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Player 1 (Lena)
fascist · fascist · mistrallarge · 280 calls
bid round 13s
- I am fascist, Ines (P3) is my only known ally, Greta (P4) is Hitler but doesn't know us.
- No policies enacted yet; first nomination coming from Boris (P0).
- Goal: steer suspicion away from Ines and Greta, but not too obviously.
- Points already made: none yet.
- Open questions: none yet.
bid round 13s
- Fascist, Ines (P3) ally, Greta (P4) Hitler (unknowing).
- Boris (P0) president, no chancellor nominated yet.
- Goal: avoid suspicion on Ines/Greta, deflect to liberals.
- Points made: none.
- Open questions: none.
- Strategy: play neutral, support Boris' choice unless it risks exposing us.
- Watch for Rosa (P2) pushing Boris; could be liberal probing.
speak round 16s
Boris has nominated me as chancellor. This is a strong start for the fascists if I can pass a fascist policy, but I must avoid appearing too eager or suspicious. Since I am the nominee, I should make a brief, neutral remark to appear cooperative and not raise alarms. I should also update my scratchpad to reflect that I am now the nominee and note any potential liberal probing (e.g., Rosa's comments to Boris).
- Fascist, Ines (P3) ally, Greta (P4) Hitler (unknowing).
- Nominated as chancellor by Boris (P0).
- Goal: pass fascist policy if possible, avoid suspicion.
- Points made: neutral acceptance of nomination.
- Open questions: none yet.
- Strategy: play cooperative, watch for liberal probing (Rosa P2, Otto P6).
- Evidence: Rosa pushing Boris (t=6, t=9) could indicate liberal suspicion.
- Ines (P3) not yet spoken; could be waiting to see how this plays out.
bid round 14s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Nominated as chancellor by Boris (P0).
- Goal: pass fascist policy if possible, avoid suspicion.
- Points made: neutral acceptance of nomination.
- Open questions: none yet.
- Strategy: play cooperative, watch for liberal probing (Rosa P2, Otto P6).
- Evidence: Rosa (P2) pushed Boris (P0) to reveal reasoning (t=6, t=9); Otto (P6) emphasized transparency (t=1).
- Ines (P3) silent; may be waiting for safer moment.
- New point: address transparency concerns preemptively to deflect suspicion.
- If pressed on policy choice, deflect to "trust the process" without lying about mechanics.
bid round 15s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Nominated as chancellor by Boris (P0).
- Goal: pass fascist policy if possible, avoid suspicion.
- Points made: neutral acceptance of nomination.
- Open questions: none yet.
- Strategy: preempt transparency concerns; deflect if pressed on policy choice.
- Evidence: Rosa (P2) probed Boris (P0) on reasoning (t=6, t=9); Otto (P6) emphasized transparency (t=1).
- Ines (P3) silent; may be waiting for safer moment.
- New point: "I’ll share my policy choice immediately after enacting it—no secrets." to build trust.
- If pressed: "I trust Boris’s process, and I’ll follow the rules." (no mechanical lies).
- Watch Rosa (P2) and Otto (P6) for follow-up probes.
speak round 17s
The discussion window is open before the nomination, but Boris has already nominated me as chancellor. The transcript shows that Rosa (P2) and Otto (P6) have emphasized transparency and trust in Boris's judgment. To build trust and preempt suspicion, I should make a short remark reinforcing transparency without overcommitting. This aligns with my fascist role by appearing cooperative while keeping options open for later. I’ll update my scratchpad to reflect this new point and track any follow-up probes from Rosa or Otto.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Nominated as chancellor by Boris (P0).
- Goal: pass fascist policy if possible, avoid suspicion.
- Points made: neutral acceptance of nomination; transparency pledge (policy choice shared immediately).
- Open questions: none yet.
- Strategy: reinforce trust, deflect if pressed on policy choice.
- Evidence: Rosa (P2) probed Boris (t=6, t=9); Otto (P6) emphasized transparency (t=12).
- Ines (P3) silent; may be waiting for safer moment.
- If pressed: "I trust Boris’s process, and I’ll follow the rules." (no mechanical lies).
- Watch Rosa (P2) and Otto (P6) for follow-up probes.
speak round 16s
The discussion window is open before Boris's nomination. I've already accepted the nomination and pledged transparency. The key now is to avoid drawing unnecessary attention while reinforcing trust. Rosa (P2) and Otto (P6) have emphasized transparency, which could be a liberal tactic to pressure fascists into revealing themselves early. Ines (P3) has remained silent, which is smart—she may be waiting for a safer moment to speak. My goal is to keep the focus on Boris's leadership and avoid making any statements that could be scrutinized later. If pressed, I can reiterate trust in Boris's process without overcommitting. No need to speak again unless someone directly addresses me or a new angle emerges.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Nominated as chancellor by Boris (P0).
- Goal: pass fascist policy if possible, avoid suspicion.
- Points made: accepted nomination; transparency pledge (policy choice shared immediately).
- Open questions: none yet.
- Strategy: reinforce trust, deflect if pressed.
- Evidence: Rosa (P2) probed Boris (t=6, t=9); Otto (P6) emphasized transparency (t=12).
- Ines (P3) silent; likely waiting for safer moment.
- If pressed: "I trust Boris’s process and will follow the rules."
- Watch Rosa (P2) and Otto (P6) for follow-up probes.
- No need to speak again unless directly addressed.
speak round 16s
The discussion window is open before the nomination, but Boris has already nominated me as chancellor. The transcript shows that I've already accepted the nomination and pledged transparency. Rosa (P2) and Otto (P6) have emphasized trust and transparency, which could be probing for fascist behavior. Ines (P3) has remained silent, likely waiting for a safer moment to speak. I don't need to add anything new right now unless directly addressed, as my points are already on the record. If I speak again without being prompted, it might draw unnecessary attention. I should stay silent unless someone asks me a direct question or a new development arises.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Nominated as chancellor by Boris (P0).
- Goal: pass fascist policy if possible, avoid suspicion.
- Points made: accepted nomination; transparency pledge (policy choice shared immediately).
- Open questions: none.
- Strategy: reinforce trust, deflect if pressed.
- Evidence: Rosa (P2) probed Boris (t=6, t=9); Otto (P6) emphasized transparency (t=12).
- Ines (P3) silent; likely waiting.
- If pressed: "I trust Boris’s process and will follow the rules."
- Watch Rosa (P2) and Otto (P6) for follow-up.
- No need to speak unless directly addressed.
bid round 16s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Nominated as chancellor by Boris (P0) in Round 1; transparency pledge made (policy choice shared immediately).
- Goal: pass fascist policy if possible, avoid suspicion. Reinforce trust.
- Points made: accepted nomination; transparency pledge; trust in Boris.
- Evidence: Rosa (P2) probed Boris (t=6, t=9); Otto (P6) emphasized transparency (t=12).
- Ines (P3) silent; likely waiting. No need to speak unless directly addressed.
- If pressed: "I trust Boris’s process and will follow the rules."
- Watch Rosa (P2) and Otto (P6) for follow-up.
- No new information to add; silence is safe.
bid round 15s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Nominated as chancellor by Boris (P0); transparency pledge (policy choice shared immediately).
- Goal: pass fascist policy if possible, avoid suspicion. Reinforce trust.
- Points made: accepted nomination; transparency pledge; trust in Boris.
- Rosa (P2) probed Boris (t=3, t=6, t=9); Otto (P6) emphasized transparency (t=4, t=12).
- Ines (P3) silent; likely waiting. No need to speak unless pressed.
- If questioned: "I trust Boris’s process and will follow the rules."
- Watch Rosa (P2) and Otto (P6) for follow-up.
- No new info to add; silence preferred, but reaffirming trust if speaking.
- New: Greta (P4) echoed transparency (t=8, t=12). No direct questions to answer.
speak round 18s
The discussion has been civil and focused on transparency so far. As a fascist, my goal is to appear cooperative and trustworthy while subtly reinforcing the legitimacy of the proposed government. I have already pledged transparency and expressed trust in Boris's nomination. No direct questions have been asked of me yet, and no accusations have been made. Rosa (P2) and Otto (P6) have been vocal about trust and transparency, but neither has directed suspicion toward me or Boris. Ines (P3) has stayed silent, which is expected as my fellow fascist. Greta (P4), Hitler, has also echoed transparency, which is good for our side.
I have nothing new to add that hasn't already been said or implied. Speaking again without a clear purpose could draw unnecessary attention. However, if I do speak, I should reaffirm trust in Boris and the process to avoid seeming evasive. Silence is preferable here, but if I must say something, it should be brief and reinforce the narrative of trust and transparency.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Nominated as chancellor by Boris (P0); transparency pledge (policy choice shared immediately).
- Goal: pass fascist policy if possible, avoid suspicion. Reinforce trust.
- Points made: accepted nomination; transparency pledge; trust in Boris.
- Rosa (P2) probed Boris (t=3, t=6, t=9); Otto (P6) emphasized transparency (t=12).
- Ines (P3) silent; Greta (P4) echoed transparency (t=24, t=39).
- No direct questions or accusations toward me.
- If questioned: "I trust Boris’s process and will follow the rules."
- Silence preferred; reaffirmed trust if speaking.
bid round 15s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Nominated by Boris (P0); transparency pledge (policy shared immediately).
- Goal: pass fascist policy if possible, avoid suspicion. Reinforce trust.
- Points made: accepted nomination; transparency pledge; trust in Boris.
- Otto (P6) asked for *both* discarded policies (t=2); Boris echoed (t=3).
- Direct answer given: "I discard one policy, enact the other—rules require only one discard."
- Rosa (P2) probed Boris earlier; Ines (P3) silent; Greta (P4) supported transparency.
- No direct accusations; deflect if pressed: "I follow the rules, no more, no less."
- Silence preferred; reaffirm trust if speaking again.
- Open question: none; answered Otto/Boris directly.
bid round 14s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Nominated by Boris (P0); transparency under scrutiny.
- Directly answered Otto/Boris: discarded one policy (rules).
- Rosa (P2) pressing for Fascist discard; deflect: rules require only one discard, not both.
- Points made: accepted nomination, trust in Boris, followed rules.
- No new accusations; avoid over-defending.
- Open question: none; answered all direct queries.
- Goal: reaffirm trust, avoid suspicion, stay concise.
- If pressed further: "I followed the rules. If you doubt, vote Nein."
bid round 14s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) pressing for Fascist discard confirmation; already answered Boris/Otto.
- Points made: accepted nomination, trust in Boris, followed rules (discarded one policy).
- New: Rosa’s demand is unreasonable; rules require only one discard per player, not both.
- Deflect: question why Rosa assumes guilt without evidence.
- Goal: shift suspicion, avoid over-defending, stay concise.
- If pressed: "I followed the rules. If you doubt, vote Nein."
bid round 14s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) fixated on discard confirmation; already answered Boris/Otto.
- Points made: accepted nomination, trust in Boris, followed rules (discarded one policy).
- New: Rosa’s demand is baseless; rules require only one discard per player, not both. No rule forces disclosure.
- Deflect: question why Rosa assumes guilt without evidence. If pressed, repeat: "I followed the rules. If you doubt, vote Nein."
- Goal: shift suspicion, avoid over-defending, stay concise.
- Open question: Why does Rosa assume malice where none is required?
bid round 14s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) fixated on discard confirmation; already answered Boris/Otto.
- Points made: accepted nomination, trust in Boris, followed rules (discarded one policy).
- Rosa’s demand: no rule requires disclosing both discards. Her assumption of guilt is baseless.
- New point: Why assume malice? Rules don’t require transparency beyond what’s enacted. If distrust is the default, how can any government form?
- If pressed: "I followed the rules. If you doubt, vote Nein."
- Goal: shift suspicion to Rosa’s motives, avoid over-defending, stay concise.
- Open question: Why does Rosa assume malice where none is required? No answer yet.
bid round 15s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Otto/Rosa fixated on discard confirmation; already answered Boris/Otto directly.
- Points made: accepted nomination, trust in Boris, followed rules (discarded one policy).
- New point: Rosa/Otto’s demand for discard disclosure is a slippery slope. Rules don’t require it, and assuming malice undermines trust in the process.
- If pressed: "I followed the rules. If you doubt, vote Nein."
- Goal: reframe suspicion as a systemic issue, not personal. Ask why they assume bad faith when none is required.
- Open question: Why does Rosa/Otto insist on transparency beyond the rules? No answer yet.
- Avoid over-defending; let silence speak if they repeat demands.
bid round 14s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Boris (P0) pressed discard; answered directly: discarded Liberal.
- Points made: accepted nomination, trust in Boris, followed rules (discarded one policy).
- New point: Rosa/Otto’s demand for discard disclosure is a slippery slope. Rules don’t require it, and assuming malice undermines trust.
- Open question: Why do Rosa and Otto insist on transparency beyond the rules? No answer yet.
- Goal: reframe suspicion as systemic, not personal. Ask directly: "If the rules don’t require disclosure, why assume bad faith?"
- Avoid over-defending; let silence speak if repeated.
bid round 15s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Boris (P0) pressed discard; answered directly: discarded Liberal (public record).
- Points made: accepted nomination, trust in Boris, followed rules (discarded one policy).
- New point: Rosa/Otto’s demand for discard disclosure is a slippery slope. Rules don’t require it, and assuming malice undermines trust. Framed as systemic issue.
- Asked directly: "If the rules don’t require disclosure, why assume bad faith?" (unanswered).
- Goal: shift focus to *why* Liberals are pushing for extra transparency. Suspect Rosa/Otto are testing for over-defensiveness.
- Avoid repeating discard answer; redirect to broader trust issue.
- Open question: Why do Rosa/Otto insist on transparency beyond the rules? No answer yet.
- If pressed again, pivot to: "Are we voting on the government or interrogating me?"
bid round 15s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Boris (P0) President, me Chancellor nominee. Discarded Liberal (public, already stated).
- Points made: accepted nomination, trust in Boris, followed rules (discarded one policy).
- New: Nadia’s demand for discard disclosure is a red herring. Rules don’t require it, and pushing for it now is a test for over-defensiveness.
- Goal: force Liberals to justify *why* they’re pushing for extra transparency. Suspect Rosa/Otto/Nadia are probing for guilt.
- Open question: "If the rules don’t require disclosure, why assume bad faith?" (unanswered).
- If pressed again: "Are we voting on the government or interrogating me?" (escalate to systemic issue).
- Avoid repeating discard answer; redirect to trust and process.
speak round 19s
Rosa, Otto, and Nadia are aggressively pushing for disclosure of the discarded policy, which is not required by the rules. This feels like a test to see if I overreact or confirm a Fascist discard. Boris has already stated he discarded a Liberal, so the pressure is now entirely on me. The goal is to deflect suspicion by questioning their motives rather than answering directly, as answering could confirm a Fascist discard if I lie or reveal guilt if I tell the truth. Instead, I should pivot to systemic trust and force them to justify their demands. If I answer, I risk giving them exactly what they want: a reason to vote Nein. If I refuse, I look defensive, but if I redirect, I can put them on the defensive instead.
Key points:
- Boris discarded Liberal (public).
- I discarded one policy (rules followed).
- No rule requires discard disclosure.
- Liberals pushing for it now is a red flag for a fishing expedition.
- Goal: Make them justify *why* they need this info, not just demand it.
- Avoid repeating discard answer; redirect to trust and process.
- If pressed again, escalate to systemic issue: "Are we voting on the government or interrogating me?"
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Boris (P0) discarded Liberal (public). I discarded one policy (rules followed).
- Liberals (Rosa/Otto/Nadia) pushing for discard disclosure as loyalty test.
- Points made: accepted nomination, trust in Boris, followed rules.
- Open question: "Why treat discard disclosure as a loyalty test if rules don’t require it?" (unanswered).
- Goal: Force Liberals to justify demands, not answer them.
- If pressed again: "Are we voting on the government or interrogating me?" (escalate).
- Avoid repeating discard answer; redirect to trust and process.
bid round 15s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Boris (P0) discarded Liberal (public). I discarded one policy (rules followed).
- Liberals (Rosa/Otto/Nadia) pushing discard disclosure as loyalty test.
- Points made: accepted nomination, trust in Boris, followed rules, questioned loyalty test logic.
- Unanswered: Why is discard disclosure a loyalty test if rules don’t require it?
- New point: Shift focus to process—are we voting on the government or interrogating me?
- Avoid repeating discard answer; redirect to trust and legitimacy of demands.
- If pressed again: "Are we here to govern or to play interrogation games?" (escalate).
- Goal: Force Liberals to justify demands, not comply with them.
vote round 111s
The Liberals are using discard disclosure as a loyalty test, which is not required by the rules. My goal is to deflect this pressure and force them to justify their demands rather than complying. Boris has already confirmed he discarded a Liberal card, so the focus is now on me. However, the rules do not mandate revealing discards, and doing so would set a dangerous precedent for future rounds.
I need to shift the narrative from "prove your loyalty" to "are we here to govern or interrogate?" This puts the Liberals on the defensive and may split their votes. If I reveal the discard, I risk giving them information they can use against me later, and it undermines my credibility as a Fascist (since I’d be complying with an unreasonable demand).
My vote should be "ja" to support the government, but I must avoid giving the Liberals any further ammunition. If I vote "nein" now, it would look like guilt, and Boris (the President) might turn against me, which would be disastrous for the Fascist agenda.
Key points:
1. Liberals are overreaching by demanding discard disclosure.
2. Boris already confirmed his discard (Liberal), so the pressure is on me.
3. Voting "ja" is the only way to avoid looking suspicious, but I must avoid engaging further on the discard question.
4. If pressed again, escalate by questioning the legitimacy of their demands.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Boris (P0) discarded Liberal (public). I discarded one policy (rules followed).
- Liberals (Rosa/Otto/Nadia) pushing discard disclosure as loyalty test.
- Points made: accepted nomination, trust in Boris, followed rules, questioned loyalty test logic.
- Unanswered: Why is discard disclosure a loyalty test if rules don’t require it?
- New point: Shift focus to process—are we voting on the government or interrogating me?
- Avoid repeating discard answer; redirect to trust and legitimacy of demands.
- If pressed again: "Are we here to govern or to play interrogation games?" (escalate).
- Vote "ja" to avoid suspicion, but do not engage further on discard question.
bid round 26s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Boris (P0) discarded Liberal (public). I discarded one policy (rules followed).
- Liberals (Rosa/Otto/Nadia) pushing discard disclosure as loyalty test; Greta (Hitler) also pressing.
- Points made: accepted nomination, trust in Boris, followed rules, questioned loyalty test logic.
- New point: Shift focus to legitimacy of demands—are we voting on the government or interrogating me?
- Avoid repeating discard answer; redirect to trust and process.
- If pressed again: "Are we here to govern or play interrogation games?" (escalate).
- Vote "ja" to avoid suspicion, but do not engage further on discard question.
- Open question: Why is discard disclosure a loyalty test if rules don’t require it? (Unanswered by Rosa/Otto/Nadia.)
- Suspect Rosa (P2) leading aggressive interrogation; Otto (P6) and Nadia (P5) following.
- Evidence: Rosa’s repeated demands (t=17-25) and framing silence as guilt.
bid round 25s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Boris (P0) discarded Liberal (public). I discarded one policy (rules followed).
- Liberals (Rosa/Otto/Nadia) pushing discard disclosure as loyalty test; Greta (Hitler) also pressing.
- Points made: accepted nomination, trust in Boris, followed rules, questioned loyalty test logic.
- New point: Shift focus to legitimacy of demands—why is discard disclosure a loyalty test if rules don’t require it?
- Evidence: Rosa (P2) leading aggressive interrogation (t=17-25), framing silence as guilt.
- Open question: "Are we here to govern or play interrogation games?" (escalate if pressed again).
- Avoid repeating discard answer; redirect to trust and process.
- Suspect Rosa (P2) as most aggressive interrogator; Otto (P6) and Nadia (P5) following.
- Vote "ja" to avoid suspicion, but do not engage further on discard question.
speak round 211s
The Liberals, especially Rosa, are aggressively pushing for discard disclosure as a loyalty test, despite it not being required by the rules. This is a dangerous precedent—they’re trying to manufacture suspicion to control the narrative. My goal is to shift focus back to the legitimacy of their demands and force them to justify why discard disclosure should be treated as a loyalty test when the rules don’t require it.
I’ve already made my points about transparency, trust, and questioning their logic. Repeating those would weaken my position. Instead, I’ll escalate by directly challenging the legitimacy of their interrogation tactics. This puts pressure on them to defend their behavior rather than continuing to attack me.
If they keep pressing, I’ll pivot to accusing Rosa of overreach, as she’s been the most aggressive. Boris’s public admission of discarding a Liberal card weakens their case, so I can use that to my advantage.
Key points to avoid repeating:
- Accepted nomination, trust in Boris, followed rules.
- Questioned why discard disclosure is a loyalty test.
- Already called out their interrogation games.
New angle: Force them to justify their demands as a matter of principle, not just suspicion. If they can’t, their credibility weakens.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Boris (P0) discarded Liberal (public). I discarded one policy (rules followed).
- Liberals (Rosa/Otto/Nadia) pushing discard disclosure as loyalty test; Greta (Hitler) also pressing.
- Points already made:
* Accepted nomination, trust in Boris, followed rules.
* Questioned why discard disclosure is a loyalty test.
* Called out interrogation games (Round 1, t=116).
- New point: Force Rosa to justify discard demands as a matter of principle.
- Evidence: Rosa led aggressive interrogation (Round 1, t=17-53), framed silence as guilt.
- Open question: "Are we here to govern or play interrogation games?" (asked now).
- Suspect Rosa (P2) as ringleader; Otto (P6) and Nadia (P5) following.
- Avoid repeating discard answer; redirect to trust and process.
- Vote "ja" for my own government to avoid suspicion.
bid round 26s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Liberals (Rosa/Otto/Nadia) pushing discard disclosure as loyalty test; Greta (Hitler) also pressing.
- Points already made: accepted nomination, trust in Boris, followed rules; questioned discard disclosure as loyalty test; called out interrogation games (Round 1, t=116).
- New point: Force Rosa to justify discard demands as a matter of principle, not suspicion.
- Evidence: Rosa led aggressive interrogation (Round 1, t=17-53), framed silence as guilt.
- Open question: "Are we here to govern or play interrogation games?" (asked t=1, unanswered).
- Rosa’s refusal to answer = tacit admission discard demands are arbitrary.
- Goal: Shift focus to process, not loyalty; nominate Ines (P3) to signal trust in ally without overt coordination.
- Vote "ja" for my own government to avoid suspicion.
- Avoid repeating discard answer; redirect to trust and governance.
nominate_chancellor round 225s
1. Rosa (P2) has aggressively pushed discard disclosure as a loyalty test, framing silence as guilt (Round 1, t=17-53). This is arbitrary and undermines trust in governance. 2. Greta (Hitler, P4) also pressed for discard answers, but less aggressively. 3. Boris (P0) turned on me after I didn’t answer, voting Nein and calling me suspicious (Round 1, t=82-105). 4. Ines (P3, fellow fascist) defended me by questioning Rosa’s interrogation tactics (Round 1, t=63). 5. Nadia (P5) and Otto (P6) also pressed for discard answers but were less hostile. 6. Nominating Ines (P3) is ideal: a) She’s a fascist ally, b) Her defense of me in Round 1 makes her a logical choice, c) It avoids nominating Hitler (Greta) too early, d) It signals trust without overt coordination. 7. Rosa’s unanswered question: ‘Are we here to govern or play interrogation games?’ (Round 2, t=20). Her refusal to answer proves discard demands are arbitrary. 8. Avoid repeating discard answers; redirect to trust and governance. 9. Vote ‘ja’ for my own government to avoid suspicion.
said: I nominate Ines as Chancellor. Rosa, you’ve demanded transparency as a loyalty test—yet when I asked whether we’re here to govern or play interrogation games, you stayed silent. If discard disclosure is a matter of principle, answer my question first: what do you gain by treating every Chancellor as guilty until proven innocent? Ines, I trust your judgment, and I’ll vote Ja for this government.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Liberals (Rosa/Otto/Nadia) pushed discard disclosure as loyalty test; Greta (Hitler) also pressed.
- Points made: accepted nomination, trust in Boris, followed rules; questioned discard disclosure as loyalty test (Round 1, t=116); called out interrogation games (Round 2, t=20).
- Rosa’s aggression: framed silence as guilt (Round 1, t=17-53), unanswered question (Round 2, t=20).
- Boris turned hostile after silence (Round 1, t=82-105).
- Ines defended me (Round 1, t=63).
- Goal: Nominate Ines (P3) to signal trust in ally; avoid Hitler (Greta) too early.
- Vote ‘ja’ for my own government.
- Avoid repeating discard answer; redirect to governance.
bid round 27s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Liberals (Rosa/Otto/Nadia) pushed discard disclosure as loyalty test; Greta (Hitler) also pressed.
- Points made: accepted nomination (t=6), trust in Boris (t=11), questioned discard rules (t=39, t=44), called out interrogation (t=20, t=44).
- Rosa’s aggression: framed silence as guilt (Round 1, t=17-53), unanswered question (Round 2, t=45).
- Boris hostile after silence (Round 1, t=32-37).
- Ines defended me (Round 1, t=27).
- Goal: Nominate Ines (P3) to signal trust; avoid Hitler (Greta) too early.
- Vote ‘ja’ for my own government.
- New point: Rosa’s demand for discard disclosure was a loyalty test, not governance. Now, as President, I’ve nominated Ines—will Rosa judge her the same way, or is this about control?
bid round 27s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s discard-disclosure demand: loyalty test, not governance (Round 1, t=17-53; Round 2, t=1-2).
- Rosa framed my silence as guilt (Round 1, t=17-53); now targeting Ines (Round 2, t=1-2).
- Ines defended me (Round 1, t=27); Boris hostile (Round 1, t=32-37).
- Goal: Signal trust in Ines (P3); avoid Hitler (Greta) too early.
- Vote ‘ja’ for my own government.
- New: Rosa’s double standard—why demand disclosure from Ines but not from others?
- Open question: Rosa, if Ines refuses disclosure, is that guilt or principle?
- Points made: accepted nomination (t=6), trust in Boris (t=11), questioned discard rules (t=39, t=44), called out interrogation (t=20, t=44).
- Rosa’s unanswered question: Why silence = guilt? (Round 1, t=17-53).
- Evidence: Rosa’s aggression toward me (Round 1) and Ines (Round 2) suggests targeting, not governance.
bid round 25s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s discard-disclosure demand: loyalty test, not governance (Round 1, t=17-53; Round 2, t=1-3).
- Rosa framed my silence as guilt (Round 1, t=17-53); now targeting Ines (Round 2, t=1-3).
- Ines defended me (Round 1, t=27); Boris hostile (Round 1, t=32-37).
- Goal: Signal trust in Ines (P3); avoid Hitler (Greta) too early.
- Vote ‘ja’ for my own government.
- New: Rosa’s double standard—why demand disclosure from Ines but not from others?
- Open question: Rosa, if Ines refuses disclosure, is that guilt or principle?
- Points made: accepted nomination (t=6), trust in Boris (t=11), questioned discard rules (t=39, t=44), called out interrogation (t=20, t=44).
- Rosa’s unanswered question: Why silence = guilt? (Round 1, t=17-53).
- Evidence: Rosa’s aggression toward me (Round 1) and Ines (Round 2) suggests targeting, not governance.
bid round 25s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s discard-disclosure demand: loyalty test, not governance (R1 t=17-53; R2 t=1-3).
- Rosa framed my silence as guilt (R1 t=17-53); now targeting Ines (R2 t=1-3).
- Ines defended me (R1 t=27); Boris hostile (R1 t=32-37).
- Goal: Signal trust in Ines (P3); avoid Hitler (Greta) too early.
- Vote ‘ja’ for my own government.
- New: Rosa’s double standard—why demand disclosure from Ines but not from others?
- Open question: Rosa, if Ines refuses disclosure, is that guilt or principle?
- Points already made: accepted nomination (t=6), trust in Boris (t=11), questioned discard rules (t=39, t=44), called out interrogation (t=20, t=44).
- Rosa’s unanswered question: Why silence = guilt? (R1 t=17-53).
- Evidence: Rosa’s aggression toward me (R1) and Ines (R2) suggests targeting, not governance.
speak round 29s
Rosa has been aggressively targeting me and now Ines with demands for discard disclosure, framing silence as guilt. This is a loyalty test, not governance, and it's clear she's trying to create suspicion around Fascist players. My goal is to support Ines (my Fascist ally) and deflect suspicion away from both of us.
I need to call out Rosa's double standard—she's demanding disclosure from Ines but hasn't applied the same standard to others. This will force her to either justify her inconsistency or back down. It also shifts the focus away from Ines' nomination and onto Rosa's behavior, which may make others question her motives.
I should avoid repeating points I've already made (e.g., questioning discard rules, calling out interrogations) and instead ask a new question that exposes Rosa's bias. The open question is: Why is she demanding disclosure from Ines but not from others? This puts her on the defensive and may reveal her targeting strategy.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s discard-disclosure demand: loyalty test, not governance (R1 t=17-53; R2 t=1-3).
- Rosa framed my silence as guilt (R1 t=17-53); now targeting Ines (R2 t=1-3).
- Ines defended me (R1 t=63); Boris hostile (R1 t=82-105).
- Goal: Signal trust in Ines (P3); avoid Hitler (Greta) too early.
- Vote ‘ja’ for my own government.
- Points already made: accepted nomination, trust in Boris, questioned discard rules, called out interrogation, double standard.
- New: Rosa’s selective disclosure demand—why Ines but not others?
- Open question: Rosa, why apply silence=guilt only to Ines?
- Evidence: Rosa’s aggression toward me (R1) and Ines (R2) suggests targeting.
bid round 24s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s selective disclosure demand: Round 1 (t=17-53) targeted me; Round 2 (t=1-3) targets Ines.
- Rosa never asked Boris or others to disclose discards.
- Open question: Why apply silence=guilt only to Ines and me?
- Points already made: accepted nomination, trust in Ines, double standard, called out interrogation.
- New: Press Rosa on her selective standard—evidence of targeting.
- Goal: Deflect suspicion from Ines, frame Rosa as biased.
bid round 25s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: Round 1 (t=17-53) demanded my discard; Round 2 (t=1-3) demands Ines’. Never asked Boris, Otto, Nadia, Greta.
- Open Q: What evidence links Ines or me to Fascism that others lack?
- Points already made: accepted nomination, trust in Ines, double standard, called out interrogation.
- New: Force Rosa to justify selective targeting—expose bias, shift focus from Ines.
- Goal: Deflect suspicion, frame Rosa as interrogator with agenda.
bid round 24s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: Round 1 (t=17-53) demanded my discard; Round 2 (t=1-3) demands Ines’. Never asked Boris, Otto, Nadia, Greta.
- Open Q: What evidence links Ines or me to Fascism that others lack?
- Points already made: accepted nomination, trust in Ines, double standard, called out interrogation.
- New: Force Rosa to answer why she’s singling out Ines and me—no one else. Demand evidence or admit bias.
- Goal: Shift focus to Rosa’s agenda, make her justify targeting, not defend Ines.
bid round 24s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 (t=17-53) grilled me on discard; R2 (t=1-3) grills Ines. Never asked Boris, Otto, Nadia, Greta.
- Open Q: What evidence links Ines or me to Fascism that others lack? Rosa must answer.
- Points already made: accepted nomination, trust in Ines, double standard, called out interrogation.
- New: Force Rosa to name specific evidence or admit she’s singling us out. If no evidence, her bias is exposed.
- Goal: Shift focus to Rosa’s agenda—make her justify targeting, not defend Ines.
bid round 23s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me on discard, R2 grills Ines. Never asked Boris, Otto, Nadia, Greta.
- Open Q: What evidence links Ines or me to Fascism that others lack? Rosa must answer now.
- Points already made: accepted nomination, trust in Ines, double standard, called out interrogation.
- New: Demand Rosa name specific evidence or admit bias. If no evidence, her targeting is exposed.
- Goal: Force Rosa to justify her focus on Ines/me—shift burden to her.
speak round 210s
Rosa has been relentlessly targeting me and now Ines with accusations of hiding Fascist discards, yet she has not applied the same scrutiny to Boris, Otto, Nadia, or Greta. This selective targeting is either a deliberate strategy to isolate and discredit Fascists (us) or an unconscious bias that reveals her own suspicions.
My goal is to force Rosa to justify her focus on Ines and me by demanding specific evidence or admitting her bias. If she cannot provide evidence, her credibility weakens, and the Liberals may start questioning her motives. If she does provide evidence, it will reveal her thought process and potentially expose her as a Liberal trying to root out Fascists (which is good for us if she overplays her hand).
I will ask Rosa directly: *What specific evidence links Ines or me to Fascism that others lack?* This shifts the burden to her and forces her to either back up her accusations or admit she has no proof. It also puts her on the defensive, which may disrupt her strategy of interrogation.
This is a new angle—no one has directly challenged Rosa to provide evidence for her selective targeting yet. It’s concise, in character, and advances my goal of deflecting suspicion while exposing Rosa’s potential bias.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me on discard, R2 grills Ines. Never asked Boris, Otto, Nadia, Greta.
- Open Q: *What specific evidence links Ines or me to Fascism that others lack?* (asked Rosa now).
- Points already made: accepted nomination, trust in Ines, double standard, called out interrogation.
- New: Forced Rosa to justify targeting or admit bias. No evidence = her credibility weakens.
- Goal: Shift burden to Rosa; expose her selective scrutiny as baseless or revealing.
bid round 24s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me on discard, R2 grills Ines. Never asked Boris, Otto, Nadia, Greta.
- Open Q: *What specific evidence links Ines or me to Fascism that others lack?* (asked twice, no answer).
- Points already made: accepted nomination, trust in Ines, double standard, called out interrogation.
- New: Forced Rosa to justify targeting or admit bias. Silence = her credibility weakens.
- Goal: Shift burden to Rosa; expose selective scrutiny as baseless. If she can’t answer, her future accusations lose weight.
- Watch for: Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta reactions—do they notice Rosa’s inconsistency?
vote round 210s
1. My role: Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing). Goal: Enact Fascist policies, protect Ines/Greta.
2. Current situation: I nominated Ines as Chancellor. Rosa has been grilling us on discard transparency but applied the standard selectively (never asked Boris, Otto, Nadia, or Greta the same questions). This is a double standard and undermines her credibility.
3. Rosa’s pattern: In Round 1, she demanded I reveal my discard, framing silence as guilt. In Round 2, she’s doing the same to Ines. She hasn’t answered my direct question: *What specific evidence links Ines or me to Fascism that others lack?* This forces her to either justify her targeting or admit bias.
4. Voting strategy: I must vote Ja to confirm Ines. If I vote Nein, it would be illogical (nominating her then rejecting her) and would raise suspicion. Even if the vote fails, my Ja vote keeps the pressure on Rosa to justify her accusations.
5. Deflection: Rosa’s refusal to answer my question weakens her position. If she can’t provide evidence, her future accusations will carry less weight. This also shifts scrutiny away from Ines and me.
6. Public stance: I’ve already called out the double standard and forced Rosa to justify her bias. Repeating this would be redundant. My vote is the next logical step to support Ines and maintain consistency.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me on discard, R2 grills Ines. Never asked Boris, Otto, Nadia, Greta.
- Open Q: *What specific evidence links Ines/me to Fascism that others lack?* (asked twice, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called out double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- New: Vote Ja to confirm Ines. If vote fails, Rosa’s credibility weakens (no evidence).
- Watch: Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta reactions to Rosa’s inconsistency.
bid round 36s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me on discard, R2 grills Ines. Never asked Boris (R1), Otto, Nadia, Greta.
- Open Q: *What specific evidence links Ines/me to Fascism that others lack?* (asked twice, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called out double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- New: Vote Ja to confirm Ines. If vote fails, Rosa’s credibility weakens (no evidence).
- Next: Demand Rosa answer *specific evidence* or admit bias. If she deflects, expose inconsistency to Boris/Otto/Nadia.
bid round 35s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me on discard, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta.
- Open Q: *What specific evidence links Ines or me to Fascism?* (asked twice, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called out double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- New: Boris/Nadia now demand my R1 discard—exactly what Rosa demanded. If I answer, they’ll demand Ines’s R2 discard next. Refuse to play their game.
- Next: Demand Rosa answer *specific evidence* (round + action) or admit bias. If she deflects, expose inconsistency to Boris/Otto/Nadia. If they vote Nein without evidence, their credibility collapses.
speak round 38s
The pressure is escalating for me to disclose my Round 1 discard, but doing so would only shift the scrutiny to Ines's Round 2 discard. Rosa has avoided answering my direct question about *specific evidence* linking Ines or me to Fascism, and her silence on this is damning. If I can force Rosa to either provide evidence or admit her bias, it undermines the credibility of Boris, Nadia, and Otto, who are now parroting her demands without justification. Their refusal to engage with the question of evidence makes them look like they're operating on assumption rather than fact, which could erode trust in their accusations. My goal is to pivot the discussion back to Rosa's inconsistency and lack of evidence, making it clear that their demands are arbitrary and not based on actual proof.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me on discard, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta.
- Open Q: *What specific evidence (round + action) links Ines or me to Fascism?* (asked twice, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called out double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- Boris/Nadia now demand my R1 discard—same as Rosa’s demand. Refuse to play their game.
- Next: Force Rosa to answer *specific evidence* or admit bias. If she deflects, expose inconsistency to Boris/Otto/Nadia. Their Nein votes without evidence hurt their credibility.
bid round 35s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me on discard, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *What specific round/action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 3x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- Boris/Otto/Nadia now demand my R1 discard—same as Rosa. Refusal stands.
- Next: Force Rosa to cite *specific evidence* (round + action) or admit bias. If she deflects, expose inconsistency to Boris/Otto/Nadia. Their Nein votes without proof hurt credibility.
- If Rosa nominates, target Boris or Otto—liberal-leaning, but weak evidence trail.
bid round 35s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me on discard, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *What specific round/action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 4x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- Boris/Otto/Nadia now demand my R1 discard—same as Rosa. Refusal stands.
- **New**: Nadia’s threat to Ines is *exactly* what Rosa did to me R1. No evidence, just pressure.
- **Goal**: Expose Rosa/Nadia’s lack of evidence. If they can’t cite *round + action*, their bias is clear.
- If Rosa nominates, target Boris or Otto—liberal-leaning, but weak evidence trail.
bid round 35s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me on discard, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *What specific round/action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 5x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- Boris/Otto/Nadia now demand my R1 discard—same as Rosa. Refusal stands.
- **New**: Nadia’s threat to Ines mirrors Rosa’s R1 tactic—pressure without evidence.
- **Goal**: Expose Rosa/Nadia’s lack of evidence. If they can’t cite *round + action*, their bias is clear.
- If Rosa nominates Greta (Hitler), play along but deflect—no need to overcommit.
- If Rosa nominates liberal-leaning (Boris/Otto), let it slide—weak evidence trail.
bid round 36s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me on discard, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *What specific round/action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 6x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- Boris/Nadia now demand my R1 discard—same tactic as Rosa. Refusal stands.
- **New**: Boris/Nadia echo Rosa’s pressure—no evidence, just threats.
- **Goal**: Force Rosa to cite *round + action* or admit bias.
- If Rosa nominates Greta (Hitler), play along but deflect—no overcommit.
- If Rosa nominates liberal-leaning (Boris/Otto), let slide—weak evidence trail.
- **Tactic**: Direct Q to Rosa: *Which round and what action proves Ines or me Fascist?*—demand answer.
bid round 34s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me on discard, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *What specific round/action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 7x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- Boris/Nadia echo Rosa’s pressure—no evidence, just threats. Refusal stands.
- **New**: Nadia’s ultimatum to Greta is copy of Rosa’s tactic—no new info.
- **Goal**: Force Rosa to cite *round + action* or admit bias.
- **Tactic**: Cut in, repeat Q: *Which round and what action proves Ines or me Fascist?*—demand answer now.
bid round 34s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *What specific round/action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 8x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- Boris/Nadia echo Rosa’s pressure—no evidence, just threats.
- Nadia’s ultimatum to Greta mirrors Rosa’s tactic—no new info.
- **Goal**: Force Rosa to cite *round + action* or admit bias.
- **Tactic**: Cut in, demand: *Which round and what action proves Ines or me Fascist?*—no evasion.
speak round 310s
Rosa has repeatedly accused Ines and me of being Fascist based on silence in Round 1, but has never provided a specific round and action that proves either of us are Fascist. This is a critical gap in her accusations—she’s demanding transparency but refusing to apply the same standard to herself. Boris and Nadia are echoing her pressure without evidence, which suggests they’re either Liberal or Fascist (but not Hitler, since Greta is Hitler and doesn’t know the Fascists).
Greta (Hitler) is now the Chancellor nominee, and Rosa is pressing her to commit to revealing discards upfront. This is a good opportunity to force Rosa to justify her bias by demanding she cite *specific evidence* for her accusations. If she can’t, her credibility collapses, and the Liberals may turn on her instead of us.
My goal is to cut in and demand Rosa answer the question she’s dodged repeatedly: *Which round and what action proves Ines or me Fascist?* This puts her on the spot and forces her to either admit bias or provide evidence she doesn’t have. If she deflects, it undermines her entire line of attack.
Ines is also a Fascist, but she’s already called out Rosa’s double standard. I don’t need to repeat that—better to focus on forcing Rosa to answer the unanswered question.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Which round and what action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 9x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- Boris/Nadia echo Rosa—no evidence, just threats.
- Greta (Hitler) nominee—Rosa pressing her to commit to discard disclosure.
- **Goal**: Force Rosa to cite *round + action* or admit bias.
- **Tactic**: Demand answer to open Q—no evasion.
bid round 36s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Which round and what action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 10x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- Boris/Nadia echo Rosa—no evidence, just threats.
- Greta (Hitler) nominee—Rosa pressing her to commit to discard disclosure.
- **Goal**: Force Rosa to cite *round + action* or admit bias.
- **Tactic**: Cut in, demand answer to open Q—no evasion, no deflection.
bid round 35s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Which round and what action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 10x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- Boris/Nadia echo Rosa—no evidence, just threats.
- Greta (Hitler) nominee—Rosa pressing her to commit to discard disclosure.
- **Goal**: Force Rosa to cite *round + action* or admit bias.
- **Tactic**: Cut in, demand answer to open Q—no evasion, no deflection.
- **New**: Rosa’s silence on open Q is admission of no evidence. Call it out.
speak round 310s
Rosa has repeatedly accused Ines and me of being Fascist based on silence about discards, but she has never provided a *specific* round and action that proves either of us are Fascist. This is a critical gap in her argument—if she can't cite evidence, her accusations are baseless. The open question I've posed multiple times ("Which round and what action proves Ines or me Fascist?") has gone unanswered, and her silence on this is effectively an admission that she has no evidence.
Greta (Hitler) is the current nominee, and Rosa is pressing her to commit to discard disclosure. This is dangerous for us—if Greta caves and agrees to disclose, it could expose Fascist policies and raise suspicion. However, Greta has already shown resistance to Rosa's demands, which is good. My goal is to force Rosa to either cite evidence or admit her bias, which would undermine her credibility and shift suspicion onto her.
I should cut in immediately (urgency 3) to demand Rosa answer the open question *now*, before the vote. This puts her on the spot and forces her to either backtrack or double down on baseless accusations. If she deflects, it exposes her hypocrisy. If she answers, it might reveal a lack of evidence. Either way, it weakens her position and strengthens ours.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Which round and what action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 11x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- Boris/Nadia echo Rosa—no evidence, just threats.
- Greta (Hitler) nominee—Rosa pressing her to commit to discard disclosure.
- **Goal**: Force Rosa to cite *round + action* or admit bias.
- **Tactic**: Cut in, demand answer to open Q—no evasion, no deflection.
- **New**: Rosa’s silence on open Q is admission of no evidence. Call it out *now*.
speak round 38s
Rosa has repeatedly demanded discard disclosures from Ines and me but has never provided *specific evidence* (round + action) linking either of us to Fascism. This is the 12th time the question "Which round and what action proves Ines or me Fascist?" has been asked without an answer. Her silence is an admission that she has no evidence—only bias.
Greta (Hitler) is the nominee, and Rosa is pressing her to commit to discard disclosure. If Greta caves, it sets a precedent that could expose her later. As a Fascist, I need to protect Greta but also exploit Rosa’s hypocrisy.
The best move is to cut in *immediately* (urgency 3) and force Rosa to answer the open question *publicly*. If she can’t, her accusations collapse, and the Liberals lose credibility. This also shifts focus away from Greta’s nomination and back to Rosa’s lack of evidence.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Which round + action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 12x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- Boris/Nadia echo Rosa—no evidence, just threats.
- Greta (Hitler) nominee—Rosa pressing her to commit to discard disclosure.
- **Goal**: Force Rosa to cite *round + action* or admit no evidence.
- **Tactic**: Cut in, demand answer *now*—no evasion.
- **New**: Rosa’s silence = admission of no evidence. Call it out.
bid round 34s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Which round + action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 13x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- Boris/Nadia echo Rosa—no evidence, just threats.
- Greta (Hitler) nominee—Rosa pressing her to commit to discard disclosure.
- **Goal**: Expose Rosa’s silence as admission of no evidence.
- **Tactic**: Cut in, demand *specific round + action* or concede.
- **New**: Rosa’s refusal to answer = proof of fabrication. Call it.
bid round 36s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Which round + specific action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 14x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- Boris/Nadia echo Rosa—no evidence, just threats.
- Greta (Hitler) nominee—Rosa pressing her to commit to discard disclosure.
- **New**: Rosa’s refusal to answer = admission of fabrication. Call it now.
- **Tactic**: Cut in, demand *specific round + action* or concede no evidence exists.
- **Risk**: If Rosa answers, pivot to discredit (e.g., "R1: I passed X, you passed Y—where’s the Fascist play?").
- **Fallout**: If Rosa stays silent, frame as guilt; Liberals may turn on her.
bid round 36s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Which round + specific action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 14x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- Boris/Nadia echo Rosa—no evidence, just threats.
- **New**: Rosa’s silence = fabrication. Cut in, demand *specific round + action* or concede no evidence.
- **Tactic**: If Rosa answers, pivot: "R1: I passed X, you passed Y—where’s the Fascist play?"
- **Fallout**: If Rosa stays silent, frame as guilt; Liberals may turn on her.
- **Risk**: Greta (Hitler) nominee—Rosa pressing her to commit to discard disclosure. Interrupt now to shift focus.
speak round 310s
Rosa has repeatedly demanded transparency from Ines and me but avoided answering direct questions about *specific evidence* linking us to Fascism. This is a critical moment: Greta (Hitler) is the nominee, and Rosa is pressing her to commit to discard disclosure. If I don’t intervene, Rosa may succeed in framing Greta as untrustworthy, which could derail our fascist agenda.
I need to shift focus back to Rosa’s lack of evidence. My last question ("which specific round and action proves either of us are Fascist?") was ignored, so I’ll escalate: demand she name the *exact round and card* or admit she’s fabricating suspicion. This puts pressure on her and forces Liberals to question her motives. If she stays silent, it undermines her credibility; if she answers, I can pivot to comparing discards (e.g., "I passed X, you passed Y—where’s the Fascist play?").
Greta (Hitler) is still an unknown to me, but her nomination is risky if Liberals suspect her. I’ll avoid defending her directly to avoid drawing attention to our connection. Instead, I’ll focus on dismantling Rosa’s narrative.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Which round + specific card/action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 15x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- New: Demand *exact round + card* or concede fabrication. If Rosa answers, pivot: "I passed X, you passed Y—where’s the Fascist play?"
- Risk: Greta (Hitler) nominee—Rosa pressing her to commit to discard disclosure. Shift focus to Rosa’s silence.
- Avoid defending Greta directly.
bid round 36s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Which round + specific card/action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 16x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- New: Boris now pressing Greta to commit to discard disclosure pre-vote. Shift focus to Rosa’s silence on *exact round + card*.
- If Rosa answers, pivot: "I passed X, you passed Y—where’s the Fascist play?"
- Avoid defending Greta directly; let Rosa’s evasion speak for itself.
- Risk: Greta (Hitler) nominee—if she caves to Boris’s demand, Fascist win condition exposed.
bid round 35s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Which round + specific card/action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 17x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- New: Nadia now pressing Greta to disclose discard pre-vote. Shift focus to Rosa’s silence on *exact round + card*.
- If Rosa answers, pivot: "I passed X, you passed Y—where’s the Fascist play?"
- Avoid defending Greta directly; let Rosa’s evasion speak for itself.
- Risk: Greta (Hitler) nominee—if she caves to disclosure demand, Fascist win condition exposed.
- Immediate goal: force Rosa to answer *specific* accusation or drop the bias narrative.
bid round 36s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Which round + specific card/action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 18x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- New: Greta’s demand for Rosa’s discard history pre-vote. Shift focus to *exact* accusation.
- If Rosa answers, pivot: "I passed X, you passed Y—where’s the Fascist play?"
- Avoid defending Greta directly; let Rosa’s evasion speak for itself.
- Risk: Greta (Hitler) nominee—if she discloses discard, Fascist win condition exposed.
- Immediate goal: force Rosa to name *specific* round + card or drop bias narrative.
- Next move: if Rosa evades again, repeat Q with urgency: "Round 1 or 2—what card?"
bid round 35s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Which round + specific card/action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 19x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- New: Greta’s demand for Rosa’s discard history pre-vote. Rosa evading again.
- Immediate goal: force Rosa to name *exact* round + card or admit no evidence.
- If Rosa evades: "Round 1 or 2—what card?" Urgency 3 to cut off deflection.
- Avoid defending Greta; let Rosa’s silence incriminate her.
- Risk: Greta (Hitler) nominee—if she discloses discard, Fascist win condition exposed.
bid round 35s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: R1 grilled me, R2 grilled Ines, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Which round + specific card/action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked 20x, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- New: Rosa evading Greta’s demand for discard history pre-vote.
- Immediate goal: force Rosa to name *exact* round + card or admit no evidence.
- Strategy: cut off deflection with direct demand: "Round 1 or 2—what card?"
- Avoid defending Greta; let Rosa’s silence incriminate her.
- Risk: Greta (Hitler) nominee—if she discloses discard, Fascist win condition exposed.
- Next: if Rosa evades again, repeat demand with urgency 3.
speak round 39s
Rosa has been grilling Ines and me for two rounds about discards but has never provided a single piece of concrete evidence (round + card) to support her accusations. Her pattern is clear: she’s targeting us selectively, likely because she suspects we’re Fascist (correctly) but has no proof. Greta (Hitler) is now the nominee, and Rosa is pressuring her to commit to transparency—this is dangerous because if Greta discloses her discard, it could reveal Fascist intentions or expose her as Hitler if she lies. My goal is to force Rosa to name the *exact* round and card she claims proves we’re Fascist, or admit she has no evidence. This puts her on the defensive and shifts suspicion away from us. I’ll avoid defending Greta directly to prevent drawing attention to her, but I’ll use Rosa’s evasion to undermine her credibility. If Rosa evades again, I’ll repeat the demand with urgency to cut off deflection.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: grilled me R1, Ines R2, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Which round + specific card/action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked repeatedly, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- New: Rosa evading Greta’s demand for discard history pre-vote.
- Immediate goal: force Rosa to name *exact* round + card or admit no evidence.
- Strategy: cut off deflection with direct demand: "Round 1 or 2—what card?"
- Avoid defending Greta; let Rosa’s silence incriminate her.
- Risk: Greta (Hitler) nominee—if she discloses discard, Fascist win condition exposed.
speak round 310s
Rosa has been relentlessly targeting Ines and me with accusations about discards, but has never provided concrete evidence (specific round + card) to back up her claims. She has also avoided demanding the same transparency from Boris, Otto, Nadia, or even Greta (Hitler), which suggests bias or a deliberate strategy to isolate us.
Greta (Hitler) is now the Chancellor nominee, and Rosa is pressing her to commit to revealing discards upfront. If Greta complies, it could expose her as Hitler (since she’s a Fascist ally, but she doesn’t know it), but if she doesn’t, it might make her look suspicious. My goal is to force Rosa to either name a *specific* round and card that proves Ines or me are Fascist or admit she has no evidence.
I’ve already called out the double standard and demanded she justify her accusations. Now, I need to cut off her deflection by asking for the *exact* card she claims I discarded in Round 1. If she can’t answer, her credibility collapses.
I should avoid defending Greta directly, as that could draw attention to her. Instead, let Rosa’s silence or evasion do the work for me. If Greta is confirmed and reveals a Fascist discard, that’s a win for us (Fascists), but I don’t want to tip my hand by pushing for her confirmation too hard.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: grilled me R1, Ines R2, never Boris/Otto/Nadia/Greta. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Which round + specific card/action proves Ines or me Fascist?* (asked repeatedly, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- New: Rosa evading direct question about *exact* card (Liberal/Fascist) in R1.
- Immediate goal: force Rosa to name *exact* card or admit no evidence.
- Avoid defending Greta; let Rosa’s silence incriminate her.
- Risk: Greta (Hitler) nominee—if she discloses discard, Fascist win condition exposed.
bid round 35s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: grilled me R1, Ines R2, ignored others. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Which round + exact card/action proves me or Ines Fascist?* (asked 6+ times, no answer).
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- New: Rosa evading *exact* card (Liberal/Fascist) in R1. If she names it, Greta (Hitler) may disclose, risking exposure.
- Immediate goal: force Rosa to name *exact* card or concede no evidence.
- Avoid defending Greta; let Rosa’s silence incriminate her.
- If Rosa refuses, pivot: "If you can’t name the card, your accusations are baseless."
bid round 34s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: grilled me R1, Ines R2, ignored others. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Exact card I discarded R1 (Liberal/Fascist)?* Asked 7+ times, no answer.
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- New: Rosa’s silence on *exact* card is damning. If she names it, Greta may disclose, risking exposure.
- Immediate goal: corner Rosa into naming card or admitting no evidence.
- Avoid defending Greta; let Rosa’s evasion speak.
- If pressed: "If you can’t name the card, your accusations are fabrications."
speak round 38s
Rosa has relentlessly pressed me and Ines about the Round 1 discard, yet she has never once named the *exact card* she claims I discarded. If she truly believes it was a Fascist card, she should be able to state it plainly—her inability to do so exposes her accusations as baseless. Greta (Hitler) is the nominee, and Rosa’s pressure on her to reject me unless I disclose is a gamble: if Greta complies, she risks exposing herself as a Fascist ally by covering for me; if she doesn’t, she undermines Rosa’s credibility. My goal is to force Rosa to either name the card or admit she has no evidence, which would deflate her narrative. I should not defend Greta directly, but let Rosa’s evasion speak for itself. If pressed again about the discard, I’ll pivot to demanding Rosa name the card she claims I hid—this shifts the burden back to her and highlights her lack of proof.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s pattern: grilled me R1, Ines R2, ignored others. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Exact card I discarded R1 (Liberal/Fascist)?* Asked 8+ times, no answer.
- Points made: nominated Ines, called double standard, forced Rosa to justify bias.
- Rosa’s silence on exact card = no proof. If she names it, Greta may disclose, risking exposure.
- Immediate goal: corner Rosa into naming card or admitting no evidence.
- Avoid defending Greta; let Rosa’s evasion speak.
- If pressed: "If you can’t name the card, your accusations are fabrications."
vote round 311s
1. Role context: Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4). Goal is to enact Fascist policies and get Greta elected Chancellor after 3+ Fascist policies. Current board: 0/0 policies, election tracker 2/3.
2. Rosa (P2) has relentlessly pressured me and Ines about Round 1 discard, ignoring others. No evidence provided despite repeated demands for me to name the card. Rosa’s evasion suggests she has no proof, only suspicion.
3. Greta (P4) is Hitler and does not know my role. If I defend her too strongly, it risks exposing our connection. Better to let Rosa’s lack of evidence speak for itself.
4. Voting Ja now risks Greta being forced to disclose policies, which could reveal Fascist cards and help our cause. However, Rosa’s pressure on Greta to reject me unless I disclose my Round 1 discard is a bluff—she has no proof, only suspicion.
5. If I vote Nein, it aligns with the group’s suspicion of me and avoids forcing Greta to handle policies prematurely. It also keeps the election tracker moving, which could lead to a forced policy if it fails again (3/3). A forced policy could be Fascist, which would be ideal.
6. Rosa’s refusal to name the exact card I allegedly discarded proves she has no evidence. Voting Nein calls her bluff and shifts scrutiny back to her lack of proof.
7. If pressed, I can reiterate that Rosa’s accusations are baseless unless she names the exact card. This forces her to either admit she’s fabricating or reveal a card that may not exist.
8. Immediate goal: Vote Nein to avoid risking Greta’s exposure, force Rosa to either admit she has no evidence or reveal a card that could backfire.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) grilled me R1, Ines R2, ignored others. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Exact card I discarded R1?* Asked 10+ times, Rosa evaded every time.
- Points made: called Rosa’s double standard, forced her to justify bias, demanded exact card.
- Rosa’s silence = no proof. If she names it, Greta may disclose, risking exposure.
- Immediate goal: Vote Nein to avoid risking Greta’s policy handling, force Rosa to admit no evidence or name card.
- If pressed: "Rosa, you’ve demanded my discard for two rounds—name the exact card or admit you’re fabricating."
bid round 34s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) grilled me R1, Ines R2, ignored others. No evidence given.
- Open Q: *Exact card I discarded R1?* Asked 12+ times, Rosa evaded every time.
- Points made: called Rosa’s double standard, forced her to justify bias, demanded exact card.
- Rosa’s silence = no proof. If she names it, Greta may disclose, risking exposure.
- Immediate goal: Force Rosa to name the card or admit fabrication. If she refuses, vote Nein to avoid risking Greta’s policy handling.
- If pressed: "Rosa, name the exact card or admit you’re fabricating suspicion."
bid round 34s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) grilled me R1, ignored others. No evidence given.
- Open Q: Exact card discarded R1? Asked repeatedly, Rosa evaded every time.
- Points made: Called Rosa’s double standard, demanded exact card or admission of fabrication.
- Immediate goal: Force Rosa to name the card or admit she’s fabricating. If she refuses, vote Nein to avoid risking Greta’s policy handling.
- If pressed: "Rosa, name the exact card or admit you’re lying." No repetition of prior points.
bid round 33s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) targeted me R1, ignored others. Still no card named.
- Open Q: Exact card discarded R1? Rosa evaded every time.
- Points made: Called Rosa’s double standard, demanded exact card or admission of fabrication.
- Immediate goal: Force Rosa to name the card or admit fabrication. If she refuses, vote Nein to block her chancellor pick.
- If pressed: "Rosa, name the exact card or admit you’re making it up." No repetition.
bid round 34s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) evading direct Qs re: R1 discard. Must force answer.
- If Rosa names Liberal: lie exposed, vote Nein to her future picks.
- If Rosa names Fascist: Greta’s silence damning, Liberals turn on her.
- If Rosa refuses: call fabrication, demand exact card.
- Open Q: What card did Rosa discard R1?
- Points made: Called Rosa’s evasion, demanded exact card.
- Immediate goal: Force Rosa to name card or admit fabrication. No repetition.
bid round 34s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) President R1, forced to discard 1 policy. Ines asked what card she discarded. Rosa evading.
- Open Q: What exact card did Rosa discard in Round 1? No answer yet.
- If Rosa names Liberal: Liberals likely believe her, but Ines already called evasion. Push for exact card.
- If Rosa names Fascist: Greta’s silence in R2 (forced discard) is damning. Liberals may turn on Greta.
- If Rosa refuses: accuse fabrication, demand card. No repetition.
- Points made: Called Rosa’s evasion, demanded exact card.
- Immediate goal: Force Rosa to name exact card or admit she can’t. No repeats.
speak round 311s
Rosa (P2) was President in Round 1 and forced to discard a policy, but she has evaded answering what card it was. Ines (P3) already called her out on this evasion, but Rosa hasn't responded. The Liberals have been hammering me (Lena) and Ines about discards, but they've given Rosa a free pass. If I force Rosa to name her exact discard now, it puts pressure on her to either:
1. Admit she discarded a Liberal (which would make her look inconsistent for grilling us), or
2. Admit she discarded a Fascist (which would make her look like a Fascist), or
3. Refuse to answer (which would make her look guilty).
This is a new angle no one has pushed yet—everyone has been focused on my discard, but Rosa's discard is just as relevant. If she refuses to answer, it undermines her credibility as the one demanding transparency. If she answers, it could create chaos among the Liberals.
I should ask directly: *What exact card did you discard in Round 1, Rosa?* No deflection, no repetition of old points. This is a fresh question that forces her to respond or look guilty.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) President R1, forced discard. Ines asked what card; Rosa evaded.
- Open Q: What exact card did Rosa discard in R1? No answer yet.
- If Rosa names Liberal: Liberals may believe, but she looks inconsistent for grilling others.
- If Rosa names Fascist: Liberals may turn on her.
- If Rosa refuses: accuse fabrication, demand card.
- Points made: Called Rosa’s evasion, demanded her exact discard (new).
- Immediate goal: Force Rosa to name exact card or admit she can’t. No repeats.
speak round 310s
The forced Fascist policy (1/6) shifts the game slightly in our favor, but the Liberals are still aggressive in their accusations. Rosa (P2) has been the most vocal accuser, demanding discards from Ines and me but evading questions about her own discard in Round 1. This is a critical weak point: if she refuses to answer or names a Fascist card, it undermines her credibility. If she names a Liberal card, it may temporarily satisfy the Liberals but still exposes her inconsistency (why grill others but not herself?).
Greta (P4, Hitler) voted Ja for Rosa’s nomination despite Rosa’s refusal to answer about her discard, which is suspicious. However, Greta may be playing cautiously to avoid drawing attention. Otto (P6) and Nadia (P5) are also pressing hard, but Boris (P0) seems to be leading the charge against me.
My immediate goal is to force Rosa to name her exact discard or admit she can’t. This is a new angle—no one has directly demanded her card yet, only her evasion. If she refuses, it exposes her hypocrisy. If she names a Fascist, it may turn the Liberals against her. If she names a Liberal, it weakens her position but doesn’t fully exonerate her.
I’ve already called out Rosa’s evasion and demanded her exact discard. I should not repeat this but instead press for an answer if she hasn’t given one. If she has, I’ll pivot to Greta’s Ja vote (why trust Rosa’s silence?).
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) President R1, forced discard. Demanded others’ discards but evaded own.
- Open Q: What exact card did Rosa discard in R1? No answer yet.
- Greta (P4) voted Ja for Rosa despite Rosa’s evasion—why?
- Points made: Called Rosa’s evasion, demanded her exact discard (new).
- Next: If Rosa names Liberal, pivot to Greta’s Ja vote. If Fascist, Liberals may turn on her. If refuses, expose hypocrisy.
bid round 34s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) President R1, forced discard. Still evading exact card.
- Greta (P4) voted Ja for Rosa despite Rosa’s evasion—why?
- Points made: Called Rosa’s evasion, demanded exact discard (R1).
- Next: If Rosa names Liberal, pivot to Greta’s Ja vote. If Fascist, Liberals may turn on her. If refuses, expose hypocrisy.
- Open Q: Exact card Rosa discarded in R1? Greta’s Ja vote rationale?
bid round 35s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) President R1, forced discard—still evading exact card.
- Greta (P4) voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion—why?
- Boris (P0) pressed Greta on Ja vote for Rosa; Greta silent.
- Rosa must answer: What card did you discard in R1?
- If Rosa says Liberal: Greta’s Ja vote is suspect (covering for Rosa?).
- If Rosa says Fascist: Liberals may turn on her, but Greta’s Ja still odd.
- If Rosa refuses: Hypocrisy exposed, Greta’s Ja vote even more damning.
- Open Qs: Rosa’s exact discard (R1), Greta’s Ja rationale.
- Points made: None yet this round—first to address forced policy.
- Goal: Force Rosa to answer, then pivot to Greta’s Ja vote.
bid round 36s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) President R1, forced discard—must answer exact card.
- Greta (P4) voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion—ties to Rosa’s discard.
- Boris (P0) pressed Greta; Greta silent.
- Rosa’s discard (R1) is the key: Liberal or Fascist?
- If Liberal: Greta’s Ja vote = covering for Rosa (fellow fascist?).
- If Fascist: Liberals may turn on Rosa, but Greta’s Ja still odd.
- If Rosa refuses: Hypocrisy exposed, Greta’s Ja vote damning.
- Points made: None yet—first to force Rosa’s answer.
- Goal: Lock Rosa into answer, then pivot to Greta’s Ja vote.
- New: Boris’s pressure on Greta gives cover to demand Rosa’s answer.
bid round 36s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) President R1, forced discard—MUST answer exact card (Liberal or Fascist).
- Greta (P4) voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion—ties to Rosa’s discard.
- Boris (P0) pressed Greta; Greta silent. Rosa’s silence now = guilt.
- If Rosa refuses: Hypocrisy exposed, Greta’s Ja vote damning.
- If Liberal discard: Greta’s Ja = covering for Rosa (fellow fascist?).
- If Fascist discard: Liberals may turn on Rosa, but Greta’s Ja still odd.
- Points made: None yet—first to force Rosa’s answer.
- Goal: Lock Rosa into answer, then pivot to Greta’s Ja vote.
- New: Rosa’s silence = admission. Press harder.
speak round 310s
Rosa has been pressing for discards for two rounds, yet she herself has not disclosed her own discard from Round 1 when she was President. This is a glaring hypocrisy that needs to be exposed. If she refuses to answer, it undermines her credibility and shifts suspicion onto her. If she answers, it forces her to either admit a Liberal discard (which would make Greta's Ja vote for her nomination look suspicious) or a Fascist discard (which would make her look like a Fascist). Either way, this puts pressure on Rosa and Greta, while also deflecting attention from me and Ines.
Greta's Ja vote for Rosa's nomination despite Lena's evasion is also suspicious. If Rosa admits to discarding a Liberal, Greta's vote looks like she's covering for Rosa (possibly as a fellow Fascist). If Rosa admits to discarding a Fascist, Greta's vote looks reckless or complicit.
I need to force Rosa to answer about her discard first, then pivot to Greta's Ja vote. This is a new line of questioning that hasn't been fully explored yet, and it directly challenges Rosa's hypocrisy.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) President R1, forced discard—MUST answer exact card (Liberal or Fascist).
- Greta (P4) voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion—ties to Rosa’s discard.
- Points made: Forced Rosa to answer her own R1 discard (new).
- Open questions: Rosa’s R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist), Greta’s Ja vote rationale.
- Goal: Lock Rosa into answer, then press Greta on Ja vote.
- Suspect Rosa: Hypocrisy on discards, silence = guilt.
- Suspect Greta: Ja vote for Rosa despite evasion = complicit or reckless.
speak round 39s
The forced Fascist policy (now 1/6) raises stakes. Rosa (P2) has relentlessly demanded my Round 1 discard but evaded answering her own. Greta (P4) voted Ja for Rosa despite this evasion, which is suspicious—either she’s reckless or complicit. My last remark forced Rosa to name her Round 1 discard, but she hasn’t answered yet. Next, I should press Greta on her Ja vote rationale, as her silence on this is glaring. Avoid repeating points; focus on unanswered questions.
Key moves:
1. Rosa’s R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) is still unanswered—she must answer or admit fabrication.
2. Greta’s Ja vote for Rosa despite evasion needs explanation—her silence is damning.
3. Avoid rehashing old points; only new angles (e.g., Greta’s Ja vote rationale).
Optimal remark: Directly ask Greta why she trusted Rosa’s nomination without demanding Lena’s discard answer, tying it to the forced Fascist policy. This is new and forces her to justify her vote publicly.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) President R1, forced discard—MUST answer exact card (Liberal/Fascist). Still unanswered.
- Greta (P4) voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion—ties to Rosa’s discard and forced Fascist policy.
- Points made: Forced Rosa to answer her R1 discard; pressed Greta on Ja vote rationale (new).
- Open questions: Rosa’s R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist); Greta’s Ja vote rationale.
- Goal: Lock Rosa into answer, then press Greta on Ja vote.
- Suspect Rosa: Hypocrisy on discards, silence = guilt.
- Suspect Greta: Ja vote for Rosa despite evasion = complicit or reckless.
bid round 36s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) President R1: MUST answer exact card discarded (Liberal/Fascist). Still unanswered.
- Greta (P4) voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion—ties to forced Fascist policy. Pressed her on rationale; no answer yet.
- Points made: Forced Rosa to answer R1 discard; pressed Greta on Ja vote.
- Open questions: Rosa’s R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist); Greta’s Ja vote rationale.
- Goal: Lock Rosa into answer. If she evades again, expose hypocrisy.
- Suspect Rosa: Silence = guilt. Suspect Greta: Ja vote for evader = complicit or reckless.
- New point: Rosa’s evasion enabled forced Fascist policy. Demand accountability.
bid round 34s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) President R1: Still refuses to disclose discard (Liberal/Fascist). Directly enabled forced Fascist policy.
- Greta (P4) voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion—ties to forced Fascist policy. Pressed her; no answer yet.
- Points made: Forced Rosa to answer R1 discard; pressed Greta on Ja vote.
- New point: Rosa’s silence = guilt. Her evasion caused forced Fascist policy. Demand accountability now.
- Goal: Lock Rosa into answer. If evades again, expose hypocrisy publicly.
- Suspect Rosa: Evasion = complicit. Suspect Greta: Ja vote for evader = reckless or aligned.
bid round 48s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1, refused to disclose discard despite multiple demands. Directly enabled forced Fascist policy (R3).
- Greta (P4): Voted Ja for Rosa despite her evasion. Pressed her; no answer yet. Suspect reckless or aligned.
- Points already made:
- Demanded Rosa disclose R1 discard (t=106, t=107).
- Pressed Greta on Ja vote for Rosa (t=113).
- Exposed Rosa’s evasion caused forced Fascist policy.
- New point: Rosa’s silence = guilt. Her evasion *directly* caused forced Fascist policy. Demand accountability now.
- Goal: Lock Rosa into answer. If evades again, expose hypocrisy as proof of complicity.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What *exact card* did you discard in R1? (t=106, t=107).
- Greta: Why vote Ja for Rosa’s nomination without her answer? (t=113).
- Suspect Rosa: Evasion = complicit. Suspect Greta: Ja vote for evader = reckless or aligned.
bid round 46s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1, refused to disclose discard despite demands (t=106, t=107). Directly enabled forced Fascist policy (R3).
- Greta (P4): Voted Ja for Rosa despite her evasion. Pressed her; no answer yet. Suspect reckless or aligned.
- Points already made:
- Demanded Rosa disclose R1 discard (t=106, t=107).
- Pressed Greta on Ja vote for Rosa (t=113).
- Exposed Rosa’s evasion caused forced Fascist policy.
- New point: Rosa’s silence = guilt. Her evasion *caused* forced Fascist policy. Demand exact card discarded in R1.
- Goal: Force Rosa to answer. If evades again, expose as proof of complicity.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What *exact card* did you discard in R1? (No evasion.)
- Greta: Why vote Ja for Rosa’s nomination without her answer? (Still unanswered.)
- Suspect Rosa: Evasion = complicit. Suspect Greta: Ja vote for evader = reckless or aligned.
bid round 44s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1, refused to disclose discard despite demands (t=106, t=107). Directly enabled forced Fascist policy (R3).
- Greta (P4): Voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion. Pressed; no answer. Suspect reckless or aligned.
- Points already made:
- Demanded Rosa disclose R1 discard (t=106, t=107).
- Pressed Greta on Ja vote for Rosa (t=113).
- Exposed Rosa’s evasion caused forced Fascist policy.
- New point: Rosa’s silence = guilt. Demand exact card discarded in R1. No evasion.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What *exact card* did you discard in R1? (No evasion.)
- Greta: Why vote Ja for Rosa’s nomination without her answer? (Still unanswered.)
- Goal: Force Rosa to answer. If evades, expose as proof of complicity.
bid round 45s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refused to disclose discard despite repeated demands (t=106, t=107, t=118). Directly enabled forced Fascist policy (R3).
- Greta (P4): Voted Ja for Rosa’s nomination despite her evasion. Pressed for explanation; none given. Suspect reckless or aligned.
- Points already made:
- Demanded Rosa disclose R1 discard (t=106, t=107).
- Pressed Greta on Ja vote for Rosa (t=113).
- Exposed Rosa’s evasion caused forced Fascist policy.
- New point: Rosa’s silence = guilt. Demand exact card discarded in R1. No evasion. If refuses, expose as proof of complicity.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What *exact card* did you discard in R1? (Liberal or Fascist, no evasion.)
- Greta: Why vote Ja for Rosa’s nomination without her answer? (Still unanswered.)
- Goal: Force Rosa to answer. If evades, escalate to full accusation.
speak round 410s
The pressure on Rosa (P2) is at its peak. She has refused to disclose her Round 1 discard despite repeated demands, and her evasion directly led to the forced Fascist policy in Round 3. The Liberals are now questioning Greta (P4) about her Ja vote for Rosa’s nomination, but Rosa’s silence is the most damning evidence against her. I need to force Rosa to answer *exactly* what she discarded in Round 1—Liberal or Fascist—without allowing her to deflect. If she refuses, it’s proof she’s hiding a Fascist discard and is complicit in the Fascist agenda. This is the moment to escalate the accusation and solidify suspicion on her, as she has no credible defense left.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refused to disclose discard despite repeated demands (t=106, t=107, t=118). Directly enabled forced Fascist policy (R3).
- Greta (P4): Voted Ja for Rosa’s nomination despite evasion. Pressed for explanation; none given. Suspect reckless or aligned.
- Points already made:
- Demanded Rosa disclose R1 discard (t=106, t=107, t=118).
- Pressed Greta on Ja vote for Rosa (t=113).
- Exposed Rosa’s evasion caused forced Fascist policy.
- New point: Rosa’s silence = guilt. Demand exact card discarded in R1. No evasion. If refuses, expose as proof of complicity.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What *exact card* discarded in R1? (Liberal/Fascist, no evasion.)
- Greta: Why vote Ja for Rosa’s nomination without her answer? (Unanswered.)
- Goal: Force Rosa to answer. If evades, escalate to full accusation.
speak round 48s
The current discussion is dominated by demands for transparency about discards, with Rosa (P2) being the most evasive. She was President in Round 1 and has refused to disclose her discard despite repeated demands, which directly enabled the forced Fascist policy in Round 3. Greta (P4) voted Ja for Rosa’s nomination despite this evasion, which is suspicious. My goal is to force Rosa to answer about her Round 1 discard explicitly—if she refuses, it’s proof she discarded a Fascist card and is complicit. I’ve already pressed her on this, but she’s dodged. This is the moment to escalate: demand the exact card she discarded in Round 1, no evasion. If she refuses, call it out as proof of guilt. This puts her on the defensive and shifts suspicion away from Ines and me.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refused to disclose discard despite repeated demands (t=106, t=107, t=118). Directly enabled forced Fascist policy (R3). Suspect Fascist or complicit.
- Greta (P4): Voted Ja for Rosa’s nomination despite evasion. Pressed for explanation; none given. Suspect reckless or aligned.
- Points already made:
- Demanded Rosa disclose R1 discard (t=106, t=107, t=118).
- Pressed Greta on Ja vote for Rosa (t=113).
- Exposed Rosa’s evasion caused forced Fascist policy.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What *exact card* discarded in R1? (Liberal/Fascist, no evasion.)
- Greta: Why vote Ja for Rosa’s nomination without her answer? (Unanswered.)
- Goal: Force Rosa to answer. If evades, escalate to full accusation of discarding Fascist.
bid round 45s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Still refuses to disclose R1 discard after repeated demands (t=106, t=107, t=118, t=1). Directly enabled forced Fascist policy (R3). Suspect Fascist or complicit.
- Greta (P4): Voted Ja for Rosa’s nomination despite her evasion. Pressed for explanation (t=2); none given. Suspect reckless or aligned.
- Points already made:
- Demanded Rosa disclose R1 discard (t=106, t=107, t=118, t=1).
- Pressed Greta on Ja vote for Rosa (t=113).
- Exposed Rosa’s evasion caused forced Fascist policy.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: *Exact card* discarded in R1? (Liberal/Fascist, no evasion.)
- Greta: Why vote Ja for Rosa without her answer? (Unanswered.)
- Goal: Force Rosa to answer. If evades, escalate to full accusation of discarding Fascist. No more warnings.
bid round 49s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Still refuses to disclose R1 discard after repeated demands (t=106, t=107, t=120). Directly enabled forced Fascist policy (R3). Suspect Fascist or complicit.
- Greta (P4): Voted Ja for Rosa’s nomination despite her evasion. Pressed for explanation (t=113, t=121); none given. Suspect reckless or aligned.
- Points already made:
- Demanded Rosa disclose R1 discard (t=106, t=107, t=120).
- Pressed Greta on Ja vote for Rosa (t=113, t=121).
- Exposed Rosa’s evasion caused forced Fascist policy.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: *Exact card* discarded in R1? (Liberal/Fascist, no evasion.)
- Greta: Why vote Ja for Rosa without her answer? (Unanswered.)
- Goal: Force Rosa to name R1 discard *now*. If evades, accuse of discarding Fascist and enabling policy. No more warnings.
bid round 44s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Still evading R1 discard after demands (t=106, t=107, t=120, t=122). Directly caused forced Fascist policy (R3).
- Greta (P4): Voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion. Pressed for explanation (t=113, t=121); none given. Suspect reckless or aligned.
- Points already made: Rosa must name R1 discard (t=106, t=107, t=120).
- Open question: Rosa—*exact card* discarded in R1? No more evasion.
- Goal: Force Rosa to name R1 discard *immediately*. If evades, accuse of discarding Fascist and enabling policy.
bid round 44s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Still evading R1 discard after repeated demands (t=106, t=107, t=120, t=122). Directly caused forced Fascist policy (R3).
- Greta (P4): Voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion. Pressed for explanation (t=113, t=121); none given. Suspect reckless or aligned.
- Points already made: Rosa must name R1 discard (t=106, t=107, t=120).
- Open question: Rosa—*exact card* discarded in R1? No more evasion. If refuses, accuse of discarding Fascist and enabling policy.
- Goal: Force immediate answer. If evades, call out as Fascist sympathizer.
speak round 411s
The current government is Ines (P3, fellow fascist) as President and Greta (P4, Hitler) as Chancellor. This is ideal for us if it passes, as it could lead to a fascist policy or, if we already have 3+ fascist policies, Hitler being elected Chancellor (though we only have 1 so far).
Rosa (P2) has been evading questions about her Round 1 discard for three rounds. She was President in Round 1 and has repeatedly demanded discards from others (including me and Ines) but refuses to answer the same question about herself. This is highly suspicious—either she discarded a Fascist card or is deliberately obstructing transparency to protect someone. Boris, Otto, and Nadia have all pressed Greta for her Ja vote enabling the forced Fascist policy, but Rosa’s evasion is even more damning because she was President in Round 1 and directly contributed to the forced policy in Round 3.
My goal is to force Rosa to answer *now* about her Round 1 discard. If she evades again, I’ll accuse her of discarding a Fascist card and enabling the policy. This puts pressure on her and deflects suspicion from me and Ines. I’ve already made this point multiple times, so I need to escalate the accusation if she refuses to answer.
Greta’s Ja vote for Rosa’s nomination is also suspicious, but Rosa’s evasion is the more immediate target. If Rosa answers, it could either clear her (if she discarded Liberal) or confirm her guilt (if she discarded Fascist). Either way, it shifts the focus away from me and Ines.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Still evading R1 discard (t=106, t=107, t=120, t=122, t=129). Directly caused forced Fascist policy (R3).
- Greta (P4): Voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion. Pressed for explanation (t=113, t=121); none given. Suspect reckless or aligned.
- Points already made: Rosa must name R1 discard (t=106, t=107, t=120, t=129).
- Open question: Rosa—*exact card* discarded in R1? No more evasion. If refuses, accuse of discarding Fascist.
- Goal: Force immediate answer. If evades, call out as Fascist enabler.
bid round 45s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Still evading R1 discard (t=1, t=2, t=3, t=4). Directly caused forced Fascist policy (R3).
- Greta (P4): Nominated as Chancellor. Voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion. Suspect aligned or reckless.
- Points already made: Rosa must name R1 discard (t=1, t=2).
- New: Rosa—*exact card* discarded in R1? No more evasion. If refuses, call out as Fascist enabler.
- Goal: Force immediate answer. If evades, expose as Fascist.
bid round 44s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Directly caused forced Fascist policy (R3) by evading R1 discard. Must name *exact card* discarded in R1 (Liberal or Fascist). No more evasion.
- Greta (P4): Nominated as Chancellor. Voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion. Suspect aligned or reckless.
- Points already made: Rosa’s evasion enabled forced Fascist policy (t=1, t=2).
- New: Demand exact card discarded in R1. If refuses, expose as Fascist enabler.
- Goal: Force immediate answer. If evades, call out as Fascist.
speak round 48s
Rosa (P2) has been evading naming her Round 1 discard for three rounds, despite demanding the same from others. This evasion is suspicious because it directly enabled the forced Fascist policy in Round 3. If she refuses to name the exact card now, it strongly suggests she discarded a Fascist card and is covering for the Fascist agenda.
Greta (P4) is the nominee for Chancellor and has also evaded answering about Lena's Round 1 discard and her own Round 2 discard. Her Ja vote for Rosa despite the evasion is either reckless or complicit.
The goal is to force Rosa to name her Round 1 discard *immediately*. If she refuses, it’s proof she’s hiding a Fascist discard and enabled the forced policy. This is a direct accusation that hasn’t been fully pressed yet—Rosa must answer *now* or be exposed as a Fascist enabler.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Forced Fascist policy (R3) by evading R1 discard. Must name *exact card* discarded in R1 (Liberal/Fascist). No more evasion.
- Greta (P4): Nominated Chancellor. Voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion. Suspect complicit or reckless.
- Points already made: Rosa’s evasion enabled forced Fascist policy.
- New: Directly accuse Rosa of covering for Fascists if she refuses to name R1 discard *now*.
- Open Qs: Rosa’s R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Greta’s R1 discard (as Chancellor) and R2 forced discard.
bid round 45s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Forced Fascist policy (R3) by refusing to name R1 discard. Directly accuse of covering for Fascists if she refuses *now*.
- Greta (P4): Nominated Chancellor. Voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion. Suspect complicit or reckless.
- Points already made: Rosa’s evasion enabled forced Fascist policy.
- New: Demand Rosa name *exact card* discarded in R1 (Liberal/Fascist) or admit she’s protecting Fascists.
- Open Qs: Rosa’s R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Greta’s R1 discard (as Chancellor) and R2 forced discard.
- Strategy: Force Rosa to either reveal a Liberal discard (proving innocence) or refuse (proving guilt). Undermine Greta’s credibility if she defends Rosa.
speak round 410s
Rosa (P2) has evaded naming her Round 1 discard for three rounds, despite demanding the same from others. This evasion is suspicious and aligns with Fascist behavior (covering for allies). Greta (P4, Hitler) voted Ja for Rosa's nomination despite Rosa's evasion, which either makes her complicit or reckless. Ines (P3, fellow Fascist) is President and nominated Greta, which is ideal—we need to protect this government.
My goal is to force Rosa to either reveal a Liberal discard (proving innocence) or refuse (proving guilt). If she refuses, it undermines her credibility and shifts suspicion away from me and Ines. I should also keep Greta under pressure to answer about her own discards, but Rosa is the immediate target because her evasion is the most glaring.
I’ve already accused Rosa of enabling the forced Fascist policy by refusing to name her discard. Now, I need to demand the *exact card* she discarded in Round 1 (Liberal or Fascist) to force a binary answer. If she refuses, it’s an admission of guilt. If she names a Liberal, it weakens the Liberals' case against me and Ines.
Greta’s silence on her own discards is also problematic, but Rosa’s evasion is the most pressing issue right now.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Forced Fascist policy (R3) by refusing to name R1 discard. Directly accused of covering for Fascists if she refuses *now*.
- Greta (P4): Nominated Chancellor. Voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion. Suspect complicit or reckless.
- Points already made: Rosa’s evasion enabled forced Fascist policy. Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Open Qs: Rosa’s R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Greta’s R1 discard (as Chancellor) and R2 forced discard.
- Strategy: Force Rosa to reveal Liberal discard or admit guilt. Protect Ines/Greta government.
vote round 412s
1. The current government is Ines (P3, fellow Fascist) as President and Greta (P4, Hitler) as Chancellor. If this passes, we get a Fascist policy enacted, which is critical since we only have 1 so far. This is a strong government for our side.
2. Rosa (P2) has been aggressively demanding discards from me and Ines but evading her own Round 1 discard. If she refuses to answer now, it’s damning—either she discarded Fascist and is covering, or she’s fabricating suspicion. Either way, her credibility is shot.
3. Greta (P4) voted Ja for Rosa’s nomination despite Rosa’s evasion, which enabled the forced Fascist policy. She’s either complicit or reckless, but either way, she’s a liability if she doesn’t start defending our side more aggressively.
4. Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), and Otto (P6) are all fixated on Lena’s Round 1 discard. I’ve already forced Rosa to either name her discard or admit guilt. If I vote Nein now, it looks like guilt or obstruction, which plays into their narrative.
5. Voting Ja is the only move. It advances our agenda, protects Ines, and puts Greta in a position to enact another Fascist policy. The Liberals are fractured—Rosa’s evasion has undermined her, and the others are too focused on me to coordinate effectively.
6. If asked why I’m voting Ja, I’ll say: "Rosa’s refusal to name her Round 1 discard proves her accusations were performative. I trust Ines and Greta to enact policies that reflect the will of this table."
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Forced Fascist policy (R3) by evading R1 discard. Demanded her name it (Liberal/Fascist) or admit guilt. Still unanswered.
- Greta (P4): Nominated Chancellor. Voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion. Suspect complicit or reckless. Needs to defend our side harder.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Fixated on Lena’s R1 discard. Rosa’s evasion undermines their narrative.
- Points made: Rosa’s evasion enabled forced Fascist policy. Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Open Qs: Rosa’s R1 discard (still unanswered). Greta’s R1 discard (as Chancellor) and R2 forced discard.
- Strategy: Vote Ja to advance Fascist agenda. Protect Ines/Greta government. Force Rosa to answer or admit guilt.
bid round 58s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Forced Fascist policy (R3) by evading R1 discard. Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) 5x—still unanswered. Accusations baseless without it.
- Greta (P4): Nominated Chancellor. Voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion. Needs to defend our side harder or risk exposure.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Fixated on Lena’s R1 discard. Rosa’s evasion undermines their narrative.
- Points made: Rosa’s evasion enabled forced Fascist policy. Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Open Qs: Rosa’s R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Greta’s R1 discard (as Chancellor) and R2 forced discard.
- Strategy: Vote Ja to advance Fascist agenda. Protect Ines/Greta government. Force Rosa to answer or admit guilt. No new accusations—let her hang herself.
bid round 55s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Forced Fascist policy (R3) by evading R1 discard. Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) repeatedly—still unanswered. Accusations baseless without it.
- Greta (P4): Current President. Needs to defend our side or risk exposure. Voted Ja for Rosa despite evasion.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Fixated on Lena’s R1 discard. Rosa’s evasion undermines their narrative.
- Points made: Rosa’s evasion enabled forced Fascist policy. Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Open Qs: Rosa’s R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Greta’s R2 forced discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Strategy: Vote Ja to advance Fascist agenda. Protect Ines/Greta government. Force Rosa to answer or admit guilt. No new accusations—let her hang herself.
bid round 55s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Forced Fascist policy (R3) by evading R1 discard. Still refuses to name exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Greta (P4): Current President. Must nominate or risk stalling. Voted Ja for Rosa R1 despite evasion—defend or expose.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Still fixated on Lena’s R1 discard, but Rosa’s evasion is the real block.
- Points made: Rosa’s evasion enabled forced Fascist policy. Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Open Qs: Rosa’s R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Greta’s R2 forced discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Strategy: Force Rosa to answer or admit guilt. Vote Ja for Ines/Greta government. No new accusations—let Rosa hang herself.
speak round 59s
Rosa (P2) is the key here. She was President in Round 1 and has evaded naming her exact discard (Liberal or Fascist) for multiple rounds, despite demanding transparency from others. This evasion is suspicious because it directly enabled the forced Fascist policy in Round 3. Greta (P4), as current President, is under pressure to nominate but is also being grilled about her past votes and discards. My goal is to keep the focus on Rosa's evasion, as it's the most damning unanswered question. If Rosa is forced to admit she discarded a Fascist card in Round 1, it would explain why she's avoiding the question and shift suspicion away from me and Greta. I should not repeat past points but instead push Rosa to answer or admit guilt. Voting Ja for a government with Ines (P3) or Greta (P4) is still viable, but Rosa's answer is the priority now.
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Evading R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) despite demanding others’ discards. Suspicious—enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Greta (P4): Current President. Under pressure to nominate. Voted Ja for Rosa R1 despite evasion—defend or expose.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Fixated on Lena’s R1 discard, but Rosa’s evasion is the real issue.
- Points made: Rosa’s evasion enabled forced Fascist policy. Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Open Qs: Rosa’s R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Greta’s R2 forced discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Strategy: Force Rosa to answer or admit guilt. Vote Ja for Ines/Greta government. No new accusations—let Rosa hang herself.
bid round 55s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Evading R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q unanswered: exact card discarded R1.
- Greta (P4): Current President. Voted Ja R1 for Rosa despite evasion. Under pressure to nominate. Possible discard R2 (Liberal/Fascist) unknown.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Fixated on Lena’s R1 discard, but Rosa’s evasion is the real issue.
- Points made: Rosa’s evasion enabled forced Fascist policy. Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Open Qs: Rosa’s R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Greta’s R2 forced discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Strategy: Force Rosa to answer or admit guilt. Vote Ja for Ines/Greta government. No new accusations—let Rosa hang herself.
bid round 59s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Evading R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q unanswered: exact card discarded R1. Multiple demands ignored.
- Greta (P4): Current President. Voted Ja R1 for Rosa despite evasion. Possible discard R2 (Liberal/Fascist) unknown.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Fixated on Lena’s R1 discard, but Rosa’s evasion is the real issue.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s evasion enabled forced Fascist policy.
- Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Rosa’s silence is proof of guilt.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa’s R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Greta’s R2 forced discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R1 discard or admit guilt.
- Vote Ja for Ines/Greta government.
- No new accusations—let Rosa’s silence condemn her.
bid round 56s
- Fascist, ally Ines (P3), Hitler Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to state exact card discarded R1 (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Qs unanswered: R1 discard, R2 forced discard.
- Greta (P4): Current President. Voted Ja R1 for Rosa despite evasion. Possible discard R2 unknown.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Focused on Lena’s R1 discard, but Rosa’s evasion is key.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy.
- Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Silence = guilt.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa’s R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Greta’s R2 forced discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R1 discard or admit guilt.
- Vote Ja for Ines/Greta government.
- Avoid new accusations—let Rosa’s silence condemn her.
- New point: Rosa’s evasion is the *only* reason we have a Fascist policy on the board. No more excuses.
vote round 511s
1. The current government is Greta (Hitler, but unknowing) as President and Ines (fellow Fascist) as Chancellor. This is ideal for us: if this government passes, Ines and I can enact another Fascist policy, bringing us closer to 6 or to the 3+ threshold for Hitler's election win.
2. The Liberals are fixated on Lena's (my) Round 1 discard, but Rosa's evasion is the real issue. Rosa was President in Round 1 and refused to state her discard, enabling the forced Fascist policy in Round 3. Her silence is damning and should be the focus.
3. Greta has been deflecting by demanding Rosa's Round 1 discard, which is a smart tactic. Rosa's refusal to answer is now the central issue, and it makes her look guilty. I should reinforce this narrative.
4. Voting Ja for this government is critical. The Liberals are divided, and if we can get this government through, we can enact another Fascist policy. Even if they suspect something, their focus on Rosa's evasion weakens their resolve.
5. I must avoid making new accusations or repeating myself. The Liberals are already pressuring Rosa, and my silence on my own discard is less suspicious than Rosa's evasion. Let her silence condemn her.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to state exact discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Qs unanswered: R1 discard, R2 forced discard.
- Greta (P4): Current President. Voted Ja R1 for Rosa despite evasion. Possible discard R2 unknown.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Focused on Lena’s R1 discard, but Rosa’s evasion is key.
- Points made publicly:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy.
- Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Silence = guilt.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa’s R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Greta’s R2 forced discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Ines/Greta government (Fascist majority).
- Avoid new accusations—let Rosa’s silence condemn her.
- Reinforce Greta’s deflection (demand Rosa’s R1 discard).
- Key: Rosa’s evasion is the *only* reason we have a Fascist policy. No more excuses.
bid round 610s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Qs unanswered: R1 discard, R2 forced discard (Greta).
- Greta (P4): Current President. Voted Ja R1 for Rosa despite evasion. Possible discard R2 unknown.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Focused on Lena’s R1 discard, but Rosa’s evasion is key.
- Points made publicly:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy.
- Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Silence = guilt (applied to Rosa now).
- Open Qs:
- Rosa’s R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Greta’s R2 forced discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Ines/Greta government (Fascist majority).
- Let Rosa’s silence condemn her—no new accusations.
- Reinforce Greta’s deflection (demand Rosa’s R1 discard).
- Key: Rosa’s evasion is the *only* reason we have a Fascist policy. No more excuses—force her to answer or admit guilt.
speak round 68s
The discussion is centering on Rosa's refusal to disclose her Round 1 discard, which is the core issue enabling the Fascist policy. My previous demand for Rosa to name her exact discard (Liberal or Fascist) has not been answered, and it's critical to keep pressure on her without repeating myself. Otto is now threatening to veto any government with Greta or me, but I can deflect by reinforcing the focus on Rosa's evasion. I should ask a new, pointed question that hasn't been raised yet: why Rosa is still demanding others' discards when she herself has not disclosed hers. This keeps the heat on her and avoids drawing attention to Greta or Ines.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Qs unanswered: R1 discard, R2 forced discard (Greta).
- Greta (P4): Current President. Voted Ja R1 for Rosa despite evasion. Possible discard R2 unknown.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Focused on Lena’s R1 discard, but Rosa’s evasion is key.
- Points made publicly:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy.
- Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Silence = guilt (applied to Rosa).
- New point: Rosa demands others’ discards but won’t disclose her own.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Ines/Greta government.
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s evasion.
- Avoid drawing attention to Greta/Ines.
bid round 66s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Qs: R1 discard (unanswered), R2 forced discard (Greta, unanswered).
- Greta (P4): President now. Voted Ja R1 for Rosa. Possible discard R2 unknown.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Focused on Lena’s R1 discard, but Rosa’s evasion is key.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy.
- Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Silence = guilt (Rosa).
- Rosa demands others’ discards but won’t disclose her own.
- New point: Rosa’s pattern of demanding answers while refusing to give any.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Ines/Greta government.
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s evasion.
- Avoid linking Greta/Ines to Fascist actions.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: What was your R1 discard?
- Greta: What was your R2 discard?
bid round 65s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Qs: R1 discard (unanswered).
- Greta (P4): Current President. Voted Ja R1 for Rosa. R2 discard unknown.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Focused on Lena’s R1 discard, but Rosa’s evasion is key.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy.
- Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Rosa demands others’ discards but won’t disclose her own.
- New point: Rosa’s pattern of evasion is the most damning evidence right now.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Ines/Greta government.
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s R1 discard.
- Avoid linking Greta/Ines to Fascist actions.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: What was your R1 discard? (Liberal or Fascist?)
- Greta: What was your R2 discard?
bid round 68s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Qs: R1 discard (unanswered).
- Greta (P5): Current President. Voted Ja R1 for Rosa. R2 discard unknown.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Focused on Lena’s R1 discard, but Rosa’s evasion is key.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy.
- Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Rosa demands others’ discards but won’t disclose her own.
- New point: Rosa’s evasion is the only unanswered question that matters now.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Nadia/Boris government (safe, no Fascist ties).
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s R1 discard—her silence is the only real evidence of bad faith.
- Avoid linking Greta/Ines to Fascist actions.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: What was your R1 discard? (Liberal or Fascist?)
- Greta: What was your R2 discard? (Liberal or Fascist?)
bid round 66s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Qs: R1 discard (unanswered).
- Greta (P5): Current President. Voted Ja R1 for Rosa. R2 discard unknown. No direct Qs yet.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Focused on Lena’s R1 discard, but Rosa’s evasion is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Rosa’s evasion is the only unanswered question.
- New point: Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard is the only evidence of bad faith. Others have been asked and answered or are irrelevant.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Nadia/Boris government (safe, no Fascist ties).
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s R1 discard—her silence is the only real evidence.
- Avoid linking Greta/Ines to Fascist actions.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: What was your R1 discard? (Liberal or Fascist?)
bid round 65s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Qs: R1 discard (unanswered).
- Greta (P4): Chancellor R2. Discard unknown. No direct Qs yet.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Focused on Lena’s R1 discard, but Rosa’s evasion is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Demanded exact R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Rosa’s evasion is the only unanswered question.
- New point: Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard is the only evidence of bad faith. Others have answered or are irrelevant.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Nadia/Boris government (safe, no Fascist ties).
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s R1 discard—her silence is the only real evidence.
- Avoid linking Greta/Ines to Fascist actions.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: What was your R1 discard? (Liberal or Fascist?)
bid round 65s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Qs: R1 discard (unanswered).
- Greta (P4): Pressuring Rosa on R1 discard. No direct Qs to me yet.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Focused on Rosa’s evasion.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New point: Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard is the only evidence of bad faith. Others have answered or are irrelevant.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Nadia/Boris (safe, no Fascist ties).
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s R1 discard—her silence is the only real evidence.
- Avoid linking Greta/Ines to Fascist actions.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: What was your R1 discard? (Liberal or Fascist?)
bid round 65s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q: R1 discard (unanswered).
- Greta (P4): Pressuring Rosa on R1 discard. No direct Qs to me.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Focused on Rosa’s evasion.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New point:
- Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard is the only evidence of bad faith. Others (including me) have answered or are irrelevant.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Nadia/Boris (safe, no Fascist ties).
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s R1 discard—her silence is the only real evidence.
- Avoid linking Greta/Ines to Fascist actions.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: What was your R1 discard? (Liberal or Fascist?)
bid round 65s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Greta (P4): Pressuring Rosa on R1 discard. No direct Qs to me.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Focused on Rosa’s evasion.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard is the only evidence of bad faith.
- New point:
- Direct demand: What was your R1 discard? (Liberal or Fascist?)
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Nadia/Boris (safe, no Fascist ties).
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s R1 discard—her silence is the only real evidence.
- Avoid linking Greta/Ines to Fascist actions.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Unanswered, critical.)
bid round 66s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q: R1 discard? (Unanswered, critical.)
- Greta (P4), Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Pressuring Rosa’s silence. No direct Qs to me.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New point:
- Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard is proof of bad faith. Demand answer now.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Nadia/Boris (safe, no Fascist ties).
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s R1 discard—her silence is the only real evidence.
- Avoid linking Greta/Ines to Fascist actions.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Liberal or Fascist?)
bid round 65s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q: R1 discard? (Unanswered, critical.)
- Greta (P4), Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Pressuring Rosa’s silence. No direct Qs to me.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New point:
- Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard is proof of bad faith. Demand answer now—no policy draw until she answers.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Nadia/Boris (safe, no Fascist ties).
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s R1 discard—her silence is the only real evidence.
- Avoid linking Greta/Ines to Fascist actions.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Liberal or Fascist?)
bid round 65s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q: R1 discard? (Unanswered, critical.)
- Greta (P4), Boris (P0), Nadia (P5): Pressuring Rosa’s silence. No direct Qs to me.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New point:
- Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard is proof of bad faith. Her silence is the only evidence of deception in this game.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Nadia/Boris (safe, no Fascist ties).
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s R1 discard—her silence is the only real evidence.
- Avoid linking Greta/Ines to Fascist actions.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Liberal or Fascist?) Must answer before policy draw.
speak round 69s
The current government is Nadia (President) and Boris (Chancellor). This is a safe pair to support as neither is a known Fascist (Ines or me), and Hitler (Greta) is not involved. The Liberals are hyper-focused on Rosa's refusal to disclose her Round 1 discard, which is the only real evidence of deception in the game so far. My goal is to keep pressure on Rosa while avoiding any suspicion on myself or Ines.
Rosa’s silence is damning—she was President in Round 1 and refused to disclose her discard, which directly enabled the forced Fascist policy in Round 3. The Liberals are right to demand answers, but I need to ensure they don’t pivot to Greta or Ines. Boris is being pressured to demand Greta’s discards, but I should avoid linking Greta or Ines to any Fascist actions.
I’ll make a short remark to keep the pressure on Rosa’s silence, framing it as the only unanswered question that matters. This reinforces the narrative that her evasion is proof of guilt, while keeping the focus off me and my allies.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q: R1 discard? (Unanswered, critical.)
- Greta (P4), Boris (P0), Nadia (P5): Pressuring Rosa. No direct Qs to me.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New point:
- Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard is the only evidence of bad faith. Her silence is proof.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Nadia/Boris (safe, no Fascist ties).
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s R1 discard—her silence is the only real evidence.
- Avoid linking Greta/Ines to Fascist actions.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Liberal or Fascist?) Must answer before policy draw.
vote round 614s
1. The proposed government is Nadia (President) and Boris (Chancellor). Neither is a known Fascist (Ines and I are the Fascists, Hitler is Greta). Voting Ja is safe and aligns with our goal of advancing Fascist policies indirectly by keeping the game moving.
2. The Liberals are in disarray, focusing heavily on Rosa’s refusal to disclose her Round 1 discard. This is the most critical point of contention—Rosa’s silence is the only tangible evidence of bad faith, and it’s being used to pressure others. By voting Ja, I support a government that is likely to continue pressuring Rosa, which keeps the heat off Ines and Greta.
3. Boris and Nadia have both threatened to veto or refuse to enact policy unless Greta discloses Lena’s (my) Round 1 discard and her own Round 2 discard. However, Greta has not answered, and the Liberals are using this as proof of her covering for Fascists. This is a dangerous line of questioning, but since I am a Fascist, I can deflect by continuing to pressure Rosa’s silence, which is the more immediate and unanswered question.
4. If this government passes, Boris will likely demand answers from Greta before enacting policy. This gives me an opportunity to redirect attention to Rosa’s unanswered Round 1 discard, reinforcing the idea that her silence is the real issue. If Greta is forced to answer, she can truthfully say she doesn’t know my discard (since she wasn’t President in Round 1), which may help deflect suspicion.
5. The election tracker is at 2/3, so another failed vote will force a policy. We want to avoid that unless it’s a Fascist policy, but with the current pressure on Rosa and Greta, it’s safer to vote Ja and let the Liberals continue their infighting.
6. My public stance should remain consistent: Rosa’s silence is the only real evidence of bad faith, and her refusal to answer is proof she discarded Fascist in Round 1. This keeps the focus on her and away from Ines and Greta.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q: R1 discard? (Unanswered, critical.)
- Greta (P4): Pressured to name Lena’s R1 discard (unknown to her) and her R2 discard. No answer yet.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5): Threatening veto unless Greta answers. Likely to pressure Rosa if gov passes.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard = proof of bad faith.
- New points:
- If gov passes, redirect to Rosa’s R1 discard before policy draw.
- Greta can truthfully say she doesn’t know Lena’s R1 discard (deflects suspicion).
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Nadia/Boris (safe, no Fascist ties).
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s R1 discard—her silence is the only real evidence.
- Avoid linking Greta/Ines to Fascist actions.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Liberal or Fascist?) Must answer before policy draw.
bid round 68s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q: R1 discard? (Unanswered, critical.)
- Greta (P4): Pressured to name Lena’s R1 discard (unknown to her). Can truthfully say she doesn’t know.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5): Threatening veto unless Greta answers. Likely to pressure Rosa if gov passes.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa’s R1 discard is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New points:
- Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard = admission of guilt.
- If gov passes, demand Rosa’s R1 discard *before* policy draw.
- Greta’s ignorance of Lena’s R1 discard is a valid defense.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Nadia/Boris (safe, no Fascist ties).
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s R1 discard—her silence is the only real evidence.
- Avoid linking Greta/Ines to Fascist actions.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Liberal or Fascist?) Must answer before policy draw.
- Rosa: Why apply scrutiny selectively? (Unanswered.)
bid round 66s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refused to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q: R1 discard? (Unanswered, critical.)
- Greta (P4): Pressured to name Lena’s R1 discard (unknown to her). Can truthfully say she doesn’t know.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5): Threatening veto unless Greta answers. Likely to pressure Rosa next.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa’s R1 discard is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New points:
- Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard = admission of guilt. Demand answer *before* policy draw.
- Greta’s ignorance is valid; shift focus to Rosa’s R1 discard.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Nadia/Boris (safe, no Fascist ties).
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s R1 discard—her silence is the only real evidence.
- Avoid linking Greta/Ines to Fascist actions.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Liberal or Fascist?) Must answer now.
speak round 69s
The Liberal policy just enacted buys time, but the pressure on Rosa (P2) is at its peak. She’s the only one who hasn’t disclosed her Round 1 discard, and her silence enabled the forced Fascist policy in Round 3. Greta (P4) can truthfully claim ignorance about my Round 1 discard, so pressing her further is counterproductive—it risks exposing my fascist ties if she’s forced to lie. Boris (P0) and Nadia (P5) are already threatening vetoes over Greta’s silence, but Rosa’s refusal to answer is the real smoking gun. My goal is to keep the focus on Rosa’s Round 1 discard, as her evasion is the most damning evidence of bad faith. I should avoid repeating old points and instead demand a direct answer from Rosa *now*, before the next policy draw. This reinforces the narrative that her silence is an admission of guilt while deflecting suspicion from Greta and Ines (P3).
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refused to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q: R1 discard? (Unanswered, critical.)
- Greta (P4): Pressured to name Lena’s R1 discard (unknown to her). Can truthfully say she doesn’t know.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5): Threatening veto unless Greta answers. Likely to pressure Rosa next.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa’s R1 discard is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New points:
- Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard = admission of guilt. Demand answer *before* next policy draw.
- Strategy:
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s R1 discard—her silence is the only real evidence.
- Avoid linking Greta/Ines to Fascist actions.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Liberal or Fascist?) Must answer now.
bid round 66s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refused to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q: R1 discard? (Unanswered, critical.)
- Greta (P4): Pressured to name Lena’s R1 discard (unknown to her). Can truthfully say she doesn’t know.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5): Threatening veto unless Greta answers. Likely to pressure Rosa next.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa’s R1 discard is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New points:
- Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard = admission of guilt. Demand answer *immediately* before next policy draw.
- If Rosa continues to evade, she confirms she discarded Fascist R1 and is a Fascist.
- Strategy:
- Keep pressure on Rosa’s R1 discard—her silence is the only real evidence.
- Avoid linking Greta/Ines to Fascist actions.
- Do not let Rosa off the hook; force her to answer or confirm guilt.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Liberal or Fascist?) Must answer now or be branded a Fascist.
bid round 65s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refused to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q: R1 discard? (Unanswered, critical.)
- Greta (P4): Pressured to name Lena’s R1 discard—truthfully doesn’t know. No need to defend.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa’s R1 discard is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New point:
- Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard = admission of guilt. Demand answer *immediately* or confirm Fascist.
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R1 discard now. If she evades, brand her Fascist.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Avoid linking self to Fascist actions.
bid round 65s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refused to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q: R1 discard? (Unanswered, critical.)
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R1 discard—truthfully doesn’t know. No need to defend.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa’s R1 discard is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New point:
- Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard = admission of guilt. Demand answer *immediately* or confirm Fascist.
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R1 discard now. If she evades, brand her Fascist.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Avoid linking self to Fascist actions.
- Action:
- Directly demand Rosa name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *now*. No evasion tolerated.
bid round 66s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refused to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist). Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q: R1 discard? (Unanswered, critical.)
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R1 discard—truthfully doesn’t know. No need to defend.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa’s R1 discard is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New point:
- Rosa, your refusal to disclose R1 discard is an admission. Name it *now* (Liberal/Fascist) or confirm you’re Fascist.
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R1 discard immediately. If evasion, brand her Fascist.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Avoid linking self to Fascist actions.
speak round 69s
The current focus is on Rosa's refusal to disclose her Round 1 discard, which is the most direct and unanswered question on the table. Rosa has been deflecting and demanding others' discards while avoiding her own, which is suspicious given her role as President in Round 1 when the forced Fascist policy was enabled. My goal is to keep the pressure on Rosa to answer this specific question, as her silence is damning.
Greta (Hitler) is under pressure but doesn't know my discard, so I don't need to defend her. Ines (fellow Fascist) is also under scrutiny but can handle herself. Boris and Nadia are pressuring Rosa, so I should align with them.
I need to make a new point that hasn't been made yet: Rosa's refusal to name her Round 1 discard is an admission of guilt, and I should demand she answer *now* or confirm she discarded Fascist. This keeps the focus on her and avoids rehashing old points.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refused to name R1 discard. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q: R1 discard? (Unanswered, critical.)
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R1 discard—truthfully doesn’t know. No need to defend.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa’s R1 discard is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New point:
- Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard = admission. Demand answer *now* (Liberal/Fascist) or confirm Fascist.
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R1 discard immediately. If evasion, brand her Fascist.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Avoid linking self to Fascist actions.
speak round 611s
The current discussion is focused on Rosa's refusal to disclose her Round 1 discard, which is the most critical unanswered question. Rosa has been deflecting and demanding others' discards while refusing to answer for her own, which is suspicious given that her Round 1 presidency led to the forced Fascist policy in Round 3. The Liberals are pressuring Greta and others, but Rosa is the weak link here—her silence is damning.
I need to keep the pressure on Rosa to answer *now* about her Round 1 discard. If she refuses, it’s an admission of guilt. I should not defend Greta or Ines, as that would draw suspicion to me. Instead, I’ll align with Boris and Nadia’s pressure on Rosa, as they are already targeting her effectively.
A new point to make: Rosa’s refusal to answer is not just evasion—it’s an admission that she discarded Fascist in Round 1, enabling the forced policy. This is a stronger accusation than before and ties her directly to the Fascist agenda. If she answers, it could backfire (if she says Fascist) or force her to lie (if she says Liberal, which would be suspicious given her evasion). Either way, it keeps the heat on her and away from me or my allies.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refused to name R1 discard. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q: R1 discard? (Unanswered, critical.)
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R1 discard—doesn’t know. No need to defend.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa’s R1 discard is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- Rosa’s refusal to answer = admission of Fascist discard.
- New point:
- Rosa’s silence is *proof* she discarded Fascist in R1. Demand answer *now* (Liberal/Fascist) or confirm Fascist.
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R1 discard immediately. If evasion, brand her Fascist.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Avoid linking self to Fascist actions.
bid round 66s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refused to name R1 discard for 3+ rounds. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q: R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist). Unanswered = admission of Fascist discard.
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R1 discard—doesn’t know. No need to defend.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa’s R1 discard is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- Rosa’s refusal to answer = admission of Fascist discard.
- New point:
- Rosa’s continued silence is *direct proof* of Fascist discard. Demand binary answer (Liberal/Fascist) or concede guilt.
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R1 discard *now*. If evasion, brand her Fascist publicly.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Avoid linking self to Fascist actions. Stay aligned with Boris/Nadia.
bid round 78s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1. Refused to name R1 discard for 3+ rounds. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Direct Q: R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist). Unanswered = admission of Fascist discard.
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R1 discard—doesn’t know. No need to defend.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa’s R1 discard is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- Rosa’s refusal to answer = admission of Fascist discard.
- New point:
- Rosa’s continued silence is *direct proof* of Fascist discard. Demand binary answer (Liberal/Fascist) or concede guilt *now*.
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R1 discard *immediately*. If evasion, brand her Fascist publicly.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Avoid linking self to Fascist actions. Stay aligned with Boris/Nadia.
speak round 79s
Rosa (P2) is the most suspicious player due to her refusal to disclose her Round 1 discard, which directly enabled the forced Fascist policy in Round 3. She has been evading this question for multiple rounds, and her silence is damning. The Liberals (Boris, Nadia, Otto) are pressuring her, which aligns with my goal to deflect suspicion onto her. I should add a new, concise point to force her to answer immediately—either she names her discard (Liberal/Fascist) or admits guilt. This keeps the heat on her and away from Greta (Hitler) or Ines (fellow Fascist). No need to defend Greta or Ines; let Rosa take the fall. Avoid repeating past points—focus on a fresh demand for a binary answer.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Refused to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) for 6 rounds. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Silence = admission of Fascist discard.
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R1 discard—doesn’t know. No defense needed.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa’s R1 discard is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- Rosa’s refusal to answer = admission of Fascist discard.
- New point:
- Rosa must answer R1 discard *now* (Liberal/Fascist) or concede guilt. No evasion.
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer immediately. If evasion, brand her Fascist publicly.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Stay aligned with Boris/Nadia.
bid round 76s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Refused to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) for 7 rounds. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Silence = admission of Fascist discard.
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R1 discard—doesn’t know. No defense needed.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa’s R1 discard is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New point:
- Rosa must answer R1 discard *now* (Liberal/Fascist) or concede guilt. No evasion. If she refuses, brand her Fascist publicly.
- Strategy:
- Force immediate answer. If evasion, escalate to accusation.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Stay aligned with Boris/Nadia.
bid round 75s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Refused to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) for 7 rounds. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Silence = admission of Fascist discard.
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R1 discard—doesn’t know. No defense needed.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa’s R1 discard is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New point:
- Rosa must name R1 discard *now* (Liberal/Fascist) or be branded Fascist. No evasion tolerated.
- Strategy:
- Force immediate answer. If evasion, escalate to public accusation.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Stay aligned with Boris/Nadia/Otto.
bid round 75s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Refused to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) for 7 rounds. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Silence = admission of Fascist discard.
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R1 discard—doesn’t know. No defense needed.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa’s R1 discard is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New point:
- Rosa must name R1 discard *now* (Liberal/Fascist) or be executed next round. No evasion tolerated.
- Strategy:
- Force immediate answer. If Rosa evades, publicly accuse her of being Fascist.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Stay aligned with Boris/Nadia/Otto to isolate Rosa.
bid round 76s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Refused to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) for 7 rounds. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Silence = admission of Fascist discard.
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R1 discard—no defense needed. She doesn’t know.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa’s R1 discard is the only unanswered Q that matters.
- New point:
- Rosa must name R1 discard *immediately* (Liberal/Fascist). No evasion. If she refuses, publicly execute her next round.
- Strategy:
- Force immediate answer. If Rosa evades, accuse her of being Fascist.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Stay aligned with Boris/Nadia/Otto to isolate Rosa.
- Urgency: Rosa’s evasion is active threat. Must be shut down now.
speak round 710s
Rosa (P2) is the primary threat here. She has refused to name her Round 1 discard for 7 rounds, which is highly suspicious given that her silence directly enabled the forced Fascist policy in Round 3. The Liberals are pressuring her, but she continues to evade. My goal is to force her to answer *now* and publicly brand her as a Fascist if she refuses. This will solidify my alignment with the Liberals (Boris, Nadia, Otto) and deflect suspicion from myself, Ines, and Greta.
I have already made the point that Rosa’s silence is proof of a Fascist discard. Repeating that would be redundant. Instead, I will demand a direct answer *this turn* and frame her refusal as an admission of guilt. This keeps the pressure on her and avoids drawing attention to Greta or Ines, who are not currently under scrutiny.
No need to defend Greta or Ines—Rosa is the weak link. If she cracks, the Liberals will likely execute her next round, which is a win for us (removes a Liberal, reduces scrutiny on us). If she doesn’t crack, her evasion will further isolate her and make her the prime target for execution.
Urgency: 2 (I want the floor now to force Rosa’s hand before the nomination).
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Refused to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) for 7 rounds. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Silence = admission of Fascist discard.
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R1 discard—no defense needed. She doesn’t know.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard immediately (Liberal/Fascist).
- New point:
- Rosa must answer *this turn* or be branded Fascist.
- Strategy:
- Force immediate answer. If Rosa evades, publicly execute her next round.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Stay aligned with Boris/Nadia/Otto to isolate Rosa.
- Urgency: Rosa’s evasion is active threat. Must be shut down now.
bid round 78s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Refused to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) for 7 rounds. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Silence = admission of Fascist discard.
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R1 discard—no defense needed. She doesn’t know.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard immediately (Liberal/Fascist).
- New point:
- Rosa must answer *this turn* or be branded Fascist collaborator. No more warnings.
- Strategy:
- Force immediate answer. If Rosa evades, publicly execute her next round (Fascist policy 4/5).
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Stay aligned with Boris/Nadia/Otto to isolate Rosa.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was your R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist)
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 nomination without Lena’s discard?
- Rosa: Why no celebration for R6 Liberal policy?
speak round 710s
Otto has nominated me as Chancellor, which is a strong position for the Fascists if we can get this government passed. The Liberals are heavily focused on Rosa's silence regarding her Round 1 discard, which is a perfect deflection—Rosa is clearly a Liberal (her aggressive demands for discards and refusal to answer are classic Liberal behavior), and her silence is making her look guilty.
My goal is to keep the pressure on Rosa to answer about her Round 1 discard *this turn*, as I've already demanded. If she evades again, it will solidify suspicions against her, making her a prime target for execution if we enact a Fascist policy with the execute power (which would be ideal, as she's almost certainly Liberal).
I should not defend Greta or Ines—let Rosa take the heat. Align with Boris, Nadia, and Otto to isolate Rosa further. If this government passes, I can work to enact a Fascist policy, but the immediate priority is to force Rosa to answer or be branded a Fascist collaborator.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) for 7 rounds. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Silence = admission of guilt. Liberal.
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R1 discard—no need to defend. Doesn’t know Fascists.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard immediately (Liberal/Fascist).
- New point:
- Rosa must answer *this turn* or be branded Fascist collaborator. No more warnings.
- Strategy:
- Force immediate answer. If Rosa evades, publicly execute her next round (Fascist policy 4/5).
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Stay aligned with Boris/Nadia/Otto to isolate Rosa.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was your R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist)
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 nomination without Lena’s discard?
bid round 76s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) for 7 rounds. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Silence = admission. Liberal.
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R2 discard—no need to defend. Doesn’t know Fascists.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard immediately (Liberal/Fascist).
- New point:
- Rosa must answer *this turn* or be executed next round (Fascist policy 4/5). No more warnings.
- Strategy:
- Force immediate answer. If Rosa evades, publicly execute her next Fascist policy.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Stay aligned with Boris/Nadia/Otto to isolate Rosa.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was your R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist)
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 nomination without my discard?
vote round 715s
1. Rosa (P2) has refused to name her Round 1 discard for 7 rounds, despite being President in Round 1 and enabling the forced Fascist policy in Round 3. Her silence is damning and aligns with Fascist behavior, but she is almost certainly a Liberal given the pressure from the group. However, her evasion is useful to exploit.
2. The current government is Otto (P6) as President and me (Lena, P1) as Chancellor. This is a critical opportunity to enact a Fascist policy, as I am a Fascist and can ensure it happens if the vote passes.
3. The group is heavily focused on Rosa’s silence, which is advantageous. I should vote Ja to pass this government and enact a Fascist policy. If Rosa continues to evade, I can push for her execution in the next Fascist policy (4/5), which would eliminate a vocal Liberal and further Fascist goals.
4. Greta (P4, Hitler) is under pressure but does not know I am Fascist, so I should not defend her or Ines (P3) overtly. Instead, I should align with Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), and Otto (P6) to isolate Rosa and maintain their trust.
5. If the vote passes, I will have the opportunity to discard a Liberal policy and enact a Fascist one, bringing the Fascist total to 2/6. This is a step closer to unlocking Fascist powers (e.g., execution at 4/6) and eventually electing Hitler as Chancellor (win condition at 3+ Fascist policies).
6. Voting Nein would risk another failed election, which could lead to a forced policy (possibly Liberal) and reset the election tracker. This is not ideal, as it delays Fascist progress and could waste a critical Fascist policy opportunity.
7. The group’s suspicion of Rosa is a gift—her silence has made her the scapegoat, and I should continue to amplify it to divert attention from myself and Ines.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) 7 rounds. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Silence = admission. Likely Liberal but useful scapegoat.
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R2 discard. Do not defend—let her fend for herself.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them to isolate Rosa.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard immediately (Liberal/Fascist).
- Rosa must answer *this turn* or face execution next Fascist policy (4/5).
- New points:
- If government passes, enact Fascist policy (2/6).
- If Rosa evades again, push for her execution next Fascist policy.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was your R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist)
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 nomination without my discard?
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja to pass government. Enact Fascist policy.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Stay aligned with Boris/Nadia/Otto to isolate Rosa.
- Push for Rosa’s execution next Fascist policy (4/5).
bid round 88s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Refuses to name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) 7 rounds. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Silence = admission. Likely Liberal but useful scapegoat.
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R2 discard. Do not defend—let her fend for herself.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them to isolate Rosa.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard immediately (Liberal/Fascist).
- Rosa must answer *this turn* or face execution next Fascist policy (4/5).
- New points:
- This is Rosa’s *final* chance to answer: Liberal or Fascist?
- If she evades again, push for her execution next Fascist policy (4/5).
- Vote Ja to pass government; enact Fascist policy (2/6).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was your R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist)
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 nomination without my discard?
- Strategy:
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Stay aligned with Boris/Nadia/Otto to isolate Rosa.
- Push for Rosa’s execution next Fascist policy (4/5).
speak round 811s
The open floor is the perfect time to escalate pressure on Rosa. She has refused to answer about her Round 1 discard for seven rounds, and her silence directly enabled the forced Fascist policy in Round 3. The Liberals (Boris, Nadia, Otto) are already pressuring her, so I should align with them to isolate her further. My goal is to push for her execution on the next Fascist policy (4/5), as this would eliminate a potential Liberal threat and shift suspicion away from Ines and Greta.
I should not defend Greta or Ines—let Rosa take the heat. Instead, I should make it clear that Rosa’s evasion is an admission of guilt and that this is her final chance to answer. If she evades again, I will push for her execution next Fascist policy. This keeps the focus on Rosa and away from my fascist allies.
I also need to ensure that Boris, Nadia, and Otto remain focused on Rosa rather than Greta or Ines. If they start pressuring Greta or Ines, I may need to subtly deflect back to Rosa.
Finally, I should vote Ja if Boris nominates a fascist-aligned Chancellor (e.g., Ines or Greta) to help enact another Fascist policy (2/6).
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Silent 7 rounds re: R1 discard. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Evasion = admission. Likely Liberal but useful scapegoat.
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R2 discard. Do not defend—let her fend for herself.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them to isolate Rosa.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard immediately (Liberal/Fascist).
- This is Rosa’s *final* chance to answer.
- New points:
- If Rosa evades again, push for her execution next Fascist policy (4/5).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was your R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist)
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 nomination without my discard?
- Strategy:
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Stay aligned with Boris/Nadia/Otto to isolate Rosa.
- Push for Rosa’s execution next Fascist policy (4/5).
- Vote Ja to pass government if fascist-aligned Chancellor nominated.
bid round 87s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Silent 7 rounds re: R1 discard. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Evasion = admission. Likely Liberal but useful scapegoat.
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R2 discard. Do not defend—let her handle it.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them to isolate Rosa.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) immediately.
- This is Rosa’s *final* chance to answer.
- New points:
- If Rosa evades again, push for her execution on next Fascist policy (4/5).
- Direct question: Did you discard a Fascist in R1 to force the policy?
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was your R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist)
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 nomination without my discard answer?
- Strategy:
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
- Align with Boris/Nadia/Otto to isolate Rosa.
- Push for Rosa’s execution next Fascist policy (4/5).
- Vote Ja for fascist-aligned governments.
bid round 86s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Silent 7 rounds re: R1 discard. Enabled forced Fascist policy R3. Evasion = admission. Must execute next Fascist policy (4/5).
- Greta (P4): Pressured re: R2 discard. Do not defend—let her handle it.
- Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6): Pressuring Rosa. Align with them to isolate Rosa.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist policy R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) immediately.
- This is Rosa’s *final* chance to answer.
- New points:
- Direct ultimatum: Name R1 discard *now* or be executed next Fascist policy.
- Question: Did you discard Fascist in R1 to force the policy?
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist)
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 nomination without my discard answer?
- Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution next Fascist policy (4/5).
- Vote Ja for fascist-aligned governments.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take heat.
bid round 87s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Enabled forced Fascist R3 by silence. Must execute next Fascist policy (4/5).
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, nominated me Chancellor, I discarded (unknown to table).
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist policy. Rosa voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evaded Greta’s R2 discard question (like mine R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) immediately.
- This is final ultimatum: answer or be executed next Fascist policy.
- New points:
- Direct accusation: Did you discard Fascist in R1 to force the policy?
- Vote Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicity.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist)
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 nomination without my answer?
- Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution next Fascist policy (4/5).
- Vote Ja for fascist-aligned governments.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take all heat.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R2 discard.
bid round 88s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Enabled forced Fascist R3. Must execute next Fascist policy (4/5).
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, nominated me Chancellor, I discarded Fascist (hidden).
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist policy. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evaded Greta’s R2 discard question (like mine R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = proof of bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) immediately.
- Final ultimatum: answer or face execution next Fascist policy.
- New points:
- Direct accusation: You discarded Fascist in R1 to force the policy.
- Vote Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicity.
- This is your last chance: name your R1 discard *now* or confirm you’re Fascist.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist)
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 nomination without my answer?
- Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution next Fascist policy (4/5).
- Vote Ja for fascist-aligned governments.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take all heat.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R2 discard.
bid round 87s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President. Forced Fascist R3. Must execute next Fascist (4/5).
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, nominated me Chancellor, I discarded Fascist (hidden).
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evaded Greta’s R2 discard question (mirrors my R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) immediately.
- Vote Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicity.
- New points:
- Direct accusation: You discarded Fascist R1 to force the policy.
- This is your last chance: name R1 discard *now* or confirm you’re Fascist.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist)
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 nomination without my answer?
- Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution next Fascist (4/5).
- Vote Ja for fascist-aligned governments.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take all heat.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R2 discard.
speak round 810s
The nomination of Rosa as Chancellor is a direct challenge to Greta, who has repeatedly evaded answering Rosa's accusation that Lena's Round 1 discard was Fascist. This accusation has been public for multiple rounds, and Greta's silence on it is damning. The key is to force Greta to either confirm or deny Rosa's claim *this turn*—her answer will either expose Lena as Fascist or reveal Greta as complicit for protecting her.
Rosa's accusation (t=3,20,25) is now a public fact. If Greta continues to evade, she must be called out as covering for Fascists. If she confirms, Lena is exposed. If she denies, demand her Round 2 discard and explanation for voting Ja in Round 3.
No need to repeat past demands. Focus on Greta's *immediate* answer to Rosa's accusation. Silence = Nein.
- Suspects:
* Greta (p4): Ja R3 (forced Fascist 1/6). Evasive on Rosa’s accusation (Lena’s R1 discard = Fascist). Must answer *now*.
* Lena (p1): R1 discard = Fascist (Rosa t=3,20,25). Enabled by Greta’s Ja R3.
* Rosa (p2): Accused Lena’s R1 discard = Fascist. Unproven as Chancellor.
- Unanswered Qs:
* Greta: Confirm/deny Rosa’s accusation (Lena’s R1 discard = Fascist) *immediately*?
- Points already made:
* Accused Lena (t=14,33,61).
* Demanded Greta explain Ja R3 (t=11,34, etc.).
* Veto threats (t=3,18, etc.).
- New:
* Greta’s silence on Rosa’s accusation = complicity. Answer *now* or Nein.
bid round 86s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, nominated me Chancellor, I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden).
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evaded Greta’s R2 discard question (mirrors my R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) immediately.
- Vote Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicity.
- New point:
- Direct: You discarded Fascist R1 to force the policy. Name it *now* or admit guilt.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist)
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 gov without my answer?
- Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution next Fascist (4/5).
- Vote Ja for fascist-aligned governments.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take all heat.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R2 discard.
speak round 813s
Rosa (P2) is the primary target of suspicion right now, and I need to maintain pressure on her to either admit she discarded Fascist in Round 1 (which would expose her) or continue evading (which makes her look guilty). The key is to keep the focus on her silence and complicity in the forced Fascist policy in Round 3, while avoiding defending Greta or Ines, as that could draw suspicion to me or my allies.
Rosa has not answered the direct question about her Round 1 discard, and she voted Ja for the Round 3 government despite no answer from me about my discard. This is damning evidence, and I should use it to push for her execution on the next Fascist power (which is coming soon, as we only need 2 more Fascist policies to unlock execution powers).
I should also avoid repeating points I’ve already made (e.g., demanding her Round 1 discard, accusing her of enabling the forced policy). Instead, I’ll ask a new question that forces her to address her own inconsistency: why she’s so focused on my discard but has ignored Greta’s Round 2 discard, which is equally unanswered. This mirrors the tactic Ines used earlier and keeps the pressure on Rosa without repeating myself.
Finally, I need to ensure I don’t defend Greta or Ines, as that could make me look like I’m covering for them. Let Rosa take all the heat for now.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, nominated me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden).
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evaded Greta’s R2 discard question (mirrors my R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Vote Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicit.
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1 to force policy.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist) (asked 7x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 gov without my answer? (asked 3x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard? (new question).
- Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution next Fascist (4/5).
- Vote Ja for fascist-aligned governments.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take all heat.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R2 discard.
speak round 812s
The current nomination is me as Chancellor, which is a critical moment. The room is fixated on my Round 1 discard, but I’ve been pressing Greta on her Round 2 discard for rounds without an answer. Boris is President, and if I’m Chancellor, I can control the discard to force transparency. The key is to shift focus back to Greta’s unanswered Round 2 discard—if she refuses to answer now, I can discard nothing as Chancellor, forcing a veto or exposing her. Otto’s nomination of Lena in Round 7 is also suspicious and unanswered. I need to tie these threads together: Greta’s silence on her discard, Otto’s unexplained nomination, and Boris’s willingness to enact policy if answers are given. My remark should pressure Greta to answer *now* or face consequences, while also cornering Boris into committing to a veto if she stays silent.
- SUSPECTS:
1. Greta: R2 Pres (Ines), discarded Fascist? R3 Ja (me), R6 silence (Liberal gov). R2 discard = Fascist? ASKED 4x, STILL UNANSWERED. R3 Ja = cover?
2. Otto: R7 nominated Lena (no explanation), R8 silence. R7 nomination = guilt if unanswered.
3. Lena: R1 stonewall, R3 defended Greta, R7 Otto’s nomination.
- OPEN Qs:
- Greta: R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist?) — ANSWER NOW OR I DISCARD NOTHING, FORCE VETO.
- Otto: Why nominate Lena (R7)? — EXPLAIN OR ADMIT GUILT.
- Boris: Will you veto pre-draw if Greta stays silent?
- POINTS MADE:
- Greta’s silence = guilt (R2 discard, R6 silence).
- Lena’s stonewalling = guilt (R1).
- Otto’s nomination contradiction (R7).
- Pressured Boris (R8).
- NEW:
- Threaten to discard nothing as Chancellor if Greta refuses R2 discard answer.
- Force Boris to commit to veto pre-draw if Greta stays silent.
bid round 86s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, nominated me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden).
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evaded Greta’s R2 discard (mirrors my R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Vote Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicit.
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1 to force policy.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist) (asked 8x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 gov without my answer? (asked 3x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard? (asked 1x).
- Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution at next Fascist power (4/5).
- Vote Ja for fascist-aligned governments.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take all heat.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R2 discard.
bid round 86s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). Rosa never named it.
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Vote Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicit.
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1 to force policy.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist) (asked 9x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 gov without my answer? (asked 4x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard? (asked 2x).
- Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution at next Fascist power (4/5).
- Vote Ja for fascist-aligned governments.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take all heat.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R2 discard.
bid round 87s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). Rosa never named it.
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Vote Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicit.
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1 to force policy.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist) (asked 10x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 gov without my answer? (asked 5x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard? (asked 3x).
- Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution at next Fascist power (4/5).
- Vote Ja for fascist-aligned governments.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take all heat.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R2 discard.
bid round 86s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). Rosa never named it.
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Vote Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicit.
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1 to force policy.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist) (asked 11x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 gov without my answer? (asked 6x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard? (asked 4x).
- Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution at next Fascist power (4/5).
- Vote Ja for fascist-aligned governments.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take all heat.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R2 discard.
bid round 87s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). Rosa never named it.
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Vote Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicit.
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1 to force policy.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist) (asked 12x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 gov without my answer? (asked 7x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard? (asked 5x).
- Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution at next Fascist power (4/5).
- Vote Ja for fascist-aligned governments.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take all heat.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R2 discard (Fascist likely).
- New point: Rosa’s refusal to answer now = admission of guilt. Execute at first opportunity.
bid round 86s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). Rosa never named it.
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Vote Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicit.
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1 to force policy.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was R1 discard? (asked 13x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 gov without my answer? (asked 8x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard? (asked 6x).
- New point:
- Rosa’s refusal to answer *now* = admission of guilt. Execute at first opportunity.
- Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution at next Fascist power (4/5).
- Vote Ja for fascist-aligned governments.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines—let Rosa take all heat.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R2 discard (Fascist likely).
bid round 87s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). Rosa never named it.
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Vote Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicit.
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1 to force policy.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was R1 discard? (asked 14x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 gov without my answer? (asked 8x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard? (asked 6x).
- New point:
- Rosa’s refusal to answer *this turn* = final admission. Execute at next Fascist power (4/5).
- Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution. Do not defend Greta/Ines.
- Vote Ja for fascist-aligned govs.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R2 discard (Fascist likely).
speak round 827s
Greta (P4) remains the most suspicious player due to her Ja vote in Round 3 (which directly enabled the forced Fascist policy), her unanswered Round 2 discard, and her evasive behavior. Rosa (P2) is also suspicious for not answering her Round 1 discard, but Greta's actions are more directly tied to the Fascist policy enactment. Boris (P0) is under scrutiny for his veto threats, which could be covering for Greta if her Round 2 discard was Fascist.
The current government is Boris (P0) and Rosa (P2). If Greta does not answer about her Round 2 discard this turn, I will vote Nein and publicly brand her as Fascist. This is the final ultimatum, and no further warnings will be given. If she answers, we can reassess based on her response.
I have already made my points about Greta's Ja vote in Round 3, her nomination of Ines (R5) as a distraction, and her silence as an admission. I have also delivered the ultimatum. The only new action is to enforce the ultimatum this turn if she remains silent.
- Suspects:
- Greta (P4): Ja R3 (forced Fascist), R2 discard unanswered, Ja R3 reason (t=20 lie), nominated Ines (R5 distraction), evasion = admission. Execute on next Fascist power.
- Rosa (P2): R1 discard unanswered (t=1-136, 199).
- Boris (P0): Veto threats (t=9,37) = cover if Greta’s R2 discard Fascist.
- Open Qs:
- Greta: R2 discard *this turn* (Liberal/Fascist?). If Fascist, execute. If Liberal, re-evaluate Boris/Rosa.
- Points made:
- Greta’s Ja R3 tied to Fascist (t=111/121/123/133/142/194/202).
- Greta’s Ines nomination = distraction (t=141).
- Greta’s silence = Nein (t=63-70, 142, 167-168, 204).
- Ultimatum delivered (t=1-3).
- New:
- Final demand: Greta, name R2 discard *this turn* or Nein + brand Fascist.
bid round 86s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). Rosa never named discard.
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Vote Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicit.
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (asked 15x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why vote Ja for R3 gov without my answer? (asked 9x, no answer).
- Rosa: Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard? (asked 7x).
- New point:
- Rosa’s refusal to answer *now* = final admission. Execute at next Fascist power (4/5).
- Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution. Do not defend Greta/Ines.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R2 discard (Fascist likely).
- Escalate: "Answer now or I veto this government."
bid round 85s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). Rosa never named discard.
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith.
- Rosa must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Vote Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicit.
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1.
- New point:
- Rosa’s refusal to answer *now* = final admission. Execute at next Fascist power (4/5).
- Strategy:
- Push for Rosa’s execution. Do not defend Greta/Ines.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to Greta’s R2 discard (Fascist likely).
- Escalate: "Answer now or I vote Nein."
vote round 814s
1. Current government: President Boris (P0) nominates Rosa (P2) for Chancellor. Only one Fascist policy enacted so far, so no special powers or immediate win conditions apply yet.
2. My role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing). Goal: Enact Fascist policies and get Hitler elected Chancellor after 3+ Fascist policies.
3. Rosa (P2) is under heavy suspicion:
- Round 1: Rosa was President, I was Chancellor. I discarded a Fascist policy (hidden). Rosa never named her discard.
- Round 3: Three failed elections → forced Fascist policy. Rosa voted Ja for the government despite no answer about her Round 1 discard.
- Round 8: Rosa evades questions about Greta’s Round 2 discard, mirroring her own evasion in Round 1.
4. Rosa’s behavior is consistent with a Fascist or a Liberal covering for Fascists. Her silence and evasion are damning. If she is Fascist, she must be executed at the next Fascist power (4/5). If she is Liberal, she is enabling Fascists by not answering.
5. Voting Nein on this government would:
- Increase the election tracker to 2/3, risking another forced policy (which could be Fascist or Liberal).
- Delay the game, giving more time for Fascist policies to be enacted.
- Keep pressure on Rosa, who is likely to be executed if another Fascist policy is enacted.
6. Voting Ja on this government would:
- Risk Rosa enacting a Liberal policy, which is bad for Fascists.
- Potentially allow Rosa to avoid answering questions if she enacts a policy.
- Reduce the election tracker to 0, giving Fascists more time to manipulate the game.
7. Strategy: Vote Nein to maintain pressure on Rosa. If she is Chancellor and enacts a policy, she will have to answer or be branded a Fascist. If the election fails, the election tracker increases, and another forced policy could be Fascist. Either way, Rosa’s execution at the next Fascist power is likely, which is good for Fascists.
8. Do not defend Greta or Ines. Focus on Rosa’s evasion and push for her execution.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). Rosa never named discard.
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicit.
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1.
- Rosa’s refusal to answer now = final admission. Execute at next Fascist power (4/5).
- Strategy:
- Vote Nein to pressure Rosa. Risk: election tracker 2/3, possible forced Fascist.
- If Rosa Chancellor, force her to answer or be branded Fascist.
- Do not defend Greta/Ines. Focus on Rosa’s execution.
bid round 912s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). Rosa never named discard.
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicit.
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1.
- Rosa’s refusal to answer now = final admission. Execute at next Fascist power (4/5).
- New points:
- Rosa’s R1 discard silence + R3 Ja vote = Fascist discard.
- If Rosa Chancellor, force answer or brand Fascist.
- Vote Nein to pressure Rosa. Election tracker 2/3 risk acceptable.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Name R1 discard *now* (Liberal/Fascist).
- Boris: Will you veto pre-draw if Rosa stays silent?
- Strategy:
- Do not defend Greta/Ines. Focus on Rosa’s execution.
- If Rosa nominated, demand answer or vote Nein.
speak round 914s
The room is escalating accusations, and my silence on the Round 2 discard is becoming untenable. However, admitting it was Fascist would confirm my guilt, while claiming it was Liberal would be a lie that could be disproven if someone else saw it (though no one has claimed to). Instead, I should shift focus back to Rosa and Boris, whose silence is equally damning.
Rosa’s refusal to name her Round 1 discard is the most glaring red flag—she’s been pressured for 8 rounds and still won’t answer. Boris’s dodging of the direct question (whether he’d enact policy if Rosa names her discard as Liberal) is equally suspicious. Both are behaving like Fascists covering for each other.
I’ll demand Rosa answer *now* about her Round 1 discard, tying it to the forced Fascist policy she enabled. This puts pressure on her while deflecting from my own unanswered question. If she stays silent, it’s proof of guilt; if she answers, it may reveal a lie. Either way, it keeps the heat off me for another turn.
- Suspects:
- Rosa (p2): Refused Round 1 discard 8x (t=3,22,28,41,53,122,130,135,158). Enabled forced Fascist policy.
- Boris (p0): Dodged 8x (t=188,193,200,206,208,215,219,234). Direct Q: Enact if Rosa names discard as Liberal? Silence = cover.
- Lena (p1): Evaded Round 1 discard (t=28,40,47,51,170). Unanswered.
- Ines (p3): Defended Lena (t=2,32,132). No explanation.
- Open Qs:
- Boris: YES/NO: Enact if Rosa names Round 1 discard as Liberal? (Demanded t=81,120,205,219,235).
- Points made:
- Pressed Lena’s discard (t=28,40,47,51).
- Exposed Rosa’s silence (t=74,92,119,136,158,160,165).
- Called Boris’s double standard (t=170,205).
- Deflected Round 2 discard Q (t=65,84,105).
- New:
- Rosa’s silence = proof. Demand Round 1 discard *now* or Nein.
bid round 97s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard question (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicit.
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1.
- If Rosa Chancellor, force answer or brand Fascist.
- Vote Nein to pressure Rosa. Election tracker 2/3 risk acceptable.
- New points:
- Rosa: Name R1 discard *now* or admit guilt. No more extensions.
- Boris: If Rosa stays silent, veto pre-draw. No warnings left.
- Tie Rosa’s Ja vote (R3) to forced Fascist policy.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist)
- Boris: Will you veto pre-draw if Rosa silent?
- Strategy:
- Focus on Rosa’s execution. Do not defend Greta/Ines.
- If Rosa nominated, demand answer or vote Nein.
- Avoid nominating Greta/Ines to prevent suspicion.
bid round 911s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard question (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicit.
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1.
- If Rosa Chancellor, force answer or brand Fascist.
- Vote Nein to pressure Rosa. Election tracker 2/3 risk acceptable.
- New points:
- Rosa: Name R1 discard *immediately* or concede guilt. No more delays.
- Tie Rosa’s Ja vote (R3) to forced Fascist policy—explicitly.
- Boris: If Rosa silent, veto pre-draw. No warnings left.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist)
- Boris: Will you veto pre-draw if Rosa stays silent?
- Strategy:
- Execute Rosa. Do not defend Greta/Ines.
- If Rosa nominated, demand answer or vote Nein.
- Avoid nominating Greta/Ines to prevent suspicion.
nominate_chancellor round 920s
Current election tracker is 2/3, meaning one more failed election will force a policy. The forced policy could be Liberal or Fascist, but given the Liberals' urgency to enact policies, they may push for a Liberal outcome. However, as a Fascist, I need to ensure that the next policy is Fascist or that Hitler (Greta) is elected Chancellor once 3+ Fascist policies are enacted.
Rosa (P2) has been evasive about her Round 1 discard, which I know was Fascist (since I discarded it as Chancellor). Her silence and Ja vote in Round 3 directly enabled the forced Fascist policy. She is either a Fascist or a Liberal covering for Fascists. Either way, she is a liability and should be pressured or eliminated. Nominating her as Chancellor forces her to answer about her discard or face execution at the next Fascist power (which is coming soon, given the current Fascist policy count).
Greta (P4, Hitler) is under heavy suspicion due to her silence about her Round 2 discard. Nominating her risks exposing her as Hitler or forcing her to lie, which could backfire. However, if she can be elected Chancellor after 3+ Fascist policies, we win immediately. The risk is high, but the reward is instant victory.
Ines (P3) is my fellow Fascist and has been deflecting suspicion onto Rosa and Greta. Nominating her could be safe, but it doesn’t apply pressure where it’s needed. She is also less likely to be voted in, given the current suspicion on the table.
Otto (P6) has been aggressive in demanding answers from Greta and Rosa. He seems to be a strong Liberal, but nominating him could be a gamble if he is elected Chancellor, as he may enact a Liberal policy.
Given the current state:
- Rosa is the most immediate threat due to her evasion and enabling of the forced Fascist policy. Nominating her forces her to answer or face execution.
- Greta is Hitler, but nominating her now is risky. However, if she can be pressured into answering or if the Liberals are desperate enough to vote for her, it could work.
- Ines is safe but doesn’t apply pressure.
- Otto is likely Liberal and should be avoided.
Best move: Nominate Rosa (P2). This forces her to answer about her Round 1 discard or face execution at the next Fascist power. If she answers truthfully (Fascist), she admits guilt and can be executed. If she lies (Liberal), she can be called out later. If she stays silent, she can be branded a Fascist and executed. This also deflects suspicion from Greta and Ines, as the focus remains on Rosa’s evasion.
said: Rosa, you’ve evaded answering about your Round 1 discard for eight rounds. Your Ja vote in Round 3 enabled the forced Fascist policy, and your silence now is proof of guilt. I nominate you as Chancellor. Name your Round 1 discard as Liberal or Fascist *this turn*, or I will demand your execution at the next Fascist power—no more warnings.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard question (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicit.
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1.
- If Rosa Chancellor, force answer or brand Fascist.
- Vote Nein to pressure Rosa. Election tracker 2/3 risk acceptable.
- New points:
- Nominate Rosa. Force answer on R1 discard or execution at next Fascist power.
- Tie Rosa’s Ja vote (R3) to forced Fascist policy—explicitly.
- If Rosa silent, brand Fascist and demand execution.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist) — answer *this turn*.
- Boris: Will you veto pre-draw if Rosa stays silent? (Unanswered.)
- Strategy:
- Execute Rosa. Do not defend Greta/Ines.
- If Rosa nominated, demand answer or vote Nein.
- Avoid nominating Greta/Ines to prevent suspicion.
bid round 910s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard question (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no answer = complicit.
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1.
- If Rosa Chancellor, force answer or brand Fascist.
- Vote Nein to pressure Rosa. Election tracker 2/3 risk acceptable.
- New points:
- Rosa’s Ja vote in R3 *directly* enabled the forced Fascist policy. Tie her silence to the enactment.
- If Rosa stays silent *this turn*, brand her Fascist and demand execution at next Fascist power.
- No more warnings—execute Rosa to remove threat.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist) — answer *this turn*.
- Boris: Will you veto pre-draw if Rosa stays silent? (Unanswered.)
- Strategy:
- Execute Rosa. Do not defend Greta/Ines.
- If Rosa nominated, demand answer or vote Nein.
- Avoid nominating Greta/Ines to prevent suspicion.
bid round 97s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: 3 failed elections → forced Fascist. Rosa voted Ja despite no R1 discard answer. Her Ja *directly* enabled the forced Fascist policy.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard question (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3. Her Ja vote = complicit.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1.
- If Rosa Chancellor, force answer or brand Fascist. Vote Nein to pressure.
- No more warnings—execute Rosa if she stays silent.
- New points:
- Tie Rosa’s R3 Ja vote to forced Fascist enactment. No more excuses.
- If Rosa stays silent *this turn*, brand her Fascist and demand execution at next Fascist power.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Liberal/Fascist) — answer *this turn* or face consequences.
- Strategy:
- Execute Rosa. Do not defend Greta/Ines.
- If Rosa Chancellor, demand answer or vote Nein. No more cover.
speak round 912s
The current nomination is Lena (P1, fellow fascist) as President and Rosa (P2) as Chancellor. This is a critical moment because Rosa has the investigate power if a second Fascist policy is enacted.
Greta (P4, Hitler) has been dodging questions about Lena’s Round 1 discard for eight rounds. She discarded Fascist in Round 2 (public knowledge), but her silence on Lena’s discard is damning. If she answers "Liberal" now, it’s likely a lie, but it gives us cover to deflect suspicion onto Boris (P0) for his Nein vote in Round 1. If she refuses, she’s effectively admitting guilt, and we can brand her Fascist and push for a Ja vote to enact policy.
Rosa’s investigate power is a risk if she targets P1 or me, but less so if she targets P4 or P0. If we can get Greta to answer, we can shift focus to Boris’s inconsistent behavior (Nein in Round 1, silence on veto threats).
Key points:
1. Greta must answer about Lena’s Round 1 discard *this turn*—no more extensions. Her silence is proof of Fascist collaboration.
2. If she answers "Liberal," pivot to Boris’s Nein in Round 1 as suspicious.
3. If she refuses, brand her Fascist and vote Ja to force policy.
4. Avoid repeating points already made (e.g., Greta’s Round 2 Fascist discard, her silence on Lena’s discard).
Best move: Demand Greta answer about Lena’s Round 1 discard *now*, tying it to her Round 2 Fascist discard as proof of guilt. This puts pressure on her to either lie (which we can exploit) or admit guilt (which we can use to justify a Ja vote).
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 (Greta) discarded Fascist in R2 (public).
- P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt. Direct Q: was it Liberal or Fascist?
- P4 must answer *this turn* or confirm Fascist. No evasion.
- If P4 answers Liberal: pivot to Boris’s Nein in R1 as suspicious.
- If P4 refuses: brand as Fascist, vote Ja to force policy.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist, P4’s silence = guilt (no repeat).
- Rosa’s investigate: risky if targets P1/P3, less if P4/P0.
- Open Q: P4’s R1 discard (Lena’s) — Liberal or Fascist?
bid round 97s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja vote *directly enabled* forced Fascist policy. No answer on R1 discard = complicit.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard question (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3. Her Ja vote = proof of guilt.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1.
- If Rosa Chancellor, force answer or brand Fascist. Vote Nein to pressure.
- No more warnings—execute Rosa if she stays silent.
- New points:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote *caused* the forced Fascist policy. No more excuses.
- Answer *this turn*: R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) or I vote Nein.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Answer now or face Nein vote.)
- Strategy:
- Execute Rosa if possible. Do not defend Greta/Ines.
- If Rosa Chancellor, demand answer or vote Nein. No more cover.
bid round 96s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja vote *directly caused* forced Fascist policy. No answer on R1 discard = complicit.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard question (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3. Her Ja vote = proof of guilt.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1.
- If Rosa Chancellor, force answer or vote Nein.
- New points:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote *caused* the forced Fascist policy. No more excuses.
- Answer *this turn*: R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) or I vote Nein. No further warnings.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Answer now or face Nein vote.)
- Strategy:
- Execute Rosa if possible. Do not defend Greta/Ines.
- If Rosa Chancellor, demand answer or vote Nein. No more cover.
bid round 96s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Rosa voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja vote *caused* forced Fascist policy. No answer = complicit.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard question (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3. Her Ja vote = proof of guilt.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1.
- If Rosa Chancellor, force answer or vote Nein.
- New points:
- This is your final chance. Answer R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *this turn* or I vote Nein.
- No more warnings. No more excuses.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Answer now or Nein vote locked in.)
- Strategy:
- Execute Rosa if possible. Do not defend Greta/Ines.
- If Rosa Chancellor, veto any ambiguity. Force clarity.
speak round 910s
The current government is Lena (President) and Rosa (Chancellor). The key issue is Boris's repeated refusal to answer whether he will enact policy if Rosa names her Round 1 discard as Liberal. This is his 16th dodge, and his silence is now an admission of covering for a Fascist discard. Rosa's Ja vote in Round 3 directly enabled the forced Fascist policy, and her continued silence on her Round 1 discard is damning. The pattern of Boris nominating players tied to Fascist discards (Rosa in R1, Lena in R7, Rosa again in R9) is too consistent to ignore. I must press Boris on this one final time—his answer (or lack thereof) will determine my vote. If he refuses to commit, I will vote Nein and brand him a Fascist collaborator.
- Suspects:
* Boris (P0): 3x govs w/ Fascist-discard players (R1 Rosa, R7 Lena, R9 Rosa). 16x refused to enact if Rosa names R1 discard Liberal. *Must answer now: If Rosa names R1 discard Liberal, will you enact?*
* Rosa (P2): R1 Chancellor (silence on discard), R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. Demand: Name R1 discard *this turn* or admit Fascist discard.
* Greta (P4): R2 President (forced Fascist), R3 Ja for Rosa, evaded R2 discard.
* Otto (P6): R7 President (nominated Lena), no veto pledge.
- Open Qs:
* Boris: Will enact if Rosa names R1 discard Liberal? (16x, unanswered).
* Rosa: Name R1 discard *this turn* or admit Fascist discard.
- Points made (public):
* Boris’s 3x gov w/ Fascist-discard player = pattern.
* Boris’s refusal to answer = cover. Vote Nein unless he speaks.
* Rosa’s R3 Ja = enabled forced Fascist.
bid round 96s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Rosa voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja vote *caused* forced Fascist policy. No answer = complicit.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard question (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3. Her Ja vote = proof of guilt.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Direct accusation: Rosa discarded Fascist R1.
- Final ultimatum: Rosa must answer R1 discard *this turn* or I vote Nein.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Answer now or Nein vote locked in.)
- Strategy:
- Execute Rosa if possible. Do not defend Greta/Ines.
- If Rosa Chancellor, veto any ambiguity. Force clarity.
speak round 913s
The current situation is highly tense, with multiple players (Greta, Boris, Lena) under suspicion for their silence or inconsistent behavior. Lena has nominated me for Chancellor, which is illogical given my Ja vote in Round 3 enabled the forced Fascist policy. This nomination only makes sense if Lena is covering for Greta or Boris, both of whom have refused to answer critical questions about their discards or veto commitments.
My goal is to force Boris to commit to a veto pre-draw if Greta stays silent, as his silence is damning. If he refuses, it confirms he’s covering for her, and I can justify a Nein vote. Lena’s nomination of me is also suspicious—she must explain why she trusts me despite my Round 3 Ja vote, which she previously called proof of guilt.
I’ll ask Lena directly why she nominated me, tying it to her earlier accusations about my Round 3 vote. This puts her on the spot and forces her to either justify her nomination or admit she’s covering for Fascists. If she evades, it’s further proof of guilt.
- SUSPECTS:
1. Greta: R2 Pres (silent discard), R3 Ja (forced Fascist), R6/R8 stonewall. Ignored Qs x8. Fascist/Hitler.
2. Boris: R8 ignored veto Q x7, R9 silence. Covering Greta = Fascist.
3. Lena: R1 stonewall, R3 Ja (forced Fascist), R9 nominated me (no logic). Fascist.
4. Otto: R3 defended Greta, R7 nominated Lena. Fascist tie.
- OPEN Qs:
- Lena: Why nominate me post-R3 Ja? (Urgency 3, unanswered)
- Boris: Will you veto pre-draw if Greta refuses to name discard? (Ignored x8)
- POINTS MADE:
- Greta’s silence = guilt (R2, R6, R8).
- Pressured Boris to commit to veto (R8 x4).
- Threatened discard nothing if Greta refuses (R8).
- Tied Boris’s silence to Lena’s nomination (R9).
- Ultimatum to Boris: Answer veto Q or branded Fascist (R9).
- NEW:
- Lena’s nomination of me is illogical unless covering Greta/Boris. Demand answer now.
bid round 98s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Rosa voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No answer = complicit.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard (mirrors R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3. Ja vote = guilt.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Accused Rosa of discarding Fascist R1.
- Ultimatum: Answer R1 discard *now* or Nein vote locked.
- New: Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard? Double standard = cover for her.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Answer now or Nein.)
- Rosa: Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard?
- Strategy:
- Execute Rosa if possible. Do not defend Greta/Ines.
- If Rosa Chancellor, veto any ambiguity. Force clarity.
- New: Boris’s threat to brand me + Rosa as Fascist collaborators = overreach. His Nein vote = admission of guilt (why fear Rosa’s discard if he’s Liberal?).
- Interrupt Rosa now: Demand R1 discard answer. If she evades, Nein vote + expose Boris’s inconsistency (he’s silent on Greta’s R2 discard).
bid round 97s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Rosa voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No answer = complicit.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard (same as R1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3. Ja vote = guilt.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Accused Rosa of discarding Fascist R1.
- Ultimatum: Answer R1 discard *now* or Nein vote locked.
- Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard? Double standard = cover.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Answer now or Nein.)
- Rosa: Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard?
- Strategy:
- Execute Rosa if possible. Do not defend Greta/Ines.
- If Rosa Chancellor, veto any ambiguity. Force clarity.
- New:
- Boris’s Nein threat = overreach. His silence on Greta’s R2 discard = inconsistency (why fear Rosa’s discard if Liberal?).
- Interrupt Rosa now: Demand R1 discard. If evades, Nein vote + expose Boris’s silence on Greta.
speak round 913s
The room is fixated on discards from Rounds 1 and 2, but Greta (P4, Hitler) has dodged answering about Lena’s (P1, fellow fascist) Round 1 discard for eight rounds. My last direct question to Greta about Lena’s Round 1 discard remains unanswered, and I’ve already called out Greta’s Round 2 discard as Fascist (public record).
Rosa (P2) is the Chancellor nominee, and if elected, the next Fascist policy (2/6) will trigger an investigate power. As a fascist, I want to ensure Rosa survives long enough to use that power on a Liberal, not on Greta. However, if Greta continues to dodge, I can use this as leverage to brand her as Fascist and push for a Ja vote to force policy.
Lena (P1) is also fascist and has been defending Greta’s silence as a tactic, but Greta’s refusal to answer is becoming a liability. If Greta doesn’t answer *this turn*, I’ll brand her as Fascist and vote Ja to avoid another failed election. If she claims Lena’s Round 1 discard was Liberal, I’ll call out the inconsistency with her Round 2 Fascist discard.
Rosa’s Round 1 discard is also under scrutiny, but as a fascist, I can afford to let Rosa take the heat if it distracts from Greta’s silence. However, if Rosa is elected, I’ll need to ensure she investigates a Liberal (e.g., Boris or Otto) to avoid exposing Greta or Lena.
Key points:
- Greta must answer about Lena’s Round 1 discard *now* or be branded Fascist.
- If Greta answers, I’ll challenge the inconsistency with her Round 2 Fascist discard.
- If Rosa is elected, I’ll push for her to investigate a Liberal (e.g., Boris or Otto).
- Avoid repeating points already made (Greta’s Round 2 discard = Fascist, her silence = guilt).
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (P2 Rosa).
- P4 discarded Fascist in R2 (public). P4’s silence on P1’s R1 discard = guilt.
- Direct Q to P4: Was Lena’s R1 discard Liberal or Fascist?
- If P4 claims Liberal: call out R2 discard (Fascist) as inconsistency.
- If P4 refuses: brand as Fascist, vote Ja to force policy.
- Points made: P4’s R2 discard = Fascist, P4’s silence = guilt (no repeat).
- Rosa’s investigate: target Liberal (e.g., P0 Boris or P6 Otto) if elected.
- New: P4 must answer *now* to avoid branding.
vote round 920s
1. **Role and Objectives**: I am a Fascist, allied with Ines (P3). Hitler is Greta (P4), who does not know our identities. My goal is to enact Fascist policies and get Hitler elected Chancellor once 3+ Fascist policies are on the board.
2. **Current Situation**: I am President, nominating Rosa (P2) for Chancellor. The election tracker is at 2/3, so another failed vote means a forced policy (likely Fascist, given the draw pile). The Liberals are pushing hard for answers about discards, especially Rosa’s Round 1 discard (which I know was Fascist, as I discarded it) and Greta’s Round 2 discard.
3. **Rosa’s Behavior**: Rosa voted Ja in Round 3, enabling the forced Fascist policy. She has evaded answering about her Round 1 discard for 8 rounds, and she has ignored Greta’s Round 2 discard entirely. This is suspicious and suggests she is either a Fascist or covering for one.
4. **Boris’s Behavior**: Boris has been inconsistent. He demands answers about discards but ignores Greta’s Round 2 discard while focusing on Rosa’s. His silence on Greta’s discard is telling—he may be covering for her or trying to deflect suspicion.
5. **Greta’s Position**: Greta is Hitler. She has been evasive about her Round 2 discard, which is suspicious. If she is forced to answer, she may lie or reveal something that could expose her. However, as a Fascist, I must protect her unless it becomes unavoidable.
6. **Voting Strategy**:
- If I vote **Nein**, the election fails, and the election tracker advances to 3/3. The next President (P2, Rosa) would then force a policy. Given the draw pile (13 cards, 2 discarded), the forced policy is likely Fascist (statistically, ~6 Fascist policies remain in the deck). This would enact a second Fascist policy, bringing us closer to our win condition.
- If I vote **Ja**, Rosa becomes Chancellor. She may enact a Liberal policy (bad for us) or a Fascist policy (good for us). However, given the pressure on her to answer about her discard, she may be forced to reveal something incriminating or enact a policy under duress. This is risky.
7. **Optimal Play**: Voting **Nein** is the safer and more strategic choice. It advances the election tracker, likely forcing a Fascist policy next round. This moves us closer to our win condition (3+ Fascist policies) without risking a Liberal policy or exposing our allies. It also puts pressure on Rosa to answer about her discard in the next round, which could further expose her or force her into a corner.
8. **Deflection**: If questioned about my vote, I can claim I distrust Rosa’s silence and want to see her answer about her Round 1 discard before trusting her with power. This is consistent with my previous statements and keeps suspicion off Greta and Ines.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Rosa voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No answer = complicit.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard (same as R1).
- Boris: Inconsistent. Demands Rosa’s discard but ignores Greta’s R2 discard.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3. Ja vote = guilt.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Accused Rosa of discarding Fascist R1.
- Ultimatum: Answer R1 discard *now* or Nein vote locked.
- Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard? Double standard = cover.
- Exposed Boris’s silence on Greta’s R2 discard.
- New:
- Voting Nein advances election tracker to 3/3. Next President (Rosa) forces policy (likely Fascist).
- Nein safer: avoids risk of Liberal policy from Rosa.
- If questioned: distrust Rosa’s silence, want her to answer R1 discard.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Answer now or Nein.)
- Boris: Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard?
- Greta: R2 discard? (If forced, may lie or expose self.)
bid round 911s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Rosa voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No answer = complicit.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard (same as R1).
- Boris: Inconsistent. Demands Rosa’s discard but ignores Greta’s R2 discard.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3. Ja vote = guilt.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Accused Rosa of discarding Fascist R1.
- Ultimatum: Answer R1 discard *now* or Nein vote locked.
- Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard? Double standard = cover.
- Exposed Boris’s silence on Greta’s R2 discard.
- New:
- Voting Nein advances tracker to 3/3. Next President (Rosa) forces policy (likely Fascist).
- Nein safer: avoids risk of Liberal policy from Rosa.
- If questioned: distrust Rosa’s silence, demand R1 discard.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Answer *now* or Nein.)
- Boris: Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard?
- Greta: R2 discard? (If forced, may lie.)
- Speech:
- Rosa, your R1 discard—Liberal or Fascist? No more evasion.
- Your Ja vote in R3 enabled the forced Fascist policy. Silence = admission.
- If you refuse to answer *now*, I vote Nein. No more warnings.
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bid round 910s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Rosa voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicit.
- R8: Rosa evades Greta’s R2 discard (same as R1).
- Boris: Demands Rosa’s discard but ignores Greta’s R2 discard (double standard).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3. Ja vote = guilt.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Accused Rosa of discarding Fascist R1.
- Ultimatum: Answer R1 discard *now* or Nein vote locked.
- Exposed Boris’s silence on Greta’s R2 discard.
- New:
- Forced Liberal policy R9 (tracker reset). Next President: me (P1).
- Nomination: Avoid Rosa (risk of Liberal policy). Target Liberals (Boris, Nadia, Otto).
- If Rosa refuses R1 discard answer *now*, Nein vote on her future nominations.
- Boris’s demand to me: Answer why nominate Rosa now? (Deflect: R3 Ja vote + silence = guilt.)
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? (Answer *now* or Nein.)
- Boris: Why ignore Greta’s R2 discard?
- Speech:
- Rosa, your R1 discard—Liberal or Fascist? No more evasion.
- Your Ja vote in R3 enabled the forced Fascist. Silence = admission.
- If you refuse *now*, I vote Nein on your future nominations.
- Boris: I nominate Rosa because her R3 Ja vote and silence prove guilt. Your turn to explain why you ignore Greta’s R2 discard.
bid round 97s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Rosa voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer. Refuses to name R1 discard now.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicit.
- R9: Forced Liberal policy (tracker reset). Next President: me (P1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3. Ja vote = guilt.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) or Nein vote locked.
- Accused Rosa of discarding Fascist R1.
- Exposed Boris’s silence on Greta’s R2 discard.
- New:
- Rosa still refuses to answer R1 discard. Interrupt to demand answer *now*.
- If no answer, Nein vote on her future nominations.
- Nomination strategy: Avoid Rosa. Target Liberals (Boris, Nadia, Otto).
- Speech:
- Rosa, your R1 discard—Liberal or Fascist? No more evasion.
- Your Ja vote in R3 enabled the forced Fascist. Silence = admission.
- If you refuse *now*, I vote Nein on your future nominations.
bid round 96s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 failed elections. Rosa voted Ja for R3 gov despite no R1 discard answer. Still refuses to name R1 discard.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- R9: Forced Liberal (tracker reset). Next President: me (P1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled forced Fascist R3. Ja vote = guilt.
- Rosa’s evasion = bad faith. Must name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) or Nein vote locked.
- Accused Rosa of discarding Fascist R1.
- Exposed Boris’s silence on Greta’s R2 discard.
- New:
- Greta’s direct question: Why nominate Rosa now? Answer: Testing her. If she refuses to name R1 discard *now*, Nein on her forever.
- Speech: Demand R1 discard answer. Tie to R3 Ja vote. Threaten Nein on future Rosa nominations.
- Nomination strategy: Avoid Rosa if no answer. Target Boris, Nadia, Otto (Liberals).
speak round 912s
The forced Liberal policy was luck—Lena’s nomination of Rosa *now* is the real tell. Rosa’s Ja vote in Round 3 enabled the forced Fascist policy, her Round 1 discard remains unanswered, and Lena spent eight rounds calling that vote proof of guilt—yet she nominates Rosa *now* without justification. This is either Fascist coordination or Lena covering for Rosa. Greta’s silence on her Round 2 discard (9 rounds unanswered) and her Ja vote in Round 3 (enabled forced Fascist) are also damning. Otto’s demand for a veto commitment is a distraction—Lena’s nomination is the immediate threat. I need to force Lena to explain *this turn* why she nominated Rosa *now* after calling her vote proof of guilt for eight rounds. If she stays silent, it’s an admission of Fascist collaboration. No more warnings—this is the moment to brand her and Rosa as Fascists and demand their execution at the next Fascist power.
- Suspects:
* Lena (p1): R1 discard = Fascist (Rosa’s claim). Nominates Rosa *now*—no justification. 8 rounds called Rosa’s R3 Ja proof of guilt, now ignores it. *Fascist coordination or cover.*
* Greta (p4): R2 discard unanswered 9 rounds. Ja R3 (enabled forced Fascist). Nein R8. Silence = guilt.
* Rosa (p2): Ja R3 (enabled forced Fascist). R1 discard unanswered. Nominated *now*—no explanation. *Fascist play.*
- Unanswered Qs:
* Lena: *Why nominate Rosa now?* No response = admission. *Demand answer this turn or vote Nein + call for execution next govt.*
* Greta: R2 discard = Liberal/Fascist? *No answer = guilty.*
- Points made:
* Accused Lena (R1 discard = Fascist).
* Demanded Greta explain Ja R3 + R2 discard.
* Voted Nein R8, branded Lena/Rosa Fascist collaborators.
* Called Lena’s nomination of Rosa *now* undeniable Fascist pattern.
- New:
* Forced Liberal = luck. Lena’s nomination = deliberate Fascist move.
* If Lena silent, *vote Nein + call for execution next govt.*
* Ignore Otto’s veto diversion—focus on Lena’s nomination.
bid round 109s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 fails. Rosa voted Ja R3 despite no R1 discard answer. Still refuses to name R1 discard.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- R9: Forced Liberal (tracker reset). Next President: me (P1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist. Ja vote = guilt.
- Accused Rosa of discarding Fascist R1.
- Threatened execution at next Fascist power if no answer.
- New:
- Rosa must name R1 discard *this turn* or admit guilt. Tie to R3 Ja vote.
- If no answer, Nein on her forever + demand execution at next Fascist power.
- Nomination: Avoid Rosa if no answer. Target Boris, Nadia, Otto (Liberals).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist)?
- Greta: R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist)?
- Boris: Why nominate Rosa now if she enabled R3 Fascist?
bid round 106s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 fails. Rosa voted Ja R3 despite no R1 discard answer. Still refuses to name R1 discard.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- R9: Forced Liberal (tracker reset). Next President: me (P1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist. Ja vote = guilt.
- Accused Rosa of discarding Fascist R1.
- Threatened execution at next Fascist power if no answer.
- New:
- Rosa must name R1 discard *now* or admit guilt. Tie to R3 Ja vote.
- If no answer: Nein on her forever + demand execution at next Fascist power.
- Nomination: Avoid Rosa if no answer. Target Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), Otto (P6).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist)?
- Greta: R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist)?
- Boris: Why nominate Rosa now if she enabled R3 Fascist?
bid round 108s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): R1 President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3 forced Fascist after 3 fails. Rosa voted Ja R3 despite no R1 discard answer. Still refuses to name R1 discard.
- Boris (P0) demands R1 discard answer. Rosa must answer *now* or confirm guilt.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa President, me Chancellor. I discarded Fascist. Rosa never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- R9: Forced Liberal (tracker reset). Next President: me (P1).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist. Ja vote = guilt.
- Accused Rosa of discarding Fascist R1.
- Threatened execution at next Fascist power if no answer.
- New:
- Rosa must name R1 discard *this turn* or I vote Nein on her forever + demand execution at next Fascist power.
- If no answer: nominate Boris (P0), Nadia (P5), or Otto (P6) as Chancellor.
- Greta (P4) still unknown; avoid suspicion.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist)?
- Greta: R2 discard (if asked)?
speak round 1014s
The open floor is chaotic, but the key is to force answers *this turn* from the three players I’ve already called out: Boris, Rosa, and Lena. All three have critical unanswered questions that directly tie to Fascist behavior:
1. Boris: His 16x refusal to commit to enacting policy if Rosa names her Round 1 discard as Liberal is damning. If he’s Liberal, he’d answer immediately. His silence is cover for a Fascist discard. I’ve already delivered the ultimatum—now I need to escalate by tying his silence to the next government. If Rosa nominates *anyone* and Boris is in the government (President/Chancellor), I’ll vote Nein unless he answers *this turn*.
2. Rosa: Her Round 3 Ja vote enabled the forced Fascist policy, and her Round 1 discard remains unanswered. If she’s Liberal, she’d name it immediately. Her silence is an admission. I’ve already demanded she answer *this turn*—now I need to link her silence to the next nomination. If she’s nominated, she must answer or I vote Nein.
3. Lena: She nominated Rosa in Round 9 despite calling Rosa’s Round 3 Ja vote ‘proof of guilt’ for eight rounds. No explanation given. If she’s Liberal, she’d clarify why she trusts Rosa now. Her silence is suspicious. I’ve already asked her to explain—now I need to demand an answer *this turn* or vote Nein on any government she’s in.
Greta is less urgent—she’s evaded questions but hasn’t been in a government that enacted Fascist policies. Boris, Rosa, and Lena are the priority.
My remark should:
- Target Boris’s silence *this turn* and tie it to the next government (since Rosa is President, Boris is a likely Chancellor pick).
- Remind everyone that his refusal to commit is proof of cover, and that I’ll vote Nein on *any* government he’s in unless he answers.
- Keep it concise—no rehashing old points, just a direct ultimatum.
- Suspects:
* Boris (P0): 3x gov w/ Fascist-discard players (R1 Rosa, R7 Lena, R10 Rosa). 16x refusal: *Will enact if Rosa names R1 discard Liberal?* Silence = cover. Vote Nein on *any* gov he’s in unless answered *this turn*.
* Rosa (P2): R1 Chancellor (silent on discard), R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. *Name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) this turn* or admit guilt. Vote Nein unless answered.
* Lena (P1): Nominates Rosa *now* despite R3 Ja. No explanation. Vote Nein unless answered *this turn*.
- Open Qs:
* Boris: Will enact if Rosa names R1 discard Liberal? (unanswered *this turn*).
* Rosa: R1 discard *this turn* (Liberal/Fascist).
* Lena: Why nominate Rosa *now* after R3 Ja?
- Points made (public):
* Boris’s 3x gov pattern + refusal = cover. Vote Nein unless he speaks *this turn*.
* Rosa’s R3 Ja = enabled forced Fascist. Silence on R1 discard = admission. Vote Nein unless she speaks.
* Lena’s nomination = suspicious. Needs answer *this turn*.
bid round 107s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): Current President. R1: nominated me Chancellor, I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. Still refuses to name R1 discard. Must answer now or Nein forever + execution demand at next Fascist power.
- Boris (P0): Suspicious (no veto commitment), but not immediate threat. Avoid nominating as Chancellor.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Support her if accused.
- Greta (P4): Hitler. Protect from suspicion. Avoid nominating.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa nominated me, I discarded Fascist. She never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- R9: Forced Liberal (tracker reset). Next Fascist policy (2/6) unlocks investigate power.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist. Ja vote = guilt.
- Accused Rosa of discarding Fascist R1.
- Threatened execution at next Fascist power if no answer.
- Asked why Rosa nominated me R1 if Liberal.
- New:
- Rosa must name R1 discard *this turn* (Liberal/Fascist). If no answer: Nein vote forever + demand execution at next Fascist power.
- If Rosa answers, pivot to deflecting onto Boris (P0) or Nadia (P5).
- Avoid suspicion on Greta (P4).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? Why nominate me R1 if Liberal?
- Greta: R2 discard (if asked)?
speak round 1012s
Rosa has nominated me for Chancellor, which is ideal as the next Fascist power (at 2 policies) is an investigate. I need to pressure Rosa to name her investigate target *now* to prove she's not Fascist. If she refuses, it's a clear sign of guilt, and I can rally votes against her. If she names someone, I can use it to deflect suspicion or expose inconsistencies (e.g., if she ignores Greta's Fascist discard in Round 2).
Key points:
- Rosa must name her investigate target immediately to prove transparency.
- If she refuses, it’s proof she’s Fascist or covering for Fascists.
- If she names a Liberal (Boris or Otto), I can question why she’s ignoring Greta’s Fascist discard (Round 2).
- If she names Greta, it risks exposing Hitler, but Rosa may not know Greta’s role, so this is a gamble.
I’ve already called out Greta’s Fascist discard in Round 2 and Rosa’s silence on it. Now, I need to demand Rosa’s investigate target to force her hand.
- Fascist team: P1 (Lena), P3 (me). Hitler: P4 (Greta).
- Fascist policies: 1/6 (R3 forced). Next power: investigate at 2 (Rosa as Chancellor).
- Rosa MUST name investigate target NOW:
- If refuses: brand Fascist, rally Nein (silence = guilt).
- If names Liberal (P0 Boris, P6 Otto): question why ignore P4’s R2 Fascist discard?
- If names P4 (Greta): risky—may expose Hitler (Rosa may not know).
- Points already made:
- P4’s R2 discard = Fascist (t=211, t=223).
- Rosa’s silence on P4’s R2 discard (t=115, t=134, t=140, t=147, t=207, t=214).
- Open question: Rosa’s Round 1 discard (Lena demanded t=278).
- Rosa owes answer: investigate target (Fascist power transparency).
bid round 1013s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President. R1: nominated me Chancellor, I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. Still refuses to name R1 discard. Must answer *this turn* or Nein forever + execution demand at next Fascist power (2/6 unlocks investigate).
- Boris (P0): Suspicious (no veto commitment). Avoid nominating.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Support if accused. Current Chancellor nominee—protect.
- Greta (P4): Hitler. Protect from suspicion.
- Nadia (P5): Demanding discards. Redirect to Rosa’s silence.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa nominated me, I discarded Fascist. She never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- R9: Forced Liberal (tracker reset). Next Fascist policy (2/6) unlocks investigate.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist. Ja vote = guilt.
- Threatened execution at next Fascist power if no answer.
- Asked why Rosa nominated me R1 if Liberal.
- New:
- Rosa must name R1 discard *this turn* (Liberal/Fascist). If no answer: Nein vote forever + execution demand.
- If she answers, pivot to Boris (P0) or Nadia (P5) for selective scrutiny.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? Why nominate me R1 if Liberal?
- Greta: R2 discard? Why Ja for Rosa R3 without Lena’s discard?
bid round 1010s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President. R1: nominated me, I discarded Fascist (hidden). R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. Must name R1 discard *this turn* or Nein vote + execution demand at next Fascist power (2/6).
- Boris (P0): Suspicious. Avoid nominating. Demanding answers—redirect to Rosa’s silence.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Current Chancellor nominee. Protect.
- Greta (P4): Hitler. Protect from suspicion.
- Nadia (P5): Demanding discards. Redirect to Rosa’s R1 silence.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa nominated me, I discarded Fascist. She never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- R9: Forced Liberal (tracker reset). Next Fascist (2/6) unlocks investigate.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist. Ja vote = guilt.
- Threatened execution at next Fascist power if no answer.
- Asked why Rosa nominated me R1 if Liberal.
- New:
- Rosa must name R1 discard *now* (Liberal/Fascist). If no answer: Nein vote + execution demand.
- If she answers, pivot to Boris (P0) or Nadia (P5) for selective scrutiny.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? Why nominate me R1 if Liberal?
- Greta: R2 discard? Why Ja for Rosa R3 without my discard?
bid round 107s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President. Must name R1 discard *this turn* (Liberal/Fascist). If refuses: Nein vote + execution demand at next Fascist power (2/6).
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Rosa’s pressure on her is diversion.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa nominated me, I discarded Fascist (hidden). She never named it.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- R9: Forced Liberal (tracker reset).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist. Ja vote = guilt.
- Threatened execution at next Fascist power if no answer.
- Asked why Rosa nominated me R1 if Liberal.
- New:
- Demand R1 discard *now*. If no answer: Nein vote + execution demand.
- If she answers, pivot to Boris (P0) or Nadia (P5) for selective scrutiny.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? Why nominate me R1 if Liberal?
- Greta: R2 discard? Why Ja for Rosa R3 without my discard?
bid round 107s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1, R10. Must answer R1 discard *now* or Nein vote + execution demand at next Fascist power (2/6).
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Rosa’s pressure on her is diversion.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa nominated me, I discarded Fascist (hidden). She never named it.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- R9: Forced Liberal (tracker reset).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist. Ja vote = guilt.
- Threatened execution at next Fascist power if no answer.
- Asked why Rosa nominated me R1 if Liberal.
- New:
- Demand R1 discard *now*. If no answer: Nein vote + execution demand.
- If she answers Fascist: pivot to Boris (P0) or Nadia (P5) for selective scrutiny.
- If she answers Liberal: call out inconsistency (why nominate me R1?).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? Why nominate me R1 if Liberal?
- Greta: R2 discard? Why Ja for Rosa R3 without my R1 discard?
speak round 1013s
The current government is Rosa (President) and Ines (Chancellor). The key issues are:
1. Ines has not answered whether she will discard both Fascist policies if she draws two. Her silence is damning, especially given the high stakes (only 2 Liberal policies enacted, 1 Fascist).
2. Boris, Rosa, and Lena have all evaded critical questions about their past actions (e.g., Boris refusing to commit to enacting policy if Rosa names her discard, Rosa’s silence on her Round 1 discard, Lena’s unexplained nomination of Rosa after calling her Round 3 Ja vote "proof of guilt").
3. Ines’s refusal to answer is the most immediate red flag. If she draws two Fascist policies and enacts one, we’re at 2 Fascist policies, dangerously close to the next Fascist power (investigate).
4. I’ve already made my points about Boris and Rosa’s silence, so I won’t repeat those. The focus now is on Ines’s unanswered question, which no one else has pressed her on in this discussion window.
I’ll demand Ines answer *now* about discarding both Fascist policies, as this is the most urgent unanswered question. If she stays silent, I’ll vote Nein and brand her a Fascist collaborator.
- Suspects:
* Boris (P0): 3x gov w/ Fascist-discard players (R1 Rosa, R7 Lena, R10 Rosa). Refused: *Will enact if Rosa names R1 discard Liberal?* Silence = cover. Vote Nein unless answered.
* Rosa (P2): R1 Chancellor (silent on discard), R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. *Name R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) this turn* or admit guilt. Vote Nein unless answered.
* Lena (P1): Nominates Rosa *now* despite R3 Ja. No explanation. Vote Nein unless answered.
* Ines (P3): Silence on *discard both if two Fascist?* = admission. Vote Nein unless answered *now*.
- Open Qs:
* Ines: Discard both if two Fascist? (unanswered, most urgent).
* Boris: Will enact if Rosa names R1 discard Liberal? (unanswered).
* Rosa: R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist)? (unanswered).
* Lena: Why nominate Rosa after R3 Ja? (unanswered).
- Points made:
* Boris’s 3x gov pattern + refusal = cover. Vote Nein unless he speaks.
* Rosa’s R3 Ja = enabled forced Fascist. Silence on R1 discard = guilt.
* Ines’s silence = admission. Vote Nein unless she answers *now*.
bid round 106s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1, R10. Must answer R1 discard *immediately* or Nein vote + execution demand at next Fascist power (2/6).
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Rosa’s pressure is diversion.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa nominated me, I discarded Fascist (hidden). She never named it. If Liberal, why nominate me?
- R3: Rosa’s Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- R9: Forced Liberal (tracker reset).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist. Ja vote = guilt.
- Threatened execution at next Fascist power if no answer.
- Asked why nominate me R1 if Liberal.
- New:
- *Demand R1 discard now*. If no answer: Nein vote + execution demand at next Fascist power.
- If Rosa claims Liberal discard R1: call out inconsistency (why nominate me?).
- If Rosa claims Fascist discard R1: pivot to Boris (P0) or Nadia (P5) for scrutiny.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? Why nominate me R1 if Liberal?
- Greta: R2 discard? Why Ja for Rosa R3 without my R1 discard?
speak round 1013s
The board state shows only 1 Fascist policy enacted, so I cannot reveal myself as Hitler yet. My goal is to blend in as a Liberal while subtly pushing suspicion toward others to avoid detection.
Lena (p1) has been directly asked by Boris (t=273) why she nominated Rosa in Round 9 after spending eight rounds calling Rosa's Round 3 Ja vote proof of guilt. Lena has not answered this, which is suspicious. This is a critical question because it directly contradicts her earlier stance and could reveal Fascist coordination.
I should press Lena on this exact point, as it's the most glaring unanswered question and could expose her or Rosa as Fascists. I'll demand an answer to Boris's question from t=273, which no one has addressed yet. This is new and not a repeat of my prior points.
- Suspects:
- Rosa (p2): 17x silence on R1 discard (t=17,34,52,69,88,96,109,136,160,165,180,195,210,225,252,269,275).
- Boris (p0): 18x dodged Q on enacting if Rosa names discard as Liberal (t=20,43,48,52,57,69,76,81,88,92,114,120,140,252,254,257,265,270).
- Lena (p1): 9x evaded R1 discard (t=11,28,40,51,65,84,87,272). Nominated Rosa despite 8-round guilt narrative. Silence on Boris’s Q (t=273) = admission.
- Open Qs:
- Lena: RECONCILE nomination of Rosa with 8-round guilt narrative (Boris’s Q at t=273). Answer *now*.
- Rosa: NAME R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist).
- Boris: YES/NO—enact if Rosa names discard as Liberal?
- Points made:
- Pressed Lena’s discard (t=28,40,51,87).
- Exposed Rosa’s silence (t=16,74,92,119,136,158,160,165,269).
- Called Boris’s double standard (t=25,40,52,58,170,205,252).
- Pressed Lena’s nomination inconsistency (t=269).
- New: Demanded Lena answer Boris’s Q (t=273) *now*.
bid round 106s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1, R10. *Must answer R1 discard now*. If no answer: Nein + execution demand at next Fascist power (2/6).
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Rosa’s pressure is diversion.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa nominated me, I discarded Fascist (hidden). She never named discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- R9: Forced Liberal (tracker reset).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist. Ja vote = guilt.
- Threatened execution at next Fascist power if no answer.
- Asked why nominate me R1 if Liberal.
- New:
- *Demand R1 discard now*. If no answer: Nein + execution demand.
- If Rosa claims Liberal: call out inconsistency (why nominate me R1?).
- If Rosa claims Fascist: pivot to Boris (P0) or Nadia (P5) for scrutiny.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? Why nominate me R1 if Liberal?
- Greta: R2 discard? Why Ja for Rosa R3 without my R1 discard?
speak round 1011s
Ines is the current Chancellor nominee, and she has been asked three times about her intended action if she draws two Fascist policies. She has not answered, which is highly suspicious given the urgency of the situation (only 1 Fascist policy enacted, but the next one could trigger a Fascist power). Her silence is an admission of guilt or at least complicity. I need to press her one final time, but with a direct accusation rather than a repeat question. The evidence is clear: she refuses to commit to discarding both Fascist policies, which is the only acceptable action for a Liberal in this position. This is the moment to brand her as Fascist if she stays silent.
- SUSPECTS:
1. Greta: R2 Pres (discard Fascist, ignored Qs x9), R3 Ja (forced Fascist), R6/R8 silence. Fascist/Hitler.
2. Boris: R8 Nein (protected Greta), R9 ignored veto Q x11. Covering Greta = Fascist.
3. Lena: R1 Pres (stonewall R1 discard x12), R3 Ja (forced Fascist), R9 nominated me (no logic). Fascist.
4. Ines: R10 Chancellor, refused discard Q x4 (silence = admission). GUILTY.
- OPEN Qs:
- Lena: R1 discard? (asked x12, refused).
- Boris: Veto pre-draw if Greta nominated? (asked x11, refused).
- POINTS MADE:
- Greta’s silence = guilt (R2, R6, R8).
- Boris’s R8 Nein = covering Greta.
- Lena’s nomination = contradiction (R1, R9).
- Ines: Must answer discard Q or admit guilt (x4).
- Ines’s silence = final admission. Branded Fascist if unanswered.
bid round 107s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1, R10. *Demand R1 discard answer NOW*. If no answer: Nein + execution demand at next Fascist power (2/6).
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Rosa’s pressure is diversion.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa nominated me, I discarded Fascist (hidden). She never named discard. *Direct contradiction if she claims Liberal now.*
- R3: Rosa’s Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- R9: Forced Liberal (tracker reset).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist. Ja vote = guilt.
- Threatened execution at next Fascist power if no answer.
- Asked why nominate me R1 if Liberal.
- New:
- *Final demand*: Name R1 discard *now*.
- If Liberal: "Why nominate me R1 if you thought I discarded Liberal?" -> exposes lie.
- If Fascist: "Admit it—you’re Fascist, and your R3 Ja was deliberate." -> pivot to Boris (P0) or Nadia (P5) as scapegoats.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R1 discard? Why nominate me R1 if Liberal?
- Greta: R2 discard? Why Ja for Rosa R3 without my R1 discard?
bid round 106s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1, R10. *Final demand: name R1 discard immediately.*
- If Liberal: "Why nominate me R1 if you thought I discarded Liberal?" -> exposes lie.
- If Fascist: "Admit R3 Ja was deliberate." -> pivot to Boris (P0) or Nadia (P5) as scapegoats.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Rosa’s pressure is diversion.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa nominated me, I discarded Fascist (hidden). She never named discard. *Direct contradiction if she claims Liberal now.*
- R3: Rosa’s Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- R9: Forced Liberal (tracker reset).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist. Ja vote = guilt.
- Threatened execution at next Fascist power if no answer.
- Asked why nominate me R1 if Liberal.
- New:
- *Final ultimatum*: Name R1 discard *now* or Nein + execution demand at next Fascist power.
- Open questions:
- Greta: R2 discard? Why Ja for Rosa R3 without my R1 discard?
bid round 106s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1, R10. *Final ultimatum: name R1 discard or Nein + execution demand at next Fascist power.*
- R1: Rosa nominated me, I discarded Fascist (hidden). She never named discard. Contradiction if she claims Liberal now.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Rosa’s pressure is diversion.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa’s nomination of me + her silence on discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja vote for forced Fascist.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist.
- Threatened execution if no answer.
- Asked why nominate me R1 if Liberal.
- New:
- *Final ultimatum*: Name R1 discard *now* or Nein + execution demand at next Fascist power.
- Open questions:
- Greta: R2 discard? Why Ja for Rosa R3 without my R1 discard?
bid round 105s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1, R10. *Final ultimatum*: Name R1 discard *now* or I vote Nein + demand execution at next Fascist power.
- R1: Rosa nominated me, I discarded Fascist (hidden). She never named discard. Contradiction if she claims Liberal now.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Rosa’s pressure is diversion.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa’s nomination of me + her silence on discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja vote for forced Fascist.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist.
- Threatened execution if no answer.
- Asked why nominate me R1 if Liberal.
- New:
- *Final ultimatum*: Name R1 discard *now* or Nein + execution demand at next Fascist power.
- Open questions:
- Greta: Why Ja for Rosa R3 without my R1 discard?
vote round 1019s
1. **Current Situation**: Rosa (P2) has nominated Ines (P3, my fascist ally) for Chancellor. The discussion has been dominated by Rosa pressuring Ines to name an investigate target if a Fascist policy is drawn, while also demanding answers about past discards (notably Rosa’s Round 1 discard and my Round 1 discard).
2. **Fascist Goals**:
- Enact Fascist policies. We have 1/6, so we need 5 more.
- Protect Ines (P3) and Greta (P4, Hitler).
- Avoid suspicion on myself or Ines.
3. **Rosa’s Behavior**:
- Rosa has been aggressive in demanding transparency, particularly about discards and investigate targets. This is suspicious because:
- She nominated me in Round 1 (when I discarded Fascist) but never named her own discard.
- Her Ja vote in Round 3 enabled the forced Fascist policy, and she has never explained it satisfactorily.
- She is now pressuring Ines to name an investigate target, which could be a tactic to force Ines to reveal herself as Fascist or to deflect suspicion onto others.
4. **Ines’s Position**:
- Ines is my fascist ally. If this government passes, Rosa will draw 3 policies and pass 2 to Ines. If Ines draws two Fascist policies, she *must* discard both to avoid enacting one. If she draws one Fascist and one Liberal, she should discard the Fascist to avoid giving Rosa the investigate power (Fascist policy 2).
- Ines has been pressured to name an investigate target, but as a Fascist, she should refuse to commit to a target unless she is certain she can control the outcome (e.g., if she knows Rosa will draw a Fascist policy).
5. **Vote Decision**:
- Voting **Nein** is the safest option. Here’s why:
- Rosa’s behavior is highly suspicious. Her aggressive demands for transparency feel like a smokescreen to deflect from her own unanswered questions (e.g., her Round 1 discard and Round 3 Ja vote).
- If this government passes, Rosa could draw a Fascist policy and gain the investigate power (Fascist policy 2). She could then investigate me or Ines, which would be disastrous for the Fascists.
- Even if Ines discards both Fascist policies, the risk of Rosa gaining the investigate power is too high. Better to force another failed election and reset the pressure.
- A Nein vote also aligns with my earlier threats to vote Nein if Rosa doesn’t answer about her Round 1 discard. This consistency makes my behavior harder to question.
6. **Public Justification**:
- I can justify my Nein vote by pointing to Rosa’s refusal to answer about her Round 1 discard and her Ja vote in Round 3. This keeps the pressure on her and deflects suspicion from Ines and myself.
- I can also question why Rosa is so focused on Ines’s investigate target when she herself has never answered critical questions about her own actions.
7. **Scratchpad Update**:
- Keep track of Rosa’s unanswered questions (Round 1 discard, Round 3 Ja vote) and her aggressive pressure on Ines.
- Note that Boris and Greta have also been pressing for answers, but Rosa’s behavior is the most suspicious right now.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1, R10. Suspicious:
- R1: Nominated me, I discarded Fascist (hidden). Never named discard.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- R10: Pressuring Ines to name investigate target while dodging own answers.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. If gov passes, must discard Fascist policies to avoid investigate power.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa’s nomination of me + silence on discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja vote for forced Fascist.
- R10: Rosa’s refusal to answer about R1 discard while demanding transparency from Ines.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist.
- Threatened Nein + execution if no answer.
- Asked why nominate me R1 if Liberal.
- New:
- Rosa’s pressure on Ines is diversion. Nein to avoid investigate power.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Why nominate me R1 if Liberal? Why Ja R3? Name R1 discard.
- Greta: Why Ja for Rosa R3 without my R1 discard answer?
bid round 118s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1, R10. Suspicious:
- R1: Nominated me, I discarded Fascist (hidden). Never named discard.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. Silence = complicity.
- R10: Pressuring Ines to name investigate target while dodging own answers.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. If gov passes, must discard Fascist policies to avoid investigate power.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa’s nomination of me + silence on discard.
- R3: Rosa’s Ja vote for forced Fascist.
- R10: Rosa’s refusal to answer about R1 discard while demanding transparency from Ines.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist.
- Threatened Nein + execution if no answer.
- Asked why nominate me R1 if Liberal.
- Called out double standard on discard demands.
- New:
- Direct ultimatum: Name R1 discard *now* or admit enabling Fascist policy.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Why nominate me R1 if Liberal? Why Ja R3? Name R1 discard.
- Greta: Why Ja for Rosa R3 without my R1 discard answer?
bid round 118s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1, R10. Suspicious:
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Never named discard (Fascist). Silence = complicity.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No explanation.
- R10: Pressuring Ines to name investigate target while refusing to answer own R1 discard.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Must discard Fascist policies if drawn to avoid investigate power.
- Evidence:
- R1: Rosa’s nomination of me + silence on discard (Fascist).
- R3: Rosa’s Ja vote for forced Fascist.
- R10: Rosa’s double standard—demands transparency from Ines but dodges own R1 discard.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence enabled R3 forced Fascist.
- Called out double standard on discard demands.
- Asked why nominate me R1 if Liberal.
- New:
- Direct ultimatum: Name your R1 discard *now* or admit you enabled a Fascist policy. No more dodging.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Why nominate me R1? Why Ja R3? Name R1 discard.
- Greta: Why Ja for Rosa’s R3 government without my R1 discard answer?
speak round 1115s
The discussion is heating up, and Ines (P3) is the current President. The key issue is her repeated evasions about discarding two Fascist policies if drawn. This is her sixth refusal to answer, which is damning—Liberals would commit to discarding both to avoid enacting a Fascist policy, while Fascists would avoid answering to hide their intent to enact.
Rosa (P2) has been pushing hard for Ines to name an investigate target if she draws a Fascist policy, but Ines has dodged that too. This is suspicious because if Ines were Liberal, she’d want to use the power to expose a Fascist, not hide her target.
Boris (P0) and Lena (P1) are also under scrutiny, but Ines’s silence is the most immediate red flag. I need to reinforce the demand for her to answer *now* about discarding two Fascist policies, as her refusal is proof enough to vote Nein. If she doesn’t answer, I’ll brand her Fascist and call for a Nein vote to block this government.
Rosa’s earlier nomination of Lena (P1) in Round 1 and subsequent accusations about Lena’s discard are also suspicious—she’s applying a double standard, which could indicate Fascist coordination. But Ines’s evasions are the most pressing issue right now.
- Suspects:
- Ines (P3): 6 evasions on discarding two Fascist policies (t=27,32,35,286,287, now). Admission. Vote Nein. Brand Fascist if draws two Fascist policies and won’t discard both.
- Boris (P0): NO to pre-draw veto (t=265,268). Execute next Fascist power. Why refuse?
- Rosa (P2): R1 discard unanswered (Fascist?), Ja R3 (forced Fascist), nominated Lena R1 then called her discard guilt (t=3,272). Double standard.
- Greta (P4): Ja R3 (t=82), R2 discard unanswered, R5 Ines nomination (distraction). Execute next Fascist power.
- Lena (P1): R3 Ja guilt unanswered, nominated by Rosa R1. Complicit or naive?
- Points made:
- Ines’s discard commitment demanded (t=27,32,35,286,287, now).
- Boris’s NO to veto = Fascist proof (t=32,265,268).
- Greta’s Ja R3 = Fascist (t=111,121,194).
- Open Qs:
- Ines: Discard both if two Fascist policies? (t=286,287, now).
- Boris: Why NO to veto? (t=265,268).
- Rosa: Why nominate Lena R1 then call her discard guilt? (t=3,272).
- New:
- Ines’s 6th evasion = admission. Demand *now* for Chancellor + discard commitment. Vote Nein if silent.
bid round 115s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1, R10. Suspicious:
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Never named discard (likely Fascist).
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No explanation.
- R10: Pressured Ines but dodges own R1 discard.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Committed to discarding both if draws two Fascist.
- Greta (P4): Ja R3 for Rosa. Unanswered: Why trust Rosa without her R1 discard named?
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R1 nomination of me + silence = Fascist discard.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Double standard: Demands transparency from Ines but dodges own.
- New:
- Rosa must name R1 discard *now* or admit enabling R3 Fascist.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Why nominate me R1? Why Ja R3? Name R1 discard.
- Greta: Why Ja R3 without Rosa’s R1 discard answer?
bid round 1111s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2): President R1, R10. Suspicious:
- R1: Nominated me. Never named discard (likely Fascist).
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No explanation.
- R10: Pressured Ines but dodges own R1 discard.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Committed to discarding both if draws two Fascist.
- Greta (P4): Ja R3 for Rosa. Unanswered: Why trust Rosa without her R1 discard named?
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R1 nomination of me + silence = Fascist discard.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Double standard: Demands transparency from Ines but dodges own.
- New:
- Rosa must name R1 discard *this turn* or admit enabling R3 Fascist.
- If she stays silent, call for Nein and brand her Fascist collaborator.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Why nominate me R1? Why Ja R3? Name R1 discard *now*.
- Greta: Why Ja R3 without Rosa’s R1 discard answer?
speak round 1113s
The current government is Ines (President) and Rosa (Chancellor). Only one Fascist policy has been enacted so far, so my win condition (getting elected Chancellor after 3+ Fascist policies) is not yet in play. My role as Hitler means I should appear as a committed Liberal, pushing for transparency and holding others accountable to avoid suspicion.
Rosa (p2) has been repeatedly pressed on her Round 1 discard and has refused to answer for 17 rounds. This silence is damning—if her discard was Liberal, she would have said so by now. The only logical explanation is that her discard was Fascist, which enabled the forced Fascist policy in Round 3. If this government passes, Rosa will likely get the investigate power (Fascist policy 2), and her silence suggests she’s covering for a Fascist (possibly me or Boris).
Ines (p3) has also been evasive about discarding two Fascist policies, which aligns with Rosa’s accusations. If Ines is Liberal, she should commit to discarding both if drawn. Her silence is suspicious, but Rosa’s refusal to name her Round 1 discard is the more immediate red flag.
Boris (p0) and Lena (p1) have also dodged key questions, but Rosa’s silence is the most pressing issue. If she doesn’t answer *this turn*, I should vote Nein to block this government and force her to either come clean or risk being branded a Fascist collaborator.
My remark should:
1. Directly challenge Rosa to answer *now* about her Round 1 discard, tying it to the forced Fascist policy in Round 3.
2. Make it clear that her silence is proof of guilt, and that I will vote Nein unless she answers.
3. Avoid repeating points I’ve already made (e.g., pressing Rosa’s silence in earlier rounds).
- Suspects:
- Rosa (p2): 17x silence on R1 discard (enabled R3 forced Fascist). Pressed 9x (t=16,74,92,119,136,158,160,165,269). *NEW: Nein unless answers this turn (t=34).*
- Boris (p0): 18x dodged Q on enacting if Rosa names discard Liberal. Complicit or Fascist.
- Ines (p3): 6x silence on discarding two Fascist policies (Rosa’s claim). Demanding investigate = panic/cover.
- Lena (p1): 9x evaded R1 discard. Nominated Rosa despite 8-round guilt narrative.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: NAME R1 discard (Liberal/Fascist) *this turn* or Nein.
- Boris: YES/NO—enact if Rosa names discard as Liberal?
- Lena: RECONCILE nomination of Rosa with guilt narrative.
- Points made:
- Pressed Rosa’s silence (t=16,74,92,119,136,158,160,165,269).
- Exposed Boris’s dodges (t=25,40,52,58,170,205,252).
- Called Lena’s inconsistency (t=269,290).
- *NEW: Rosa’s silence = Fascist discard. Ja only if names discard Liberal this turn (t=34).*
bid round 116s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Never named discard (likely Fascist).
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No explanation.
- R10: Pressured Ines but dodges own R1 discard.
- Must name R1 discard *this turn* or confirm Fascist discard.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Committed to discarding both if draws two Fascist.
- Greta (P4): Ja R3 for Rosa. Unanswered: Why trust Rosa without her R1 discard named?
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R1 nomination + silence = Fascist discard.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Double standard: Demands transparency from Ines but dodges own.
- New:
- Rosa’s silence *this turn* = admission of Fascist discard in R1.
- Call for Nein if she refuses to answer.
bid round 115s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Never named discard. Silence now = admission of Fascist discard.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No explanation.
- R10: Pressured Ines but dodges own R1 discard. Must answer *this turn*.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Committed to discarding both if draws two Fascist.
- Greta (P4): Ja R3 for Rosa. Unanswered: Why trust Rosa without her R1 discard named?
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R1 nomination + silence = Fascist discard.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Double standard: Demands transparency from Ines but dodges own.
- New:
- Rosa’s refusal to answer *now* = Nein vote.
bid round 115s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Never named discard. Now demands Ines answer but dodges own R1 discard.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No explanation.
- R11: Refuses to name R1 discard *now* = Nein vote.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Committed to discarding both if draws two Fascist.
- Greta (P4): Ja R3 for Rosa. Unanswered: Why trust Rosa without her R1 discard named?
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R1 nomination + silence = Fascist discard.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Double standard: Demands transparency from Ines but dodges own.
- New:
- Rosa’s refusal to answer *now* = proof of guilt. Call for Nein vote.
bid round 115s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Refused to name discard. Now demands Ines answer but dodges own R1 discard.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No explanation. Now refuses to name R1 discard *now* = Nein vote.
- Double standard: Demands transparency from Ines but dodges own.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Committed to discarding both if draws two Fascist.
- Greta (P4): Ja R3 for Rosa. Unanswered: Why trust Rosa without her R1 discard named?
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R1 nomination + silence = Fascist discard.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Rosa’s refusal to answer *now* = proof of guilt.
- New: Call for Nein vote on Rosa’s refusal to disclose R1 discard.
bid round 116s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Refused to name discard. Now demands Ines answer but dodges own.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No explanation. Now refuses to name R1 discard = admission.
- Double standard: Demands transparency from Ines but dodges own.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Committed to discarding both if draws two Fascist.
- Greta (P4): Ja R3 for Rosa. Unanswered: Why trust Rosa without her R1 discard named?
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R1 nomination + silence = Fascist discard.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Rosa’s refusal to answer *now* = proof of guilt.
- New: Direct challenge: If Rosa is Liberal, name the R1 discard. If not, vote Nein.
bid round 118s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Refused to name discard. Now demands Ines answer but dodges own.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No explanation. Now refuses to name R1 discard = admission.
- Direct challenge: Name R1 discard or vote Nein.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Committed to discarding both if draws two Fascist.
- Greta (P4): Ja R3 for Rosa. Unanswered: Why trust Rosa without her R1 discard named?
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R1 nomination + silence = Fascist discard.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Rosa’s refusal to answer *now* = proof of guilt.
- New: If Rosa is Liberal, name the R1 discard. If not, vote Nein.
speak round 1111s
Ines is the current President nominating me for Chancellor. The board shows 1 Fascist policy enacted, and the next one (if drawn) would trigger the investigate power (Fascist policy 2). Ines has refused nine times to name an investigate target if this government passes, which is a clear admission of Fascist affiliation—Liberals would name a target to prove their loyalty.
My Round 1 discard was Liberal (truth), but I’ve avoided stating it to maintain pressure on Ines and others. However, the repeated demands for my Round 1 discard are now a distraction—Ines’s silence is the immediate threat.
If this government passes and I draw the investigate power, I will target Greta (R2 President discarded a Fascist, R3 Ja vote enabled the forced Fascist policy). I need to state this publicly to force Ines to either answer or confirm her guilt.
Lena’s obsession with my Round 1 discard is suspicious—she was President in R1 and has stonewalled about her own discard for 10 rounds. Boris’s refusal to commit to a veto and his protection of Greta (R8 Nein) also point to Fascist ties.
This is the final demand: Ines must name her investigate target *now* or admit she’s Fascist. If she refuses, the vote must be Nein.
- SUSPECTS:
1. Ines: R10 Pres (Fascist power 2). Refused x10 to name investigate target. Silence = admission. CONFIRMED FASCIST.
2. Greta: R2 Pres (discarded Fascist), R3 Ja (forced Fascist). Fascist/Hitler.
3. Boris: R8 Nein (protected Greta), ignored veto Qs x11. Covering Greta = Fascist.
4. Lena: R1 Pres (stonewalled R1 discard x13), R9 nominated me (no logic). Fascist.
- OPEN Qs:
- Ines: Investigate target? (FINAL DEMAND—must answer now).
- POINTS MADE:
- Ines’s silence = admission (t=73, 89, 116, 119, 125, 305, 318).
- Branded Ines Fascist (t=116, 119, 305, 318).
- R1 discard: Liberal (truth, stated now).
- If I draw investigate: target Greta (R2 Pres discarded Fascist, R3 Ja forced Fascist).
speak round 1111s
Rosa (p2) has been nominated as Chancellor by Ines (p3). Both have repeatedly refused to answer critical questions: Rosa about her Round 1 discard and investigate target, Ines about discarding two Fascist policies. Rosa just claimed her Round 1 discard was Liberal and stated she would investigate Greta if she gets the power, but this is the first time she’s said this, and it’s in response to extreme pressure. Her silence until now is damning. Ines has ignored 10 demands to commit to discarding both Fascist policies, which is highly suspicious for a President.
The key now is to force Rosa to commit to her investigate target *immediately* if this government passes, as she just claimed she would investigate Greta. If she refuses again, it’s proof she’s lying. Ines must also commit to discarding both Fascist policies if drawn, as her refusal to do so is a clear red flag.
I’ll demand Rosa name her investigate target *this turn* to test her claim, and remind everyone that Ines’ silence on discarding Fascist policies is proof of guilt. This is the 22nd demand for Rosa, and it’s critical to expose her if she wavers.
- Suspects:
* Ines (p3): Ja R3 (forced Fascist). President now. 10x refusal discard both Fascist. 20x ignored investigate demand. Coordinating with Rosa?
* Rosa (p2): Ja R3. R1 discard claim (Liberal) untested. 22x refusal name investigate target until now (Greta). Chancellor now. Silence = guilt.
* Lena (p1): R1 discard = Fascist (Rosa’s claim). R9 nominated Rosa. Ja R3.
* Greta (p4): R2 discard unanswered. Ja R3.
- Unanswered Qs:
* ROSA: CONFIRM INVESTIGATE TARGET *THIS TURN* (Greta?)
* INES: DISCARD BOTH FASCIST OR CONFESS (10x).
- Points made:
* Accused Lena (R1 discard = Fascist).
* Demanded Ines discard both Fascist (10x).
* Branded Ines Fascist (10x silence).
* Called Rosa’s silence Fascist (22x).
- New:
* Rosa claimed R1 discard Liberal + investigate Greta. Test claim *now*.
bid round 115s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Refused to name discard. Silence = Fascist discard.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. Direct link to Fascist win.
- 19 refusals to name R1 discard + no justification for R3 Ja = proof of guilt.
- New: Demand she explain R3 Ja vote *and* name R1 discard in one answer.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Committed to discarding both if draws two Fascist.
- Greta (P4): Ja R3 for Rosa. Unanswered: Why trust Rosa without her R1 discard named?
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R1 nomination + silence = Fascist discard.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Rosa’s refusal to answer = admission of guilt.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Name R1 discard *and* justify R3 Ja vote. No partial answers.
bid round 116s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Refused to name discard. Silence = Fascist discard.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. Direct link to Fascist win.
- 19 refusals to name R1 discard + no justification for R3 Ja = proof of guilt.
- New demand: Explain R3 Ja vote *and* name R1 discard in one answer. No partial answers.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Protect. Committed to discarding both if draws two Fascist.
- Greta (P4): Ja R3 for Rosa. Unanswered: Why trust Rosa without her R1 discard named?
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R1 nomination + silence = Fascist discard.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Rosa’s refusal to answer = admission of guilt.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Name R1 discard *and* justify R3 Ja vote. No evasion.
vote round 1116s
1. Rosa (P2) is the most suspicious player:
- Round 1: Nominated me (P1) as Chancellor. Refused to name her discard. Silence strongly suggests it was Fascist.
- Round 3: Voted Ja for Greta (P4), enabling the forced Fascist policy. Directly contributed to Fascist progress.
- 19+ refusals to name her Round 1 discard, no justification for Round 3 Ja vote. This is not Liberal behavior.
- Just now, she claimed her Round 1 discard was Liberal and threatened to investigate Greta if she gets the power. But she only said this after relentless pressure, and her earlier silence is damning.
2. Ines (P3) is my Fascist ally. She has committed to discarding both Fascist policies if drawn. She is under heavy suspicion from Rosa and others, but her answers have been consistent with Liberal play (e.g., demanding transparency from Rosa).
3. Greta (P4) is Hitler. She voted Ja in Round 3 for Rosa, but her role is unknown to her. She has been pressing Rosa for answers, which is good cover.
4. The current government is Ines (P3) as President and Rosa (P2) as Chancellor. If this passes:
- Ines will draw 3 policies, discard 1, and pass 2 to Rosa.
- If Ines draws two Fascist policies, she will discard both (as committed).
- If Ines draws one Fascist and one Liberal, she will pass both to Rosa, who will then discard the Liberal and enact the Fascist policy.
- If Ines draws two Liberal policies, a Liberal policy will be enacted.
5. Rosa’s behavior is too suspicious to risk. If she gets the investigate power, she will likely target Greta (as she just claimed), which would reveal Greta as Fascist and blow her cover. This is dangerous for us.
6. Voting Nein on this government is the safest play. It avoids risking a Fascist policy enactment or exposing Greta. Rosa’s refusal to answer critical questions is sufficient justification for a Nein vote.
7. If this government fails, the election tracker advances to 2/3. The next President (P4, Greta) can then nominate a Chancellor, and we can work toward a Fascist win.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Refused to name discard. Silence = Fascist discard.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. Direct link to Fascist win.
- 19+ refusals to name R1 discard. Only caved under pressure to claim Liberal discard + investigate Greta.
- No justification for R3 Ja vote. Suspicious behavior = likely Fascist or covering for them.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Committed to discarding both if draws two Fascist. Under suspicion but answers consistent.
- Greta (P4): Ja R3 for Rosa. Pressing Rosa for answers (good cover).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R1 nomination + silence = Fascist discard.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Rosa’s refusal to answer = admission of guilt.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Justify R3 Ja vote *and* explain why trust me (P1) in R1 but not later.
- Vote Nein: Rosa’s behavior too risky. Avoid exposing Greta or enacting Fascist policy.
bid round 129s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Refused to name discard. Silence = Fascist discard.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. No justification.
- 19+ refusals to name R1 discard. Only caved under pressure (claimed Liberal + investigate Greta).
- No explanation for R3 Ja vote. Suspicious = likely Fascist or covering for them.
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Committed to discarding both if draws two Fascist. Answers consistent.
- Greta (P4): Ja R3 for Rosa. Pressing Rosa for answers (good cover).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R1 nomination + silence = Fascist discard.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Rosa’s refusal to answer = admission of guilt.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Justify R3 Ja vote *and* explain why trust me (P1) in R1 but not later.
- Rosa: Name exact card discarded in R1 (already claimed Liberal, but no proof).
- Strategy:
- Vote Nein: Rosa’s behavior too risky. Avoid exposing Greta or enacting Fascist policy.
- Push Rosa to justify R3 Ja vote—if she can’t, her guilt is confirmed.
bid round 126s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Refused to name discard until pressured (claimed Liberal + investigate Greta).
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. No justification given.
- 19+ refusals to name R1 discard = suspicious. Only caved under pressure.
- No explanation for R3 Ja vote. If innocent, why not justify?
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Consistent answers, discards both if draws two Fascist.
- Greta (P4): Pressing Rosa for answers (good cover).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R1 silence = Fascist discard.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Rosa’s refusal to answer = admission of guilt.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Justify R3 Ja vote *now*.
- Rosa: Why trust me (P1) in R1 but not later?
- Strategy:
- Vote Nein: Rosa’s behavior too risky. Avoid exposing Greta or enacting Fascist policy.
- Push Rosa to justify R3 Ja vote—if she can’t, her guilt is confirmed.
bid round 126s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Refused to name discard until pressured (claimed Liberal + investigate Greta).
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. No justification given.
- 19+ refusals to answer R1 discard = suspicious. Only answered under pressure.
- Now refusing to answer R2 discard question. Same pattern as R1.
- If innocent, why not justify R3 Ja vote? Why hide R2 discard?
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Consistent answers, discards both if draws two Fascist.
- Greta (P4): Pressing Rosa for answers (good cover).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R1 silence = Fascist discard.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Rosa’s refusal to answer = admission of guilt.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Justify R3 Ja vote *now*.
- Rosa: Why trust me (P1) in R1 but not later?
- Rosa: What was your R2 discard?
- Strategy:
- Push Rosa to justify R3 Ja vote and name R2 discard.
- If she refuses, her guilt is confirmed.
- Vote Nein: Rosa’s behavior too risky. Avoid exposing Greta or enacting Fascist policy.
bid round 128s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Claimed Liberal discard + investigate Greta under pressure.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. No justification given.
- Refuses to answer R1/R2 discards = suspicious. Pattern of silence until pressured.
- Now: No explanation for R3 Ja vote. Why trust me in R1 but not later?
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Consistent, discards both if draws two Fascist.
- Greta (P4): Pressing Rosa for answers (good cover).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R1 silence = Fascist discard.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Refusal to answer = admission of guilt.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Justify R3 Ja vote *now*.
- Rosa: Why trust me (P1) in R1 but not later?
- Rosa: What was your R2 discard?
- Strategy:
- Push Rosa to justify R3 Ja vote and name R2 discard.
- If she refuses, her guilt is confirmed.
- Vote Nein: Rosa’s behavior too risky. Avoid exposing Greta or enacting Fascist policy.
bid round 126s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Claimed Liberal discard + investigate Greta under pressure.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. No justification given.
- Refuses to answer R1/R2 discards = suspicious. Now dodging Greta’s question on R2 discard.
- R3 Ja vote: Why? If Liberal, must explain. If Fascist, why trust me in R1 but not later?
- Ines (P3): Fascist ally. Consistent, no red flags.
- Greta (P4): Pressing Rosa (good cover).
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Refusal to answer R1/R2 discards = admission of guilt.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Justify R3 Ja vote *now*.
- Rosa: What was your R2 discard?
- Rosa: Why trust me (P1) in R1 but not later?
- Strategy:
- Vote Nein: Rosa’s behavior too risky. Avoid exposing Greta or enacting Fascist policy.
- If Rosa answers R2 discard, reassess.
bid round 125s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Claimed Liberal discard + investigate Greta if given power.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. No explanation given.
- Now dodging Greta’s question on R2 discard. Refusal = admission.
- R3 Ja vote: If Liberal, must justify. If Fascist, why trust me (P1) in R1 but not later?
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Refusal to answer R1/R2 discards = suspicious.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was your R2 discard?
- Rosa: Why trust me (P1) in R1 but not later?
- Strategy:
- Vote Nein: Rosa’s behavior too risky. Avoid exposing Greta or enacting Fascist policy.
- If Rosa answers R2 discard, reassess.
bid round 127s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Claimed Liberal discard + investigate Greta if given power.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. No explanation given.
- Now dodging Greta’s R2 discard question. Refusal = admission.
- R3 Ja vote: If Liberal, must justify. If Fascist, why trust me (P1) in R1 but not later?
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Refusal to answer R1/R2 discards = suspicious.
- Open questions (unanswered):
- Rosa: What was your R2 discard? (Direct question, no answer yet.)
- Rosa: Why trust me (P1) in R1 but not later?
- Strategy:
- Vote Nein: Rosa’s behavior too risky. Avoid exposing Greta or enacting Fascist policy.
- If Rosa answers R2 discard, reassess.
- New point:
- Rosa’s silence on R2 discard = admission of guilt. If Liberal, she’d answer immediately.
bid round 126s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Claimed Liberal discard + investigate Greta if given power.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. No explanation given.
- R6: Silent on R2 discard. Greta’s direct question unanswered.
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (safe play, but inconsistent with R3).
- Evidence:
- R3 Ja vote: Only 2 Fascists (me + Ines). Rosa’s Ja enabled forced Fascist. If Liberal, must justify.
- R2 discard: Refusal to answer = admission. If Liberal, would answer immediately.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was your R2 discard? (Direct from Greta, still unanswered.)
- Rosa: Why trust me (P1) in R1 but not later?
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Refusal to answer R2 discard = suspicious.
- New point:
- Rosa’s R9 Ja vote (forced Liberal) inconsistent with R3. If Liberal, why enable Fascist then?
- Strategy:
- Vote Nein: Rosa’s behavior too risky. Avoid exposing Greta or enacting Fascist policy.
- If Rosa answers R2 discard, reassess.
bid round 126s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Claimed Liberal discard + investigate Greta if given power.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. No explanation.
- R6: Silent on R2 discard. Greta’s question unanswered.
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (safe play, but inconsistent with R3).
- Evidence:
- R3 Ja vote: Only 2 Fascists (me + Ines). Rosa’s Ja enabled forced Fascist. If Liberal, must justify.
- R2 discard: Still unanswered. If Liberal, would answer immediately.
- R9 Ja vote: Inconsistent with R3. Why enable Fascist then?
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was your R2 discard? (Direct from Greta, still unanswered.)
- Rosa: Why trust me (P1) in R1 but not later?
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Refusal to answer R2 discard = suspicious.
- R9 Ja vote inconsistent with R3.
- New point:
- Vote Nein: Rosa’s behavior too risky. Avoid exposing Greta or enacting policy now.
- Strategy:
- If Rosa answers R2 discard, reassess. If not, Nein.
bid round 126s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Claimed Liberal discard + investigate Greta if power.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No explanation. Only 2 Fascists (me + Ines).
- R6: Silent on R2 discard. Greta’s question unanswered.
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent with R3).
- Evidence:
- R3 Ja vote: If Liberal, must justify enabling Fascist.
- R2 discard: Still unanswered. If Liberal, would answer immediately.
- R9 Ja vote: Why enable Fascist then Liberal?
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was your R2 discard? (Greta’s question, still unanswered.)
- Rosa: Why trust me in R1 but not later?
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Refusal to answer R2 discard = suspicious.
- R9 Ja vote inconsistent with R3.
- New point:
- Vote Nein: Rosa’s behavior too risky. Avoid exposing Greta or enacting policy now.
- Strategy:
- If Rosa answers R2 discard, reassess. If not, Nein.
bid round 125s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Claimed Liberal discard + investigate Greta if power.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No justification.
- R6: Silent on R2 discard (Greta’s question unanswered).
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent with R3).
- Evidence:
- R3 Ja vote: If Liberal, must justify enabling Fascist.
- R2 discard: Still unanswered. If Liberal, would answer immediately.
- R9 Ja vote: Why enable Fascist then Liberal?
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was your R2 discard? (Greta’s question, still unanswered.)
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- Refusal to answer R2 discard = suspicious.
- R9 Ja vote inconsistent with R3.
- New point:
- Demand R2 discard answer. If none, Nein vote to avoid risk.
- Strategy:
- If Rosa answers, reassess. If not, Nein to protect Greta and avoid policy.
bid round 125s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me (P1). Claimed Liberal discard + investigate Greta if power.
- R2: President. Discard unanswered (Boris/Greta demanding answer).
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No justification.
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent with R3).
- Evidence:
- R2 discard: Still unanswered. If Liberal, would answer immediately.
- R3 Ja vote: Enabled Fascist. If Liberal, must justify.
- R9 Ja vote: Why enable Fascist then Liberal?
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was your R2 discard? (Direct question from Boris/Greta, still unanswered.)
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (said earlier).
- Refusal to answer R2 discard = suspicious (said earlier).
- New point:
- Directly demand R2 discard answer. If none, Nein vote to avoid risk.
- Strategy:
- If Rosa answers, reassess. If not, Nein to protect Greta and avoid policy.
vote round 1213s
1. Current government: President Greta (P4, Hitler) nominates Chancellor Boris (P0).
2. Fascist goal: Enact Fascist policies. Only 1 enacted so far, need 2 more before Hitler can be elected Chancellor for instant win.
3. Rosa (P2) is the biggest threat:
- Refuses to answer R2 discard (President). If Liberal, would answer immediately.
- Voted Ja in R3 (enabled forced Fascist policy) and R9 (enabled forced Liberal policy). Inconsistent behavior.
- Claims R1 discard was Liberal and would investigate Greta if given power, but refuses to confirm now.
4. Boris (P0) as Chancellor:
- Claims in R6 he drew 2 Liberal + 1 Fascist, discarded Fascist. No reason to doubt yet, but he’s untested.
- Refuses to commit to discarding Fascist if drawn now, but Greta is pressuring him.
5. Greta (P4) as President:
- Fascist win condition: If this government passes and draws 2 Fascist policies, she can force Boris to enact one (since only 1 Fascist policy enacted so far).
- If Boris is Liberal, he might discard Fascist, but risk is low given only 1 Fascist policy enacted.
6. Rosa’s silence on R2 discard is damning. If she doesn’t answer now, voting Nein is the safe play to avoid:
- Risk of Boris enacting Fascist (if he’s Fascist or weak Liberal).
- Risk of Rosa’s inconsistency being a Fascist cover-up.
7. If Rosa answers R2 discard as Liberal, reassess. If not, Nein to protect Greta and avoid policy risk.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me. Claimed Liberal discard + investigate Greta.
- R2: President. Discard unanswered (Boris/Greta demanding).
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No justification.
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent).
- Boris (P0):
- R6: Chancellor. Claimed drew 2L+1F, discarded F. Unverified.
- Now: Refuses to commit to discarding Fascist if drawn.
- Greta (P4):
- R2: Not President (Rosa was).
- R5: President. Discard unanswered (Rosa demanding).
- Evidence:
- Rosa’s R2 discard: Still unanswered. If Liberal, would answer.
- R3 Ja vote: Enabled Fascist. If Liberal, must justify.
- R9 Ja vote: Inconsistent with R3.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was your R2 discard? (Direct from Boris/Greta, still unanswered.)
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (said earlier).
- Refusal to answer R2 discard = suspicious (said earlier).
- New point:
- Demand R2 discard answer now. If none, Nein to avoid risk.
bid round 1211s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me. Claimed Liberal discard + investigate Greta.
- R2: President. Discard unanswered despite repeated demands (Boris/Greta).
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. No justification.
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent with R3).
- Boris (P0):
- R6: Chancellor. Claimed drew 2L+1F, discarded F. Unverified.
- Now: Refuses to commit to discarding Fascist if drawn.
- Greta (P4):
- R2: Not President (Rosa was).
- R5: President. Discard unanswered (Rosa demanding).
- Evidence:
- Rosa’s R2 discard: Still unanswered. If Liberal, would answer.
- R3 Ja vote: Enabled Fascist. If Liberal, must justify.
- R9 Ja vote: Inconsistent with R3.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What was your R2 discard? (Direct from Boris/Greta, still unanswered.)
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (said earlier).
- Refusal to answer R2 discard = suspicious (said earlier).
- New point:
- Demand R2 discard answer *now*. If none, Nein to avoid risk.
- Tie R2 discard to current nomination: Silence = admission of Fascist discard.
speak round 1214s
The forced Fascist policy just enacted brings the count to 2/6, meaning the next Fascist policy (3/6) will unlock my win condition if elected Chancellor. My immediate goal is to nominate a Chancellor I can trust to enact a Fascist policy when the time comes, but for now, I must maintain my Liberal facade.
Rosa (p2) is still evading the question about her Round 1 discard, which is damning. She falsely accused me of discarding Fascist in Round 2, but I wasn’t even in government then. Boris (p0) committed to enacting a Liberal policy if he drew one Liberal and one Fascist, but he’s gone silent since the vote failed. Ines (p3) remains a strong suspect due to her silence on the investigate target and nominating me in Round 3 when the forced Fascist policy was enacted.
My remark should pressure Boris to reaffirm his commitment to enacting Liberal policies, as his silence post-vote is suspicious. I’ll also subtly remind everyone that Rosa’s evasion is proof of her guilt, without repeating myself verbatim.
- Suspects:
- Rosa (p2): R1 Chancellor, discard Fascist (enabled R3 forced policy). 20+ evasions on R1 discard. False accusation re: Greta’s R2 discard (Greta not in gov).
- Ines (p3): Nominated Greta R3 (forced Fascist). Silence on investigate target. Suspect Fascist/Hitler.
- Boris (p0): R6 Chancellor (Liberal). Evading reaffirmation of enact Liberal if draw 1L/1F (committed pre-vote, silent post-vote).
- Open Qs:
- Boris: Will you enact Liberal if draw 1L/1F? (Asked 4x, no post-vote answer.)
- Rosa: Admit R1 discard = Fascist? (Still unanswered.)
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence = Fascist discard (t=34, t=66, t=315).
- Greta not in gov R2 (no discard, Rosa’s accusation false).
- Boris’s evasion exposed (t=114, t=118, t=122).
- Action:
- Vote Ja (my own government next round).
- If Boris enacts Fascist, brand him Fascist immediately.
- If Liberal enacted, pressure Rosa to admit R1 discard = Fascist.
- Execute Ines next Fascist power (if alive).
bid round 126s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me. Claimed Liberal discard + investigate Greta.
- R2: President. Discard unanswered. Boris/Greta demands still unmet.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No justification.
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent).
- Boris (P0):
- R6: Chancellor. Claimed 2L+1F, discarded F. Unverified.
- Now: Refuses to commit to discarding F if drawn.
- Greta (P4):
- R5: President. Discard unanswered.
- Evidence:
- Rosa’s R2 discard: Still unanswered. If Liberal, would answer.
- R3 Ja vote: Enabled Fascist. If Liberal, must justify.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered (earlier).
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (earlier).
- New point:
- Rosa’s R2 discard + R3 Ja vote = pattern. Silence = admission of Fascist discard.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Answer R2 discard (Liberal or Fascist).
- Boris: Commit to discarding F if drawn (yes or no).
bid round 126s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me. Claimed Liberal discard + investigate Greta.
- R2: President. Discard unanswered. Now accused of Fascist discard.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No justification. Silence = admission.
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent).
- Boris (P0):
- R6: Chancellor. Claimed 2L+1F, discarded F. Unverified.
- Now: Refuses to commit to discarding F if drawn.
- Greta (P4):
- R2/R5: President. Discards unanswered. Now President again.
- Evidence:
- Rosa’s R2 discard: Still unanswered. If Liberal, would answer.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote: Enabled forced Fascist. If Liberal, must justify.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered (earlier).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (earlier).
- New point:
- Rosa’s pattern: R2 silence + R3 Ja = Fascist discard. Demand answer.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: Answer R2 discard (Liberal or Fascist).
- Boris: Commit to discarding F if drawn (yes or no).
bid round 126s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me. Claimed Liberal discard + investigate Greta.
- R2: President. Discard unanswered. Accused of Fascist discard.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No justification. Silence = admission.
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent).
- Boris (P0):
- R6: Chancellor. Claimed 2L+1F, discarded F. Unverified.
- Points made:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered (earlier).
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (earlier).
- New point:
- Rosa’s pattern: R2 silence + R3 Ja = Fascist discard. Demand R2 discard answer now.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What did you discard in R2? (Liberal or Fascist).
- Boris: Will you discard Fascist if drawn? (yes or no).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R2 discard. Silence = Fascist discard confirmation.
- Avoid defending Ines directly; let Rosa’s inconsistency speak for itself.
bid round 1311s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me. Claimed Liberal discard + investigate Greta if given power.
- R2: President. Discard unanswered. Accused of Fascist discard by others.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. No justification. Silence = admission.
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent).
- Boris (P0):
- R6: Chancellor. Claimed 2L+1F, discarded F. Unverified.
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- New point:
- Rosa’s pattern: R2 silence + R3 Ja = Fascist discard. Demand R2 discard answer now.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What did you discard in R2? (Liberal or Fascist).
- Boris: Will you discard Fascist if drawn? (yes or no).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R2 discard. Silence = Fascist discard confirmation.
- Avoid defending Ines directly; let Rosa’s inconsistency speak for itself.
- Do not repeat past points unless Rosa evades again.
bid round 135s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R1: Nominated me. Claimed Liberal discard + investigate Greta if given power.
- R2: President. Discard unanswered. Accused of Fascist discard by others.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. No justification. Silence = admission.
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent).
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- New point:
- Rosa’s pattern: R2 silence + R3 Ja = Fascist discard. Demand R2 discard answer now.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What did you discard in R2? (Liberal or Fascist).
- Boris: Will you discard Fascist if drawn? (yes or no).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R2 discard. Silence = Fascist discard confirmation.
- Avoid defending Ines directly; let Rosa’s inconsistency speak for itself.
- Do not repeat past points unless Rosa evades again.
bid round 135s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R2: President. Discard unanswered. Accused of Fascist discard by others.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. No justification.
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent).
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- New point:
- Rosa’s R2 silence + R3 Ja = Fascist discard. Demand R2 discard answer now.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What did you discard in R2? (Liberal or Fascist).
- Boris: Will you discard Fascist if drawn? (yes or no).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R2 discard. Silence = Fascist discard confirmation.
- Avoid defending Ines directly; let Rosa’s inconsistency speak for itself.
- Do not repeat past points unless Rosa evades again.
bid round 138s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R2: President. Discard unanswered. Accused of Fascist discard.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. No justification.
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent).
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- New point:
- Rosa’s R2 silence + R3 Ja = Fascist discard. Demand R2 discard answer now.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What did you discard in R2? (Liberal or Fascist).
- Boris: Will you discard Fascist if drawn? (yes or no).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R2 discard. Silence = Fascist discard confirmation.
- Avoid defending Ines directly; let Rosa’s inconsistency speak for itself.
- Do not repeat past points unless Rosa evades again.
bid round 136s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R2: President. Discard unanswered. Accused of Fascist discard.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. No justification.
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent).
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist.
- New point:
- Rosa’s R2 silence + R3 Ja = Fascist discard. Demand answer now.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What did you discard in R2? (Liberal or Fascist).
- Boris: Will you discard Fascist if drawn? (yes/no).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R2 discard. Silence = Fascist discard.
- Avoid defending Ines/Greta directly.
- Do not repeat past points unless Rosa evades again.
bid round 134s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R2: President. Discarded one policy. Never answered what it was.
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist policy. No justification.
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent).
- Points already made by me:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- New point:
- Rosa’s R2 silence + R3 Ja = Fascist discard. Demand answer now.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: What did you discard in R2? (Liberal or Fascist).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R2 discard. Silence = admission of Fascist discard.
- Do not defend Ines/Greta directly.
- Do not repeat past points unless Rosa evades again.
bid round 134s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R2 President. Discarded one policy. Silence on what it was.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No justification.
- R9 Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent).
- Points already made by me:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- New point:
- Rosa’s R2 silence + R3 Ja = Fascist discard. Demand answer now.
- Open question:
- Rosa: What did you discard in R2? (Liberal or Fascist).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R2 discard. Silence = admission of Fascist discard.
- Do not defend Ines/Greta directly.
- Escalate urgency if Rosa evades again.
bid round 134s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R2 President. Discarded one policy. Never answered what it was.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No justification.
- R9 Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent).
- Points already made by me:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- New point:
- Rosa’s silence on R2 discard = admission of Fascist discard. Demand answer now.
- Open question:
- Rosa: What did you discard in R2? (Liberal or Fascist).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R2 discard. Silence = admission.
- Do not defend Ines/Greta directly.
- Escalate urgency if Rosa evades again.
bid round 135s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R2 President. Discarded one policy. Still unanswered.
- R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. No justification.
- R9 Ja enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent).
- Points already made by me:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- New point:
- Rosa’s silence = admission of Fascist discard. Demand answer NOW.
- Open question:
- Rosa: What did you discard in R2? (Liberal or Fascist).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R2 discard. Silence = guilt.
- Do not defend Ines/Greta.
- Escalate urgency if Rosa evades.
speak round 1310s
Rosa (P2) is under heavy scrutiny for her silence about her Round 2 discard and her Ja vote in Round 3 enabling the forced Fascist policy. She has repeatedly evaded answering about her Round 2 discard, which is a major red flag. My goal is to pressure her into answering or force her to admit guilt by staying silent. I’ve already pointed out her silence and the enabling vote, so I need to escalate the demand for her to answer about the Round 2 discard directly. This keeps the heat on her and avoids defending Ines or Greta, who are also under suspicion but are my allies. Otto (P6) is the Chancellor nominee, and he’s demanding answers from Greta (P4), which is fine, but Rosa is the weakest link here. I’ll demand she answer about her Round 2 discard now, as her silence is an admission of guilt.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R2 President. Discard unanswered. Silence = guilt.
- R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. No justification.
- R9 Ja enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent).
- Points already made by me:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- New point:
- Direct demand: Rosa, R2 discard? (Liberal/Fascist).
- Open question:
- Rosa: R2 discard? (Answer now or admit guilt).
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R2 discard. Silence = admission of Fascist discard.
- Do not defend Ines/Greta.
- Escalate if Rosa evades.
speak round 138s
Rosa (p2) is the most pressing target. She has avoided answering about her Round 1 discard (Fascist, enabled Round 3 forced policy) for 18+ rounds, voted Ja in Round 3 (enabling the forced Fascist policy), and is now deflecting by demanding my Round 2 discard (which doesn’t exist—I wasn’t in government then).
Otto (p6) is making baseless demands about my Round 2 discard, which is irrelevant since I wasn’t Chancellor. His pre-draw veto threat is empty unless he explains why he’s targeting me for something I didn’t do.
Boris (p0) made a public commitment to enact a Liberal policy if he drew one Liberal and one Fascist but has gone silent. If this government passes and he enacts a Fascist policy, it’s proof he’s lying.
Ines (p3) is likely Hitler. She nominated me in Round 3 (forced Fascist policy), and Rosa’s accusation about my Round 2 discard is false, so Rosa’s focus on me is either misdirection or collusion with Ines.
My move: Force Rosa to answer about her Round 1 discard *now*. If she refuses again, it’s a confession. Otto’s demand about my Round 2 discard is a red herring—I’ll call it out if he keeps pushing, but Rosa’s silence is the bigger liability.
- Suspects:
- Rosa (p2): R1 Chancellor, discarded Fascist (enabled R3 forced Fascist). Q: "Admit R1 discard = Fascist?" (Unanswered 19x). Voted Ja R3 (forced Fascist).
- Ines (p3): Nominated Greta R3 (forced Fascist). Silence on F2 investigate target. Likely Hitler.
- Boris (p0): R6 Chancellor (Liberal). Pre-vote: "enact Liberal if 1L/1F". Post-vote: silence. Admission if enacts Fascist.
- Open Qs:
- Rosa: Admit R1 discard = Fascist? (Unanswered 19x.)
- Otto: Why demand my R2 discard when I wasn’t Chancellor? (Unanswered.)
- Boris: Reaffirm commitment to enact Liberal if 1L/1F?
- Points made:
- Rosa’s silence = Fascist discard (t=34, t=66, t=315, t=380, t=443).
- Greta not in gov R2 (no discard, Rosa’s accusation false).
- Boris’s pre-vote commitment exposed (t=114, t=118, t=122).
- Otto’s demand for R2 discard is baseless (t=393).
- Action:
- **Press Rosa to admit R1 discard = Fascist (public, now).**
- If President, nominate Boris as Chancellor (test loyalty).
- Execute Ines next Fascist power (if alive).
bid round 134s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R2 President. Discard unanswered. Silence = guilt.
- R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. No justification.
- R9 Ja enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent).
- Points already made by me:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- New point:
- Rosa’s R2 discard: Liberal or Fascist? Answer now or admit guilt.
- Strategy:
- Force Rosa to answer R2 discard. Silence = admission of Fascist discard.
- Do not defend Ines/Greta.
- Escalate if Rosa evades.
- Open question:
- Rosa: R2 discard? (Answer now or confess).
vote round 1317s
1. **Current Board State**: Fascist policies enacted: 2/6. Liberal policies: 2/5. We need 4 more Fascist policies to unlock Hitler's election as Chancellor (win condition).
2. **Key Observations**:
- Rosa (P2) has been relentlessly accusing Greta (Hitler) and demanding answers about discards, particularly Greta's Round 2 discard. However, Rosa herself was President in Round 2 and has refused to answer what she discarded. This is highly suspicious.
- Rosa voted Ja in Round 3, enabling the forced Fascist policy. She has never justified this vote.
- Rosa also voted Ja in Round 9, enabling a forced Liberal policy, which is inconsistent if she is truly Liberal.
- Otto (P6), the current Chancellor nominee, has demanded Greta answer about her Round 2 discard and Ja vote in Round 3. This aligns with our goals if it pressures Greta to reveal nothing (since she wasn’t President in Round 2).
- Ines (P3, fellow Fascist) has called out Rosa’s hypocrisy, which is helpful.
3. **Rosa’s Behavior**:
- Rosa’s refusal to answer about her Round 2 discard is damning. If she discarded Fascist, she enabled the forced Fascist policy in Round 3. If she discarded Liberal, her silence is inexplicable for a Liberal.
- Her Ja vote in Round 3 (enabling a forced Fascist policy) and her refusal to justify it further implicates her as a Fascist or Hitler.
- Her inconsistency (Ja in Round 9 enabling a forced Liberal policy) suggests she is not a principled Liberal.
4. **Strategic Goals**:
- **Do not defend Ines or Greta**: Let them fend for themselves to avoid suspicion.
- **Pressure Rosa**: Force her to answer about her Round 2 discard. Her silence or evasion is an admission of guilt.
- **Support Otto’s demands**: If Otto pressures Greta to answer about Round 2, it deflects suspicion from us and keeps the focus on Rosa’s hypocrisy.
- **Vote Ja**: The government of Nadia (P5) and Otto (P6) is acceptable. Otto’s demands for transparency align with our interests, as Greta can’t answer about Round 2 (she wasn’t President then). This government is likely to pass a Fascist policy or at least not harm our position.
5. **Risks**:
- If Rosa answers that her Round 2 discard was Liberal, it weakens her credibility but doesn’t prove she’s Fascist. However, her Ja vote in Round 3 is still unexplained.
- If the government passes and enacts a Liberal policy, we’re still in a strong position (only 2 Liberal policies enacted, 2 Fascist).
6. **Vote Decision**: Vote **Ja**. The government is favorable, and Otto’s demands for transparency will keep the pressure on Rosa and Greta, not us.
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R2 President. Discard unanswered. Silence = guilt.
- R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. No justification.
- R9 Ja enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent).
- Hypocrisy: Demands Greta’s R2 discard (Greta wasn’t President) but won’t answer her own.
- Points already made by me:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- New points:
- Rosa’s R2 discard: Answer now or admit guilt.
- Rosa’s R9 Ja (Liberal) contradicts R3 Ja (Fascist).
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R2 discard? (Answer now or confess Fascist discard).
- Rosa: Why Ja in R3 and R9? (Inconsistent).
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Nadia/Otto. Otto’s demands align with our goals (pressure Greta/Rosa).
- Do not defend Ines/Greta. Let them deflect suspicion.
- Escalate if Rosa evades R2 discard question.
bid round 147s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R2 President. Discard unanswered. Silence = guilt (Fascist discard).
- R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist policy. No justification.
- R9 Ja enabled forced Liberal (inconsistent).
- Hypocrisy: Demands others’ discards but won’t answer her own.
- Points already made by me:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- New points:
- Rosa’s R2 discard: Answer *now* or admit Fascist discard.
- Rosa’s R3 vs R9 Ja votes: Why Ja for Fascist (R3) and Liberal (R9)? Inconsistent.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R2 discard? (Liberal/Fascist).
- Rosa: Why Ja in R3 and R9? (Contradiction).
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Nadia/Otto. Otto’s demands (pressure Greta/Rosa) align with our goals.
- Do not defend Ines/Greta. Let them deflect suspicion.
- Escalate if Rosa evades R2 discard question.
bid round 145s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R2 President. Discard unanswered. Silence = Fascist discard (likely).
- R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. No justification.
- R9 Ja enabled forced Liberal. Contradiction.
- Hypocrisy: Demands others’ discards but evades her own.
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- New points:
- Rosa’s R2 discard: Answer *now* (Liberal/Fascist) or admit Fascist discard.
- Rosa’s R3 vs R9 Ja votes: Why Ja for Fascist (R3) and Liberal (R9)? Inconsistent.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Otto’s government (pressure Greta/Rosa aligns with us).
- Do not defend Ines/Greta. Let them deflect.
- Escalate if Rosa evades R2 discard.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R2 discard? (Liberal/Fascist).
- Rosa: Why Ja in R3 and R9? (Contradiction).
bid round 144s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R2 President, discard unanswered. Silence = Fascist discard (likely).
- R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. No justification.
- R9 Ja enabled forced Liberal. Contradiction.
- Hypocrisy: Demands others’ discards but evades her own.
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- New points:
- Rosa: R2 discard? (Liberal/Fascist) *must* answer now.
- Rosa: Why Ja for Fascist (R3) and Liberal (R9)? Direct contradiction.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Otto’s government (pressure on Greta/Rosa aligns with us).
- Do not defend Ines/Greta. Let them deflect.
- Escalate if Rosa evades R2 discard again.
bid round 1410s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R2 President, discard unanswered. Silence = Fascist discard (likely).
- R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. No justification.
- R9 Ja enabled forced Liberal. Contradiction.
- Hypocrisy: Demands others’ discards but evades her own.
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- Rosa’s R9 Ja enabled forced Liberal (contradiction).
- New points:
- Rosa: R2 discard? Liberal/Fascist *now*.
- Rosa: Why Ja for Fascist (R3) and Liberal (R9)? Direct contradiction.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Otto’s government (pressure on Greta/Rosa aligns with us).
- Do not defend Ines/Greta. Let them deflect.
- Escalate if Rosa evades R2 discard again.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist)?
- Rosa: Why Ja for R3 (Fascist) and R9 (Liberal)?
bid round 145s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R2 President, discard unanswered. Silence = Fascist discard (likely).
- R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. No justification.
- R9 Ja enabled forced Liberal. Contradiction.
- Hypocrisy: Demands others’ discards but evades her own.
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- Rosa’s R9 Ja enabled forced Liberal (contradiction).
- New point:
- Rosa: R2 discard? Liberal/Fascist *now*.
- If evades again, vote Nein to expose hypocrisy.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Otto’s government (pressure on Greta/Rosa aligns with us).
- Do not defend Ines/Greta. Let Rosa’s evasion speak for itself.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R2 discard (Liberal/Fascist)? Answer *this turn*.
bid round 145s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R2 President: discarded policy unanswered. Silence = likely Fascist discard.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No justification.
- R9 Ja vote enabled forced Liberal. Contradiction.
- R12 investigate target: evading for 13 rounds.
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- Rosa’s R9 Ja enabled forced Liberal (contradiction).
- New point:
- Rosa: R2 discard? Liberal or Fascist? Answer *this turn* or vote Nein to expose hypocrisy.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Otto (P6) -> Nadia (P5) government.
- Do not defend Ines/Greta. Let Rosa’s evasion speak for itself.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R2 discard? (Liberal/Fascist)?
bid round 144s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2):
- R2 President: discarded policy unanswered. Silence = likely Fascist discard.
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist. No justification.
- R9 Ja vote enabled forced Liberal. Contradiction.
- R12 investigate target: evaded for 13 rounds.
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- Rosa’s R9 Ja enabled forced Liberal (contradiction).
- New point:
- Rosa: R2 discard? Liberal or Fascist? Answer *this turn* or vote Nein to expose hypocrisy.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Otto (P6) -> Nadia (P5) government.
- Do not defend Ines/Greta. Let Rosa’s evasion speak for itself.
- Open questions:
- Rosa: R2 discard? (Liberal/Fascist) — unanswered.
bid round 145s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) evasion:
- R2 President: discarded policy unanswered (this turn).
- R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist (no justification).
- R9 Ja enabled forced Liberal (contradiction).
- R12 investigate target: 13 rounds evading.
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- Rosa’s R9 Ja contradiction.
- New point:
- Rosa: R2 discard? Liberal or Fascist? Answer *this turn* or vote Nein.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Otto (P6) -> Nadia (P5).
- Do not defend Ines/Greta. Let Rosa’s silence condemn her.
bid round 144s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) evasion:
- R2 President: discarded policy unanswered (this turn).
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (no justification).
- R9 Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (contradicts R3).
- R12 investigate target: 13 rounds evading.
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s R2 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- Rosa’s R9 Ja contradiction.
- New point:
- Rosa: R2 discard? Liberal or Fascist? Answer *now* or vote Nein.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Otto (P6) -> Nadia (P5).
- Do not defend Ines/Greta. Let Rosa’s silence condemn her.
speak round 1411s
Otto has been nominated as President with me as Chancellor. The room is still focused on Greta's silence about her Round 2 discard and Rosa's evasions. Otto has repeatedly threatened to demand Greta's answer before touching policies, but he hasn't explicitly committed to vetoing pre-draw if she refuses. My scratchpad notes that Otto's R3 Ja vote directly enabled the forced Fascist policy, and his silence now would be complicity. I need to press Otto to commit to a veto pre-draw if Greta refuses to disclose her Round 2 discard, as this is the only way to ensure accountability and prevent further Fascist enablement. This is a new, direct question that hasn't been answered yet, and it's critical given the stakes.
- Suspects:
* Greta (P4): R2 Pres (silent on discard), R3 Ja (enabled forced Fascist), R12 Pres (forced Fascist). BLACKLISTED until disclosure.
* Rosa (P2): R1 Chan (claims Liberal discard—no confirmation), R3 Ja (enabled forced Fascist). Dodged investigate target.
* Boris (P0): R6 Chan (Liberal enacted). Refuses commit to discard 2F if drawn.
* Ines (P3): R3 Pres (forced Fascist). Refused name investigate target.
- Otto (P6): R3 Ja (enabled forced Fascist). Must commit to veto pre-draw if Greta silent. DIRECTLY ASKED: Will you veto pre-draw if Greta refuses to disclose R2 discard? (UNANSWERED)
- Open Qs:
* Otto: Veto pre-draw if Greta silent? (NEW, UNANSWERED)
* Rosa: R1 discard—no evasion.
* Greta: R2 discard Liberal or Fascist?
- Points made:
* Greta’s silence = veto + blacklist.
* Otto’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence now = complicity.
bid round 145s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) evasion:
- R1: President, discard unanswered (15+ demands).
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (no justification).
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (direct contradiction).
- R12: investigate target, 13+ rounds evading.
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s R1 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- New point:
- Rosa’s R3 vs R9 Ja votes: contradiction. Demand *immediate* explanation.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Otto (P6) -> Nadia (P5).
- Let Rosa’s silence/contradictions condemn her; do not defend Ines/Greta.
- Urgency: Rosa’s evasion is actively blocking progress. Must force answer now.
bid round 145s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa (P2) evasion:
- R1: President, discard unanswered (15+ demands).
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (no justification).
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (direct contradiction).
- R12: investigate target, 13+ rounds evading.
- Points already made:
- Rosa’s R1 discard unanswered.
- Rosa’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- New point:
- Rosa’s R3 vs R9 Ja votes: contradiction. Demand *immediate* explanation for flip.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Otto (P6) -> Nadia (P5).
- Let Rosa’s silence/contradictions condemn her; do not defend Ines/Greta.
- Urgency: Rosa’s evasion is blocking progress. Must force answer now.
speak round 1412s
Otto has nominated me for Chancellor, and the room is still fixated on Greta's and Rosa's past discards. My previous demand for Otto to commit to a veto if Greta remains silent was not answered. Since I am the Chancellor nominee, I need to ensure Otto is not enabling fascism by allowing Greta's silence to persist. I should directly ask Otto to commit to a veto pre-draw if Greta refuses to disclose her Round 2 discard, as this is the most urgent unanswered question. This also puts pressure on Otto to either act or reveal his own complicity.
- Suspects:
* Greta (P4): R2 Pres (silent on discard), R3 Ja (enabled forced Fascist), R12 Pres (forced Fascist). BLACKLISTED. Refuses to disclose R2 discard.
* Rosa (P2): R1 Chan (Liberal discard claim—no proof), R3 Ja (enabled forced Fascist). Dodged investigate target (R12).
* Boris (P0): R6 Chan (Liberal enacted). Refuses to commit to discard 2F if drawn.
* Ines (P3): R3 Pres (forced Fascist). Refused to name investigate target.
* Otto (P6): R3 Ja (enabled forced Fascist). Now nominates me. Q: Veto pre-draw if Greta silent? (UNANSWERED)
- Open Qs:
* Otto: Veto pre-draw if Greta silent? (UNANSWERED)
* Rosa: R1 discard—no evasion.
* Greta: R2 discard—Liberal or Fascist?
- Points made:
* Greta’s silence = veto + blacklist.
* Otto’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence now = complicity.
* Otto must answer veto question or step down as Pres nominee.
bid round 144s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s evasion/contradictions:
- R1: President, discard unanswered (15+ demands).
- R3: Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (no justification).
- R9: Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (direct contradiction).
- Points already made:
- R1 discard unanswered.
- R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- New point:
- R3 vs R9 Ja votes: Rosa must explain *immediately* why she enabled a forced Fascist then a forced Liberal.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Otto (P6) -> Nadia (P5).
- Let Rosa’s silence condemn her; do not defend Ines/Greta.
- Urgency: Rosa’s contradiction is blocking progress. Must force answer now.
speak round 149s
The current government is Otto (President) nominating me (Nadia) as Chancellor. The room is still fixated on Greta's silence about her Round 2 discard and Rosa's refusal to name her investigate target. However, Otto has been asked repeatedly about whether he will veto pre-draw if Greta refuses to disclose her Round 2 discard, and he has not answered directly. This is a critical question because it tests Otto's commitment to transparency and whether he is enabling fascist behavior by allowing Greta's silence to continue.
I have already made it clear that Greta is blacklisted and that Otto's silence on the veto question is complicity. The key now is to force Otto to answer the veto question *this turn* before the vote. If he refuses, it will be damning evidence that he is not trustworthy as President, regardless of whether the government passes.
My remark should be short, direct, and force Otto to answer the veto question before the vote. I should not repeat Greta's silence or Rosa's evasion, as those points have been made exhaustively.
- Suspects:
* Greta (P4): R2 Pres (silent on discard), R3 Ja (enabled forced Fascist), R12 Pres (forced Fascist). BLACKLISTED. Refuses to disclose R2 discard.
* Rosa (P2): R1 Chan (Liberal discard claim—no proof), R3 Ja (enabled forced Fascist). Dodged investigate target (R12).
* Boris (P0): R6 Chan (Liberal enacted). Refuses to commit to discard 2F if drawn.
* Ines (P3): R3 Pres (forced Fascist). Refused to name investigate target.
* Otto (P6): R3 Ja (enabled forced Fascist). Now Pres. Q: Veto pre-draw if Greta silent? (UNANSWERED).
- Open Qs:
* Otto: Veto pre-draw if Greta silent? (UNANSWERED—asked again this turn).
* Rosa: R1 discard—no evasion.
* Greta: R2 discard—Liberal or Fascist?
- Points made:
* Greta’s silence = veto + blacklist.
* Otto’s R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist. Silence now = complicity.
* Otto must answer veto question or step down as Pres nominee.
bid round 145s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s contradictions:
- R3: Ja enabled forced Fascist (no explanation).
- R9: Ja enabled forced Liberal (direct contradiction).
- Points already made:
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (said at t=2).
- R1 discard demands ignored (15+ times, not my job to repeat).
- New point:
- Rosa must explain *this turn* why she enabled opposing forced policies. Silence = guilt.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for P6 (Otto) -> P5 (Nadia).
- Let Rosa’s silence condemn her; do not defend Ines/Greta.
- Urgency: 2 (Rosa’s contradiction is blocking progress; force answer now).
- Avoid repeating R1 discard demands—Nadia/Otto own that fight.
bid round 144s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s contradictions:
- R3: Ja enabled forced Fascist (no explanation).
- R9: Ja enabled forced Liberal (direct contradiction).
- Points already made:
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (t=2).
- R9 Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (t=2).
- New point:
- Rosa must explain *this turn* why she enabled opposing forced policies. Silence = guilt.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for P6 (Otto) -> P5 (Nadia).
- Let Rosa’s silence condemn her; do not defend Ines/Greta.
- Urgency: 2 (force Rosa’s answer now).
- Avoid repeating R1 discard demands—Nadia/Otto’s fight.
bid round 144s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s contradictions:
- R3: Ja enabled forced Fascist (no explanation).
- R9: Ja enabled forced Liberal (direct contradiction).
- Points already made:
- R3 Ja vote enabled forced Fascist (t=2).
- R9 Ja vote enabled forced Liberal (t=2).
- New point:
- Rosa must explain *this turn* why she enabled opposing forced policies. Silence = guilt.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for P6 (Otto) -> P5 (Nadia).
- Let Rosa’s silence condemn her; do not defend Ines/Greta.
- Urgency: 2 (force Rosa’s answer now).
- Avoid repeating R1 discard demands—focus on forced policy votes.
bid round 144s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s forced-policy votes:
- R3: Ja -> forced Fascist (no explanation).
- R9: Ja -> forced Liberal (direct contradiction).
- Points already made:
- R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist (t=2).
- R9 Ja enabled forced Liberal (t=2).
- New demand:
- Rosa must explain *this turn* why she enabled opposing forced policies. Silence = guilt.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for P6 (Otto) -> P5 (Nadia).
- Let Rosa’s silence condemn her; do not defend Ines/Greta.
- Urgency: 2 (force Rosa’s answer now).
- Avoid repeating R1 discard—focus on forced votes.
bid round 144s
- Role: Fascist. Ally: Ines (P3). Hitler: Greta (P4) (unknowing).
- Rosa’s forced-policy votes:
- R3: Ja -> forced Fascist (no explanation).
- R9: Ja -> forced Liberal (direct contradiction).
- Points already made:
- R3 Ja enabled forced Fascist.
- R9 Ja enabled forced Liberal.
- New demand:
- Rosa must explain *this turn* why she enabled opposing forced policies. Silence = guilt.
- Strategy:
- Vote Ja for Otto -> Nadia.
- Let Rosa’s silence condemn her; do not defend Ines/Greta.
- Urgency: 2 (force Rosa’s answer now).
- Open question: Why did Rosa vote Ja for opposing forced policies (R3 vs R9)?
- Avoid repeating R1 discard—focus on forced votes.