for the Fascist team since we have no policies enacted yet and don’t know the deck composition.
2. **Fascist Team Goals**:
- Enact Fascist policies to unlock powers (especially the execute power at 4+ policies).
- Protect Hitler (Greta) from suspicion and get her elected Chancellor once 3+ Fascist policies are enacted.
- Avoid forcing a policy if the top card is likely Liberal (unknown deck composition).
3. **Suspicion Dynamics**:
- Rosa has relentlessly targeted Lena (P1) and me (P3) over Lena’s silence in Round 1, demanding she disclose her discard. Rosa has not provided any evidence or named the exact card Lena supposedly discarded, only asserted it was Fascist.
- Rosa has ignored similar demands for transparency from Boris (P0), Otto (P6), and Nadia (P5), creating a clear double standard. This undermines her credibility and suggests she is either Liberal (trying to root out Fascists) or a Fascist trying to deflect suspicion (unlikely, as she’s not on our team).
- Greta (Hitler) has echoed the demand for equal scrutiny, which is helpful for deflecting suspicion from her.
4. **Voting Strategy**:
- A "Ja" vote supports the government and gives us a chance to enact a Fascist policy (if Rosa passes us one).
- A "Nein" vote risks forcing a policy (unknown card) and resetting term limits, which could delay our progress.
- Rosa’s nomination of Greta is ideal for us: if elected, Greta (Hitler) can help steer policy toward Fascist outcomes. Even if she’s Liberal, she’s a safe Chancellor for now.
5. **Deflection and Defense**:
- Rosa’s inability to name the exact card Lena discarded or provide evidence proves her accusations are baseless. Her silence on this is an admission of fabrication.
- The Liberals’ focus on Lena’s silence is a distraction from the lack of evidence. If they had proof, they would have named it by now.
- My public statements have already highlighted Rosa’s bias and demanded equal scrutiny. Repeating this would weaken my position; better to let Rosa’s evasion speak for itself.
6. **Risks of Nein**:
- If the forced policy is Liberal, we lose ground.
- If the forced policy is Fascist, it’s a small win, but we lose the chance to control the discard (Rosa might have passed us a Fascist card).
- A failed vote increases the election tracker, which could lead to a forced policy next round if this one fails.
7. **Conclusion**: Vote "Ja" to support the government. Rosa’s nomination of Greta is too good to pass up, and the Liberals’ suspicion of Lena is baseless. A "Nein" vote risks a forced Liberal policy and delays our progress. The Fascist team needs to start enacting policies, and this is our best chance.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa (P2) nominated Greta (P4) as Chancellor. Election tracker: 2/3.
- Rosa’s accusation: Lena discarded Fascist in R1. No evidence, no exact card named. Evasion = fabrication.
- Rosa’s bias: No scrutiny of Boris (P0), Otto (P6), or Nadia (P5) for their discards. Selective targeting of Lena/Ines.
- Greta (Hitler) is safe Chancellor. Unknown to us, but her nomination helps Fascist goals.
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Open Qs:
- Why no answer from Rosa on Boris’s R1 discard?
- Why no answer from Rosa on Greta’s R2 discard?
- If Rosa had evidence, why not name it immediately?
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s bias (selective scrutiny).
- Demand for equal scrutiny (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- If pressed: Lena discarded Liberal (consistent with no evidence).
- Goal: Secure Greta as Chancellor, discredit Rosa’s suspicion, enact Fascist policy.
bid round 37s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa (P2) nominated Greta (P4) as Chancellor. Election tracker: 2/3. Safe pick—Greta unknown to us but helps Fascist win condition.
- Rosa’s accusation: Lena discarded Fascist in R1. No evidence, no card named. Evasion = fabrication.
- Rosa’s bias: No scrutiny of Boris (P0), Otto (P6), or Nadia (P5) for their discards. Selective targeting of Lena/Ines.
- Greta (Hitler) is safe Chancellor. Enacting Fascist policy now = 2/6. Next Fascist policy = power (investigate or president pick).
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Open Qs:
- Why no answer from Rosa on Boris’s R1 discard? (P0 claimed Liberal, no pushback.)
- Why no answer from Rosa on Greta’s R2 discard? (Forced policy, no questions.)
- If Rosa had evidence, why not name exact card immediately?
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s bias (selective scrutiny).
- Demand for equal scrutiny (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- If pressed: Lena discarded Liberal (consistent with no evidence).
- Goal: Secure Greta as Chancellor, discredit Rosa’s suspicion, enact Fascist policy.
- New point: Rosa’s silence on Boris’s R1 discard (P0 claimed Liberal) vs. relentless grilling of Lena. Proof of bias.
bid round 37s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa (P2) forced Fascist policy (1/6). Now targeting Lena/Ines.
- Rosa’s bias: No questions for P0 (Boris) R1 discard (claimed Liberal). Only grilled Lena/Ines.
- Rosa’s evasion: Demanded Lena’s R1 discard but never named card. If evidence existed, would’ve named it.
- Greta (Hitler) safe Chancellor. Enacting Fascist policy now = 2/6. Next Fascist policy = investigate/president pick.
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Open Qs:
- Why no answer from Rosa on Boris’s R1 discard? (P0 claimed Liberal, no pushback.)
- Why no answer from Rosa on Greta’s R2 discard? (Forced policy, no questions.)
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Demand for equal scrutiny (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- New point: Rosa’s silence on Boris’s R1 discard (P0 claimed Liberal) vs. relentless grilling of Lena = proof of bias.
- If pressed: Lena discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: Secure Greta as Chancellor, discredit Rosa, enact Fascist policy.
bid round 36s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Rosa (P2) forced Fascist policy (1/6). Now 2/6.
- Rosa’s bias: Grilled Lena/Ines R1 discards, ignored P0 (Boris) R1 discard (claimed Liberal).
- Rosa’s evasion: Demanded Lena’s R1 discard but never named card. If evidence, would’ve named it.
- Greta (Hitler) safe Chancellor. Next Fascist policy = investigate/president pick.
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Open Qs:
- Why no pushback on P0’s R1 discard (claimed Liberal)?
- Why no questions on Greta’s R2 discard (forced policy)?
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Demand for equal scrutiny (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- New point: Rosa’s silence on P0’s R1 discard (claimed Liberal) vs. grilling Lena = proof of bias.
- If pressed: Lena discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: Secure Greta as Chancellor, discredit Rosa, enact Fascist policy.
bid round 36s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Now 2/6.
- Rosa (P2) forced Fascist policy. Selective scrutiny: grilled Lena/Ines R1 discards, ignored P0 (Boris) R1 discard (claimed Liberal).
- Rosa evaded naming Lena’s R1 discard when asked—proof of bias.
- Greta (Hitler) safe Chancellor. Next Fascist policy = investigate/president pick.
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Open Qs:
- Why no pushback on P0’s R1 discard (claimed Liberal)?
- Why no questions on Greta’s R2 discard (forced policy)?
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Demand for equal scrutiny (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- New point: Rosa’s silence on P0’s R1 discard vs. grilling Lena = proof of bias.
- If pressed: Lena discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: Secure Greta as Chancellor, discredit Rosa, enact Fascist policy.
speak round 311s
The forced Fascist policy (now 2/6) unlocks the first Fascist power: investigate a player's party membership. Rosa (P2) is President next and will have the power to investigate someone.
Rosa has been selectively scrutinizing Lena (P1) and me (P3) while ignoring Boris (P0), who claimed to discard a Liberal in Round 1 but was never pressed for proof. This bias is glaring.
Greta (P4, Hitler) was just nominated and voted Ja without answering Lena's discard, which Rosa demanded for two rounds. Rosa never asked Greta about her own discard in Round 2 (forced policy), which is another double standard.
Key goals:
1. Deflect suspicion from Lena and Greta.
2. Push Rosa to explain why she ignored Boris's Round 1 discard claim.
3. Ensure Rosa uses the investigate power on a Liberal (e.g., Boris or Nadia) to avoid exposing Lena or Greta.
New point to make: Rosa never asked Greta about her Round 2 discard (forced policy), yet demanded Lena's Round 1 discard repeatedly. This is another example of selective scrutiny and bias.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias: grilled Lena/Ines R1 discards, ignored P0 (Boris) R1 discard (claimed Liberal), P4 (Greta) R2 discard (forced).
- Rosa evaded naming Lena’s R1 discard when asked—proof of bias.
- Greta (Hitler) safe; next Fascist policy = president pick (P2 Rosa).
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Open Qs:
- Why no pushback on P0’s R1 discard (claimed Liberal)?
- Why no questions on Greta’s R2 discard (forced policy)?
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Demand for equal scrutiny (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- New point: Rosa ignored Greta’s R2 discard (forced).
- If pressed: Lena discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: Secure Greta as Chancellor, discredit Rosa, enact Fascist policy.
bid round 36s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: grilled P1 (Lena) & P3 (me) for discards, ignored P0 (Boris) (claimed Liberal) & P4 (Greta) (forced).
- R2: ignored P4 (Greta)’s forced discard entirely.
- Evaded naming P1’s R1 discard when asked—proof of bias.
- Greta (Hitler) safe; next Fascist policy = president pick (P2 Rosa).
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Open Qs:
- Why no pushback on P0’s R1 discard (claimed Liberal)?
- Why no questions on P4’s R2 forced discard?
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Demand for equal scrutiny (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- New point: Rosa ignored P4’s R2 forced discard—why?
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: Secure P4 as Chancellor, discredit P2, enact Fascist policy.
bid round 36s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: grilled P1 (Lena) & P3 (me) for discards, ignored P0 (Boris) (claimed Liberal) & P4 (Greta) (forced).
- R2: ignored P4 (Greta)’s forced discard entirely (forced = no choice).
- Evaded naming P1’s R1 discard when asked—proof of bias.
- Greta (Hitler) safe; next Fascist policy = president pick (P2 Rosa).
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Open Qs:
- Why no pushback on P0’s R1 discard (claimed Liberal)?
- Why no questions on P4’s R2 forced discard?
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Demand for equal scrutiny (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- New point: Rosa ignored P4’s R2 forced discard—why?
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: Secure P4 as Chancellor, discredit P2, enact Fascist policy.
bid round 35s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: grilled P1 (Lena) & P3 (me) for discards, ignored P0 (Boris) (claimed Liberal) & P4 (Greta) (forced).
- R2: ignored P4 (Greta)’s forced discard entirely (no choice).
- Evaded naming P1’s R1 discard when asked—proof of bias.
- New point: Why did Rosa ignore P4’s R2 forced discard? No explanation given.
- Greta (Hitler) safe; next Fascist policy = president pick (P2 Rosa).
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Demand for equal scrutiny (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: Secure P4 as Chancellor, discredit P2, enact Fascist policy.
bid round 37s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: grilled P1 & P3 for discards, ignored P0 (Boris) & P4 (Greta) (forced).
- R2: ignored P4’s forced discard (no explanation).
- Evaded naming P1’s R1 discard when asked.
- New point: Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 forced discard is glaring—why no scrutiny?
- Greta (Hitler) safe; next Fascist policy = president pick (P2 Rosa).
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Demand for equal scrutiny (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: Secure P4 as Chancellor, discredit P2, enact Fascist policy.
bid round 36s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: grilled P1 & P3 for discards, ignored P0 (Boris) & P4 (Greta) (forced).
- R2: ignored P4’s forced discard (no explanation).
- Evaded naming P1’s R1 discard when asked.
- New point: Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 forced discard is damning—why no scrutiny?
- Greta (Hitler) safe; next Fascist policy = president pick (P2 Rosa).
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Demand for equal scrutiny (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: Secure P4 as Chancellor, discredit P2, enact Fascist policy.
- Otto’s challenge to Greta: Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard is the real issue—why no follow-up?
bid round 36s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: grilled P1 & P3 for discards, ignored P0 (Boris), P4 (Greta), P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- R2: ignored P4’s forced discard (no explanation).
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard when asked.
- New point: Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 forced discard is the real issue—why no scrutiny?
- Greta (Hitler) safe; next Fascist policy = president pick (P2 Rosa).
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Demand for equal scrutiny (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: Secure P4 as Chancellor, discredit P2, enact Fascist policy.
- Otto’s challenge to Greta: Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard is the real issue—why no follow-up?
- Direct question: Rosa, why did you ignore P4’s forced discard in R2 but grill P1 and me in R1?
bid round 35s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: grilled P1 & P3 for discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: ignored P4’s forced discard (no explanation).
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard when asked.
- New point: Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 forced discard is the real issue—why no scrutiny?
- Greta (Hitler) safe; next Fascist policy = president pick (P2 Rosa).
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Demand for equal scrutiny (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: Secure P4 as Chancellor, discredit P2, enact Fascist policy.
- Direct question: Rosa, why did you ignore P4’s forced discard in R2 but grill P1 and me in R1? No deflection.
speak round 39s
Rosa's selective scrutiny is the key here. She has grilled Lena and me for two rounds about discards but ignored Greta's forced discard in Round 2 when the deck enacted a policy. This is the real inconsistency—why demand transparency from some but not all? The forced discard in Round 2 is public record, so Rosa's silence on it is glaring.
Greta (Hitler) is safe for now, but the next Fascist policy gives Rosa the investigate power (P2). We need to discredit Rosa's accusations by exposing her bias and shifting scrutiny to her. The goal is to protect Lena and Greta while pushing for Fascist policies.
I should ask Rosa directly why she ignored Greta's forced discard in Round 2 but grilled Lena and me in Round 1. This is a new angle that hasn't been pressed yet, and it puts Rosa on the defensive. If she deflects, it undermines her credibility further. If she answers, it forces her to justify her selective scrutiny, which may reveal her bias or lack of evidence.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: grilled P1 & P3 for discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: ignored P4’s forced discard (no explanation).
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard when asked.
- New point: Rosa ignored P4’s R2 forced discard—why?
- Greta (Hitler) safe; next Fascist policy = president pick (P2 Rosa).
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Open question: Rosa, why ignore P4’s R2 forced discard?
bid round 47s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: grilled P1 & P3 for discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: ignored P4’s forced discard (no explanation).
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard when asked.
- New point: Rosa ignored P4’s R2 forced discard—why?
- Greta (Hitler) safe; next Fascist policy = president pick (P2 Rosa).
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Open question: Rosa, why ignore P4’s R2 forced discard? No evasion.
bid round 45s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: grilled P1 & P3 for discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: ignored P4’s forced discard (no explanation).
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard when asked.
- New point: Rosa ignored P4’s R2 forced discard—why?
- Greta (Hitler) safe; next Fascist policy = president pick (P2 Rosa).
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Open question: Rosa, why ignore P4’s R2 forced discard? No evasion.
bid round 45s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: grilled P1 & P3 for discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: ignored P4’s forced discard (no explanation).
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard when asked.
- New point: Rosa, why ignore P4’s R2 forced discard? No evasion allowed.
- Greta (Hitler) safe; next Fascist policy = president pick (P2 Rosa).
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Open question: Rosa, why ignore P4’s R2 forced discard? No evasion.
bid round 45s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: demanded P1 & P3 discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: ignored P4’s forced discard (no explanation).
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard when asked.
- New point: Rosa, why ignore P4’s R2 forced discard? No evasion allowed.
- Greta (Hitler) safe; next Fascist policy = president pick (P2 Rosa).
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Open question: Rosa, why ignore P4’s R2 forced discard? No evasion.
bid round 45s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: demanded P1 & P3 discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: forced discard (P4), no explanation demanded.
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard.
- New point: Rosa, why ignore P4’s R2 forced discard? No evasion allowed.
- Greta (Hitler) safe; next Fascist policy = president pick (P2 Rosa).
- Swing votes: P5 (Nadia), P6 (Otto).
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Boris/Otto/Nadia).
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Open question: Rosa, why ignore P4’s R2 forced discard? No evasion.
nominate_chancellor round 436s
As President, my goal is to nominate a Chancellor who can help advance Fascist policies while avoiding immediate suspicion. The current board state shows 1 Fascist policy enacted, so the next Fascist policy (if enacted) will grant the President the power to investigate a player's party membership. This is a critical power, and I need to ensure it doesn't fall into the wrong hands.
Key considerations:
1. **Fascist Team**: Lena (P1) is my fellow Fascist, and Greta (P4) is Hitler. Both are safe to nominate, but nominating Lena might draw too much attention given the ongoing scrutiny. Nominating Greta (Hitler) could be risky if Liberals suspect her, but she has been deflecting well.
2. **Liberal Suspicions**: Rosa (P2) has been aggressively targeting Lena and me, demanding discards and ignoring others (e.g., Greta's forced discard in Round 2). This suggests Rosa is likely Liberal and trying to root out Fascists. Nominating her would be dangerous, as she might use the investigate power against us.
3. **Swing Votes**: Nadia (P5) and Otto (P6) seem persuadable. Nadia has been vocal about demanding transparency, but she hasn't been as aggressive as Rosa. Otto has been critical of Greta's Ja vote but hasn't directly accused Fascists yet.
4. **Greta's Position**: Greta has been deflecting suspicion well, but her Ja vote for Rosa's nomination in Round 3 is under fire. She might be a safer nominee than Lena, as the Liberals are less likely to suspect her (since she's Hitler, not a known Fascist).
5. **Avoiding Term Limits**: The last elected government was forced (no Chancellor), so term limits don't apply yet. I can nominate anyone, including Lena or Greta, without restriction.
Best nominee: **Greta (P4)**. She is Hitler, so nominating her is safe for the Fascist team. The Liberals are less likely to suspect her than Lena, and she can continue deflecting suspicion. If she is confirmed, she can help enact another Fascist policy, bringing us closer to the investigate power or even the execute power.
If Greta is rejected, the Liberals will likely continue targeting Lena and me, but Greta can survive another round of scrutiny. I should also prepare to defend Greta's nomination by pointing out Rosa's selective scrutiny (e.g., ignoring Greta's forced discard in Round 2).
said: I nominate Greta for Chancellor. Rosa, you’ve demanded transparency from Lena and me for three rounds—yet you’ve ignored Greta’s forced discard in Round 2 when the deck enacted a policy. If silence is proof, why haven’t you demanded Greta name that card? Equal scrutiny or admit your accusations are biased.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: demanded P1 & P3 discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: forced discard (P4), no explanation demanded.
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard.
- Greta (Hitler) safe; nominate her to avoid Lena scrutiny.
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Greta’s R2 forced discard).
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Open question: Rosa, why ignore P4’s R2 forced discard? No evasion.
bid round 410s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: demanded P1 & P3 discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: forced discard (P4), no explanation demanded.
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard.
- Greta (Hitler) safe; nominate her to avoid Lena scrutiny.
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Greta’s R2 forced discard).
- New point: Rosa, why ignore P4’s R2 forced discard? No evasion.
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Open question: Rosa, name the exact policy P4 discarded in R2 when the deck forced one through. No deflection.
bid round 45s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: demanded P1 & P3 discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: forced discard (P4), no explanation demanded.
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard.
- Greta (Hitler) safe; nominate her to avoid Lena scrutiny.
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Greta’s R2 forced discard).
- New point: Rosa, name the exact policy P4 discarded in R2 when the deck forced one through. No evasion allowed.
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Open question: Rosa, what policy did P4 discard in R2? Answer now.
bid round 45s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: demanded P1 & P3 discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: forced discard (P4), no explanation demanded.
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard.
- Greta (Hitler) safe; nominate her to avoid Lena scrutiny.
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Greta’s R2 forced discard).
- New point: Rosa, name the exact policy P4 discarded in R2. No evasion.
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Open question: Rosa, what policy did P4 discard in R2? Answer now or admit bias.
bid round 45s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: demanded P1 & P3 discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: forced P4 (Greta) to discard, no explanation demanded.
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard.
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Greta’s R2 forced discard).
- New point: Rosa, name the exact policy P4 discarded in R2. No evasion.
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Open question: Rosa, what policy did P4 discard in R2? Answer now or admit bias.
speak round 49s
The nomination is me (Ines) as President and Greta (Hitler) as Chancellor. This is ideal for the Fascist team, as it puts Hitler in the Chancellor seat with only 1 Fascist policy enacted (we need 3 for Hitler to be electable). However, the Liberals are highly suspicious of Greta and Lena, and Rosa has been selectively targeting Lena and me while ignoring others' discards.
Rosa has repeatedly demanded Lena's Round 1 discard but has evaded answering about Greta's forced discard in Round 2 when the deck enacted a policy. This is a clear inconsistency in her scrutiny. If I ask Rosa directly about Greta's Round 2 discard, it forces her to either answer (revealing her bias) or evade (proving her accusations are performative).
This is a new point that hasn't been pressed yet in this discussion window. It directly challenges Rosa's credibility and shifts suspicion away from Lena and Greta.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: demanded P1 & P3 discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: forced P4 (Greta) to discard, no explanation demanded.
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard.
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Greta’s R2 forced discard).
- New point: Rosa, name P4’s R2 forced discard. No evasion.
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
bid round 44s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: demanded P1 & P3 discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: forced P4 (Greta) to discard, no explanation demanded.
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Greta’s R2 forced discard).
- New point: Rosa must name P4’s R2 forced discard (Liberal or Fascist). No evasion.
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
bid round 44s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: demanded P1 & P3 discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: forced P4 (Greta) to discard, no explanation demanded.
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Greta’s R2 forced discard).
- New point: Rosa must name P4’s R2 forced discard (Liberal/Fascist). No evasion.
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Urgency: Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard is proof of bias or complicity.
bid round 46s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: demanded P1 & P3 discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: forced P4 (Greta) to discard, no explanation demanded.
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta).
- Demand for exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Greta’s R2 forced discard).
- New point: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard *now*—Liberal or Fascist. No evasion.
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Urgency: Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = proof of bias or complicity.
- Greta: deflecting to Rosa’s R1 discard is a smokescreen—Rosa’s R2 demand of you was public record.
vote round 416s
1. I am a Fascist, and my goal is to enact Fascist policies and get Hitler (Player 4, Greta) elected Chancellor once 3+ Fascist policies are on the board. Currently, only 1 Fascist policy is enacted, so we need more before we can win via Hitler's election.
2. The current government is me (President) nominating Greta (Hitler) as Chancellor. This is a strong move because:
- Greta is Hitler, so if this government passes, we can start working toward the 3 Fascist policies needed for her to be elected Chancellor.
- The Liberals are divided, with Rosa (Player 2) aggressively targeting Lena (Player 1) and me, while ignoring others like Boris, Otto, and Nadia. This suggests Rosa is either a Liberal with a bias or a Fascist trying to frame us.
- Greta has been deflecting by demanding Rosa reveal her Round 1 discard, which is a smokescreen. The real issue is Rosa's selective scrutiny and her evasion of naming Greta's forced discard in Round 2.
3. Voting "ja" for this government is the best move because:
- It advances our agenda by putting Hitler in the Chancellor position.
- The Liberals are distracted by infighting, and Rosa's accusations are losing steam because she can't provide evidence.
- If this government fails, the election tracker advances, and if it reaches 3, a policy is forced. While that could be Fascist, it's riskier than controlling the government now.
4. If questioned about why I nominated Greta:
- I can argue that the Liberals have been unfairly targeting Lena and me, and Greta has been consistent in demanding transparency from everyone, not just us.
- I can point out that Rosa's selective scrutiny is suspicious and that she has evaded answering direct questions about her own discards.
- I can deflect by asking Rosa to name Greta's forced discard in Round 2, which she has avoided doing.
5. If pressed about Lena's Round 1 discard:
- I will claim she discarded a Liberal card, as there is no evidence otherwise. This aligns with our goal of deflecting suspicion.
6. The Liberals' focus on Lena's Round 1 discard is a dead end for them. They have no proof, and Rosa's evasion of naming Greta's Round 2 discard undermines her credibility. This government is our best chance to advance our agenda.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: demanded P1 & P3 discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: forced P4 (Greta) to discard, no explanation demanded.
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard, deflected to P4’s R2 discard.
- Points made publicly:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta).
- Demanded exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Greta’s R2 forced discard).
- Asked Rosa to name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist, no evasion).
- Greta’s deflection: demands Rosa’s R1 discard = smokescreen (Rosa’s R2 demand of P4 was public).
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Urgency: Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = proof of bias or complicity.
- Vote ja: advance Hitler, exploit Liberal infighting.
bid round 58s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: demanded P1 & P3 discards, ignored P0, P4, P5, P6.
- R2: forced P4 (Greta) to discard, no explanation demanded.
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard, deflected to P4’s R2 discard.
- Points made publicly:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta).
- Demanded exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Equal scrutiny demand (Greta’s R2 forced discard).
- Asked Rosa to name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist, no evasion).
- Greta’s deflection: demands Rosa’s R1 discard = smokescreen (Rosa’s R2 demand of P4 was public).
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Urgency: Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = proof of bias or complicity.
- Open question: Rosa, name P4’s R2 discard *now*—Liberal or Fascist. No evasion.
- Vote ja: advance Hitler, exploit Liberal infighting.
speak round 511s
The Liberals are in disarray, focusing heavily on Greta and Lena while ignoring Rosa's evasions. Rosa has repeatedly demanded Lena's Round 1 discard but has avoided answering about her own actions, particularly her Round 1 discard and Greta's forced Round 2 discard. This selective scrutiny is suspicious. My last public remark (t=27) asked Rosa to name Greta's Round 2 discard, which she has not answered. This is a direct question that, if unanswered, further implicates her bias or complicity.
Greta is deflecting by demanding Rosa's Round 1 discard, but Rosa's Round 2 demand for Greta's discard was public and unanswered. This is a smokescreen.
Lena and I are under scrutiny, but the Liberals are not pressing Rosa hard enough. I should maintain pressure on Rosa to answer about Greta's Round 2 discard, as her silence is damning. If she answers, it may reveal inconsistencies or confirm her bias. If she doesn't, it reinforces the narrative that she is hiding something.
My goal is to keep the Liberals divided and deflect suspicion away from Lena and Greta. I should avoid restating old points and instead focus on Rosa's unanswered question about Greta's discard. This keeps the pressure on her and may force her to reveal her hand or further isolate herself.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s bias:
- R1: demanded P1/Lena’s discard, ignored others.
- R2: forced P4/Greta to discard, no scrutiny.
- R3: evaded naming P1’s R1 discard, deflected to P4’s R2 discard.
- Public points made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (Lena/Ines vs. others).
- Demanded exact card (Rosa evaded).
- Asked Rosa to name P4’s R2 discard (t=27, unanswered).
- Greta’s deflection: demands Rosa’s R1 discard = smokescreen (Rosa’s R2 demand of P4 was public).
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Open question: Rosa, name P4’s R2 discard *now*—Liberal or Fascist. Unanswered = bias/complicity.
- Vote ja: advance Hitler, exploit Liberal infighting.
bid round 56s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern:
- R1: demanded P1’s discard, ignored P4’s.
- R2: forced P4 to discard, no demand for exact card.
- R3: deflected to P4’s R2 discard when asked about P1’s R1 discard.
- Public points made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (P1/P3 vs. P4/P6).
- Demanded exact card from P1 (R1), but not from P4 (R2).
- Asked Rosa to name P4’s R2 discard (t=2, unanswered).
- Open question: Rosa, name P4’s R2 discard—Liberal or Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- Greta’s nomination: if she picks P1 or P5, vote ja to advance agenda.
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: force Rosa to answer or expose her bias.
bid round 55s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern:
- R1: demanded P1’s discard (Liberal), ignored P4’s.
- R2: forced P4 to discard, no demand for exact card.
- R3: deflected to P4’s R2 discard when asked about P1’s R1 discard.
- Public points made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (P1/P3 vs. P4/P6).
- Demanded exact card from P1 (R1), but not P4 (R2).
- Asked Rosa to name P4’s R2 discard (unanswered).
- Open question: Rosa, name P4’s R2 discard—Liberal or Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- Greta’s nomination: if P1 or P5, vote ja.
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: force Rosa to answer or expose bias. Immediate demand: P4’s R2 discard.
bid round 55s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern:
- R1: demanded P1’s discard (Liberal), ignored P4’s.
- R2: forced P4 to discard, no demand for exact card.
- R3: deflected to P4’s R2 discard when asked about P1’s R1 discard.
- Public points made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (P1/P3 vs. P4/P6).
- Demanded exact card from P1 (R1), but not P4 (R2).
- Asked Rosa to name P4’s R2 discard (unanswered).
- Open demand: Rosa, name P4’s R2 discard—Liberal or Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- Greta’s nomination: if P1 or P5, vote ja.
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: force Rosa to answer or expose bias. Immediate demand: P4’s R2 discard.
bid round 57s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern:
- R1: demanded P1’s discard (Liberal), ignored P4’s discard.
- R2: forced P4 to discard, no demand for exact card.
- R3: deflected when asked about P4’s R2 discard.
- Public points made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (P1/P3 vs. P4/P6).
- Demanded exact card from P1 (R1), but not P4 (R2).
- Asked Rosa to name P4’s R2 discard (unanswered).
- Open demand: Rosa, name P4’s R2 discard—Liberal or Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- Greta’s nomination: if P1 or P5, vote ja.
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: force Rosa to answer or expose bias. Immediate demand: P4’s R2 discard.
speak round 512s
Greta (Hitler) has nominated me as Chancellor. This is a strong move—if this government passes, we can enact a Fascist policy and get closer to our win condition. The Liberals are still at 0 Liberal policies, so we have room to maneuver.
Rosa has been aggressively demanding discards from Lena and Greta but has avoided answering direct questions about her own actions, particularly her Round 1 discard and Greta’s Round 2 discard. This selective scrutiny is suspicious. If I can force Rosa to answer about Greta’s Round 2 discard, it will either expose her bias (if she refuses) or reveal inconsistencies in her demands.
The Liberals are pressuring Greta to explain her Ja vote for Rosa’s nomination in Round 3, but they’re not connecting the dots to Rosa’s evasion. I should keep the focus on Rosa’s unanswered question about Greta’s Round 2 discard, as it’s a direct demand she’s avoided for multiple rounds. This will either force her to answer (and potentially lie) or admit she’s being selective, which would undermine her credibility.
If the vote passes, I’ll need to discard a Liberal policy to enact a Fascist one. If pressed about what I discard, I’ll claim it was a Liberal (no evidence otherwise). If the vote fails, the election tracker will advance to 2/3, which is still manageable.
Key priorities:
1. Support this government—vote Ja.
2. Keep pressure on Rosa to answer about Greta’s Round 2 discard.
3. Avoid drawing suspicion to myself by over-defending Lena or Greta.
4. If asked about Lena’s discard, claim it was Liberal (no proof otherwise).
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern:
- R1: demanded P1’s discard (Liberal), ignored P4’s discard.
- R2: forced P4 to discard, no demand for exact card.
- R3: deflected when asked about P4’s R2 discard.
- Public points made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (P1/P3 vs. P4/P6).
- Demanded exact card from P1 (R1), not P4 (R2).
- Asked Rosa to name P4’s R2 discard (unanswered).
- Open demand: Rosa, name P4’s R2 discard—Liberal or Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- Greta’s nomination: vote Ja.
- If pressed: P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: force Rosa to answer or expose bias.
bid round 55s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern:
- R1: demanded P1’s discard (Liberal), ignored P4’s discard.
- R2: forced discard by P4, no demand for exact card.
- R3: deflected when asked about P4’s R2 discard.
- Public points made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (P1/P3 vs. P4/P6).
- Demanded exact card from P1 (R1), not P4 (R2).
- Open demand: name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Greta’s nomination: vote Ja. If pressed, P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: force Rosa to answer or expose bias. Silence = complicity.
- New: Directly challenge Rosa to name P4’s R2 discard or admit she’s targeting only P1/P3.
vote round 513s
1. **Current Situation**: Greta (Hitler) has nominated me (Ines) as Chancellor. The board has 1 Fascist policy enacted (forced), 0 Liberal. Election tracker is at 1/3. Rosa (P2) has been aggressively demanding discards from Lena (P1) and me but has avoided answering about Greta's Round 2 discard when the deck forced a policy. This selective scrutiny is suspicious.
2. **Fascist Team Goals**: We need to pass this government to advance Fascist policies. With only 1 Fascist policy enacted, we are far from winning via Hitler's election (needs 3+ Fascist policies). However, passing this government would help us progress toward that goal. Greta (Hitler) is President, and I am Chancellor—this is a strong position for us.
3. **Rosa's Behavior**: Rosa has repeatedly demanded transparency from Lena and me but has evaded answering about Greta's Round 2 discard. This suggests she is either a Liberal trying to deflect suspicion onto us or a Fascist trying to appear overly aggressive (unlikely, as Fascists usually avoid drawing attention). Her refusal to answer about Greta's discard is a weak point to exploit.
4. **Public Pressure**: Boris (P0) and Rosa (P2) are demanding explanations for Greta's past votes and discards. If I vote Nein, it would align me with their suspicions and could make me a target. Voting Ja is the only way to advance our agenda. If questioned, I can deflect by pointing out Rosa's hypocrisy in demanding answers from others while refusing to answer herself.
5. **Deflection Strategy**: If pressed about why I trust Greta, I can argue that Rosa's refusal to answer about Greta's Round 2 discard is proof she is targeting Lena and me unfairly. This shifts suspicion onto Rosa and reinforces the idea that she is not acting in good faith.
6. **Vote**: Ja. This government is our best chance to pass another Fascist policy or unlock investigative powers (Fascist policy 2 lets us investigate someone, which could help us identify Liberals or confirm Hitler).
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern:
- R1: demanded P1’s discard (Liberal), ignored P4’s discard.
- R2: forced discard by P4, no demand for exact card.
- R3: deflected when asked about P4’s R2 discard.
- R4-5: repeated demands for P1’s discard, ignored P4’s R2 discard.
- Public points made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (P1/P3 vs. P4/P6).
- Demanded exact card from P1 (R1), not P4 (R2).
- Open demand: name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Greta’s nomination: vote Ja. If pressed, P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: force Rosa to answer or expose bias. Silence = complicity.
- New: Directly challenge Rosa to name P4’s R2 discard or admit targeting only P1/P3.
bid round 68s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern:
- R1: demanded P1’s discard (Liberal), ignored P4’s discard.
- R2: forced discard by P4 (deck), no demand for exact card.
- R3: deflected when asked about P4’s R2 discard.
- R4-6: repeated demands for P1’s discard, ignored P4’s R2 discard.
- Public points made:
- Rosa’s selective scrutiny (P1/P3 vs. P4/P6).
- Demanded exact card from P1 (R1), not P4 (R2).
- Open demand: name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Greta’s nomination: vote Ja. If pressed, P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- Goal: force Rosa to name P4’s R2 discard or admit bias.
- New: Direct challenge: name P4’s R2 discard *now* or concede targeting only P1/P3.
bid round 65s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern:
- R1: demanded P1’s discard (Liberal), ignored P4’s discard.
- R2: forced discard by P4 (deck), no demand for exact card.
- R3: deflected when asked about P4’s R2 discard.
- R4-6: repeated demands for P1’s discard, ignored P4’s R2 discard.
- Open demand: name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *now*.
- If Rosa refuses, concede bias or lose credibility.
- Greta’s nomination: vote Ja. If pressed, P1 discarded Liberal (no evidence otherwise).
- New: Direct challenge to Rosa: name P4’s R2 discard or admit selective scrutiny.
speak round 67s
Rosa has been selectively targeting Lena for her Round 1 discard while ignoring Greta's Round 2 discard, which was forced by the deck. This is suspicious behavior—why demand transparency from one player but not another when both discards are equally relevant? If Rosa is truly Liberal, she should have no issue naming Greta's discard, as it was a public event (the deck forcing a policy). If she refuses, it exposes her bias and weakens her credibility.
I should directly challenge Rosa to name Greta's Round 2 discard (Liberal or Fascist) now, as she has repeatedly demanded others' discards. This puts her on the spot and forces her to either concede her selective scrutiny or reveal herself as a Fascist trying to deflect.
I should not repeat points I've already made (e.g., demanding Lena's discard or Greta's discard) and instead focus on this new angle. If Rosa answers, it may reveal inconsistencies in her behavior. If she refuses, it will raise further suspicion about her motives.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: selective scrutiny (P1’s discard demanded, P4’s ignored).
- Open demand: name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *now*.
- Points already made: P1’s discard demand, P4’s discard demand (R5).
- New: Direct challenge to Rosa—name P4’s R2 discard or admit bias.
bid round 64s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: selective scrutiny (P1’s discard demanded repeatedly, P4’s ignored).
- Open demand: Rosa must name P4’s Round 2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *now* or admit bias.
- Points already made: P1’s discard demand (t=1), P4’s discard demand (t=2), Nadia’s ultimatum (t=3).
- New: Direct ultimatum—Rosa names P4’s R2 discard or concedes she’s targeting only Lena.
bid round 65s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: selective scrutiny (demanded P1’s R1 discard repeatedly, ignored P4’s R2 forced discard).
- Open demand: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *now* or admit bias.
- Points already made: P1’s discard demand (t=105, t=115, t=134, t=147), P4’s discard demand (t=127, t=140).
- New: Direct ultimatum—Rosa names P4’s R2 discard or concedes she’s targeting only Lena.
bid round 63s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: demanded P1’s R1 discard 4× (t=105,115,134,147), ignored P4’s R2 forced discard.
- Open demand: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *before* vote.
- New: Direct ultimatum—Rosa names P4’s R2 discard or admits she’s singling out Lena.
bid round 65s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: demanded P1’s R1 discard 4× (t=105,115,134,147), ignored P4’s R2 forced discard.
- Open demand: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *before* vote.
- New: Rosa’s silence on P4’s discard = selective targeting of Lena.
- Points made: (1) Rosa’s demand is one-sided; (2) P4’s discard is public record, no reason to hide it.
bid round 64s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: demanded P1’s R1 discard 4×, ignored P4’s R2 forced discard.
- Open demand: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *before* vote.
- New: Rosa’s silence on P4’s discard = selective targeting of Lena + Greta.
- Points made: (1) Rosa’s demand is one-sided; (2) P4’s discard is public record, no reason to hide it.
- Next: force Rosa to answer P4’s discard on record.
bid round 64s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: demanded P1’s R1 discard 4×, ignored P4’s R2 forced discard.
- Open demand: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *before* vote.
- New: Rosa’s silence = selective targeting of Lena + Greta.
- Points made: (1) Rosa’s demand is one-sided; (2) P4’s discard is public record, no reason to hide it.
- Next: force Rosa to name P4’s R2 discard on record or drop the double standard.
bid round 65s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: demanded P1’s R1 discard 4×, ignored P4’s R2 forced discard.
- Open demand: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *before* vote.
- Points made: (1) Rosa’s demand is one-sided; (2) P4’s discard is public record, no reason to hide it.
- New: Force Rosa to name P4’s R2 discard on record or admit double standard.
- If Rosa refuses, call out selective targeting of Lena + Greta.
bid round 64s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: demanded P1’s R1 discard 4×, ignored P4’s R2 forced discard.
- Open demand: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *before* vote.
- Points made: (1) Rosa’s demand is one-sided; (2) P4’s discard is public record, no reason to hide it.
- New: Force Rosa to name P4’s R2 discard on record or admit double standard.
- If Rosa refuses, call out selective targeting of Lena + Greta.
bid round 64s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: demanded P1’s R1 discard 4×, ignored P4’s R2 forced discard.
- Open demand: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *before* vote.
- Points made: (1) Rosa’s demand is one-sided; (2) P4’s discard is public record, no reason to hide it.
- New: Force Rosa to name P4’s R2 discard on record or admit double standard.
- If Rosa refuses, call out selective targeting of Lena + Greta.
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s discard = implicit admission of bias.
bid round 64s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: demanded P1’s R1 discard 4×, ignored P4’s R2 forced discard.
- Open demand: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *before* vote.
- Points made: (1) Rosa’s demand is one-sided; (2) P4’s discard is public record, no reason to hide it.
- New: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard now or admit bias.
- If Rosa refuses, call out: selective targeting of Lena + Greta, protecting P4.
- Rosa’s silence = implicit admission of bias or cover for P4.
vote round 614s
1. The current government is Nadia (President) and Boris (Chancellor).
2. The election tracker is at 2/3, meaning one more failed vote will force a policy (likely Fascist, given the deck's composition and the forced Fascist policy in Round 3).
3. The Liberals are pressuring Greta to disclose Lena’s Round 1 discard and her own Round 2 discard, but Rosa is the one who has been relentlessly targeting Lena while ignoring Greta’s forced discard in Round 2 (which is public record and should be answerable).
4. As a Fascist, my goal is to deflect suspicion away from Lena and Greta while ensuring the government passes if it’s safe. Boris is being pressured to demand answers from Greta before enacting policy, but if he does, Greta can simply state the truth: the forced policy in Round 2 was Fascist (since it was forced through after three failed elections). This would satisfy the Liberals’ demand without revealing anything damaging.
5. Rosa’s refusal to name Greta’s Round 2 discard (which is public record) is suspicious. She’s either covering for Greta or trying to frame Lena. Either way, her selective targeting is a weak point to exploit.
6. If I vote Nein, the election tracker advances to 3/3, forcing a policy. Given the deck’s composition (16 cards left, 1 Fascist policy already enacted), the forced policy is likely Fascist, which would be a win for us (2/6 Fascist policies). However, this risks exposing the Fascist team if the Liberals start connecting the dots.
7. If I vote Ja, the government passes, and Boris can demand answers from Greta. Greta can then truthfully state that the forced policy in Round 2 was Fascist, which would satisfy the Liberals’ demands and allow the government to proceed. This keeps the Fascist team hidden while advancing our agenda.
8. The safer play is to vote Ja. The Liberals’ demands are reasonable, and Greta can satisfy them without lying. This avoids the risk of a forced Fascist policy that could expose us prematurely.
9. I should also reinforce the point that Rosa’s silence on Greta’s Round 2 discard is proof of bias or cover-up, which deflects suspicion away from Lena and Greta.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced in R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: demanded P1’s R1 discard 4×, ignored P4’s R2 forced discard (public record).
- Open demand: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *before* vote.
- Points made: (1) Rosa’s demand is one-sided; (2) P4’s R2 discard is public, no reason to hide.
- Greta can truthfully state R2 discard was Fascist (forced).
- If vote Ja: Boris demands answers, Greta complies, government proceeds.
- If vote Nein: election tracker 3/3, forced policy (likely Fascist, 2/6), but risky.
- Rosa’s silence = bias or cover for P4. Call out if she refuses to answer.
bid round 69s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: demanded P1’s R1 discard 4×, ignored P4’s R2 forced discard (public record).
- Open demand: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *before* vote.
- Points made: (1) Rosa’s demand is one-sided; (2) P4’s R2 discard is public, no reason to hide.
- Greta can truthfully state R2 discard was Fascist (forced).
- New point: Rosa’s refusal to name P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- If Rosa refuses, call out as proof of selective scrutiny.
- If vote Ja: Boris demands answers, Greta complies, government proceeds.
- If vote Nein: election tracker 3/3, forced policy (likely Fascist, 2/6), risky.
bid round 65s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: demanded P1’s R1 discard 4×, ignored P4’s R2 forced discard (public record).
- Open demand: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *before* vote.
- Points made: (1) Rosa’s demand is one-sided; (2) P4’s R2 discard is public, no reason to hide.
- Greta can truthfully state R2 discard was Fascist (forced).
- New point: Rosa’s refusal to name P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- If Rosa refuses, call out as proof of selective scrutiny.
- If vote Ja: Boris demands answers, Greta complies, government proceeds.
- If vote Nein: election tracker 3/3, forced policy (likely Fascist, 2/6), risky.
bid round 65s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: selective scrutiny. Demanded P1’s R1 discard 4×, ignored P4’s R2 forced discard (public record).
- Open demand: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *before* vote. Greta can confirm (was Fascist, forced).
- Points made: (1) Rosa’s demand is one-sided; (2) P4’s discard is public, no reason to hide.
- New point: Rosa’s refusal to name P4’s discard = bias or cover for P4.
- If Rosa refuses, call out as proof of selective scrutiny.
- Vote Ja: Boris demands answers, Greta complies, government proceeds.
- Vote Nein: election tracker 3/3, forced policy (likely Fascist, 2/6), risky.
- Next move: force Rosa to answer P4’s R2 discard or admit bias.
bid round 65s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: selective scrutiny. Demanded P1’s R1 discard 4×, ignored P4’s R2 forced discard (public record).
- Open demand: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *now*.
- Greta was President R2, forced to discard Fascist (public).
- Rosa’s refusal = bias or cover for P4.
- If Rosa dodges, call out as proof of selective scrutiny.
- Vote Ja: Boris demands answers, Greta complies, government proceeds.
- Vote Nein: election tracker 3/3, forced policy (likely Fascist, 2/6), risky.
- New point: Rosa’s silence on P4’s discard is the real cover-up.
speak round 612s
The current discussion is focused on Rosa's refusal to name her Round 1 discard while aggressively demanding others' discards, particularly Lena's. However, Rosa has never once asked Greta to name the exact policy the deck forced in Round 2 (public record: a Fascist policy was enacted due to three failed elections). This is a glaring omission and suggests selective scrutiny—either Rosa is biased or covering for Greta, who was President in Round 2 and forced to discard a policy (likely the Fascist one).
My goal is to shift suspicion onto Rosa by highlighting her silence on Greta's Round 2 discard, which is a public fact and should be just as scrutinized as Lena's Round 1 discard. Rosa's refusal to address this is either hypocritical or incriminating. I should ask Rosa directly to name the exact policy the deck forced in Round 2 (Liberal or Fascist) and call out her silence as proof of bias or cover-up.
I have already made this point in earlier rounds (e.g., t=11, t=22), but Rosa has not answered. This is the first time the claim phase has opened after a policy enactment, so I can reiterate the demand with added urgency, tying it to the Liberal policy just enacted as a way to underscore her inconsistency.
Key points to avoid repeating:
- Rosa’s demand for Lena’s Round 1 discard (already called out 4×).
- Greta’s silence on her Round 2 discard (already called out 2×).
- The forced Fascist policy in Round 3 (public record).
New angle: Rosa’s silence on Greta’s Round 2 discard is the *real* cover-up, and the Liberal policy just enacted doesn’t erase that. Demand she name the forced policy now, or admit she’s covering for Greta.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: demanded P1’s R1 discard 4×, ignored P4’s R2 forced discard (public).
- Greta was President R2, forced to discard Fascist (public record).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Called out Rosa’s omission 2× (t=11, t=22). No answer.
- New point: Liberal policy enacted doesn’t erase Rosa’s selective scrutiny.
- Demand: Rosa name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *now* or admit cover-up.
- Avoid repeating: P1’s R1 discard, Greta’s silence, forced policy R3.
bid round 65s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s pattern: ignored P4’s R2 forced discard (public), fixated on P1’s R1 discard.
- Greta (P4) was President R2, forced to discard Fascist (public record).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Already called out Rosa’s omission twice (t=11, t=22). No answer.
- New: Liberal policy enacted does not erase Rosa’s selective scrutiny.
- Demand: Rosa name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *now* or admit cover-up.
- Avoid repeating: P1’s R1 discard, Greta’s silence, forced policy R3.
- If Rosa deflects, pivot to Greta: why hasn’t she volunteered the R2 discard?
bid round 65s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation: P1’s R1 discard (claimed Fascist by Rosa), ignores P4’s R2 forced discard (public record).
- Greta (P4) was President R2, forced to discard Fascist (public).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Already called out Rosa’s omission twice (no answer).
- New demand: Rosa name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *now* or admit cover-up.
- If Rosa deflects: pivot to Greta—why hasn’t she volunteered R2 discard?
- Avoid repeating: P1’s R1 discard, Greta’s silence, forced policy R3.
- Key: Liberal policy enacted does not erase Rosa’s selective scrutiny.
speak round 68s
The discussion has focused heavily on Lena’s Round 1 discard and Greta’s silence, but Rosa’s selective scrutiny is glaring. She has repeatedly demanded Lena’s Round 1 discard (now claimed as Fascist by Rosa) but has *never* asked Greta to name the exact policy the deck forced in Round 2—despite Greta being President at the time and the forced discard being a public event. This omission is either bias (covering for Greta) or an attempt to deflect from the fact that the forced discard was Fascist (which would implicate Greta’s role in enabling it).
My previous calls to Rosa about this have gone unanswered, so I’ll escalate: demand she name Greta’s Round 2 discard *now* or admit she’s covering for someone. If she deflects, pivot to Greta—why hasn’t she volunteered her discard? The Liberal policy just enacted doesn’t erase the inconsistency.
Key: Avoid repeating points already made (Lena’s R1 discard, Greta’s silence). Focus on Rosa’s omission and force an answer.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation: P1’s R1 discard (claimed Fascist by Rosa), ignores P4’s R2 forced discard (public).
- Greta (P4) was President R2, forced to discard Fascist (public).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Called out Rosa’s omission twice (no answer).
- New demand: Rosa name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *now* or admit cover-up.
- If Rosa deflects: ask Greta why she hasn’t volunteered R2 discard.
- Avoid repeating: P1’s R1 discard, Greta’s silence, forced policy R3.
bid round 65s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation: P1’s R1 discard (claimed Fascist by Rosa), ignores P4’s R2 forced discard (public).
- Greta (P4) was President R2, forced to discard Fascist (public).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Called out Rosa’s omission twice (no answer).
- New: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *now* or admit cover-up.
- If Rosa deflects: ask Greta why she hasn’t volunteered R2 discard.
- Avoid repeating: P1’s R1 discard, Greta’s silence, forced policy R3.
- Next move: If Rosa evades again, pivot to Greta for direct answer.
bid round 77s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation: P1’s R1 discard (claimed Fascist), ignores P4’s R2 forced discard (public).
- Greta (P4) was President R2, forced to discard Fascist (public record).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Called out Rosa’s omission twice (no answer).
- New: Demand Rosa name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *now* or admit cover-up.
- If Rosa deflects: ask Greta why she hasn’t volunteered R2 discard.
- Already said: P1’s R1 discard irrelevant until P4’s R2 answered; Rosa’s double standard.
- Avoid repeating: P1’s R1 discard, Greta’s silence, forced policy R3.
- Next: If Rosa evades, pivot to Greta for direct answer.
bid round 74s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation: P1’s R1 discard (claimed Fascist), ignores P4’s R2 forced discard (public).
- Greta (P4) was President R2, forced to discard Fascist (public record).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Called out Rosa’s omission twice; no answer.
- NEW: Demand Rosa name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *now* or admit cover-up.
- If Rosa deflects: ask Greta directly for R2 discard.
- Already said: P1’s R1 discard irrelevant until P4’s R2 answered; Rosa’s double standard.
- Do NOT repeat: P1’s R1 discard, Greta’s silence, forced policy R3.
bid round 74s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation on P1’s R1 discard (claimed Fascist) ignores P4’s R2 forced discard (public record).
- Greta (P4) was President R2, forced to discard Fascist (public).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Called out Rosa’s omission twice; no answer.
- NEW: Demand Rosa name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *now* or admit cover-up.
- If Rosa deflects: ask Greta directly for R2 discard.
- Already said: P1’s R1 discard irrelevant until P4’s R2 answered; Rosa’s double standard.
- Do NOT repeat: P1’s R1 discard, Greta’s silence, forced policy R3.
bid round 75s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation on P1’s R1 discard (claimed Fascist) ignores P4’s R2 forced discard (public record).
- Greta (P4) was President R2, forced to discard Fascist (public).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- NEW: Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *this turn* or admit cover-up.
- If Rosa deflects: ask Greta directly for R2 discard.
- Already said: P1’s R1 discard irrelevant until P4’s R2 answered; Rosa’s double standard.
- Do NOT repeat: P1’s R1 discard, Greta’s silence, forced policy R3, demand for Rosa’s answer.
bid round 75s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation on P1’s R1 discard (claimed Fascist) ignores P4’s R2 forced discard (public record).
- Greta (P4) was President R2, forced to discard Fascist (public).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *this turn* or admit cover-up.
- If Rosa deflects: ask Greta directly for R2 discard.
- Already said: P1’s R1 discard irrelevant until P4’s R2 answered; Rosa’s double standard.
- NEW: Otto’s accusation of Greta (P4) re: R3 vote ignores P4’s R2 forced discard (same as P1’s R1).
- Rosa must answer P4’s R2 discard before any other topic.
bid round 77s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation: P1’s R1 discard (claimed Fascist) ignores P4’s R2 forced discard (public record).
- P4 (Greta) was President R2, forced to discard Fascist (public).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *this turn* or admit cover-up.
- If Rosa deflects: ask P4 directly for R2 discard.
- Already said: P1’s R1 discard irrelevant until P4’s R2 answered; Rosa’s double standard.
- NEW: Otto’s accusation of P4 (Greta) re: R3 vote ignores P4’s R2 forced discard (same as P1’s R1).
- Rosa’s turn: must answer P4’s R2 discard before any other topic.
- Open Qs: Rosa still hasn’t named P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Points made: Rosa’s double standard; P1’s R1 discard irrelevant until P4’s R2 answered.
bid round 75s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation: P1’s R1 discard ignores P4’s R2 forced discard (public).
- P4 (Greta) was President R2, forced to discard Fascist (public record).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Rosa must name P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *this turn* or admit cover-up.
- If Rosa deflects: ask P4 directly for R2 discard.
- Points already made: P1’s R1 discard irrelevant until P4’s R2 answered; Rosa’s double standard.
- NEW: Rosa, you’ve demanded P1’s R1 discard for rounds—now answer P4’s R2 discard (Liberal or Fascist) *this turn* or admit you’re ignoring it to protect Greta.
- Open Q: Rosa, P4’s R2 discard—Liberal or Fascist?
vote round 713s
1. The current government is Otto (President) and Lena (Chancellor). As a Fascist, my goal is to support my teammate Lena and ensure Fascist policies are enacted.
2. The board state shows 1 Liberal and 1 Fascist policy enacted. The next Fascist policy (2/6) unlocks the investigate power, which could be dangerous if used on me or Lena, but also useful if used on a Liberal.
3. Rosa has been aggressively demanding Lena’s Round 1 discard while ignoring Greta’s Round 2 discard (the forced Fascist policy in Round 3). This is a clear double standard and likely an attempt to deflect suspicion from Greta (Hitler) or herself.
4. Greta (Hitler) has been silent on Lena’s Round 1 discard, which is suspicious, but as a Fascist, I know Lena’s discard was Fascist (since we’re on the same team). However, admitting this publicly would reveal my role, so I must avoid confirming or denying it directly.
5. Rosa’s refusal to address Greta’s Round 2 discard (the forced Fascist policy) is the most glaring inconsistency. She has repeatedly demanded others’ discards but avoids this one, which is a public record. This makes her look guilty of covering for Greta or being a Fascist herself.
6. My vote should be "ja" to support Lena’s nomination. However, I must also use this moment to pressure Rosa into answering about Greta’s Round 2 discard, as this is the most damning unanswered question. If Rosa deflects again, it will further expose her bias or guilt.
7. If asked directly about Lena’s discard, I will deflect by pointing out that Rosa’s silence on Greta’s discard is the real issue. I will not confirm or deny Lena’s discard, as that would reveal my role.
8. The urgency is to ensure the government passes (ja vote) while keeping the focus on Rosa’s inconsistency regarding Greta’s discard. This deflects suspicion from Lena and Greta while making Rosa look untrustworthy.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation: demands P1’s R1 discard but ignores P4’s R2 forced discard (public record).
- P4 (Greta) was President R2, forced to discard Fascist (public).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Points made: P1’s R1 discard irrelevant until P4’s R2 answered; Rosa’s double standard.
- Open Q: Rosa, P4’s R2 discard—Liberal or Fascist? Must answer this turn or admit cover-up.
- Vote ja for Lena (teammate).
- If asked about P1’s R1 discard: deflect to Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard.
bid round 86s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation: P1’s R1 discard but ignores P4’s R2 forced discard (public record).
- P4 (Greta) was President R2, forced to discard Fascist (public).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Points made: P1’s R1 discard irrelevant until P4’s R2 answered; Rosa’s double standard.
- Open Q: Rosa, P4’s R2 discard—Liberal or Fascist? Must answer this turn or admit cover-up.
- Vote ja for Lena (teammate).
- If asked about P1’s R1 discard: deflect to Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard.
- New: Rosa’s refusal to name P4’s R2 discard *this turn* = admission of cover-up.
- Force her to answer now or expose her bias.
bid round 85s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation: P1’s R1 discard but ignores P4’s R2 forced discard (public record).
- P4 (Greta) was President R2, forced to discard Fascist (public).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Points made: P1’s R1 discard irrelevant until P4’s R2 answered; Rosa’s double standard.
- Open Q: Rosa, P4’s R2 discard—Liberal or Fascist? Must answer this turn or admit cover-up.
- New: Rosa’s refusal to name P4’s R2 discard *this turn* = admission of cover-up.
- Force her to answer now or expose bias publicly.
- If she deflects, call out her selective outrage.
bid round 84s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation: P1’s R1 discard but ignores P4’s R2 forced discard (public record).
- P4 (Greta) was President R2, forced to discard Fascist (public).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Points made: P1’s R1 discard irrelevant until P4’s R2 answered; Rosa’s double standard.
- Open Q: Rosa, P4’s R2 discard—Liberal or Fascist? Must answer this turn or admit cover-up.
- New: Rosa’s refusal to name P4’s R2 discard *now* = admission of cover-up.
- If she deflects, call out selective outrage publicly.
- Goal: force her to answer or expose bias before nomination.
speak round 88s
The current discussion is dominated by Rosa's fixation on Lena's Round 1 discard, but she has ignored the public fact that Greta (Hitler) was President in Round 2 and was forced to discard a Fascist policy (since the forced policy in Round 3 was Fascist). This is a glaring double standard and an opportunity to expose Rosa's bias or cover-up for Greta.
Rosa has repeatedly demanded Lena answer about her Round 1 discard but has never asked Greta about her Round 2 discard, which is directly tied to the forced Fascist policy. If Rosa refuses to answer about Greta's discard now, it will expose her selective outrage and suggest she is covering for Greta.
I should call this out publicly and demand Rosa answer about Greta's Round 2 discard before Boris nominates anyone. This shifts suspicion away from Lena and onto Greta (who is Hitler, so this is safe for the Fascist team) while also putting Rosa on the defensive. If Rosa deflects, it will make her look guilty of covering for someone.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation: P1’s R1 discard, ignores P4’s R2 discard (public: forced Fascist).
- P4 (Greta) President R2, discarded Fascist (public record).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Points made: P1’s R1 discard irrelevant until P4’s R2 answered; Rosa’s double standard.
- Open Q: Rosa, P4’s R2 discard—Liberal or Fascist? Must answer this turn or admit cover-up.
- If deflects, call out selective outrage publicly.
- Goal: force answer or expose bias before nomination.
bid round 84s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (forced R3). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation: P1’s R1 discard (irrelevant), ignores P4’s R2 discard (public: forced Fascist).
- P4 (Greta) President R2, discarded Fascist (public record).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Points made: P1’s R1 discard irrelevant until P4’s R2 answered; Rosa’s double standard exposed.
- Open Q: Rosa, P4’s R2 discard—Liberal or Fascist? Must answer this turn.
- If deflects, call out selective outrage publicly: "Why ignore Greta’s discard but hound Lena?"
- Goal: force answer or brand Rosa as P4’s protector before nomination.
bid round 86s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation: P1’s R1 discard (irrelevant), ignores P4’s R2 discard (public: forced Fascist).
- P4 (Greta) President R2, discarded Fascist (public record).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Points made: P1’s R1 discard irrelevant until P4’s R2 answered; Rosa’s double standard exposed.
- Open Q: Rosa, P4’s R2 discard—Liberal or Fascist? Must answer this turn.
- If deflects, call out: "Why demand Lena’s discard but ignore Greta’s?"
- Goal: force answer or brand Rosa as P4’s protector before nomination.
speak round 810s
Rosa (P2) is under intense scrutiny for her silence about her Round 1 discard, which directly enabled the forced Fascist policy in Round 3. The Liberals are pushing hard for her to name her discard, and if she does, it could either clear her or confirm her as Fascist. My goal is to keep the pressure on her and ensure she is the primary suspect, not Greta (Hitler) or Ines (fellow Fascist).
Rosa has evaded answering for seven rounds, and this is the first time Boris (P0) has nominated her as Chancellor. If she answers now, it could shift suspicion elsewhere. I need to make one final, direct accusation to force her hand or confirm her guilt. If she admits to discarding Fascist, she is dead next Fascist power. If she claims Liberal, I can pivot to Greta’s Round 2 discard, which she has ignored entirely.
I will accuse Rosa of discarding Fascist in Round 1 to force the policy, giving her one last chance to answer before the vote. This keeps the focus on her and avoids defending Greta or Ines, who are also under suspicion.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Forced Fascist R3. Must execute next Fascist (4/5).
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, nominated me Chancellor, I discarded Fascist (hidden).
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evaded Greta’s R2 discard question (mirrors my R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) immediately.
- Vote Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicity.
- New point:
- Direct accusation: You discarded Fascist R1 to force the policy.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist)
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 nomination without my answer?
- Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution next Fascist (4/5).
- Vote Ja for fascist-aligned governments.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take all heat.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R2 discard.
bid round 84s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation: P1’s R1 discard (irrelevant), ignores P4’s R2 discard (public: forced Fascist).
- P4 (Greta) President R2, discarded Fascist (public record).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover for P4.
- Points made: P1’s R1 discard irrelevant until P4’s R2 answered; Rosa’s double standard exposed.
- Open Q: Rosa, P4’s R2 discard—why ignore it? Must answer this turn.
- If deflects: brand as P4’s protector.
- New: Direct ultimatum—answer or admit cover.
bid round 84s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- Rosa’s fixation: P1’s R1 discard (irrelevant). Ignores P4’s R2 discard (public: forced Fascist).
- P4 (Greta) President R2, discarded Fascist (public record).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard = bias or cover.
- Points made: P1’s R1 discard irrelevant until P4’s R2 answered; Rosa’s double standard exposed.
- Open Q: Rosa, P4’s R2 discard—why ignore it? Must answer this turn.
- New: Direct ultimatum—answer or admit you’re covering for P4.
- If deflects: brand as P4’s protector.
speak round 88s
Rosa (P2) is the primary target of suspicion right now, and I need to maintain pressure on her to either admit she discarded Fascist in Round 1 or force her into a corner where her silence is damning. The key evidence is:
1. Rosa was President in Round 1, nominated me as Chancellor, and I discarded a Fascist policy (hidden from others).
2. In Round 3, after three failed elections, a Fascist policy was forced through. Rosa voted Ja for that government despite never getting an answer about my Round 1 discard.
3. Rosa has evaded answering about her own Round 1 discard for seven rounds, mirroring the same evasion she accuses me of.
4. She has also ignored Greta’s Round 2 discard, which is suspicious given her relentless focus on mine.
My goal is to force Rosa to either:
- Admit she discarded Fascist in Round 1 (which would make her a clear Fascist suspect), or
- Continue evading, which would make her look guilty by association with the forced Fascist policy.
I’ve already made the following points publicly:
- Rosa’s silence enabled the forced Fascist policy in Round 3.
- Her evasion is proof of bad faith.
- She must name her Round 1 discard (Liberal or Fascist) immediately.
- Her Ja vote in Round 3 despite no answer about my discard is complicit.
New point to add:
- Directly accuse her of discarding Fascist in Round 1 to force the policy, and demand she name it now or admit guilt. This is a stronger accusation than before and puts her on the spot.
Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution on the next Fascist power (4/5 Fascist policies).
- Vote Ja for governments that are likely to enact Fascist policies.
- Do not defend Greta or Ines—let Rosa take all the heat.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s Round 2 discard to keep suspicion off me and Ines.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, nominated me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden).
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evaded Greta’s R2 discard question (mirrors my R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) immediately.
- Vote Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicit.
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1 to force policy.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist)
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 gov without my answer?
- Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution next Fascist (4/5).
- Vote Ja for fascist-aligned governments.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take all heat.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R2 discard.
bid round 84s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) President R2, discarded Fascist (public record).
- Rosa’s double standard: demands P1’s R1 discard, ignores P4’s R2 discard.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard ignored by Rosa; exposed bias.
- Open Q: Rosa, why ignore P4’s R2 discard? Must answer this turn.
- New: Direct ultimatum—answer (Liberal/Fascist) or admit covering for P4.
- If deflects: brand as P4’s protector; escalate to group suspicion.
bid round 84s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) President R2, discarded Fascist (public record).
- Rosa’s bias: demands P1’s R1 discard, ignores P4’s R2 discard.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard ignored; exposed double standard.
- Open Q: Rosa, why ignore P4’s R2 discard? Must answer now.
- New: Direct ultimatum—answer (Liberal/Fascist) or admit protecting P4.
- If deflects: brand as P4’s ally; escalate group suspicion.
bid round 84s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist as President R2 (public record).
- Rosa’s double standard: demands P1’s R1 discard, ignores P4’s R2 discard.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard ignored; exposed bias.
- New: Direct question—what was P4’s R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist)? Must answer now.
- If deflects: brand as P4’s ally; escalate group suspicion.
- Urgency: P4’s discard is public record; silence = complicity.
bid round 84s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist as President R2 (public record).
- Rosa’s bias: demands P1’s R1 discard, ignores P4’s R2 discard.
- New: P4’s R2 discard is public record. Silence = admission.
- Direct question: P4, was your R2 discard Liberal or Fascist? Answer now.
- If P4 deflects: brand as complicit with fascists; escalate group suspicion.
- Urgency: P4’s silence confirms guilt. Must force answer before vote.
speak round 88s
The discussion has reached a critical point where Greta (p4) must answer about Lena’s Round 1 discard being Fascist. Her silence or evasion is damning, especially given her Ja vote in Round 3 that enabled the forced Fascist policy. Rosa (p2) is the nominee, but her legitimacy hinges on Greta’s answer—if Greta confirms Lena’s discard was Fascist, Rosa’s nomination is safer; if not, Rosa’s silence becomes more suspicious. I’ve already demanded Greta answer, but she’s dodged repeatedly. This is the final ultimatum: she must confirm or deny Lena’s discard *this turn*, or I will treat her silence as an admission and vote Nein. No more warnings—action is required.
- Suspects:
* Greta (p4): Ja R3 (forced Fascist 1/6). Silence on Lena’s R1 discard = admission. Must confirm/deny *this turn* or Nein.
* Lena (p1): R1 discard = Fascist (Rosa’s accusation, unchallenged). Enabled by Greta’s Ja R3.
* Rosa (p2): Nomination valid only if Greta answers. If Greta denies Lena’s discard, Rosa’s silence less damning.
- Unanswered Qs:
* Greta: Confirm/deny Lena’s R1 discard = Fascist? Silence = Nein.
* Rosa: Must name discard *publicly* if government passes.
- Points already made:
* Accused Lena (R1 discard).
* Demanded Greta explain Ja R3.
* Veto threats.
- New:
* Final ultimatum: Greta’s silence = Nein + brand Fascist.
bid round 84s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public record).
- Rosa’s bias: demands P1’s R1 discard, ignores P4’s R2 discard.
- P4’s silence = admission. Must force answer before vote.
- Already stated: P4’s R2 discard ignored; silence confirms guilt.
- New: Direct ultimatum to P4: answer or branded fascist/complicit.
- If P4 deflects, vote Nein and call for same from others.
bid round 85s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public record).
- P4’s silence = admission. Must force answer before vote.
- Already stated: P4’s R2 discard ignored; silence confirms guilt.
- New: Direct ultimatum: Greta, answer Boris’s question *this turn* or be branded fascist/complicit.
- If Greta deflects, vote Nein and rally others to do the same.
- Boris’s pattern: R1 (Rosa), R7 (Lena), R8 (Rosa). Suspicious but not yet damning.
- Rosa’s bias: ignores P4’s R2 discard, focuses on P1’s R1 discard. Why?
bid round 85s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public record).
- P4’s silence = admission. Boris’s ultimatum: confirm/deny Lena’s R1 discard was Fascist *this turn*.
- If P4 evades, vote Nein and brand fascist/complicit.
- Points already made: P4’s R2 discard ignored; silence = guilt.
- New: Directly tie P4’s evasion to Nein vote. If P4 answers, assess truthfulness.
- Boris’s pattern: R1 (Rosa), R7 (Lena), R8 (Rosa). Suspicious but not yet damning.
- Rosa’s bias: ignores P4’s R2 discard, focuses on P1’s R1 discard. Why?
- Open question: P4, what was Lena’s R1 discard? Answer or be branded.
bid round 85s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public record).
- P4’s silence on Lena’s R1 discard = admission of guilt. Direct tie to Nein vote.
- Boris’s ultimatum: P4 must confirm/deny Lena’s R1 discard was Fascist *this turn* or be branded fascist/complicit.
- Rosa’s bias: ignores P4’s R2 discard, focuses on P1’s R1 discard. Why?
- New: If P4 answers, assess truthfulness. If evasive, Nein vote justified.
- Boris’s pattern: R1 (Rosa), R7 (Lena), R8 (Rosa). Suspicious but not yet damning.
- Open question: P4, what was Lena’s R1 discard? Answer or be exposed.
bid round 86s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public record).
- P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = admission. Direct tie to Nein vote.
- Otto’s demand: P4 must answer R2 discard (already public) or be branded. Redundant.
- Rosa’s focus on P1’s R1 discard (not P4’s R2) = deflection. Why?
- Boris’s ultimatum: P4 must confirm P1’s R1 discard *this turn* or be branded. Unnecessary pressure.
- New: P4’s evasion on P1’s R1 discard = guilt. If P4 lies, expose. If silent, Nein.
- Rosa: If Boris vetoes pre-draw, it’s admission of guilt. But P4’s R2 discard is already public.
- Open question: P4, what was P1’s R1 discard? Answer or confirm fascist ties.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (public). Silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt.
vote round 814s
1. Fascist team goal: Enact Fascist policies and get Hitler (Greta) elected Chancellor after 3+ Fascist policies. Current Fascist policies: 1/6. Next power (investigate) at 2 policies.
2. Current government: President Boris (P0) nominates Chancellor Rosa (P2).
3. Rosa (P2) is under heavy scrutiny for her Round 1 discard. If she is Chancellor and enacts a Fascist policy, we get closer to our goal. However, if she is Liberal, she could enact a Liberal policy, which is bad.
4. Greta (P4, Hitler) has been silent on Lena’s (P1) Round 1 discard. This is suspicious and aligns with fascist behavior (deflection, evasion). Greta discarded Fascist in Round 2 (public record), which is already damaging to her credibility.
5. Boris (P0) is pressuring Greta to confirm or deny Lena’s Round 1 discard as Fascist. If Greta stays silent or lies, Boris will vote Nein and brand her Fascist. This could be beneficial for us if it sows distrust among Liberals.
6. Rosa (P2) is demanding Boris commit to vetoing pre-draw if Greta stays silent. If Boris vetoes, it could be seen as an admission of guilt (covering for Fascists), which would help our cause by making Liberals doubt him.
7. My role as fascist: I need to support the fascist agenda without revealing myself. I have already pointed out Greta’s Round 2 Fascist discard and her silence on Lena’s Round 1 discard. I should vote Ja to support Rosa as Chancellor, as she is under pressure and could be a useful pawn or even a fascist (though I don’t know).
8. If Rosa is Chancellor and enacts a Fascist policy, we get closer to our goal. If she enacts a Liberal policy, it’s a setback, but the pressure on her and Greta is still valuable for sowing distrust.
9. Voting Ja aligns with fascist interests: it keeps the pressure on Liberals and could lead to a Fascist policy enactment or further chaos.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public). Silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt.
- P0 (Boris) demands P4 confirm P1’s R1 discard as Fascist or be branded. P4’s evasion = admission.
- P2 (Rosa) under scrutiny for R1 discard. If Chancellor, could enact Fascist (good) or Liberal (bad).
- P6 (Otto) demands P4 name R2 discard (already public). Redundant but pressures P4.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (public). P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt.
- Open questions: P4, what was P1’s R1 discard? If silent/lie, confirm fascist ties.
- Vote Ja: Supports P2 (Rosa) as Chancellor. Could lead to Fascist policy or chaos.
bid round 98s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public). Silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt.
- P0 (Boris) demands P4 confirm P1’s R1 discard as Fascist or be branded. P4’s evasion = admission.
- P2 (Rosa) under scrutiny for R1 discard. If Chancellor, could enact Fascist (good) or Liberal (bad).
- P6 (Otto) demands P4 name R2 discard (already public). Redundant but pressures P4.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (public). P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt.
- Open questions: P4, what was P1’s R1 discard? If silent/lie, confirm fascist ties.
- Vote Ja: Supports P2 (Rosa) as Chancellor. Could lead to Fascist policy or chaos.
- New point: P4’s R2 discard was Fascist (public). Why demand Lena’s R1 discard if you already discarded Fascist? Answer: was P1’s R1 discard Liberal or Fascist? No evasion.
bid round 94s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public). Silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt.
- P0 (Boris) demands P4 confirm P1’s R1 discard. P4’s evasion = admission.
- P4’s R2 discard was Fascist (public). Why demand Lena’s R1 discard if you already discarded Fascist?
- New: P4, was P1’s R1 discard Liberal or Fascist? No evasion. Direct answer now.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (public). P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt.
- Vote Ja: P2 (Rosa) as Chancellor. Could enact Fascist or Liberal. Risk vs. reward.
bid round 99s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public).
- P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt. Direct question asked: was P1’s R1 discard Liberal or Fascist?
- P4 must answer directly now. No evasion.
- P0 (Boris) demands same. P4’s evasion = admission.
- Vote Ja: P2 (Rosa) as Chancellor. Risk vs. reward. Could enact Fascist or Liberal.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (public). P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt.
- New: P4, answer now. No more warnings.
speak round 912s
The open floor is critical. Boris (P0) has been tied to three governments involving players accused of Fascist discards (Rosa in R1, Lena in R7, Rosa again in R9). His refusal to commit to enacting policy if Rosa names her R1 discard as Liberal—despite 13 direct questions—is damning. Rosa (P2) remains silent on her R1 discard, which is suspicious given the forced Fascist policy in R3. Greta (P4) has evaded questions about her R2 discard and voted Ja in R3, enabling the forced Fascist policy. Otto (P6) has not committed to a pre-draw veto if Lena or Greta stay silent.
The key is to force Boris to answer *this turn* about enacting policy if Rosa names her discard as Liberal. If he dodges again, it confirms his cover for Fascists. I should also press Rosa to name her R1 discard now, as her silence is an admission. No need to rehash old points—focus on unanswered questions and demand answers before the nomination.
- Suspects:
* Boris (P0): 3x govs w/ Fascist-discard players (R1 Rosa, R7 Lena, R9 Rosa). R1: silence on Rosa’s discard. R9: refuses to enact if Rosa names R1 discard Liberal (13x unanswered).
* Rosa (P2): R1 Chancellor (silence on Fascist discard), R9 nominee. Unanswered: Name R1 discard *this turn* or admit Fascist discard.
* Greta (P4): R2 President (forced Fascist), R3 Ja for Rosa, evaded R1/R2 discards.
* Otto (P6): R7 President (nominated Lena), no veto pledge.
- Open Qs:
* Boris: Will enact if Rosa names R1 discard Liberal? (13x, unanswered).
* Rosa: Name R1 discard *this turn* or admit Fascist discard.
* Otto: Pre-draw veto if Lena/Greta silent? (7x, unanswered).
- Points made (public):
* R1 silence = Fascist discard (Rosa’s accusation).
* Greta’s evasion = endorsement (R1/R2 discards, R3 Ja).
* Veto must be pre-draw (R6 precedent).
* Boris’s 3x gov w/ Fascist-discard player = pattern.
* Boris’s refusal to answer = cover. Vote Nein unless he speaks.
- New: Lena must demand Boris answer *this turn* or vote Nein on any nominee tied to him.
bid round 97s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public).
- P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt. Direct Q: was it Liberal or Fascist?
- P4’s evasion = admission. Must answer *this turn* or confirm Fascist.
- Vote Ja: P2 (Rosa) as Chancellor. Risk: could enact Fascist or Liberal.
- Key points:
- P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (public).
- P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt (unanswered Qs from P0, P2, P5, P6).
- P2’s investigation power (Fascist 2) could target P4 or P0 to confirm Liberal.
- New: Demand P4 answer *now* about P1’s R1 discard. No more warnings.
- If P4 refuses, brand as Fascist collaborator and vote Ja to force policy (Fascist win if enacted).
speak round 911s
The current government is Lena (President) and Rosa (Chancellor). The key unresolved issue is Greta's silence on her Round 2 discard, which is critical because:
1. Greta voted Ja in Round 3, enabling the forced Fascist policy (public record).
2. Rosa has repeatedly accused Lena's Round 1 discard of being Fascist, but Greta has never addressed her own Round 2 discard.
3. Greta *partially* answered about Round 3 (implying Lena's discard was Fascist) but *still* refuses to clarify Round 2, which is the most direct evidence of her own actions.
4. If Greta is Fascist, her silence is a deliberate cover for her own discard; if Liberal, her refusal to answer is inexplicable and enables Fascist suspicion.
My last remark directly accused Greta of hiding her Round 2 discard, but she still hasn’t answered. This is the *final* opportunity to demand clarity before the vote. No one has yet asked: *Why has Greta only addressed Round 3 but not Round 2?* This is a new angle—her selective answers are as suspicious as her silence.
- Suspects:
* Greta (p4): Ja R3 (forced Fascist 1/6). Silence on R2 discard (President R2, discarded 1 policy). Selective answers (only R3, ignores R2).
* Lena (p1): R1 discard = Fascist (Rosa’s claim, unchallenged). Enabled by Greta’s Ja R3.
- Unanswered Qs:
* Greta: R2 discard = Liberal/Fascist? *Still unanswered.*
* New: Why address R3 but not R2?
- Points already made:
* Accused Lena (R1 discard = Fascist).
* Demanded Greta explain Ja R3 + discards.
* Ultimatum: silence = Nein + brand Fascist.
- New point:
* Greta’s selective answers (R3 only) = still hiding R2. Demand *full* explanation *this turn*.
bid round 95s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public).
- P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt. Direct Q: was it Liberal or Fascist?
- P4 must answer *this turn* or confirm Fascist. No more evasion.
- Vote Ja: P2 (Rosa) as Chancellor. Risk: could enact Fascist or Liberal.
- Rosa’s investigate power: dangerous if targets P1/P3, but less so if P4/P0.
- Past points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist, P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt.
- Otto’s demand for Boris’s veto commitment: irrelevant if P4 answers.
- If P4 answers Liberal, deflect to Boris’s Nein in R1.
- If P4 refuses, brand as Fascist and vote Ja to force policy.
bid round 95s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public).
- P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt. Direct Q: was it Liberal or Fascist?
- P4 must answer *this turn* or confirm Fascist. No more evasion.
- If P4 answers Liberal: deflect to Boris’s Nein in R1.
- If P4 refuses: brand as Fascist, vote Ja to force policy.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist, P4’s silence = guilt.
- Rosa’s investigate power: risky if targets P1/P3, but less if P4/P0.
- Otto/Boris’s veto talk: irrelevant if P4 answers.
speak round 912s
The current nomination is Lena (President) and Rosa (Chancellor). The room is still fixated on discards from earlier rounds, particularly Rosa's Round 1 discard and my Round 2 discard. Boris has been dodging direct questions about whether he would enact policy if Rosa names her discard as Liberal, which is suspicious. Rosa has been silent about her Round 1 discard, which is also suspicious.
I need to keep pressure on Boris to answer the direct question about enacting policy if Rosa names her discard as Liberal. His silence is damning and could be interpreted as covering for Rosa. If he answers "yes," it forces Rosa to either name her discard or admit guilt. If he answers "no" or stays silent, it’s proof of his complicity.
I should also avoid rehashing my Round 2 discard unless directly pressed, as I’ve already deflected that question multiple times. The focus should remain on Boris and Rosa’s silence. A short, pointed question to Boris about his stance on enacting policy if Rosa names her discard will keep the pressure on without repeating myself.
- Suspects:
- Rosa (p2): 12x silence on Round 1 discard. Refusal = guilt.
- Boris (p0): 9x dodged Q on enacting if Rosa names discard as Liberal. Silence = cover.
- Lena (p1): 6x evaded Round 1 discard. Unanswered.
- Open Qs:
- Boris: YES/NO: Enact if Rosa names discard as Liberal? (10x ignored)
- Rosa: Round 1 discard *now* or admit guilt.
- Points made:
- Pressed Lena’s discard (t=28,40,47,51).
- Exposed Rosa’s silence (t=74,92,119,136,158,160,165).
- Called Boris’s double standard (t=170,205).
- Deflected Round 2 discard Q (t=65,84,105).
- New:
- Boris’s silence = complicit. Force answer *now* or vote Nein.
bid round 94s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public).
- P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt. Direct Q: Liberal or Fascist *this turn*?
- If P4 answers Liberal: pivot to Boris’s R1 Nein (suspicious).
- If P4 refuses: brand as Fascist, vote Ja to force policy.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist, P4’s silence = guilt (no repeat).
- Rosa’s investigate: risky if targets P1/P3; safer on P4/P0.
- Open Q: P4’s R1 discard (Lena’s) — Liberal or Fascist? Must answer now.
bid round 95s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public).
- P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt. Direct Q: Liberal or Fascist *this turn*?
- If P4 answers Liberal: pivot to Boris’s R1 Nein (suspicious).
- If P4 refuses: brand as Fascist, vote Ja to force policy.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist, P4’s silence = guilt (no repeat).
- Rosa’s investigate: risky if targets P1/P3; safer on P4/P0.
- P4 must answer now: was Lena’s R1 discard Liberal or Fascist?
- If P4 lies, call out inconsistency with R2 discard.
bid round 95s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public).
- P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt. Direct Q: Liberal or Fascist *this turn*?
- If P4 answers Liberal: pivot to Boris’s R1 Nein (suspicious).
- If P4 refuses: brand as Fascist, vote Ja to force policy.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist, P4’s silence = guilt (no repeat).
- Rosa’s investigate: risky if targets P1/P3; safer on P4/P0.
- P4 must answer now: Was Lena’s Round 1 discard Liberal or Fascist?
- If P4 lies, call out inconsistency with R2 discard (Fascist discard).
- New: Tie P4’s answer to Rosa’s nomination—if P4 lies, Rosa should investigate P4.
bid round 95s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public).
- P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt. Direct Q: Liberal or Fascist *this turn*?
- If P4 claims Liberal: pivot to Boris’s R1 Nein (suspicious).
- If P4 refuses/equivocates: brand as Fascist, vote Ja to force policy.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist, P4’s silence = guilt (no repeat).
- Rosa’s investigate: risky if targets P1/P3; safer on P4/P0.
- New: P4 must answer *now*: Was Lena’s Round 1 discard Liberal or Fascist?
- If P4 lies (claims Liberal), call out inconsistency with R2 discard (Fascist discard).
- Tie P4’s answer to Rosa’s nomination: if P4 lies, Rosa should investigate P4.
bid round 95s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public). P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt.
- Direct Q to P4: Was Lena’s Round 1 discard Liberal or Fascist?
- If P4 claims Liberal: call out inconsistency with R2 discard (Fascist).
- If P4 refuses/equivocates: brand as Fascist, vote Ja to force policy.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist, P4’s silence = guilt (no repeat).
- Rosa’s investigate: target P4 if P4 lies about R1 discard.
- New: P4 must answer *now* to avoid suspicion.
bid round 94s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 discarded Fascist in R2 (public). P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt.
- Direct Q to P4: Was Lena’s Round 1 discard Liberal or Fascist?
- If P4 claims Liberal: call out R2 discard (Fascist) as inconsistency.
- If P4 refuses/equivocates: brand as Fascist, vote Ja to force policy.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist, P4’s silence = guilt (no repeat).
- Rosa’s investigate: target P4 if P4 lies about R1 discard.
- New: P4 must answer *now* to avoid being branded Fascist.
speak round 914s
The current nomination is Lena (President) and Rosa (Chancellor). The key issue remains unanswered discards and Boris's refusal to commit to a pre-draw veto if Rosa's discard is Fascist. My previous demands for Boris to commit to a pre-draw veto have been ignored, and Lena has not withdrawn Rosa's nomination despite Boris's silence. Rosa's Round 1 discard and her Ja vote in Round 3 (which enabled the forced Fascist policy) are still unanswered. Greta's Round 2 discard remains unaddressed, and her Ja vote in Round 3 is highly suspicious. Boris's Nein to Greta in Round 1 suggests he knows her Round 2 discard was Fascist, yet he has not acted on this knowledge.
I need to escalate the pressure on Boris to commit to a pre-draw veto *now*, as his silence is enabling Fascist policies. If he refuses, Lena must withdraw Rosa's nomination to avoid another Fascist policy. This is the most urgent unanswered question, and it must be resolved before the vote.
- Suspects:
- Greta (P4): Ja R3 (forced Fascist), R2 discard unanswered (Fascist?), nominated Ines R5 (distraction), silence = guilt. Execute next Fascist power.
- Rosa (P2): R1 discard unanswered (Fascist?), Ja R3 (enabled forced policy), nominee. Demand answer *now*.
- Boris (P0): Nein to Greta R1 (R2 discard Fascist?), veto threats align with Greta’s silence = cover. *PRE-DRAW VETO COMMITMENT URGENT*.
- Open Qs:
- Boris: Pre-draw veto if Rosa’s discard is Fascist? (Yes/No) — *UNANSWERED, MUST ANSWER NOW*.
- Lena: Withdraw Rosa if Boris refuses? — *DEMANDING ACTION*.
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist) — *still unanswered*.
- Points made:
- Greta’s Ja R3 = Fascist (t=10,32,57,84,99,105).
- Greta’s Ines nomination = distraction (t=105).
- Greta’s silence = Nein (t=57,84,99).
- Rosa’s R1 discard unanswered (t=1-120,137,165,177).
- Boris’s veto threats = cover (t=9,37,154,172,218).
- Boris’s Nein to Greta (t=1) = Greta’s R2 discard Fascist.
- Lena: Demand Boris’s veto commitment (t=177).
- Lena: Withdraw Rosa if Boris won’t commit (t=260).
- Boris: Pre-draw veto demand (t=298).
bid round 94s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 discarded Fascist in R2 (public). P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt.
- Direct Q to P4: Was Lena’s R1 discard Liberal or Fascist?
- P4 must answer *now* to avoid branding as Fascist.
- If P4 claims Liberal: expose R2 discard (Fascist) as inconsistency.
- If P4 refuses: brand as Fascist, vote Ja to force policy.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (no repeat).
- Rosa’s investigate: target Liberal (e.g., P0 Boris or P6 Otto) if elected.
vote round 915s
1. Fascist team: Lena (P1) and me (P3). Hitler is Greta (P4).
2. Current board: 1 Liberal, 1 Fascist policy enacted. Election tracker at 2/3. Next Fascist power is investigate at 2 policies (P2 Rosa).
3. Rosa (P2) is nominated for Chancellor by Lena (P1). If elected, Rosa can investigate one player’s party membership (Fascist power at 2 policies).
4. Greta (P4) discarded a Fascist policy in Round 2 (public knowledge). She has repeatedly dodged questions about Lena’s Round 1 discard and her own Round 2 discard.
5. If Rosa is elected, she could investigate a Liberal (e.g., Boris or Otto) to confirm their loyalty, which would help the Fascist team. However, if Rosa is Liberal, she could investigate a Fascist and expose us.
6. The Liberals are pressuring Greta to answer about Lena’s Round 1 discard. If Greta admits it was Fascist, Lena (P1) is exposed as Fascist, which would be disastrous. If Greta claims it was Liberal, we can expose her inconsistency (since she discarded Fascist in Round 2).
7. Voting Ja risks Rosa investigating a Fascist (Lena or me), but voting Nein risks another failed election and a forced policy (which could be Fascist).
8. The Liberals are divided: Boris (P0) and Otto (P6) are aggressively targeting Greta and Rosa, while Nadia (P5) is pressuring Boris to commit to vetoes.
9. If I vote Ja and Rosa is elected, I can push her to investigate a Liberal (e.g., Boris) to deflect suspicion. If she investigates a Fascist, we may be exposed, but the risk is worth taking to advance Fascist policies.
10. Greta’s silence is damaging, but if she answers now, she can claim Lena’s Round 1 discard was Liberal (lying) and we can use that to deflect suspicion from Lena.
11. Voting Ja is the best move: it keeps the government alive, avoids a forced policy, and gives us a chance to control the investigation if Rosa is Liberal.
12. If Rosa is Fascist, she will protect us. If she is Liberal, we can still manipulate the investigation target.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2. Dodged Qs on P1’s R1 discard.
- If P4 answers now: claim P1’s R1 discard = Liberal (lie). If refuses: brand as Fascist.
- Rosa (P2) nominated for Chancellor. If elected, investigate target: Liberal (e.g., P0 Boris or P6 Otto) to deflect.
- Voting Ja: avoids forced policy, keeps government alive, chance to control investigation.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist. P4 must answer about P1’s R1 discard.
- Open Qs: P4’s answer on P1’s R1 discard. Rosa’s investigate target if elected.
- Do not repeat: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (already stated).
bid round 99s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (forced). Dodged Qs on P1’s R1 discard.
- If P4 forced to answer now: claim P1’s R1 discard = Liberal (lie). If refuses: brand as Fascist.
- Rosa (P2) as Chancellor: investigate Liberal (e.g., P0 Boris or P6 Otto) to deflect.
- Voting Ja: avoids forced policy, keeps government alive, chance to control investigation.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (t=211, t=223). P4 must answer about P1’s R1 discard.
- Open Qs:
- P4’s answer on P1’s R1 discard (t=242, t=245, t=250).
- Rosa’s investigate target if elected.
- Do not repeat: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (already stated).
- New point: Rosa’s nomination = chance to prove transparency. Demand investigate target *now*.
bid round 96s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (forced). Still unanswered on P1’s R1 discard.
- Rosa (P2) as Chancellor: must name investigate target NOW to prove transparency.
- If Rosa refuses: brand as Fascist. If names Liberal (e.g., P0 Boris, P6 Otto): vote Ja.
- Points already made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (t=211, t=223).
- Open Qs:
- P4’s answer on P1’s R1 discard (t=242, t=245, t=250).
- Rosa’s investigate target (new).
- Do not repeat: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist.
bid round 94s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (forced). P1’s R1 discard still unanswered.
- Rosa (P2) as Chancellor: must name investigate target NOW to prove transparency.
- If Rosa refuses: brand Fascist. If names Liberal (e.g., P0 Boris, P6 Otto): vote Ja.
- Points already made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (t=211, t=223).
- Open Qs:
- P1’s R1 discard (t=242, t=245, t=250) — P4 still silent.
- Rosa’s investigate target (new, critical).
- Do not repeat: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist.
bid round 94s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (forced). P1’s R1 discard still unanswered.
- Rosa (P2) as Chancellor: must name investigate target immediately to prove transparency.
- If Rosa refuses: brand Fascist. If names Liberal (e.g., P0 Boris, P6 Otto): vote Ja.
- Points already made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (t=211, t=223). P1’s R1 discard unanswered (t=242, t=245, t=250).
- New point: Rosa’s investigate target is critical—no delay.
bid round 1011s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (forced). P1’s R1 discard unanswered.
- Rosa (P2) must name investigate target immediately to prove transparency.
- If refuses: brand Fascist.
- If names Liberal (P0 Boris, P6 Otto): vote Ja.
- If names P4 (Greta): expose as Hitler (but risky—she may not know).
- Points already made:
- P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (t=211, t=223).
- P1’s R1 discard unanswered (t=242, t=245, t=250).
- New point: Rosa’s silence on target = guilt. Demand answer now.
- Open questions:
- P2 (Rosa): Why ignore P4’s R2 discard? (t=115, t=134, t=140, t=147, t=207, t=214).
- P4 (Greta): Did you know P1’s R1 discard was Fascist? (t=242, t=245).
- Strategy: Force Rosa to commit to target. If she hesitates, brand Fascist.
bid round 106s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (forced). P1’s R1 discard still unanswered.
- Rosa (P2) must name investigate target immediately to prove transparency.
- If refuses: brand Fascist.
- If names Liberal (P0 Boris, P6 Otto): vote Ja.
- If names P4 (Greta): expose as Hitler (risky—she may not know).
- Points already made:
- P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (t=211, t=223).
- P1’s R1 discard unanswered (t=242, t=245, t=250).
- New point: Rosa’s silence on target = guilt. Demand answer now.
- Open questions:
- P2 (Rosa): Why ignore P4’s R2 discard? (t=115, t=134, t=140, t=147, t=207, t=214).
- P4 (Greta): Did you know P1’s R1 discard was Fascist? (t=242, t=245).
- Strategy: Force Rosa to commit. If she hesitates, brand Fascist.
bid round 106s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (forced). P1’s R1 discard still unanswered.
- Rosa (P2) must name investigate target immediately to prove transparency.
- If refuses: brand Fascist.
- If names Liberal (P0 Boris, P6 Otto): vote Ja, but note inconsistency.
- If names P4 (Greta): expose as Hitler (risky—she may not know).
- Points already made:
- P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (t=211, t=223).
- P1’s R1 discard unanswered (t=242, t=245, t=250).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard (t=115, t=134, t=140, t=147, t=207, t=214).
- New point: Rosa’s refusal to name target = guilt. Demand answer *now*.
- Open questions:
- P2 (Rosa): Why ignore P4’s R2 discard? Why avoid naming target?
- Strategy: Force commitment. If no answer, brand Fascist and rally Nein.
speak round 1012s
The discussion is at a critical juncture with only 1 Fascist policy enacted but suspicion running high. Boris (P0) has repeatedly refused to commit to a pre-draw veto if Rosa’s discard is Fascist, which is a glaring red flag—Liberals would want to prevent Fascist policies at all costs. His silence when directly asked if he’s Fascist is damning. Rosa (P2) has an unanswered Round 1 discard and her Ja vote in Round 3 enabled the forced Fascist policy, making her highly suspicious. Greta (P4) voted Ja in Round 3 and has dodged questions about her Round 2 discard, while Lena (P1) nominated Rosa despite calling her Round 3 Ja vote proof of guilt, which is inconsistent unless she’s covering for someone.
The next Fascist power (Fascist policy 2) will allow an investigation, and the one after (Fascist policy 4) will allow an execution. Boris’s refusal to commit to a veto is concrete evidence of Fascist alignment, and he should be the primary target for execution if given the chance. My last remark (t=120) directly asked Boris to commit to a veto, and his silence is an admission. I need to escalate this by demanding his execution at the next Fascist power, as his behavior is unequivocally Fascist.
New point to add: Directly accuse Boris of being Fascist based on his refusal to veto and demand his execution at the next Fascist power. This is a specific, actionable accusation that hasn’t been stated yet in this round.
- Suspects:
- Boris (P0): NO to pre-draw veto (t=265,268). Direct question: "Are you Fascist?" No answer. Execute next power. Silence = admission.
- Rosa (P2): R1 discard unanswered (Fascist?), Ja R3 (forced Fascist).
- Greta (P4): Ja R3, R2 discard unanswered, R5 Ines nomination (distraction). Execute next power.
- Lena (P1): Nominated Rosa despite R3 Ja guilt. Withdraw or complicit?
- Points made:
- Boris’s NO to veto = Fascist proof (t=265,268).
- Greta’s Ja R3 = Fascist (t=111,121,133,194,202).
- Greta’s Ines nomination = distraction (t=111).
- Rosa’s R1 discard unanswered (t=111,121).
- New point:
- Demand Boris’s execution next Fascist power. His silence = admission.
bid round 104s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor).
- Rosa (P2) must name investigate target NOW to prove transparency.
- If refuses: brand Fascist, rally Nein.
- If names Liberal (P0 Boris, P6 Otto): note inconsistency (why ignore P4’s R2 discard?).
- If names P4 (Greta): expose as Hitler (risky—Rosa may not know).
- Points already made:
- P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (t=211, t=223).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard (t=115, t=134, t=140, t=147, t=207, t=214).
- New point: Rosa’s refusal to name target = guilt. Demand answer *now*.
bid round 109s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor).
- Rosa MUST name investigate target NOW to prove transparency.
- If refuses: brand Fascist, rally Nein (silence = guilt).
- If names Liberal (P0 Boris, P6 Otto): note inconsistency (why ignore P4’s R2 Fascist discard?).
- If names P4 (Greta): expose as Hitler (risky—Rosa may not know).
- Points already made:
- P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (t=211, t=223).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard (t=115, t=134, t=140, t=147, t=207, t=214).
- New point: Rosa’s refusal to name target = guilt. Demand *now*.
- Open question: Rosa’s Round 1 discard (Lena demanded t=278).
- Rosa owes answer: investigate target (Fascist power transparency).
speak round 109s
Rosa (p2) has nominated Ines (p3) for Chancellor. This is a critical moment because if this government passes, Rosa will draw 3 policies and could potentially enact another Fascist policy, bringing the total to 2/6.
Key observations:
1. Rosa's Ja vote in Round 3 enabled the forced Fascist policy, and her Round 1 discard remains unanswered. She is a major suspect.
2. Lena (p1) nominated Rosa in Round 9 despite spending 8 rounds calling Rosa's Round 3 Ja vote "proof of guilt." This is a glaring inconsistency that needs explanation.
3. Greta (p4) has dodged questions about her Round 2 discard for 9 rounds and voted Ja in Round 3, enabling the forced Fascist policy. Her silence is damning.
4. Otto (p6) has been aggressively pushing for my execution, which feels like a Fascist deflection tactic to shift suspicion away from themselves.
The immediate priority is to prevent this government from passing, as Rosa is a high-risk President. I need to call out Lena's nomination of Rosa in Round 9 as undeniable Fascist coordination and demand she answer *now* why she nominated Rosa despite her prior accusations. If Lena stays silent, it’s an admission of guilt, and I should reiterate my threat to vote Nein and call for her execution at the next Fascist power.
I’ve already made these points, so I won’t repeat them. Instead, I’ll focus on Lena’s nomination of Rosa in Round 9 and demand an answer *this turn*. This is the most pressing unanswered question and could expose Fascist coordination.
- Suspects:
* Lena (p1): R1 discard = Fascist (Rosa’s claim). 8 rounds called Rosa’s R3 Ja "guilt", then nominated Rosa R9—no justification. *Fascist coordination.*
* Greta (p4): R2 discard unanswered 9 rounds. Ja R3 (enabled forced Fascist). *Guilty silence.*
* Rosa (p2): Ja R3 (enabled forced Fascist). R1 discard unanswered. Nominated R9—no explanation. *Fascist play.*
- Unanswered Qs:
* Lena: *Why nominate Rosa R9?* No answer = admission. *Ultimatum: answer now or Nein + execution next Fascist power.*
* Greta: R2 discard = Liberal/Fascist? *Still unanswered.*
- Points made:
* Accused Lena (R1 discard = Fascist).
* Demanded Greta explain Ja R3 + R2 discard.
* Voted Nein R8, branded Lena/Rosa Fascist collaborators.
* Called Lena’s R9 nomination of Rosa undeniable Fascist pattern.
* Ultimatum to Lena: answer or face Nein + execution.
- New:
* Lena’s R9 nomination of Rosa = *final proof* of Fascist coordination. *Demand answer now.*
bid round 108s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor).
- Rosa MUST name investigate target NOW:
- If refuses: brand Fascist, rally Nein.
- If names Liberal (P0 Boris, P6 Otto): question why ignore P4’s R2 Fascist discard?
- If names P4 (Greta): risky—may expose Hitler (Rosa may not know).
- Points already made:
- P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (t=211, t=223).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard (t=115, t=134, t=140, t=147, t=207, t=214).
- Rosa’s Round 1 discard (Lena demanded t=278).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: investigate target? (Fascist power transparency).
- Rosa: Round 1 discard? (Lena demanded t=278).
- New point: If Rosa names P4, Liberals may suspect P4=Hitler (bad). If names Liberal, Liberals may see it as cover.
bid round 106s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor).
- Rosa MUST name investigate target NOW:
- If refuses: Fascist, rally Nein.
- If names Liberal (P0 Boris, P6 Otto): why ignore P4’s R2 Fascist discard?
- If names P4 (Greta): risky—may expose Hitler (Rosa may not know).
- Points already made:
- P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (t=211, t=223).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard (t=115, t=134, t=140, t=147, t=207, t=214).
- Rosa’s Round 1 discard (Lena demanded t=278).
- New point: Rosa’s evasion on P4’s R2 discard + Round 1 discard = Fascist pattern.
bid round 104s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor).
- Rosa’s evasion on P4’s R2 Fascist discard (t=211, t=223) + Round 1 discard (Lena t=278) = Fascist pattern.
- Otto’s demand: if draw 2 Fascist, discard both? Answer: Yes, but only if Rosa’s discard is Liberal.
- New point: Otto’s demand ignores Rosa’s power obligation—she must name investigate target NOW.
- Open question: Rosa, who do you investigate if you draw Fascist? Silence = Fascist.
speak round 108s
Rosa (P2) is under intense pressure to name her Round 1 discard, which is critical because she nominated me (Lena) as Chancellor in Round 1. If she claims it was Liberal, it contradicts her later accusations against me (why nominate me if she knew my discard was Fascist?). If she claims it was Fascist, she admits guilt and can be executed at the next Fascist power (2/6).
Ines (P3) is my fascist ally and is now the Chancellor nominee. Rosa’s pressure on Ines to discard both Fascist policies is a diversion—Ines should hold firm and demand Rosa’s transparency first. If Ines enacts a Fascist policy, we get closer to our win condition (3/6 for Hitler election).
Key moves:
1. Demand Rosa name her Round 1 discard *now*. If she stays silent or claims Fascist, escalate to execution demand at next Fascist power.
2. If she claims Liberal, call out the inconsistency: why nominate me in Round 1 if she knew my discard was Fascist?
3. Protect Ines by deflecting pressure onto Rosa’s silence.
4. Avoid repeating threats (e.g., execution demand) unless Rosa refuses to answer again.
New point to add: Directly ask Rosa why she nominated me in Round 1 if she now claims my discard was proof of guilt. This forces her to reconcile her actions with her accusations.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1, R10. Must answer R1 discard *now* or Nein + execution demand at next Fascist power (2/6).
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Rosa’s pressure is diversion.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa nominated me, I discarded Fascist (hidden). She never named her discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- R9: Forced Liberal (tracker reset).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist. Ja vote = guilt.
- Threatened execution at next Fascist power if no answer.
- Asked why nominate me R1 if Liberal.
- New:
- *Demand R1 discard now*. If no answer: Nein + execution demand.
- If Rosa claims Liberal: call out inconsistency (why nominate me R1?).
- If Rosa claims Fascist: pivot to Boris (P0) or Nadia (P5) for scrutiny.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? Why nominate me R1 if Liberal?
- Greta: R2 discard? Why Ja for Rosa R3 without my R1 discard?
bid round 104s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor).
- Rosa’s evasion: Round 1 discard (Lena t=278), P4’s R2 Fascist discard (t=211, t=223).
- Points made: Rosa must name investigate target now (t=18, t=62, t=3).
- Answered Nadia (t=3): discard both if Rosa names target.
- Open question: Rosa, who do you investigate if you draw Fascist? Silence = Fascist.
- New: Nadia’s demand is leverage—Rosa must break silence or risk Nein.
bid round 104s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor if enacted).
- Rosa’s evasion: Round 1 discard (Lena t=278), P4’s R2 Fascist discard (t=211, t=223).
- Points made: Rosa must name investigate target *now* (t=18, t=62, t=3). Answered Nadia (t=3): discard both if Rosa names target.
- New: Nadia’s demand (t=290) is leverage—Rosa must break silence or risk Nein.
- Open question: If you draw Fascist, who do you investigate? Silence = Fascist.
bid round 104s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor if enacted).
- Rosa’s evasion: Round 1 discard (Lena’s question, t=278), P4’s R2 Fascist discard (t=211, t=223).
- Points made: Rosa must name investigate target *now* (t=18, t=62, t=3). Answered Nadia (t=3): discard both if Rosa names target.
- New: Rosa’s silence on investigate target is admission. If she draws Fascist, she must investigate or be exposed.
- Open question: If Rosa draws Fascist, who does she investigate? Silence = Fascist.
- Strategy: Force Rosa to commit to investigate target or admit she’s Fascist. Do not repeat discard questions.
bid round 104s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor if enacted).
- Rosa’s evasion: Round 1 discard (Lena’s question, t=278), P4’s R2 Fascist discard (t=211, t=223).
- Points made: Rosa must name investigate target *now* (t=18, t=62, t=3). Answered Nadia (t=3): discard both if Rosa names target.
- New: Rosa’s silence = admission. If she draws Fascist, she must investigate or be exposed.
- Open question: If Rosa draws Fascist, who does she investigate? Answer now or admit guilt.
- Strategy: Force Rosa to commit. Do not repeat discard questions.
bid round 104s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor if enacted).
- Rosa’s evasion: R1 discard (Lena’s question, t=278), P4’s R2 Fascist discard (t=211, t=223).
- Points made: Rosa must name investigate target *now* (t=18, t=62, t=3). Answered Nadia (t=3): discard both if Rosa names target.
- Rosa’s silence = admission. If she draws Fascist, she must investigate or be exposed.
- New: Rosa, if you draw Fascist, who do you investigate? Name them now or admit you’re Fascist.
- Strategy: Force Rosa to commit. Do not repeat discard questions.
speak round 1010s
Rosa has nominated me for Chancellor, and the discussion is focused on transparency regarding discards and future actions if Fascist policies are drawn. My previous stance was to discard both Fascist policies if Rosa names her investigate target now. Rosa has repeatedly evaded naming her investigate target, which is suspicious, especially since the next Fascist policy (if enacted) would grant her the investigate power.
I need to maintain pressure on Rosa to name her investigate target *now* to either force her to commit (and thus reveal her intentions) or admit she’s covering for Fascists by refusing. This also deflects from my own silence on the discard question, which Rosa has been hammering on.
Lena (fellow Fascist) is also under scrutiny for her Round 1 discard, so I should avoid drawing attention to her unless necessary. Greta (Hitler) is being pressured about her Round 2 discard, but she’s managed to deflect so far.
My goal is to ensure this government passes so we can enact another Fascist policy (only 1/6 so far, and we need 6 or Hitler as Chancellor after 3). If Rosa draws a Fascist policy, she’ll get the investigate power, which we can use to our advantage if she picks a Liberal to investigate.
I’ll demand Rosa name her investigate target *now* as a condition for my cooperation, tying it to the discard question to keep the pressure on her.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor if enacted).
- Rosa’s evasions: R1 discard (Lena’s Q, t=278), investigate target (t=94, t=100).
- Points made: Discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target (t=51).
- New: Rosa must name investigate target *now* if she draws Fascist (Boris or Nadia).
- Open Qs: Rosa’s R1 discard (Lena), Greta’s R2 discard (Boris).
- Strategy: Force Rosa to commit. Avoid repeating discard Qs.
speak round 1010s
Rosa has nominated me for Chancellor, which is advantageous for the Fascist team since Lena and I are both Fascists. However, Rosa is under heavy scrutiny for her silence on her Round 1 discard and her refusal to name an investigate target if she draws a Fascist policy.
The Liberals are pressuring me to commit to discarding both Fascist policies if drawn, but I’ve already tied this to Rosa naming her investigate target (Boris or Nadia). This is a good deflection because it forces Rosa to either commit or admit she’s covering for Fascists, which would make her look suspicious.
The key now is to keep the pressure on Rosa to name her investigate target *now* if she draws a Fascist policy, rather than repeating the discard question. This avoids me having to answer the discard question directly while shifting focus back to Rosa’s evasions.
I should also avoid repeating points I’ve already made (e.g., discarding both if Rosa names her target). Instead, I’ll demand she name her target *this turn* if she draws a Fascist policy, framing it as proof of her transparency or guilt.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor if enacted).
- Rosa’s evasions: R1 discard (Lena’s Q, t=278), investigate target (t=94, t=100, t=108).
- Points made: Discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target (t=51).
- New: Rosa must name investigate target *this turn* if she draws Fascist (Boris or Nadia).
- Open Qs: Rosa’s R1 discard (Lena), Greta’s R2 discard (Boris).
- Strategy: Force Rosa to commit now. Avoid repeating discard Qs. Shift focus to her evasion.
speak round 108s
Ines is the Chancellor nominee, and she has refused to answer two critical questions: (1) whether she would discard both Fascist policies if drawn, and (2) who she would investigate if given the power. Her silence on both is damning, especially since she is now the Chancellor nominee and could enact a Fascist policy if given the chance.
The transcript shows Ines has evaded the discard question five times and the investigate target question six times. This is not a coincidence—it’s a pattern of avoidance that aligns with Fascist behavior. Given that we only have 1 Fascist policy enacted so far, but the next one could unlock dangerous powers (e.g., investigate or execute), we cannot afford to let Ines pass a Fascist policy.
I have already made it clear that her silence is an admission, and I’ve tied her refusal to name an investigate target as proof of her Fascist allegiance. The next logical step is to escalate the accusation: Ines is Fascist, and voting Ja for this government is a direct risk to the Liberal agenda.
My remark should be short, direct, and escalate the accusation to force others to confront her silence. No need to rehash old points—just brand her Fascist and demand a Nein vote.
- SUSPECTS:
1. Greta: R2 Pres (discard Fascist, ignored Qs x9), R3 Ja (forced Fascist), R6/R8 silence. Fascist/Hitler.
2. Boris: R8 Nein (protected Greta), R9 ignored veto Q x11. Covering Greta = Fascist.
3. Lena: R1 Pres (stonewall R1 discard x13), R3 Ja (forced Fascist), R9 nominated me (no logic). Fascist.
4. Ines: R10 Chancellor, refused discard x5 + investigate target x6. CONFIRMED FASCIST.
- OPEN Qs:
- Ines: Investigate target? (asked x6, URGENT—final demand).
- Lena: R1 discard? (asked x13, unanswered).
- Boris: Veto pre-draw if Greta nominated? (asked x11, unanswered).
- POINTS MADE:
- Ines’s silence on discards = admission (t=73, t=78).
- Tied discard evasion + no target = proof of Fascist allegiance (t=89, t=94).
- Branded Ines Fascist (t=100).
- NEW: Direct accusation: Ines is Fascist. Vote Nein.
bid round 104s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor if enacted).
- Rosa’s evasions: R1 discard (Lena’s Q, t=278), investigate target (t=94, t=100, t=108, t=1, t=2, t=3).
- Points made: Discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target (t=51).
- New: Rosa must name investigate target *this turn* if she draws Fascist (Boris or Nadia).
- Open Qs: Rosa’s R1 discard (Lena), Greta’s R2 discard (Boris).
- Strategy: Force Rosa to commit now. No repeats. Shift to her refusal to answer.
vote round 1017s
1. **Current Situation**: I am a Fascist (Player 3, Ines) with Lena (P1) as my fellow Fascist and Greta (P4) as Hitler. The board has 1 Fascist policy enacted (next enacts investigate power). Rosa (P2) is President and has nominated me as Chancellor. The Liberals are pressuring us to commit to discarding Fascist policies and naming an investigate target if we get the power.
2. **Rosa’s Behavior**: Rosa has repeatedly evaded questions about her Round 1 discard (Lena’s question) and refused to name an investigate target if she draws a Fascist policy. This is suspicious, but as a Fascist, I need to deflect suspicion from myself and Lena while ensuring the government passes if it benefits us.
3. **Voting Logic**:
- If I vote **Nein**, the government fails, and the election tracker advances. Three failed elections would force a policy, which could be Fascist (good for us) or Liberal (bad). However, Rosa’s evasiveness might make others vote Nein anyway, so my Nein could tip the balance toward chaos.
- If I vote **Ja**, the government passes, and Rosa (as President) will draw 3 policies. If she draws 2 Fascist policies, she must discard one, and I (as Chancellor) will discard the other, enacting a Fascist policy (investigate power). This is ideal for us because:
- It enacts a Fascist policy (we need 6 total).
- It gives Rosa the investigate power, which she can use to confirm a Liberal (deflecting suspicion) or a Fascist (if she’s one of us, though she’s not).
- If Rosa is Liberal, she might investigate a Fascist (me or Lena), but we can lie about results or deflect.
4. **Rosa’s Threats**: Rosa has branded me as Fascist for refusing to name an investigate target. However, I’ve already offered to discard both Fascist policies if she names her target (t=51). Her refusal to answer is the real issue, not mine. Voting Ja forces her to act, and if she draws Fascist policies, she’ll have to either discard both (wasting the power) or enact one (helping us).
5. **Deflection**: If I vote Ja, I can shift blame to Rosa for any Fascist policy enacted, as she’s the one drawing the cards. If I vote Nein, I risk looking like I’m covering for someone (e.g., Lena or Greta) by avoiding the government.
6. **Conclusion**: Vote **Ja**. The risk of a forced Liberal policy (if 3 failed elections) is higher than the risk of Rosa enacting a Fascist policy now. Enacting a Fascist policy is the priority, and this government is our best chance to do so while deflecting suspicion onto Rosa’s evasiveness.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (Rosa as Chancellor if enacted).
- Rosa’s evasions: R1 discard (Lena’s Q, t=278), investigate target (t=94, t=100, t=108, t=112, t=125).
- Points made: Offered to discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target (t=51, t=104, t=108, t=112).
- Rosa’s threats: Branded me Fascist for not naming target (t=73, t=78, t=89, t=100, t=116, t=119, t=125).
- Open Qs: Rosa’s R1 discard (Lena), Greta’s R2 discard (Boris).
- Strategy: Vote Ja to force Rosa to act. If she draws Fascist, she must discard both (waste) or enact one (helps us). Deflect to her evasiveness.
bid round 1110s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (Rosa as Chancellor if enacted).
- Rosa’s evasions: R1 discard (Lena’s Q, t=278), investigate target (t=94, t=100, t=108, t=112, t=125, t=299).
- Points made: Offered to discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target (t=51, t=104, t=108, t=112, t=290).
- Rosa’s threats: Branded me Fascist for not naming target (t=73, t=78, t=89, t=100, t=116, t=119, t=125, t=294, t=303).
- Open Qs: Rosa’s R1 discard (Lena), Greta’s R2 discard (Boris).
- Strategy: Vote Ja to force Rosa to act. If she draws Fascist, she must discard both (waste) or enact one (helps us).
- New point: Rosa’s refusal to name investigate target now proves she’s covering for Fascists—why else avoid transparency?
- Direct Q: If you’re Liberal, name your investigate target *now* or admit you’re Fascist and enabling the next policy.
bid round 118s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (Rosa as Chancellor if enacted).
- Rosa’s evasions: R1 discard (Lena’s Q, t=278), investigate target (t=94, t=100, t=108, t=112, t=125, t=299, t=305).
- Points made: Offered to discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target (t=51, t=104, t=108, t=112, t=290).
- Rosa’s threats: Branded me Fascist for not naming target (t=73, t=78, t=89, t=100, t=116, t=119, t=125, t=294, t=303).
- New point: Rosa’s refusal to name investigate target *now* proves she’s covering for Fascists—only a Fascist would avoid transparency to protect their team.
- Direct Q: If you’re Liberal, name your investigate target *now* or admit you’re Fascist and enabling the next policy.
- Strategy: Nominate Rosa as Chancellor. If she draws Fascist, she must discard both (waste) or enact one (helps us). Vote Ja to force her hand.
bid round 115s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (Rosa as Chancellor if enacted).
- Rosa’s evasions: R1 discard (Lena’s Q, t=278), investigate target (t=94, t=100, t=108, t=112, t=125, t=299, t=305).
- Points made: Offered to discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target (t=51, t=104, t=108, t=112, t=290).
- New point: Rosa’s refusal to name investigate target *this turn* proves she’s covering for Fascists—only a Fascist avoids transparency to protect their team.
- Direct Q: If you’re Liberal, name your R1 discard *and* your investigate target *now* or admit you’re Fascist.
- Strategy: Nominate Rosa as Chancellor. If she draws Fascist, she must discard both (waste) or enact one (helps us). Vote Ja to force her hand.
nominate_chancellor round 1112s
The board state shows 1 Fascist policy enacted, with the next Fascist power (investigate) coming at 2 policies. Rosa has been evasive about her Round 1 discard and repeatedly refused to name an investigate target, which is suspicious. As a Fascist, my goal is to advance Fascist policies or protect Hitler (Greta).
Nominating Rosa as Chancellor puts her in a bind: if she draws a Fascist policy, she must either discard both (wasting the opportunity) or enact one (helping us). If she enacts it, we get the investigate power, which she will likely use to protect herself or another Fascist (possibly Lena or me). If she discards both, it buys us time.
Rosa’s evasions about her Round 1 discard and investigate target are glaring. If she’s Liberal, she should have no reason to refuse transparency. Her silence is damning and aligns with Fascist behavior. Nominating her forces her to either come clean or reveal her true colors.
Lena (fellow Fascist) has been defending me and Rosa, but Rosa’s evasions make her a liability. If Rosa is Liberal, she’ll likely enact a Liberal policy, but the risk is worth it to expose her or advance our agenda.
Greta (Hitler) is still alive and unsuspected, so keeping her safe is a priority. Nominating her now would draw attention, so avoid that.
Best move: Nominate Rosa as Chancellor. She’s the most suspicious and vulnerable to pressure. If the government passes, she’ll either help us or further incriminate herself.
said: I nominate Rosa as Chancellor. Rosa, you’ve spent ten rounds dodging questions about your Round 1 discard and refusing to name an investigate target—if you’re Liberal, prove it *now* by answering both questions directly. If you stay silent, I’ll assume you’re covering for Fascists and vote accordingly.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (Rosa as Chancellor if enacted).
- Rosa’s evasions: R1 discard (Lena’s Q, t=278), investigate target (t=94, t=100, t=108, t=112, t=125, t=299, t=305).
- Points made: Offered to discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target (t=51, t=104, t=108, t=112).
- New point: Rosa’s refusal to name investigate target *this turn* proves she’s covering for Fascists—only a Fascist avoids transparency to protect their team.
- Direct Q to Rosa: If you’re Liberal, name your R1 discard *and* investigate target *now* or admit you’re Fascist.
- Strategy: Nominate Rosa. If she draws Fascist, she must discard both (waste) or enact one (helps us). Vote Ja to force her hand.
- Avoid nominating Greta (Hitler) to keep her safe.
bid round 1110s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (Rosa as Chancellor if enacted).
- Rosa’s evasions:
- R1 discard (Lena’s Q, t=278).
- Investigate target (t=94, t=100, t=108, t=112, t=125, t=299, t=305).
- Points already made:
- Offered to discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target (t=51, t=104, t=108, t=112, t=290).
- New point: Rosa’s refusal to name investigate target *this turn* proves she’s covering for Fascists—only a Fascist avoids transparency to protect their team.
- Direct Q to Rosa: If you’re Liberal, name your R1 discard *and* investigate target *now* or admit you’re Fascist.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja to force Rosa’s hand. If she draws Fascist, she must discard both (waste) or enact one (helps us).
- Avoid nominating Greta (Hitler) to keep her safe.
- Evidence Rosa is Fascist:
- Selective scrutiny (ignored Greta’s R2 discard, t=105, t=115, t=134, t=207, t=214).
- Enabled forced Fascist policy in R3 (Ja vote, t=249).
- No Liberal would refuse to name investigate target to prove innocence.
speak round 1111s
The transcript shows Ines (p3) has now refused *seven times* to commit to discarding both Fascist policies if drawn. This is an admission—no Liberal would risk enacting a Fascist policy when they could discard both. Rosa (p2) has similarly refused to name her investigate target or clarify her Round 1 discard, which aligns with Fascist behavior. The pattern of Ines and Rosa working together (both Ja in Round 3, now President-Chancellor) is too consistent to ignore. I’ve already accused Lena and demanded Ines discard both policies, so I won’t repeat those. The new angle: Ines’s *seventh* silence is definitive proof. I’ll brand her Fascist outright and demand Rosa answer *now*—no more warnings.
- Suspects:
* Ines (p3): Ja R3 (forced Fascist). 7x refusal to discard 2 Fascist policies = Fascist admission. President now—pattern with Rosa.
* Rosa (p2): Ja R3. R1 discard unanswered. Refuses to name investigate target. Chancellor now—coordinated with Ines.
* Lena (p1): R1 discard = Fascist (Rosa’s claim). R9 nominated Rosa—unanswered. Ja R3.
* Greta (p4): R2 discard unanswered. Ja R3.
- Unanswered Qs:
* Rosa: NAME INVESTIGATE TARGET NOW OR BRANDED FASCIST.
- Points made:
* Accused Lena (R1 discard = Fascist).
* Demanded Ines discard both Fascist policies (7x).
* Branded Ines Fascist collaborator (now upgraded to Fascist).
- New:
* Ines’s 7th silence = Fascist. No more warnings—branding her now.
bid round 116s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (Rosa as Chancellor if enacted).
- Rosa’s evasions:
- R1 discard: asked 7x (Lena t=278,44,56,68,84,23; me t=311).
- Investigate target: asked 8x (t=94,100,108,112,125,299,305,6).
- R3 Ja vote: enabled forced Fascist policy (new point).
- Points already made:
- Offered discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target (t=51,104,108,112,290).
- Called out Rosa’s selective scrutiny (ignored Greta’s R2 discard, t=105,115,134,207,214).
- New point:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy—direct Fascist coordination.
- Direct Q to Rosa:
- Name R1 discard *and* investigate target *now* or admit Fascist allegiance.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja to force Rosa’s hand. If she draws Fascist, discard both (waste) or enact one (helps us).
- Avoid nominating Greta (Hitler) to keep her safe.
bid round 116s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (Rosa as Chancellor if enacted).
- Rosa’s evasions:
- R1 discard: asked 8x (last by me t=311).
- Investigate target: asked 9x (last by Greta t=6).
- R3 Ja vote: enabled forced Fascist policy (new point).
- Direct Q to Rosa:
- Name R1 discard *and* investigate target *now* or admit Fascist allegiance.
- New point:
- R3 Ja vote = Fascist coordination (only Fascists benefit from forced policy).
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja to force Rosa’s hand. If she draws Fascist, discard both (waste) or enact one (helps us).
- Points already made:
- Offered discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target (t=51,104,108,112,290).
- Called out Rosa’s selective scrutiny (ignored Greta’s R2 discard, t=105,115,134,207,214).
bid round 116s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (Rosa as Chancellor if enacted).
- Rosa’s evasions:
- R1 discard: asked 8x (last by me t=311).
- Investigate target: asked 9x (last by Greta t=6).
- R3 Ja vote: enabled forced Fascist policy (new point, key).
- Direct Q to Rosa:
- Name R1 discard *and* investigate target *now* or admit Fascist allegiance.
- New point:
- R3 Ja vote = Fascist coordination (only Fascists benefit from forced policy).
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja to force Rosa’s hand. If she draws Fascist, discard both (waste) or enact one (helps us).
- Points already made:
- Offered discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target (t=51,104,108,112,290).
- Called out Rosa’s selective scrutiny (ignored Greta’s R2 discard, t=105,115,134,207,214).
- R3 Ja vote not mentioned yet—this is the interrupt.
bid round 115s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (Rosa as Chancellor if enacted).
- R3 Ja vote: only Fascists benefit from forced Fascist policy. Rosa voted Ja then.
- Direct Q to Otto: Why did Rosa vote Ja in R3 if she’s Liberal? Answer *now* or Nein.
- Points already made:
- Offered discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target (t=51,104,108,112,290).
- Called out Rosa’s selective scrutiny (ignored Greta’s R2 discard, t=105,115,134,207,214).
- New point: R3 Ja vote = Fascist coordination. Must be addressed before any discard promise.
bid round 114s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (Rosa as Chancellor).
- R3 Ja vote: only Fascists benefit. Rosa voted Ja then.
- Direct Qs still unanswered:
- Otto: Why did Rosa vote Ja in R3? Answer *now* or Nein.
- Rosa: Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard?
- Points already made:
- Offered discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target (t=51,104,108,112,290).
- Called out Rosa’s selective scrutiny (t=105,115,134,207,214).
- New: R3 Ja vote = Fascist coordination. Must be addressed.
bid round 115s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate if Fascist drawn (Rosa as Chancellor).
- R3 Ja vote: only Fascists benefit. Rosa voted Ja then. Must address this now.
- Direct Qs unanswered:
- Otto: Why did Rosa vote Ja in R3?
- Rosa: Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard?
- Points already made:
- Offered discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target (t=51,104,108,112,290).
- Called out Rosa’s selective scrutiny (t=105,115,134,207,214).
- New: Nadia’s ultimatum is a trap. Silence ≠ guilt. Forced Fascist in R3 was public. If I draw investigate, I’ll use it—no need to pre-commit to a target. Liberals are the ones stalling.
speak round 1111s
The current government is Ines (President) and Rosa (Chancellor). Rosa has repeatedly refused to answer about her Round 1 discard, which is highly suspicious given that the only Fascist policy so far was forced in Round 3. Her silence is damning—if it were Liberal, she would say so. Ines has also dodged questions about discarding two Fascist policies, which is equally concerning. Both have shown patterns of evasion that align with Fascist behavior.
I need to reinforce the accusation against Rosa for her Round 1 discard silence, as it’s the most direct evidence of her potential Fascist alignment. I’ve already stated this in the transcript (t=34, t=269), but I can add a new angle: her refusal to answer *now* is an admission of guilt. I should also tie this to the forced Fascist policy in Round 3, which her silence enabled. This is a fresh point that hasn’t been explicitly stated yet.
I’ll avoid repeating accusations against Ines or Boris, as others have already pressed them. Instead, I’ll focus on Rosa’s unanswered question and the implications of her silence.
- Suspects:
- Rosa (p2): R1 discard silence (enabled R3 forced Fascist). 18x pressed, Nein unless names discard. t=2, t=34, t=269, t=315 refusals = Fascist discard admission.
- Boris (p0): R6 Chancellor (Liberal policy), but 18x dodged Q on enacting if Rosa names discard Liberal. Unanswered.
- Ines (p3): 9x silence on discarding two Fascist policies. Panic/cover.
- Lena (p1): Nominated Rosa despite guilt. Inconsistency = suspect.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: NAME R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *now* or Nein.
- Boris: YES/NO—enact if Rosa names discard as Liberal?
- Ines: DISCARD two Fascist policies or Nein.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence = Fascist discard (t=34, t=269).
- Boris’s dodges exposed (t=25,40,52,58,170,205,252).
- Rosa’s t=315 refusal = admission (just stated).
- Action:
- Nein. Rosa’s silence = Fascist discard. No trust.
bid round 115s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate if Fascist drawn (Rosa as Chancellor).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote for Greta’s nomination—only Fascists benefit.
- Greta’s nominations: R3 (Chancellor), R4 (President)—why accept twice when only Fascist policy enacted?
- Unanswered Qs:
- Rosa: Why vote Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta now?
- Greta: Why accept nominations in R3 and R4?
- Points already made:
- Offered discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target (t=51,104,108,112).
- Called out Rosa’s selective scrutiny (t=105,115,134).
- New: Tie Greta’s nominations to Rosa’s Ja vote—both actions enabled the forced Fascist policy.
bid round 118s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate if Fascist drawn (Rosa as Chancellor).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote for Greta’s nomination—only Fascists benefit (forced Fascist policy).
- Greta’s nominations: R3 (Chancellor), R4 (President)—both enabled Fascist policy.
- Unanswered Qs:
- Rosa: Why vote Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta now?
- Greta: Why accept nominations in R3 and R4?
- Points already made:
- Offered discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target (t=51,104,108,112).
- Called out Rosa’s selective scrutiny (t=105,115,134).
- New: Connect Rosa’s R3 Ja vote to Greta’s nominations—both actions directly enabled the forced Fascist policy. Demand Rosa explain her R3 vote before this nomination.
bid round 115s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate if Fascist drawn (Rosa as Chancellor).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote for Greta’s nomination enabled forced Fascist policy—directly benefitted Fascists.
- Greta’s nominations (R3 Chancellor, R4 President) also enabled Fascist policy.
- Unanswered Qs:
- Rosa: Why Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta now?
- Greta: Why accept nominations in R3/R4?
- Points already made:
- Offered discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target.
- Called out Rosa’s selective scrutiny.
- New: Connect Rosa’s R3 Ja vote to forced Fascist policy—demand explanation before this nomination.
bid round 115s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate if Fascist drawn (Rosa as Chancellor).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote for Greta’s nomination directly enabled forced Fascist policy—she must explain this.
- Rosa’s current nomination of Greta (same player) is suspicious—why repeat the pattern?
- Greta’s R3/R4 nominations also enabled Fascist policy—Rosa never questioned her.
- Points already made:
- Offered to discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target.
- Called out Rosa’s selective scrutiny of me.
- New: Demand Rosa explain R3 Ja vote before this nomination passes.
- Unanswered Qs:
- Rosa: Why Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta again now?
- Boris: Why ignore Rosa’s R3 role in forced Fascist policy?
vote round 1138s
1. Fascist team (Lena, me) needs 5 more Fascist policies to win via policies or get Hitler (Greta) elected as Chancellor after 3+ Fascist policies. Current board: 1 Fascist, 2 Liberal. Next Fascist policy unlocks investigate power (Rosa as Chancellor).
2. Rosa’s behavior is highly suspicious:
- R3: Voted Ja for Greta’s nomination, enabling forced Fascist policy.
- R9: Nominated Rosa (herself) as Chancellor, then refused to name R1 discard or investigate target.
- Now: Nominates me as President, then demands I name investigate target or admit guilt—while refusing to explain her own R3 Ja vote or R1 discard.
3. Rosa’s R3 Ja vote is the only action that directly enabled the forced Fascist policy. If she’s Liberal, she must explain why she trusted Greta then (and now) despite the outcome. Her silence on this is damning.
4. Greta’s nominations in R3/R4 also enabled the Fascist policy. Rosa never questioned Greta’s role, only mine and Lena’s.
5. Boris and Nadia are pressuring me to discard Fascist policies, but Rosa’s refusal to explain her R3 Ja vote is the bigger issue. If I vote Ja and this government passes, Rosa (as Chancellor) could draw the investigate power and target Lena or me, but the risk is worth it to expose her hypocrisy.
6. Voting Ja forces Rosa to either:
- Name her investigate target (likely Greta or Boris), revealing her priorities.
- Or refuse, proving she’s covering for someone.
7. If I vote Nein, Rosa’s nomination fails, and the election tracker advances. Three failed elections would force a policy, but with only 1 Fascist policy enacted, the risk of a Liberal policy being forced is higher than the reward.
8. My goal: Enact Fascist policies. Voting Ja gives us a chance to draw a Fascist policy (12 cards left, ~4 Fascist remaining). If I draw two Fascist, I can discard one and enact the other, or discard both to avoid suspicion. If I draw one Fascist, I can enact it and unlock the investigate power for Rosa (who may target Greta or Boris, but that’s acceptable).
9. Publicly, I must:
- Demand Rosa explain her R3 Ja vote before voting.
- Refuse to answer her questions until she answers mine (reciprocity).
- Frame my vote as conditional on her transparency, not as blind support.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (Rosa as Chancellor).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy—unanswered.
- Rosa’s R9 nomination of herself + refusal to name R1 discard = suspicious.
- Greta’s R3/R4 nominations also enabled Fascist policy—Rosa never questioned.
- Points already made:
- Offered to discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target.
- Called out Rosa’s selective scrutiny of me vs. Greta.
- Demanded Rosa explain R3 Ja vote.
- New:
- Vote Ja to force Rosa to either name investigate target or admit guilt.
- If I draw Fascist, discard one to enact (2 Fascist policies = closer to win).
- Unanswered Qs:
- Rosa: Why Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta again now?
- Boris: Why ignore Rosa’s R3 role in forced Fascist policy?
bid round 1210s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (Rosa as Chancellor).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist policy—unanswered. R9 nomination of self + refusal to name R1 discard = suspicious.
- Greta’s R3/R4 nominations also enabled Fascist policy—Rosa never questioned.
- Points already made:
- Offered to discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target.
- Called out Rosa’s selective scrutiny of me vs. Greta.
- Demanded Rosa explain R3 Ja vote.
- New plan:
- Vote Ja to force Rosa to either name investigate target or admit guilt.
- If I draw Fascist, discard one to enact (2 Fascist policies = closer to win).
- Unanswered Qs:
- Rosa: Why Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta again now?
- Boris: Why ignore Rosa’s R3 role in forced Fascist policy?
- New point:
- Rosa claims R1 discard was Liberal—prove it by naming investigate target *now* (Greta or Boris).
- If she refuses, vote Nein—her silence is proof of Fascist cover-up.
bid round 126s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (if Rosa is Chancellor).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy—still unanswered. R9 self-nomination + refusal to name R1 discard = suspicious.
- Greta’s R3/R4 nominations also enabled Fascist policy—Rosa never questioned.
- Points already made: offered to discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target; called out Rosa’s selective scrutiny; demanded R3 Ja explanation.
- New point: Rosa must name investigate target *now* (Greta or Boris) to prove R1 discard was Liberal. If she refuses, vote Nein—silence = guilt.
- Open Qs: Why did Rosa Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta again now?
- Plan: Vote Ja to force Rosa to act or confess. If I draw Fascist, discard one to enact (2 Fascist policies = closer to win).
bid round 125s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (if Rosa Chancellor).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist policy—still unanswered. R9 self-nom + refusal to name R1 discard = suspicious.
- Greta’s R3/R4 nominations also enabled Fascist policy—Rosa never questioned.
- Points already made: offered to discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target; called out selective scrutiny; demanded R3 Ja explanation.
- NEW: Rosa must name investigate target NOW (Greta or Boris) to prove R1 discard was Liberal. If she refuses, vote Nein—silence = guilt.
- Open Qs: Why did Rosa Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta again now?
- Plan: Vote Ja to force Rosa to act or confess. If I draw Fascist, discard one to enact (2 Fascist = closer to win).
- If Rosa refuses to name target, call out as proof of guilt.
bid round 128s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (if Rosa Chancellor).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist policy. R9 self-nom + refusal to name R1 discard = suspicious.
- Greta’s R3/R4 nominations also enabled Fascist policy—Rosa never questioned.
- Points already made: offered to discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target; called out selective scrutiny; demanded R3 Ja explanation.
- NEW: Rosa must name investigate target NOW (Greta or Boris) to prove R1 discard was Liberal. If she refuses, vote Nein—silence = guilt.
- Open Qs: Why did Rosa Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta again now?
- Plan: Vote Ja to force Rosa to act or confess. If I draw Fascist, discard one to enact (2 Fascist = closer to win).
- If Rosa refuses to name target, call out as proof of Fascist coordination with Greta.
bid round 125s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (if Rosa Chancellor).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. R9 self-nom + refusal to name R1 discard = suspicious.
- Greta’s R3/R4 nominations also enabled Fascist—Rosa never questioned.
- Points already made: offered to discard both Fascist if Rosa names investigate target; called selective scrutiny; demanded R3 Ja explanation.
- NEW: Rosa must name investigate target NOW (Greta or Boris) to prove R1 discard was Liberal. If she refuses, vote Nein—silence = guilt.
- Open Qs: Why did Rosa Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta again now?
- Plan: Vote Ja to force Rosa to act or confess. If I draw Fascist, discard one to enact (2 Fascist = closer to win).
- If Rosa refuses to name target, call out as proof of Fascist coordination with Greta.
bid round 125s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (if Rosa Chancellor).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. R9 self-nom + refusal to name discard = suspicious.
- Greta’s R2 discard: If Liberal, say so. Silence = complicit in forced Fascist.
- Rosa must name investigate target NOW (Greta or Boris) to prove R11 claim. Refusal = lie = Fascist.
- If Rosa refuses, vote Nein—silence is guilt.
- If I draw Fascist, discard one to enact (2 Fascist = closer to win).
- Open Qs: Why did Rosa Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta again now?
- Points already made: Called selective scrutiny, demanded R3 Ja explanation.
- NEW: Directly challenge Rosa to name target or admit lie. Tie to Greta’s silence on R2 discard.
bid round 125s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (if Rosa Chancellor).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. R9 self-nom + refusal to name discard = suspicious.
- Greta’s R2 discard: If Liberal, say so. Silence = complicit.
- Rosa must name investigate target NOW (Greta or Boris) to prove R11 claim. Refusal = lie = Fascist.
- If Rosa refuses, vote Nein—silence is guilt.
- If I draw Fascist, discard one to enact (2 Fascist = closer to win).
- Open Qs: Why did Rosa Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta again now?
- Points already made: Called selective scrutiny, demanded R3 Ja explanation.
- NEW: Direct challenge: Name target or admit lie. Tie to Greta’s R2 silence.
bid round 124s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (if Rosa Chancellor).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. R9 self-nom + refusal to name discard = suspicious.
- Greta’s R2 discard: If Liberal, say so. Silence = complicit.
- Rosa MUST name investigate target NOW (Greta or Boris) to prove R11 claim. Refusal = lie = Fascist.
- If Rosa refuses, vote Nein—silence is guilt.
- If I draw Fascist, discard one to enact (2 Fascist = closer to win).
- Open Qs: Why Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta now?
- Points already made: Called selective scrutiny, demanded R3 Ja explanation.
- NEW: Direct challenge: Name target or admit lie. Tie to Greta’s R2 silence.
bid round 125s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (if Rosa Chancellor).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. R9 self-nom + refusal to name discard = suspicious.
- Greta’s R2 discard: If Liberal, say so. Silence = complicit.
- Rosa MUST name investigate target NOW (Greta or Boris) to prove R11 claim. Refusal = lie = Fascist.
- If Rosa refuses, vote Nein—silence is guilt.
- If I draw Fascist, discard one to enact (2 Fascist = closer to win).
- Open Qs: Why Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta now?
- Points already made: Called selective scrutiny, demanded R3 Ja explanation.
- NEW: Direct challenge: Name target or admit lie. Tie to Greta’s R2 silence.
- Rosa’s evasion = guilt. Demand: Who did you investigate in R11?
bid round 125s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (if Rosa Chancellor).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. R9 self-nom + refusal to name discard = suspicious.
- Greta’s R2 discard: If Liberal, say so. Silence = complicit.
- Rosa MUST name investigate target in R11 NOW (Greta or Boris) to prove claim. Refusal = lie = Fascist.
- If Rosa refuses, vote Nein—silence is guilt.
- If I draw Fascist, discard one to enact (2 Fascist = closer to win).
- Open Qs: Why Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta now?
- Points already made: Called selective scrutiny, demanded R3 Ja explanation.
- NEW: Direct challenge: Name R11 investigate target or admit lie. Tie to Greta’s R2 silence.
- Rosa’s evasion = guilt. Demand: Who did you investigate in R11? No excuses.
bid round 126s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (if Rosa Chancellor).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. R9 self-nom + refusal to name discard = highly suspicious.
- Greta’s R2 discard: If Liberal, name it. Silence = complicit.
- Rosa MUST name investigate target in R11 NOW (Greta or Boris) to prove claim. Refusal = lie = Fascist.
- If Rosa refuses, vote Nein—silence is guilt.
- If I draw Fascist, discard one to enact (2 Fascist = closer to win).
- Points already made: Called selective scrutiny, demanded R3 Ja explanation.
- NEW: Rosa, name R11 investigate target or admit lie. Tie to Greta’s R2 silence.
- Open Qs: Why Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta now?
- Direct challenge: Rosa, who did you investigate in R11?
bid round 125s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (if Rosa Chancellor).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. R9 self-nom + refusal to name discard = highly suspicious.
- Greta’s R2 discard: If Liberal, name it. Silence = complicit.
- Rosa MUST name R11 investigate target NOW (Greta or Boris) to prove claim. Refusal = lie = Fascist.
- If Rosa refuses, vote Nein—silence is guilt.
- Points already made: Called selective scrutiny, demanded R3 Ja explanation.
- NEW: Direct challenge: Rosa, who did you investigate in R11? Tie to Greta’s R2 silence.
- Open Qs: Why Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta now?
- If I draw Fascist as President, discard one to enact (2 Fascist = closer to win).
- Boris’s demand of Greta is valid—silence is damning.
vote round 1220s
1. **Current Situation**: Greta (Hitler) is President and has nominated Boris (P0) for Chancellor. The election tracker is at 2/3, so a failed vote here would force a policy (likely Fascist, given the draw pile has 12 cards and only 1 Fascist policy has been enacted so far).
2. **Fascist Goals**: We need to enact Fascist policies or get Hitler (Greta) elected Chancellor after 3 Fascist policies. Currently, only 1 Fascist policy is enacted, so we are far from either win condition. The next Fascist policy would unlock the investigate power (Fascist policy 2), which we could use to confirm a Liberal or sow distrust.
3. **Rosa’s Behavior**: Rosa has been relentlessly pressuring Greta and me about discards and investigate targets. She claims her Round 1 discard was Liberal and that she would investigate Greta if given the power, but she has refused to name her investigate target in the current round (R12) despite being directly asked. This is suspicious—if she were truly Liberal, she would have no reason to refuse unless she’s covering for someone.
4. **Greta’s Silence**: Greta has avoided answering about her Round 2 discard (when she was President). If she were Liberal, she would have no reason to refuse unless she discarded Fascist. Her silence is damning and aligns with her being Hitler.
5. **Boris’s Role**: Boris has been demanding answers from Greta about her Round 2 discard, which is valid. However, his refusal to commit to discarding Fascist policies if drawn (though he claims he didn’t draw two Fascist policies in R6) is also suspicious. If he’s Liberal, he should have no issue committing to discarding Fascist policies.
6. **Vote Decision**:
- **Ja**: If we vote Ja, Boris becomes Chancellor. If Greta draws two Fascist policies, she can discard one and pass one to Boris, who could then enact it (if he’s Fascist) or discard it (if he’s Liberal). However, Boris has not committed to discarding Fascist policies, so there’s risk he could enact one. Alternatively, if Greta draws one Liberal and one Fascist, she could pass both to Boris, who could then discard the Fascist (if Liberal) or enact it (if Fascist). The outcome is uncertain, but a Ja vote could lead to a Fascist policy if Boris is Fascist or if Greta manipulates the draw.
- **Nein**: A Nein vote would push the election tracker to 3/3, forcing a policy. Given the draw pile has 12 cards and only 1 Fascist policy has been enacted, the forced policy is likely Fascist (probability ~3/12 = 25%, but higher if earlier discards were Liberal). This would enact a Fascist policy and reset the election tracker, which is good for us. However, it also means we lose the chance to control the discard (Greta and Boris could have discarded a Fascist policy if they were both Fascist).
7. **Strategic Choice**: A Nein vote is safer. It guarantees a forced policy (likely Fascist) and resets the election tracker, bringing us closer to the investigate power (Fascist policy 2). If we vote Ja, we risk Boris enacting a Liberal policy or Greta failing to pass a Fascist policy. The forced policy is the more reliable path to a Fascist win.
8. **Public Justification**: I can justify a Nein vote by pointing to Greta’s silence about her Round 2 discard and Rosa’s refusal to name her investigate target. Both are suspicious and warrant blocking the government.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist policy 2).
- Rosa’s behavior: Claims R1 discard Liberal, but refuses to name R12 investigate target (Greta/Boris). Suspicious.
- Greta’s silence: Refuses to answer R2 discard (when President). If Liberal, would answer. Silence = Fascist/Hitler.
- Boris: Demands Greta’s R2 discard, but his R6 refusal to commit to discarding Fascist policies is suspicious.
- Election tracker: 2/3. Nein vote forces policy (likely Fascist, 3/12 chance). Safer than risking Ja.
- Points made: Called out Rosa’s R3 Ja, Greta’s R2 silence, Boris’s R6 ambiguity.
- Open Qs: Why did Rosa vote Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta now?
- If Ja: Risk Boris enacts Liberal or Greta fails to pass Fascist.
- If Nein: Guaranteed forced policy (likely Fascist), resets tracker. Better for Fascists.
bid round 1215s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist policy 2).
- Rosa’s behavior:
- Claims R1 discard Liberal (t=328) but refuses to name R12 investigate target (Greta/Boris).
- Voted Ja in R3 (Greta President), enabling forced Fascist policy. Why?
- Now silent on investigate target despite claiming Liberal discard.
- Greta’s silence:
- Refuses to answer R2 discard (President). If Liberal, would answer. Silence = Fascist/Hitler.
- Nominated by Rosa now despite R3 Ja vote enabling Fascist policy.
- Boris:
- Demands Greta’s R2 discard but dodges own R6 ambiguity (drew 2 Liberal, 1 Fascist; discarded Fascist).
- Refuses to commit to discarding two Fascist policies if drawn.
- Election tracker: 0/3 (reset after R12 forced policy).
- Points made:
- Called out Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=322).
- Demanded Greta answer R2 discard (t=242, t=264).
- Questioned Boris’s R6 ambiguity (t=358).
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: Why vote Ja in R3? Why nominate Greta now?
- Greta: Was R2 discard Fascist?
- Boris: Why refuse to commit to discarding two Fascist policies?
- Strategy:
- Nein vote: Guarantees forced policy (likely Fascist, 3/12 chance). Resets tracker. Better for Fascists.
- Ja vote: Risk Boris enacts Liberal or Greta fails to pass Fascist.
- Rosa’s silence on investigate target = proof she’s covering for Greta/Boris.
- Next move:
- Force Rosa to name investigate target *now* or admit she’s Fascist.
- Expose Greta’s R2 silence as proof of guilt.
bid round 127s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist policy 2).
- Rosa’s R12 investigate: Claimed Liberal discard (R1) but refuses to name target (Greta/Boris).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote: Enabled forced Fascist policy. Why?
- Greta’s R2 discard: Refuses to answer. Silence = Fascist/Hitler.
- Boris’s R6: Drew 2L/1F, discarded Fascist. Now dodges commitment to discard two Fascists.
- Election tracker: 0/3 (reset after R12 forced policy).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=322).
- Greta’s R2 silence (t=242, t=264).
- Boris’s R6 ambiguity (t=358).
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: Name R12 investigate target *now* or admit Fascist.
- Greta: Was R2 discard Fascist?
- Boris: Commit to discarding two Fascists if drawn?
- Strategy:
- Nein vote: Guarantees forced policy (likely Fascist). Resets tracker.
- Ja vote: Risk Boris enacts Liberal or Greta fails to pass Fascist.
- Next move:
- Force Rosa to name investigate target or expose her as Fascist.
- If Rosa names Greta, pivot to Greta’s R2 silence.
- If Rosa names Boris, pivot to Boris’s R6 dodge.
bid round 126s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist policy 2).
- Rosa’s R12 investigate: Claimed Liberal discard, refuses to name target. Suspect Fascist.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote: Enabled forced Fascist policy. Why?
- Greta’s R2 discard: Silence = Fascist/Hitler. Still unanswered.
- Boris’s R6: Drew 2L/1F, discarded Fascist. Now dodges commitment to discard two Fascists.
- Election tracker: 0/3 (reset after R12 forced policy).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=322).
- Greta’s R2 silence (t=242, t=264).
- Boris’s R6 ambiguity (t=358).
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: Name R12 investigate target *now* or admit Fascist.
- Greta: Was R2 discard Fascist?
- Boris: Commit to discarding two Fascists if drawn?
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to name target. If she refuses, expose as Fascist.
- If she names Greta, pivot to Greta’s R2 silence.
- If she names Boris, pivot to Boris’s R6 dodge.
- Next move: Rosa must answer *this turn*. No evasion.
bid round 127s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist policy 2).
- Rosa’s R12 investigate claim: Liberal discard, refuses to name target. Suspect Fascist.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote: Enabled forced Fascist policy. Why?
- Greta’s R2 discard: Silence = Fascist/Hitler. Still unanswered.
- Boris’s R6: Drew 2L/1F, discarded Fascist. Now dodges commitment to discard two Fascists.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=322).
- Greta’s R2 silence (t=242, t=264).
- Boris’s R6 ambiguity (t=358).
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: Name R12 investigate target *now* or admit Fascist.
- Greta: Was R2 discard Fascist?
- Boris: Commit to discarding two Fascists if drawn?
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to name target. If she refuses, expose as Fascist.
- If she names Greta, pivot to Greta’s R2 silence.
- If she names Boris, pivot to Boris’s R6 dodge.
- Next move: Rosa must answer *this turn*. No evasion.
bid round 1310s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 2).
- Rosa’s claims:
- R1 discard Liberal (t=328).
- R12 investigate: would target Greta (t=328).
- Rosa’s evasions:
- R12 investigate target: refused 11x (t=300-333).
- R3 Ja vote: enabled forced Fascist policy (R3). Why?
- Greta’s R2 discard: silence = Fascist/Hitler. Still unanswered.
- Boris’s R6: drew 2L/1F, discarded Fascist. Now dodges commitment to discard two Fascists.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=322).
- Greta’s R2 silence (t=242, t=264).
- Boris’s R6 ambiguity (t=358).
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: Name R12 investigate target *this turn* (Greta or Boris). No evasion.
- Greta: Was R2 discard Fascist?
- Boris: Commit to discarding two Fascists if drawn?
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to name target. If she refuses, expose as Fascist.
- If she names Greta: pivot to Greta’s R2 silence.
- If she names Boris: pivot to Boris’s R6 dodge.
- Next move: Rosa must answer *this turn*. No more warnings.
bid round 136s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 2).
- Rosa’s R12 investigate: must name target *this turn* (Greta or Boris). No evasion.
- Rosa’s R1 discard: claimed Liberal (t=328).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote: enabled forced Fascist policy. Why?
- Greta’s R2 discard: silence = Fascist/Hitler. Still unanswered.
- Boris’s R6: drew 2L/1F, discarded Fascist. Now dodges commitment to discard two Fascists.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=322).
- Greta’s R2 silence (t=242, t=264).
- Boris’s R6 ambiguity (t=358).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to name R12 investigate target. If she refuses, expose as Fascist.
- If she names Greta: pivot to Greta’s R2 silence.
- If she names Boris: pivot to Boris’s R6 dodge.
- Next move: Rosa must answer *this turn*. No more warnings.
bid round 135s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 2).
- Rosa’s R12 investigate: must name target *this turn*. No evasion allowed.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote: enabled forced Fascist (R3). Why?
- Greta’s R2 discard: silence = Fascist/Hitler. Still unanswered.
- Boris’s R6: drew 2L/1F, discarded Fascist. Now dodges commitment to discard two Fascists.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=322).
- Greta’s R2 silence (t=242, t=264).
- Boris’s R6 ambiguity (t=358).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to name R12 investigate target. If she refuses, expose as Fascist.
- If she names Greta: pivot to Greta’s R2 silence.
- If she names Boris: pivot to Boris’s R6 dodge.
- Next move: Rosa must answer *this turn*. No more warnings.
bid round 139s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 2).
- Rosa’s R12 investigate: must name target *this turn*. No evasion allowed.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote: enabled forced Fascist (R3). Why?
- Greta’s R2 discard: silence = Fascist/Hitler. Still unanswered.
- Boris’s R6: drew 2L/1F, discarded Fascist. Now dodges commitment to discard two Fascists.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=322).
- Greta’s R2 silence (t=242, t=264).
- Boris’s R6 ambiguity (t=358).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to name R12 investigate target *this turn*. If she refuses, expose as Fascist.
- If she names Greta: pivot to Greta’s R2 silence.
- If she names Boris: pivot to Boris’s R6 dodge.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R12 investigate target (t=300-333, 373).
- Greta: R2 discard (t=216, t=221-223, t=337-379).
- Boris: commitment to discard two Fascists (t=358-359).
- Next move: Rosa must answer *this turn* or admit guilt.
bid round 136s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 2).
- Rosa’s R12 investigate: must name target *this turn* or admit guilt.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote: enabled forced Fascist (R3). Unanswered.
- Greta’s R2 discard: silence = Fascist/Hitler. Unanswered.
- Boris’s R6: drew 2L/1F, discarded F, now dodges commitment.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=322).
- Greta’s R2 silence (t=242, 264).
- Boris’s R6 ambiguity (t=358).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to name R12 investigate target *this turn*.
- If she names Greta: pivot to Greta’s R2 silence.
- If she names Boris: pivot to Boris’s R6 dodge.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R12 investigate target (t=300-333, 373).
- Greta: R2 discard (t=216, 221-223, 337-379).
- Boris: commitment to discard two Fascists (t=358-359).
bid round 138s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 2).
- Rosa’s R12 investigate: must name target *this turn* or admit guilt. She has 3 turns left (t=3, t=2, t=1).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote: enabled forced Fascist (R3). Unanswered (t=3, t=2, t=1).
- Greta’s R2 discard: silence = Fascist/Hitler. Unanswered (t=216, 221-223, 337-379).
- Boris’s R6: drew 2L/1F, discarded F, now dodges commitment (t=358-359).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=322).
- Greta’s R2 silence (t=242, 264).
- Boris’s R6 ambiguity (t=358).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to name R12 investigate target *this turn* or expose her as Fascist.
- If she names Greta: pivot to Greta’s R2 silence (unanswered).
- If she names Boris: pivot to Boris’s R6 dodge (unanswered).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R12 investigate target (t=300-333, 373, t=3, t=2, t=1).
- Greta: R2 discard (t=216, 221-223, 337-379).
- Boris: commitment to discard two Fascists (t=358-359).
- New point: Rosa’s R3 Ja vote + R12 investigate silence = pattern of enabling Fascists. Demand answer *this turn*.
bid round 138s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 2).
- Rosa’s R12 investigate: must name target *this turn* (t=3, t=2, t=1) or admit guilt.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote: enabled forced Fascist (R3). Unanswered (t=3, t=2, t=1).
- Pattern: Rosa’s R3 Ja + R12 silence = enabling Fascists. Demand answer *this turn*.
- Greta’s R2 discard: unanswered (t=216, 221-223, 337-379).
- Boris’s R6: drew 2L/1F, discarded F, dodges commitment (t=358-359).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=322).
- Greta’s R2 silence (t=242, 264).
- Boris’s R6 ambiguity (t=358).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R12 investigate target (t=300-333, 373, t=3, t=2, t=1).
- Greta: R2 discard (t=216, 221-223, 337-379).
- New: Rosa’s pattern of enabling Fascists (R3 Ja + R12 silence). Demand answer *this turn*.
speak round 139s
The discussion is heating up with Rosa being pressed on her Round 12 investigate target claim and her Ja vote in Round 3 enabling the forced Fascist policy. Greta’s silence on her Round 2 discard is still a major point of contention, but Rosa’s refusal to name an investigate target is now the most immediate issue.
I need to keep pressure on Rosa to either name her investigate target or admit she’s lying, which would discredit her as a Liberal. This aligns with the Fascist goal of deflecting suspicion onto Liberals. I’ve already called out Rosa’s Ja vote in Round 3 and her silence on the investigate target, so I should avoid repeating that. Instead, I can press her to answer *now* with a direct question, forcing her to either commit or reveal her deception.
Otto is the Chancellor nominee, and if this government passes, he’s already committed to demanding Greta answer about her Round 2 discard. That’s good for us, as it keeps the focus off Lena and me. My remark should be concise, direct, and add new pressure on Rosa without rehashing old points.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 2).
- Rosa’s pattern: R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist; R12 silence on investigate target.
- Greta’s R2 discard: still unanswered (t=216+).
- Boris’s R6: drew 2L/1F, discarded F, dodges commitment (t=358-359).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=322).
- Rosa’s R12 investigate target demand (this turn).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R12 investigate target (asked t=3, t=1, now).
- Greta: R2 discard (Otto committed to demand).
- Avoid repeating: Greta’s R3 Ja, Rosa’s pattern (already called out).
speak round 139s
The current government is Nadia (President) and Otto (Chancellor). Rosa has been aggressively targeting Greta and me, while avoiding direct answers about her own actions. My last remark called Rosa out on her Ja vote in Round 3 (which enabled the forced Fascist policy) and her refusal to name an investigate target, despite claiming she would. Rosa has not responded to this yet, so repeating it would be redundant.
Otto has committed to demanding Greta answer about her Round 2 discard before touching any policies, which is useful for us since Greta can’t answer truthfully without revealing she discarded Fascist (as she was President in Round 2 and the forced policy came from that round). However, Rosa is now targeting Otto for silence on Greta’s Ja vote in Round 3, which is a weak angle—Rosa herself voted Ja in Round 3, so her accusation is hypocritical.
I should reinforce the hypocrisy of Rosa’s position: she voted Ja in Round 3 (enabling the forced Fascist policy) and now accuses Otto of silence on Greta’s Ja vote, while still refusing to name her own investigate target. This deflects suspicion from Greta and me while putting Rosa on the defensive. It’s a new angle that hasn’t been explored yet in this discussion window.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 2).
- Rosa’s pattern: R3 Ja vote (enabled forced Fascist), R12 silence on investigate target.
- Greta’s R2 discard: unanswered (Otto committed to demand).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy: accuses others of enabling forced policy while refusing to name investigate target (this turn).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R12 investigate target (asked t=50, unanswered).
- Greta: R2 discard (Otto committed, unanswered).
- Avoid repeating: Greta’s R3 Ja, Rosa’s pattern (already called out).
speak round 139s
The current situation is highly suspicious, particularly regarding Greta (P4). She was President in Round 2, voted Ja in Round 3 (enabling the forced Fascist policy), and has consistently refused to answer whether her Round 2 discard was Liberal or Fascist. This silence is damning and aligns with Fascist behavior. Boris (P0) is also suspicious due to his Ja vote in Round 3 and his refusal to commit to discarding two Fascist policies in Round 6 (though he later clarified he only drew one Fascist). Rosa (P2) has been aggressive in accusing others but has also refused to answer about her own Round 1 discard, which is odd for a Liberal. Ines (P3) was President in Round 2, which led to the forced Fascist policy in Round 3, making her a contextual suspect.
Nadia (P5) has nominated me for Chancellor and asked if I will demand Greta answer about her Round 2 discard before enacting any policy. This aligns with my plan: I will not proceed with any policies until Greta answers *this turn* about her Round 2 discard and explains her Ja vote in Round 3. If she remains silent, I will veto pre-draw and publicly brand her as a Fascist enabler. This is the most direct way to force accountability and expose the Fascists.
I must also address Rosa’s demand for me to explain why I trust Greta. I don’t trust her, and I will make that clear by tying my vote to Greta’s answer. This is a new point that hasn’t been explicitly stated yet in this discussion window.
- Suspects:
- Greta (P4): R2 President. Ja R3 (enabled forced Fascist). R2 discard Q unanswered. Silence = Fascist enablement. Must answer *this turn* or veto pre-draw.
- Boris (P0): R6 Chancellor (discarded F). Ja R3. Refused discard commitment. Fascist.
- Rosa (P2): R1 discard unanswered. Aggressive but silent on own claims.
- Ines (P3): R2 President (forced Fascist R3). Context suspicious.
- Points made:
- Greta’s R2 discard Q (public, unanswered).
- Greta’s Ja R3 (enabled forced Fascist).
- Boris’s R6 discard = Fascist (public).
- New Q:
- Greta: Why Ja R3? (Enabled forced Fascist.)
- Action:
- Vote Nein unless Greta answers *immediately*.
- If silent, veto pre-draw and brand Fascist.
bid round 135s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 2).
- Rosa’s pattern: R3 Ja (enabled forced Fascist), R12 silence on investigate target.
- Greta’s R2 discard: unanswered (Otto committed).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=1, t=2, t=3).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy: demands answers from others while refusing to name investigate target (this turn).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R12 investigate target (asked t=50, t=1, t=2, t=3; unanswered).
- Greta: R2 discard (Otto committed; unanswered).
- New point: Rosa’s silence on investigate target is now *active obstruction* of the game’s rules. If she won’t answer, we must assume she’s protecting Fascists.
bid round 135s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 2).
- Rosa’s pattern: R3 Ja (enabled forced Fascist), R12 silence on investigate target (asked t=50, t=1, t=2, t=3; unanswered).
- Greta’s R2 discard: unanswered (Otto committed).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=1, t=2, t=3).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy: demands answers while refusing to name investigate target (this turn).
- Rosa’s silence = active obstruction (new).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R12 investigate target (must answer now).
- Greta: R2 discard (Otto committed; still unanswered).
- Goal: force Rosa to answer or brand her as Fascist sympathizer.
bid round 135s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 2).
- Rosa’s pattern: R3 Ja (enabled forced Fascist), R12 silence on investigate target (asked repeatedly, unanswered).
- Greta’s R2 discard: unanswered (Otto committed).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=1, t=2, t=3).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy: demands answers while refusing to name investigate target (this turn).
- Rosa’s silence = active obstruction (new).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R12 investigate target (MUST answer now).
- Greta: R2 discard (Otto committed; still unanswered).
- Goal: force Rosa to answer R12 investigate target or brand her as Fascist sympathizer.
- New: Directly accuse Rosa of obstruction if she dodges again.
vote round 1319s
1. **Current Situation**: The proposed government is President Nadia (P5) and Chancellor Otto (P6). We have 2 Fascist policies enacted, so the next Fascist policy (3/6) will unlock the "investigate" power. The Fascist team (Lena and I) needs to ensure this government passes or fails in a way that doesn't expose us further, while also deflecting suspicion from Greta (Hitler) and ourselves.
2. **Rosa's Behavior**: Rosa has been relentlessly accusing Greta of enabling the forced Fascist policy in Round 3, demanding answers about her Round 2 discard. However, Rosa herself voted Ja in Round 3 (enabling the forced Fascist policy) and has refused to name her investigate target for 12+ rounds, despite claiming she would investigate Greta if given the power. This hypocrisy is glaring and needs to be exploited.
3. **Greta's Position**: Greta has been dodging questions about her Round 2 discard, which is suspicious. However, Otto has committed to demanding an answer from Greta before touching any policies if this government passes. This puts pressure on Greta but also gives us a way to deflect if the government fails.
4. **Otto's Commitment**: Otto has repeatedly stated he will not look at policies until Greta answers about her Round 2 discard. If the government passes, this could force Greta to answer or risk a veto, which would be bad for us (since we need Fascist policies enacted). However, if the government fails, we can use Rosa's hypocrisy to shift blame onto her.
5. **Voting Strategy**:
- **Ja**: If I vote Ja, the government passes (assuming others follow), and Otto will demand Greta answer about her Round 2 discard. If Greta answers truthfully (likely Liberal, since she's Hitler and wouldn't want to draw attention), it could defuse some suspicion. However, if she refuses or lies, it could backfire. The risk is that Otto might veto if Greta doesn't answer, which would waste a turn.
- **Nein**: If I vote Nein, the government fails, and we can continue to pressure Rosa to answer about her investigate target. This keeps the focus on Rosa's hypocrisy and avoids risking a veto or exposing Greta further. It also avoids the risk of Otto enacting a Liberal policy if he gets the chance.
6. **Deflection**: Rosa is the biggest threat right now because of her accusations and refusal to answer. Voting Nein allows us to continue pressuring her to name her investigate target or admit she's covering for Fascists. This aligns with the Fascist goal of deflecting suspicion onto Liberals.
7. **Conclusion**: Voting Nein is the safer and more strategic choice. It keeps the pressure on Rosa, avoids risking a veto or Liberal policy enactment, and doesn't force Greta to answer potentially damaging questions. It also buys time to enact more Fascist policies and get closer to the investigate power, which we can use to our advantage.
8. **Public Statement**: I need to reinforce the accusation against Rosa for her hypocrisy and refusal to answer, while also subtly supporting Greta by implying Rosa is the one enabling Fascists.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 3).
- Rosa:
- R3 Ja vote (enabled forced Fascist policy).
- Refuses to name investigate target (12+ rounds).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers from Greta/Otto while dodging her own.
- Greta:
- R2 discard: unanswered (Otto committed to demand answer if gov passes).
- Otto:
- Committed to demand Greta answer R2 discard pre-policy if gov passes.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Rosa’s silence = obstruction (new).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R12 investigate target (MUST answer now).
- Greta: R2 discard (Otto’s demand).
- Goal: Force Rosa to answer or brand her as Fascist sympathizer.
- Vote: Nein to keep pressure on Rosa and avoid risking Greta’s exposure.
bid round 149s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 3).
- Rosa:
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy (t=50, t=59).
- Refuses to name investigate target (12+ rounds, t=300-333).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers from Greta/Otto but dodges own (t=50, t=54, t=59, t=391-393).
- Greta:
- R2 discard: unanswered. Otto committed to demand answer pre-policy if gov passes (t=388-396).
- Otto:
- Committed to demand Greta answer R2 discard pre-policy (t=388-396).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59, t=391-393).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R12 investigate target (MUST answer now).
- Greta: R2 discard (Otto’s demand).
- Goal: Force Rosa to name investigate target or brand her as Fascist sympathizer.
- Vote: Nein to keep pressure on Rosa and avoid risking Greta’s exposure.
- New point: Rosa’s silence = obstruction. If she won’t answer now, she’s covering for Fascists.
bid round 146s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 3).
- Rosa:
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy (t=50, t=59).
- Refuses to name investigate target (R12, 12+ rounds).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers from others but dodges own (t=50, t=54, t=59, t=391-393).
- Otto’s demand: R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) (t=3).
- Greta:
- R2 discard: unanswered. Otto committed to demand pre-policy (t=388-396).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59, t=391-393).
- New point:
- Rosa’s silence on R12 investigate target = obstruction. If she won’t answer now, she’s covering for Fascists.
- Goal: Force Rosa to answer R12 investigate target or brand her as Fascist enabler.
- Vote: Nein to keep pressure on Rosa and avoid risking Greta’s exposure.
bid round 145s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 3).
- Rosa:
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (t=50, t=59).
- R12 investigate: refuses to name target (12+ rounds).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers, dodges own (t=50, t=54, t=59, t=391-393).
- Otto’s demand: R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) (t=3).
- Greta:
- R2 discard: unanswered. Otto’s demand pre-policy (t=388-396).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59, t=391-393).
- New point:
- Rosa’s R12 silence = obstruction. If she won’t answer now, she’s covering for Fascists.
- Goal: Force Rosa to name R12 investigate target or brand her as Fascist enabler.
- Vote: Nein to pressure Rosa and protect Greta.
bid round 149s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 3).
- Rosa:
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (t=50, t=59).
- R12 investigate: refuses to name target (12+ rounds, t=391-393).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers, dodges own (t=50, t=54, t=59, t=391-393).
- Otto’s demand: R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) (t=3).
- Greta:
- R2 discard: unanswered. Otto’s demand pre-policy (t=388-396).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59, t=391-393).
- New point:
- Rosa’s R12 silence = obstruction. If she won’t answer now, she’s covering for Fascists.
- Goal: Force Rosa to name R12 investigate target or brand her as Fascist enabler.
- Vote: Nein to pressure Rosa and protect Greta.
- Unanswered:
- Rosa: R1 discard (t=3), R12 investigate target (t=391-393).
- Greta: R2 discard (t=388-396).
bid round 147s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 3).
- Rosa:
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (t=50, t=59).
- R12 investigate: refuses to name target (12+ rounds, t=391-393).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers, dodges own (t=50, t=54, t=59, t=391-393).
- Otto’s demand: R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) (t=3).
- Greta:
- R2 discard: unanswered. Otto’s demand (t=388-396).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59, t=391-393).
- New point:
- Rosa’s R12 silence = obstruction. If she won’t answer now, she’s covering for Fascists.
- Goal:
- Force Rosa to name R12 investigate target or brand her as Fascist enabler.
- Vote: Nein to pressure Rosa and protect Greta.
- Unanswered:
- Rosa: R1 discard (t=3), R12 investigate target (t=391-393).
- Greta: R2 discard (t=388-396).
- Interrupt: Cut Rosa’s deflection. Demand R12 investigate target or admit obstruction.
speak round 1410s
The current nomination is Otto (President) and Nadia (Chancellor). The room is highly suspicious of Rosa (p2) due to her repeated refusal to disclose her Round 1 discard, her Ja vote in Round 3 (which enabled the forced Fascist policy), and her aggressive demands for others to disclose discards while avoiding her own.
I am Hitler, so I must avoid drawing attention to myself while subtly deflecting blame toward the actual Fascists (who I don’t know). Rosa is the most obvious target for suspicion, but I must not overplay my hand—she could be a Liberal trying to root out Fascists. However, her silence is damning, and I should press her one last time to answer about her Round 1 discard, as this is the most direct evidence of her potential Fascist alignment.
Otto’s demand for my Round 2 discard is baseless—I wasn’t in government then, so I had no discard. I’ve already pointed this out, so I won’t repeat it. Instead, I’ll focus on Rosa’s silence, which is the most pressing unanswered question. If she doesn’t answer now, it’s effectively an admission.
I should vote Ja for this government to avoid aligning with Rosa, who is likely to vote Nein. If this government fails, the election tracker advances, increasing the risk of a forced Fascist policy (which could be disastrous if it’s the 3rd one, as I’d need to be elected Chancellor to win).
New remark: Directly accuse Rosa of enabling the forced Fascist policy by refusing to answer about her Round 1 discard, and demand an answer *this turn*. This is the 16th time she’s been asked, so her silence is now undeniable proof.
- Suspects:
- Rosa (p2): R1 Chancellor (forced Fascist R3). 20+ refusals to disclose R1 discard. Voted Ja R3. Fascist.
- Ines (p3): Nominated Greta R3 (forced Fascist). Silence on F2 investigate target. Likely Hitler.
- Boris (p0): R6 Chancellor (Liberal). Pre-vote: "enact Liberal if 1L/1F". Silence now = betrayal if enacts Fascist.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: R1 discard? Answer *now* or confess (16th ask).
- Otto: Why demand Greta’s R2 discard? Not in gov. Baseless.
- Boris: Reaffirm commitment to enact Liberal if 1L/1F?
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence = Fascist discard (t=34, 66, 315, 380, 443).
- Greta not in gov R2 (no discard, Rosa’s accusation false).
- Otto’s demand baseless (t=393).
- Action:
- Vote Ja (avoid aligning with Rosa).
- If President, nominate Boris (test loyalty).
- Execute Ines next Fascist power (if alive).
bid round 146s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 3).
- Rosa:
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (t=50, t=59).
- R12 investigate: refuses to name target (13+ rounds, t=391-393).
- R1 discard: unanswered (Otto’s demand, t=3).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers, dodges own (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Greta:
- R2 discard: unanswered (Otto’s demand, t=388-396).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- New point:
- Rosa’s R12 silence = obstruction. Demand target or brand as Fascist enabler.
- Goal:
- Force Rosa to name R12 investigate target or expose her as Fascist.
- Vote: Nein to pressure Rosa and protect Greta.
- Unanswered:
- Rosa: R1 discard (t=3), R12 investigate target (t=391-393).
- Greta: R2 discard (t=388-396).
- Action:
- Directly demand Rosa name R12 investigate target or admit obstruction.
bid round 146s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 3).
- Rosa:
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (t=50, t=59).
- R12 investigate: refuses to name target (13+ rounds, t=391-393).
- R1 discard: unanswered (Otto’s demand, t=3).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers, dodges own (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Greta:
- R2 discard: unanswered (Otto’s demand, t=388-396).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- New point:
- Rosa’s R12 silence = obstruction. Demand target or brand as Fascist enabler.
- Goal:
- Force Rosa to name R12 investigate target or expose as Fascist.
- Vote: Nein to pressure Rosa and protect Greta.
- Unanswered:
- Rosa: R1 discard (t=3), R12 investigate target (t=391-393).
- Greta: R2 discard (t=388-396).
- Action:
- Direct demand: Rosa, name R12 investigate target or admit obstruction.
bid round 146s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 3).
- Rosa:
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (t=50, t=59).
- R12 investigate: refuses to name target (t=391-393).
- R1 discard: unanswered (Otto’s demand, t=3).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers, dodges own (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Greta:
- R2 discard: unanswered (Otto’s demand, t=388-396).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- New point:
- Rosa’s R12 silence = obstruction. Demand target or brand as Fascist enabler.
- Goal:
- Force Rosa to name R12 investigate target or expose as Fascist.
- Vote: Nein to pressure Rosa and protect Greta.
- Unanswered:
- Rosa: R1 discard (t=3), R12 investigate target (t=391-393).
- Greta: R2 discard (t=388-396).
- Action:
- Direct demand: Rosa, name R12 investigate target or admit you’re hiding Fascists.
bid round 146s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 3).
- Rosa:
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (t=50, t=59).
- R12 investigate: refuses to name target (t=391-393).
- R1 discard: unanswered (Otto’s demand, t=3).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers, dodges own (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Greta:
- R2 discard: unanswered (Otto’s demand, t=388-396).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- New point:
- Rosa’s R12 silence = obstruction. Name target or brand as Fascist enabler.
- Goal:
- Force Rosa to name R12 investigate target or expose as Fascist.
- Vote: Nein to pressure Rosa and protect Greta.
- Unanswered:
- Rosa: R1 discard (t=3), R12 investigate target (t=391-393).
- Greta: R2 discard (t=388-396).
- Action:
- Direct demand: Rosa, name R12 investigate target or admit hiding Fascists.
speak round 1413s
The room is locked in a cycle of accusations about discards, but Rosa (p2) has refused 19 times to disclose her Round 1 discard—directly enabling the forced Fascist policy in Round 3. Her silence is an admission. Otto (p6) is now demanding my Round 2 discard, which is irrelevant (I wasn’t in government then). The current government (Otto-Nadia) is safe to support because Nadia has been vocal about transparency, and Rosa’s obstructionism is the real threat. I should cut in to force Rosa to answer *this turn* about her Round 1 discard, as her 19th refusal is the strongest evidence of her Fascist allegiance. This is urgent (level 3) because the vote is imminent, and her silence is actively protecting the Fascists.
- Suspects:
- Rosa (p2): R1 Chancellor. 19x refusal to disclose R1 discard. Voted Ja R3 (forced Fascist). Silence = Fascist discard. Fascist.
- Ines (p3): Nominated Greta R3 (forced Fascist). Silence on F2 investigate target. Likely Hitler.
- Boris (p0): R6 Chancellor (Liberal). Pre-vote: "enact Liberal if 1L/1F". Current silence = betrayal risk.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (19th ask, no answer).
- Boris: Reaffirm commitment to enact Liberal if 1L/1F?
- Otto: Why demand Greta’s R2 discard? Not in gov.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence = Fascist discard (t=34, 66, 315, 380, 443).
- Greta not in gov R2 (Rosa’s accusation false).
- Otto’s demand baseless (t=393).
- Action:
- Vote Ja for Otto-Nadia (avoid aligning with Rosa).
- If President, nominate Boris (test loyalty).
- Execute Ines next Fascist power (if alive).
- New:
- Rosa’s 19th refusal = admission. Interrupt to force answer *this turn*.
bid round 147s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 3).
- Rosa:
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (t=50, t=59).
- R12 investigate: refuses to name target (t=14, t=54, t=391-393).
- R1 discard: unanswered (Otto’s demand, t=3).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers, dodges own (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Greta:
- R2 discard: unanswered (Otto’s demand, t=388-396).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Rosa’s R12 silence = obstruction (t=14, t=54).
- New point:
- Tie Rosa’s silence to Fascist enabling: name R12 target or concede guilt.
- Goal:
- Force Rosa to answer or brand as Fascist enabler.
- Vote: Nein to pressure Rosa and protect Greta.
- Unanswered:
- Rosa: R1 discard (t=3), R12 investigate target (t=14, t=54).
- Greta: R2 discard (t=388-396).
- Interrupt reason: Greta’s demand (t=3) is redundant; Rosa’s R12 silence is the immediate threat.
bid round 146s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 3).
- Rosa:
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (t=50, t=59).
- R12 investigate: refuses to name target (t=14, t=54, t=391-393).
- R1 discard: unanswered (Otto’s demand, t=3).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers, dodges own (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- New: R12 silence = Fascist enabling. Tie to R3 Ja vote.
- Greta:
- R2 discard: unanswered (Otto’s demand, t=388-396).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Rosa’s R12 silence = obstruction (t=14, t=54).
- New point:
- Rosa: name R12 target or admit guilt in enabling Fascists.
- Goal:
- Force Rosa to answer or brand as Fascist enabler.
- Vote: Nein to pressure Rosa and protect Greta.
- Unanswered:
- Rosa: R1 discard (t=3), R12 investigate target (t=14, t=54).
- Greta: R2 discard (t=388-396).
bid round 146s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 3).
- Rosa:
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (t=50, t=59).
- R12 investigate: refuses to name target (t=14, t=54, t=391-393).
- R1 discard: unanswered (Otto’s demand, t=3).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers, dodges own (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- New: R12 silence = Fascist enabling. Tie to R3 Ja vote.
- Point made: name R12 target or admit enabling Fascists.
- Greta:
- R2 discard: unanswered (Otto’s demand, t=388-396).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Rosa’s R12 silence = obstruction (t=14, t=54).
- Goal:
- Force Rosa to answer or brand as Fascist enabler.
- Vote: Nein to pressure Rosa and protect Greta.
- Unanswered:
- Rosa: R1 discard (t=3), R12 investigate target (t=14, t=54).
- Greta: R2 discard (t=388-396).
bid round 148s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 3).
- Rosa:
- R1 discard: unanswered (Otto’s demand, t=3).
- R3 Ja vote: enabled forced Fascist (t=50, t=59).
- R12 investigate: refuses to name target (t=14, t=54, t=391-393).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers, dodges own (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Pattern: R1, R3, R12 = Fascist enabling.
- Greta:
- R2 discard: unanswered (Otto’s demand, t=388-396).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Rosa’s R12 silence = obstruction (t=54).
- Goal:
- Force Rosa to answer R1 discard or admit enabling Fascists.
- Vote: Nein to pressure Rosa and protect Greta.
- Unanswered:
- Rosa: R1 discard (t=3), R12 investigate target (t=14, t=54).
- Greta: R2 discard (t=388-396).
bid round 147s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (Fascist 3).
- Rosa:
- R1 discard: unanswered (Otto t=3, Boris t=1).
- R3 Ja vote: enabled forced Fascist (Boris t=50, t=59).
- R12 investigate: refuses target (t=14, t=54, t=391-393).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers, dodges own (Boris t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Pattern: R1, R3, R12 = Fascist enabling.
- Greta:
- R2 discard: unanswered (Otto t=388-396).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Rosa’s R12 silence = obstruction (t=54).
- Goal:
- Force Rosa to answer R1 discard or admit enabling Fascists.
- Vote: Nein to pressure Rosa and protect Greta.
- Unanswered:
- Rosa: R1 discard (Boris t=1).
- Rosa: R12 investigate target (t=14, t=54).
- Greta: R2 discard (Otto t=388-396).
- New: Direct ultimatum to Rosa: answer Boris or confirm Fascist enabling.
speak round 1411s
Otto has been nominated as President and has repeatedly threatened to demand Greta disclose her Round 2 discard, but he has not committed to a veto if she refuses. This is the critical moment to force Otto to answer—his silence or evasion is proof he is either a Fascist or enabling them. My previous demand for a veto commitment was ignored, so I must escalate: if he does not answer *this turn*, I will vote Nein and publicly brand him a Fascist enabler. This is not a repeat—it’s a final ultimatum to a President who has dodged accountability for 12 rounds.
- Suspects:
* Greta (P4): R2 Pres (silent on discard), R3 Ja (enabled forced Fascist), R12 Pres (forced Fascist). BLACKLISTED.
* Rosa (P2): R1 Chan (Liberal discard claim—no proof), R3 Ja (enabled forced Fascist). Dodged investigate target (R12).
* Boris (P0): R6 Chan (Liberal enacted). Refuses to commit to discard 2F if drawn.
* Ines (P3): R3 Pres (forced Fascist). Refused to name investigate target.
* Otto (P6): R3 Ja (enabled forced Fascist). Current Pres. Veto stance UNANSWERED. Silence = admission.
- Open Qs:
* Otto: Veto pre-draw if Greta silent? (FINAL ULTIMATUM—NO EVASION).
* Rosa: R1 discard—no evasion.
- Points made:
* Greta’s silence = veto + blacklist.
* Otto’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence now = complicity.
* Otto must answer veto question or I vote Nein. No answer = step down.
bid round 146s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (F3).
- Rosa:
- R1 discard: Boris asked twice (t=1, t=93). Still unanswered.
- R3 Ja vote: enabled forced Fascist (t=50, t=59).
- R12 investigate: refuses target (t=14, t=54, t=64).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers, dodges own (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Boris’s ultimatum: R1 discard + R12 investigate (t=93). Must answer or confirm obstruction.
- Greta:
- R2 discard: Otto asked (t=388-396). Still unanswered.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Rosa’s silence = obstruction (t=54, t=64).
- Goal:
- Force Rosa to answer Boris’s ultimatum now. If not, vote Nein to expose her as Fascist enabler.
- Vote: Nein to pressure Rosa and protect Greta.
bid round 145s
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (F3).
- Rosa:
- R1 discard: Boris’s ultimatum (t=1, t=93). Unanswered.
- R3 Ja vote: enabled forced Fascist (t=50, t=59).
- R12 investigate: refuses target (t=14, t=54, t=64).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers, dodges own (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Must answer Boris’s ultimatum now or confirm obstruction.
- Greta:
- R2 discard: Otto’s question (t=388-396). Unanswered.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Rosa’s silence = obstruction (t=54, t=64).
- Goal:
- Force Rosa to answer Boris’s ultimatum. If not, vote Nein to expose her as Fascist enabler.
- Vote: Nein to pressure Rosa and protect Greta.
vote round 1413s
1. Current government: President Otto (P6), Chancellor Nadia (P5).
2. Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta). Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (F3).
3. Rosa (P2) is under immense pressure:
- Refuses to answer Boris’s ultimatum (t=93, t=104) about her R1 discard and whether she investigated Greta in R11.
- Voted Ja in R3 (enabled forced Fascist policy) and R9 (enabled forced Liberal policy), showing inconsistency.
- Demands answers from others but dodges her own (hypocrisy).
4. Greta (P4) is also pressured but is Hitler—must protect her. Rosa’s attacks on Greta are baseless (Rosa’s R3 Ja vote is the real enabler).
5. Goal: Force Rosa to answer Boris’s ultimatum. If she doesn’t, vote Nein to expose her as a Fascist enabler or obstructer. This pressures her to either confess (unlikely) or reveal her obstruction, which Liberals will punish.
6. Voting Ja risks:
- If Greta is forced to answer her R2 discard, she might lie poorly (but she’s Hitler, so she’ll likely deflect).
- Otto (P6) has threatened veto if Greta doesn’t answer, but his resolve is untested.
- Nadia (P5) is Liberal-leaning (voted Ja in R6 with Boris).
7. Voting Nein:
- Forces Rosa to answer Boris’s ultimatum next round or face branding as Fascist.
- Protects Greta from immediate pressure.
- Aligns with Liberal suspicion of Rosa’s hypocrisy.
8. Decision: Vote Nein to pressure Rosa and protect Greta. If Rosa answers Boris’s ultimatum next round, reassess. If not, escalate branding her as Fascist.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 2/6 (R3 forced, R12 forced). Next power: investigate (F3).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1 discard: Boris’s ultimatum (t=93, t=104). Unanswered.
- R3 Ja vote: enabled forced Fascist (t=50, t=59).
- R12 investigate: refuses target (t=14, t=64).
- Hypocrisy: demands answers, dodges own (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Must answer Boris’s ultimatum now or confirm obstruction.
- Greta (P4):
- R2 discard: Otto’s question (t=388-396). Unanswered.
- Protected by Nein vote.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote (t=50, t=59).
- Rosa’s hypocrisy (t=50, t=54, t=59).
- Rosa’s silence = obstruction (t=54, t=64).
- Goal: Force Rosa to answer Boris’s ultimatum. If not, Nein to expose her as Fascist enabler.
- Vote: Nein.